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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a father of three, three beautiful little boys, loving husband Drum's dead found in his own bed in his own home. When his wife comes back into the room, he's cold to the touch. What happened? I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at Foxination and series XEM one eleven. First of all, take a listen to our friends at ku TV.

This is the home where police found Eric Richards dead on his bedroom floor in March. Richins and his wife, Corey were celebrating a business accomplishment.

This is the home where police found Eric Richards dead on his bedroom floor in March. Richins and his wife, Corey were celebrating a business accomplishment.

The night he died.

The night he died.

Corey made Eric a moscow mule, which he drank in the bedroom.

Corey made Eric a moscow mule, which he drank in the bedroom.

They say. Corey told authorities that she.

They say. Corey told authorities that she.

Left to help one of their children, and rich into the bed several hours later. It was then, they say, she noticed Eric was cool to the touch and called.

Left to help one of their children, and rich into the bed several hours later. It was then, they say, she noticed Eric was cool to the touch and called.

Nine one one. What a horrible event to leave your husband go fall asleep in the bedroom with one of your sons. She wanders back in there to sleep in their bed around three am and her husband is cold to the touch. With me in all star panel to make sense of what we know right now. But first I want to go to Chief medical examiner out of Terran County. That's Fort Worth Lecturer, University of Texas, Austin and Texas Christian University Medical School, Doctor Kendall Crowns, Doctor Crowns, it's such an honor to have you and doctor Paul Christo with us. Doctor Crown's, my first question to you is how long has a body How long has the person been dead before their body is cold to the touch?

Nine one one. What a horrible event to leave your husband go fall asleep in the bedroom with one of your sons. She wanders back in there to sleep in their bed around three am and her husband is cold to the touch. With me in all star panel to make sense of what we know right now. But first I want to go to Chief medical examiner out of Terran County. That's Fort Worth Lecturer, University of Texas, Austin and Texas Christian University Medical School, Doctor Kendall Crowns, Doctor Crowns, it's such an honor to have you and doctor Paul Christo with us. Doctor Crown's, my first question to you is how long has a body How long has the person been dead before their body is cold to the touch?

Hugely wants your heart job reading and your body taking on the mature of the surrounding environment so it can happen in a probably about a half hour to an hour where you can start noticing the body and change of temper temperature gotten cold.

Hugely wants your heart job reading and your body taking on the mature of the surrounding environment so it can happen in a probably about a half hour to an hour where you can start noticing the body and change of temper temperature gotten cold.

Okay, you know, doctor Kindle Crowns. I know you're the MD and I'm the JD. But I believe I'm going to seek a second opinion. I'm going to go to doctor Paul Christo, professor at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, author of Aches and Gains, A Comprehensive Guide to Overcoming Your Pain, Doctor Paul Christo, I thought it would take so much longer for a body to get completely cold to the touch, and I do agree with doctor Kendall Crowns regarding the ambient air in the room and what difference that would make. But in this case, they were at home with their three little boys, so I'm assuming I think it's safe to assume the temperature would have been between sixty nine and let's just say seventy one.

Okay, you know, doctor Kindle Crowns. I know you're the MD and I'm the JD. But I believe I'm going to seek a second opinion. I'm going to go to doctor Paul Christo, professor at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, author of Aches and Gains, A Comprehensive Guide to Overcoming Your Pain, Doctor Paul Christo, I thought it would take so much longer for a body to get completely cold to the touch, and I do agree with doctor Kendall Crowns regarding the ambient air in the room and what difference that would make. But in this case, they were at home with their three little boys, so I'm assuming I think it's safe to assume the temperature would have been between sixty nine and let's just say seventy one.

Right, I mean, I would probably say somewhere around similar, doctor crown probably, you know, forty minutes to an hour's.

Right, I mean, I would probably say somewhere around similar, doctor crown probably, you know, forty minutes to an hour's.

Dodgor Paul Christo. How often do people just die in their sleep? I mean, this is a young man who was thirty nine years old at the time of his death.

Dodgor Paul Christo. How often do people just die in their sleep? I mean, this is a young man who was thirty nine years old at the time of his death.

Not very often surprised to say, I mean, this is this is a rare event. It doesn't happen unless you have, you know, maybe some underlying cardiac problems, for example, maybe pulmonary problems. It's very rare just to drop dead in your sleep.

Not very often surprised to say, I mean, this is this is a rare event. It doesn't happen unless you have, you know, maybe some underlying cardiac problems, for example, maybe pulmonary problems. It's very rare just to drop dead in your sleep.

You know, Doctor Angela Arnold joining me psychiatrist, renowned psychiatrist in the Atlanta jurisdiction at angela Arnold MD dot com. Doctor Angie. Maybe it's just my line of business, but when I've ever I hear died in your sleep, there's always something bad attached to that. But I guess people really do die in their sleep.

You know, Doctor Angela Arnold joining me psychiatrist, renowned psychiatrist in the Atlanta jurisdiction at angela Arnold MD dot com. Doctor Angie. Maybe it's just my line of business, but when I've ever I hear died in your sleep, there's always something bad attached to that. But I guess people really do die in their sleep.

Well, they do, Nancy, And it's usually older people who die in their sleep. They can suffer in a rhythmia of their heart, and those are the people that can die in their sleep. But like you said, Nancy, whenever we hear of a younger person dying in their sleep, there's there's some curiosity about that. I mean, young people don't have heart issues typically, so young people don't typically die in their sleep, and that's typically what you die from in the at night.

Well, they do, Nancy, And it's usually older people who die in their sleep. They can suffer in a rhythmia of their heart, and those are the people that can die in their sleep. But like you said, Nancy, whenever we hear of a younger person dying in their sleep, there's there's some curiosity about that. I mean, young people don't have heart issues typically, so young people don't typically die in their sleep, and that's typically what you die from in the at night.

I disagree with you too, all three of you, doctors. I and my vast knowledge of medicine disagree with all of you. Because my dad had his first coronary thrombosis at age thirty nine. That's pretty young. And this guy is thirty nine.

I disagree with you too, all three of you, doctors. I and my vast knowledge of medicine disagree with all of you. Because my dad had his first coronary thrombosis at age thirty nine. That's pretty young. And this guy is thirty nine.

Well it is, Nancy, but that's still unusual. It's not that's not the norm. That's all I would say.

Well it is, Nancy, but that's still unusual. It's not that's not the norm. That's all I would say.

Okay, all right, let me get back on track. This guy is actually celebrating, you know. Let me let Jen Smith tell you. Jen Smith is joining us chief investigative reporter for dailymail dot com on this from the very beginning. The unusual death of Eric Rich is just thirty nine years old, father of three little boys. Jen, thank you for being with us. Explain to me how this whole thing went down, because they were having a celebration that evening. From what I understand, the wife, Corey Richans, flips houses. She'll buy and she's got a business partner. They buy houses, they improve them, and then they flip them, like on AHGTV the flip your house. That's what she does. And that evening they were having some kind of a celebration because she had closed on a home.

Okay, all right, let me get back on track. This guy is actually celebrating, you know. Let me let Jen Smith tell you. Jen Smith is joining us chief investigative reporter for dailymail dot com on this from the very beginning. The unusual death of Eric Rich is just thirty nine years old, father of three little boys. Jen, thank you for being with us. Explain to me how this whole thing went down, because they were having a celebration that evening. From what I understand, the wife, Corey Richans, flips houses. She'll buy and she's got a business partner. They buy houses, they improve them, and then they flip them, like on AHGTV the flip your house. That's what she does. And that evening they were having some kind of a celebration because she had closed on a home.

You tell me, Jen, Yeah, that's exactly right Nowci. But they actually our understanding of it is that they worked pretty closely together Kreer and her husband Eric, like you say, exactly the type of business that you just described. They flipped houses. So when Eric came home that evening and his wife is at the house with the kids, they're celebrating because he has to close a deal on a sale of a home, so bringing more money into the family. And listen, this is a picture perfect family. They lived in a really nice area not too far outside of Park City in Utah. The tow is called Kamas, really beautiful rural in the mountains, and they had this great life. They themselves lived in a one point one million dollar home. And as you rightly pointed out, Eric had just closed another deal. So it was a happy occasion for the Richards family this evening.

You tell me, Jen, Yeah, that's exactly right Nowci. But they actually our understanding of it is that they worked pretty closely together Kreer and her husband Eric, like you say, exactly the type of business that you just described. They flipped houses. So when Eric came home that evening and his wife is at the house with the kids, they're celebrating because he has to close a deal on a sale of a home, so bringing more money into the family. And listen, this is a picture perfect family. They lived in a really nice area not too far outside of Park City in Utah. The tow is called Kamas, really beautiful rural in the mountains, and they had this great life. They themselves lived in a one point one million dollar home. And as you rightly pointed out, Eric had just closed another deal. So it was a happy occasion for the Richards family this evening.

Now, let me understand they're Mormons, correct, they are?

Now, let me understand they're Mormons, correct, they are?

Yeah, so Eric Richards actually comes from a pretty prominent Mormon family. The Richards family is a large family in at least Stummit County. This is the area of Utah that we're talking about, many many relatives and very well known in the community. He and Tury had been married for nine years and they had three beautiful boys together when he died.

Yeah, so Eric Richards actually comes from a pretty prominent Mormon family. The Richards family is a large family in at least Stummit County. This is the area of Utah that we're talking about, many many relatives and very well known in the community. He and Tury had been married for nine years and they had three beautiful boys together when he died.

Here's my question. I have several friends that are about Mormons. They don't even drink chocolate milk gin because chocolate is a stimulant. So these two are having moscow mules.

Here's my question. I have several friends that are about Mormons. They don't even drink chocolate milk gin because chocolate is a stimulant. So these two are having moscow mules.

Yeah, So what we know know is that after he returns home from closing this deal, as a celebration, Curi, his wife makes him a moscow mules, the vodka ba his cocktail, and that is where they kind of leave things for the night.

Yeah, So what we know know is that after he returns home from closing this deal, as a celebration, Curi, his wife makes him a moscow mules, the vodka ba his cocktail, and that is where they kind of leave things for the night.

Like you say, she goes off to get with the son who is having a nightmare, sleeps in the room with the sun having a nightmare. Yeah, and she leaves him sitting up in bed, having his drink, TV going, Everything's fine. So this mom devastated finding her husband cold in the bed and having all sorts of survivor guilt. Why did I leave him? I'm alive, he's dead. That she and her children get together and they actually write a book call are You with Me? Because it's not like are you with me? Like do you understand? It's literally, are you with me? Dad? Are you still with me? Because her three little boys were having such a horrible time dealing with their father's sudden death, she writes the book and she's on local TV promoting it, and I want you to hear her words, devastated after her husband's death. Take a list an hour cut eight.

Like you say, she goes off to get with the son who is having a nightmare, sleeps in the room with the sun having a nightmare. Yeah, and she leaves him sitting up in bed, having his drink, TV going, Everything's fine. So this mom devastated finding her husband cold in the bed and having all sorts of survivor guilt. Why did I leave him? I'm alive, he's dead. That she and her children get together and they actually write a book call are You with Me? Because it's not like are you with me? Like do you understand? It's literally, are you with me? Dad? Are you still with me? Because her three little boys were having such a horrible time dealing with their father's sudden death, she writes the book and she's on local TV promoting it, and I want you to hear her words, devastated after her husband's death. Take a list an hour cut eight.

My husband passed away unexpectedly last year. So it's March fourth, was a one year anniversary for us, and he was thirty nine. It completely took us all by shock. And we have three little boys, ten, nine, and six, and you know, we kind of my kids and I kind of wrote this book on the different emotions and grieving processes that we've experienced last year, and you know, hoping that it can kind of help other kids, you know, deal with this kind of you know, find happiness some some way or another.

My husband passed away unexpectedly last year. So it's March fourth, was a one year anniversary for us, and he was thirty nine. It completely took us all by shock. And we have three little boys, ten, nine, and six, and you know, we kind of my kids and I kind of wrote this book on the different emotions and grieving processes that we've experienced last year, and you know, hoping that it can kind of help other kids, you know, deal with this kind of you know, find happiness some some way or another.

And let's hear a little bit more of Corey Rich's on Good Things Utah that's on KTVX, describing what she and her children had in your are cut nine.

And let's hear a little bit more of Corey Rich's on Good Things Utah that's on KTVX, describing what she and her children had in your are cut nine.

I'm new to all of this, so kind of doing all you know, research and reading books and things to try and understand, you know, not only how to grieve as a widow, as a wife, but also you know, with my kids, how to help them, how to help them understand what just happened. And what I have kind of found is as I mentioned, it's kind of the three c's is how I has visualized it, and it's you know, connection, continuity, and care, and it's you know, making sure connection is the one major one, and making sure that their spirit is always alive in your home, you know, and memories are always brought up, and doing things that your loved ones love to do, whether it's writing, bikes, their favorite dinner, and just constantly you know, talking about that.

I'm new to all of this, so kind of doing all you know, research and reading books and things to try and understand, you know, not only how to grieve as a widow, as a wife, but also you know, with my kids, how to help them, how to help them understand what just happened. And what I have kind of found is as I mentioned, it's kind of the three c's is how I has visualized it, and it's you know, connection, continuity, and care, and it's you know, making sure connection is the one major one, and making sure that their spirit is always alive in your home, you know, and memories are always brought up, and doing things that your loved ones love to do, whether it's writing, bikes, their favorite dinner, and just constantly you know, talking about that.

And I'm just thinking about how children cope with the death of a dad and doing things that remind you of your loved one. To doctor Angie Arnold, I know every year on my dad's birthday every night after dinner, because my dad and mom had largely moved in with us, spending a lot of times with us, because you know, the children were so little. Just as he passed away, and every night after supper, I would make him a cup of decaf. So every year on his birthday or really throughout the year, I will send my sister a picture, you know, like on a text, of a cup of decaf just steaming, because we both know what that means. And I'm just wondering what you, as a parent can do to help your children, how you Scrucia. I mean, I was an adult when my father passed away, but these are little little boys.

And I'm just thinking about how children cope with the death of a dad and doing things that remind you of your loved one. To doctor Angie Arnold, I know every year on my dad's birthday every night after dinner, because my dad and mom had largely moved in with us, spending a lot of times with us, because you know, the children were so little. Just as he passed away, and every night after supper, I would make him a cup of decaf. So every year on his birthday or really throughout the year, I will send my sister a picture, you know, like on a text, of a cup of decaf just steaming, because we both know what that means. And I'm just wondering what you, as a parent can do to help your children, how you Scrucia. I mean, I was an adult when my father passed away, but these are little little boys.

Well, and Nancy, it's important for all of us to remember that each child will will remember this differently according to how old they are. Each child is going to have a different experience of this grief, So it's very important to work with each child where they are when this happens, and not gloss it over as if everyone's experiencing the same kind of grief. Depending how young some of the children are, they may not have the words to express how they feel about the fact that their father is gone. The older ones have had more time with their dad, and they're going to have different memories with their dad. So it's very important to help the children remember the things that they remember according to what their ages were when the parent passed away.

Well, and Nancy, it's important for all of us to remember that each child will will remember this differently according to how old they are. Each child is going to have a different experience of this grief, So it's very important to work with each child where they are when this happens, and not gloss it over as if everyone's experiencing the same kind of grief. Depending how young some of the children are, they may not have the words to express how they feel about the fact that their father is gone. The older ones have had more time with their dad, and they're going to have different memories with their dad. So it's very important to help the children remember the things that they remember according to what their ages were when the parent passed away.

And this is how they came up with the name of the book. Are You with Me and Our cut eleven.

And this is how they came up with the name of the book. Are You with Me and Our cut eleven.

The first day of SKO and you know all the nerves that kids face on the first day of school with nuke, you know, and just hoping, you know, Dad, like walk with me, like help me get through today.

The first day of SKO and you know all the nerves that kids face on the first day of school with nuke, you know, and just hoping, you know, Dad, like walk with me, like help me get through today.

They give me the strength to do that.

They give me the strength to do that.

And it has found you know, it's been a lot of peace for my kids to you know, to really remember that in the back of their head that they're never alone.

And it has found you know, it's been a lot of peace for my kids to you know, to really remember that in the back of their head that they're never alone.

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You know, I want to go back to doctor Kendall Crown's chief medical examiner, Terran County, Doctor Crowns. I remember as a girl, my dad have his first carnary thrombosis at home and my mom, you know, screaming, and I could hear a slapping sound. She was trying to or that's what I thought it was, and it was her trying to give him CPR to keep him alive. The I'm just thinking about these three little boys in that home when mom is doing CPR on Eric Richards, who is dead in the bedroom, already cold to the touch. And I guess, once you're call to the touch, there's no bringing you back. Would you agree with that, Doctor Crowns.

You know, I want to go back to doctor Kendall Crown's chief medical examiner, Terran County, Doctor Crowns. I remember as a girl, my dad have his first carnary thrombosis at home and my mom, you know, screaming, and I could hear a slapping sound. She was trying to or that's what I thought it was, and it was her trying to give him CPR to keep him alive. The I'm just thinking about these three little boys in that home when mom is doing CPR on Eric Richards, who is dead in the bedroom, already cold to the touch. And I guess, once you're call to the touch, there's no bringing you back. Would you agree with that, Doctor Crowns.

I would agree with that. Once you've gotten called, you're probably pat of the time period where you can say so.

I would agree with that. Once you've gotten called, you're probably pat of the time period where you can say so.

Doctor Kendall Crowns. It is unusual for thirty nine year old man to just die in his sleep. So what would a medical examiner do in order to determine cause of death?

Doctor Kendall Crowns. It is unusual for thirty nine year old man to just die in his sleep. So what would a medical examiner do in order to determine cause of death?

Well, what you do is a complete autopsy. If thirty nine year olds usually don't die suddenly like that, there's usually something else going on. So by doing a complete autopsy, you would check all the organs for any disease, processes, cornary promposas, cordinary or disease, different part and abnormalities, et cetera. And then what you'd also do is draw toxicology to run toxicology screens to see if there for any drugs on board, and also do electrolytes or fluids from the eyeball, where you could look at his dehydration status, his glue coos the CFP had diabetes or.

Well, what you do is a complete autopsy. If thirty nine year olds usually don't die suddenly like that, there's usually something else going on. So by doing a complete autopsy, you would check all the organs for any disease, processes, cornary promposas, cordinary or disease, different part and abnormalities, et cetera. And then what you'd also do is draw toxicology to run toxicology screens to see if there for any drugs on board, and also do electrolytes or fluids from the eyeball, where you could look at his dehydration status, his glue coos the CFP had diabetes or.

Anything like that.

Anything like that.

To justman joining us from dailymail dot com, I've taken a long look at what we have of the medical examiner's report. What exactly is the cause of death for Eric Richards?

To justman joining us from dailymail dot com, I've taken a long look at what we have of the medical examiner's report. What exactly is the cause of death for Eric Richards?

Well, we believe that according to this report, it's a fatal dose of fentanyl, which is a synthetic opioid. Now you need maybe two milligrams of this doctor to kill you. He had five times out amoment in his body.

Well, we believe that according to this report, it's a fatal dose of fentanyl, which is a synthetic opioid. Now you need maybe two milligrams of this doctor to kill you. He had five times out amoment in his body.

Five times the amount of a lethal dose a sentinel. You know, I introduced to you doctor Paul Christo earlier. In addition to being an associate prophet John Hopkins School of Medicine, that's not shabby, he's also an opioid expert, doctor Christo. As I said earlier, this is a devout Mormon family. Again, they don't even drink chocolate milk because they think it's a stimulant. So I've got them drinking moscow mules plus fentunel. What exactly is fentanyl? I know there's an opioid crisis I know there's a fentinyl crisis. I know people are dying every day a fentyl overdose. But could you give us some street names. What is fentanyl and what does it do to you?

Five times the amount of a lethal dose a sentinel. You know, I introduced to you doctor Paul Christo earlier. In addition to being an associate prophet John Hopkins School of Medicine, that's not shabby, he's also an opioid expert, doctor Christo. As I said earlier, this is a devout Mormon family. Again, they don't even drink chocolate milk because they think it's a stimulant. So I've got them drinking moscow mules plus fentunel. What exactly is fentanyl? I know there's an opioid crisis I know there's a fentinyl crisis. I know people are dying every day a fentyl overdose. But could you give us some street names. What is fentanyl and what does it do to you?

Well, fentanyl is an opioid first and foremost, and opioids are used as pain relievers. They enter the bloodstream, they bind to various different what are called opioid receptors in the brain and spinal cord to reduce pain. First and foremost. We use them for many many years as pain specialists and also in the operating room. Is anisphysiologists. But fentanyl is synthetic, So non synthetic opioids would be like codeine for example, or morphine. Synthetic means it's just made in the laboratory of a pharmaceutical company. Typically can be very useful as a pain reliever.

Well, fentanyl is an opioid first and foremost, and opioids are used as pain relievers. They enter the bloodstream, they bind to various different what are called opioid receptors in the brain and spinal cord to reduce pain. First and foremost. We use them for many many years as pain specialists and also in the operating room. Is anisphysiologists. But fentanyl is synthetic, So non synthetic opioids would be like codeine for example, or morphine. Synthetic means it's just made in the laboratory of a pharmaceutical company. Typically can be very useful as a pain reliever.

I mean l like Walter White breaking bad. Yes, you make it in a lab well, then make it in an RV sometimes, but you just make it, you cook it up.

I mean l like Walter White breaking bad. Yes, you make it in a lab well, then make it in an RV sometimes, but you just make it, you cook it up.

Yeah, that's right, you can make it an RV. You can make it illegally, certainly, yes, and then pharmaceutically it's legal.

Yeah, that's right, you can make it an RV. You can make it illegally, certainly, yes, and then pharmaceutically it's legal.

So glad you said that, Doctor, Christo because a further analysis reveals that the fentanyl in Eric's blood was not legal. So apparently you can tell whether fentanyl is illegal, such as prescribed by a doctor and you go get it at the pharmacy or illegal, And I guess that goes straight back to how it's made.

So glad you said that, Doctor, Christo because a further analysis reveals that the fentanyl in Eric's blood was not legal. So apparently you can tell whether fentanyl is illegal, such as prescribed by a doctor and you go get it at the pharmacy or illegal, And I guess that goes straight back to how it's made.

That's right.

That's right.

We have more sophisticated methods now determining whether medications or drugs are legal or illegal. And in this case, it sounds like it was illegal.

We have more sophisticated methods now determining whether medications or drugs are legal or illegal. And in this case, it sounds like it was illegal.

So bottom line, he's not getting it from the Walgreens or the CVS or the Dwayne Reid. He's getting it somewhere else. Okay, uh, you know who would know this on this panel, Let's just go with doctor Angie Arnold. Do you know what cine? Moscow mule?

So bottom line, he's not getting it from the Walgreens or the CVS or the Dwayne Reid. He's getting it somewhere else. Okay, uh, you know who would know this on this panel, Let's just go with doctor Angie Arnold. Do you know what cine? Moscow mule?

No?

No?

I'm sorry I don't.

I'm sorry I don't.

Oh man, I got a surprise that you just surprised me because I could just see you kicked bat with some of those copper I bet Bobby Chacone does. Bobby chicon former special agent with the FBI and screenwriter for Criminal Minds. You can find him at Bobby chicuone dot com. Bobby, there is no way you don't know what a moscow mule is no.

Oh man, I got a surprise that you just surprised me because I could just see you kicked bat with some of those copper I bet Bobby Chacone does. Bobby chicon former special agent with the FBI and screenwriter for Criminal Minds. You can find him at Bobby chicuone dot com. Bobby, there is no way you don't know what a moscow mule is no.

Yeah, the basic ingredients of ginger beer and vodka or some kind of carder liquor's usually served in like a copper cup. It's a very specific drink. Ginger beer obviously ginger people familiar with ginger has a very strong kind of taste, a very unique kind of taste, almost overpowering if you use too much of it. So, yeah, it's a very specific drink. It's become very trendy in recent years. And ginger beer is kind of the overwhelming taste that you get that ginger from the ginger beer, which is the main ingredient.

Yeah, the basic ingredients of ginger beer and vodka or some kind of carder liquor's usually served in like a copper cup. It's a very specific drink. Ginger beer obviously ginger people familiar with ginger has a very strong kind of taste, a very unique kind of taste, almost overpowering if you use too much of it. So, yeah, it's a very specific drink. It's become very trendy in recent years. And ginger beer is kind of the overwhelming taste that you get that ginger from the ginger beer, which is the main ingredient.

To doctor Paul Christa joining us. If you're an expert, what does what does finnyl taste like?

To doctor Paul Christa joining us. If you're an expert, what does what does finnyl taste like?

Mil is usually tasteless. It's usually tasteless.

Mil is usually tasteless. It's usually tasteless.

So if I chewed up an oxy, it would taste like nothing.

So if I chewed up an oxy, it would taste like nothing.

Well, oxy now is different from fentanyl.

Well, oxy now is different from fentanyl.

Okay, that shows how much I know.

Okay, that shows how much I know.

But yes, probably would taste a bit different.

But yes, probably would taste a bit different.

What's a street name for fentanyl?

What's a street name for fentanyl?

There really is no street I mean it typically goes by fentanyl.

There really is no street I mean it typically goes by fentanyl.

Can it be in a tablet?

Can it be in a tablet?

Absolutely?

Absolutely?

And so if I chew up a fentyl tablet, I taste nothing.

And so if I chew up a fentyl tablet, I taste nothing.

Typically You're not going to taste anything unless something's been added to the.

Typically You're not going to taste anything unless something's been added to the.

Tablet interesting, Interesting, doctor Paul Christo. According to my Crack legal analyst Jackie, there are some street names crazy what did you say, Crazy One? Crazy One, dance Fever, Dragon's breath. I've never heard any of that, so I don't know how reliable that is.

Tablet interesting, Interesting, doctor Paul Christo. According to my Crack legal analyst Jackie, there are some street names crazy what did you say, Crazy One? Crazy One, dance Fever, Dragon's breath. I've never heard any of that, so I don't know how reliable that is.

Can I make a statement?

Can I make a statement?

Yes? Jump in.

Yes? Jump in.

So when it first came out, it was called drop dead because a lot of the people who were injecting fentanyl died so quickly they left the needle in their arms. So the street name was originally dropped dead because when you took it, you dropped dead instantly. I think that's kind of fallen out of favor because every every area has for it.

So when it first came out, it was called drop dead because a lot of the people who were injecting fentanyl died so quickly they left the needle in their arms. So the street name was originally dropped dead because when you took it, you dropped dead instantly. I think that's kind of fallen out of favor because every every area has for it.

Well, I guess that's a little bad for business for dopers.

Well, I guess that's a little bad for business for dopers.

Well that business, that's why it started.

Well that business, that's why it started.

Long only you Candle crowns only. Well, you can imagine the shock that reverberates through the community when this goes down. Take a listen our cup fourteen kt the X. We have breaking news of this.

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Our local children's book author charged with murder. Thirty three year old Corey Richards of Chemis is being held in the Summit County jail with no bail. Now she promoted her book on the Grief on Good Things, Utah. That's the video you're seeing here. This is about a month ago. Court documents today showing the murder happened in March of twenty twenty two, an online obituary showing her husband, thirty nine year old Eric Richards, died that same month.

Our local children's book author charged with murder. Thirty three year old Corey Richards of Chemis is being held in the Summit County jail with no bail. Now she promoted her book on the Grief on Good Things, Utah. That's the video you're seeing here. This is about a month ago. Court documents today showing the murder happened in March of twenty twenty two, an online obituary showing her husband, thirty nine year old Eric Richards, died that same month.

As it turns out, according to investigators, there had been other previous instances where the wife in this case had tried to murder her husband. And I find it extremely interesting and I want to go to Jeffrey Wolf on this criminal defense attorney, high profile criminal criminal defense attorney joining us out of Colorado. You can find them at Wolflaw Colorado dot com. Jeffrey, you know.

As it turns out, according to investigators, there had been other previous instances where the wife in this case had tried to murder her husband. And I find it extremely interesting and I want to go to Jeffrey Wolf on this criminal defense attorney, high profile criminal criminal defense attorney joining us out of Colorado. You can find them at Wolflaw Colorado dot com. Jeffrey, you know.

What I love.

What I love.

I love what we call in my jurisdiction similar transactions. Typically, as we saw in the Alex Mardai case, for instance, a person's history of bad acts cannot come in at trial unless and until it has proven that those bad acts are let's just say a fingerprint of the case in chief to show motive, course of conduct, scheme, frame of mind. Would you agree with that, Jeffrey Wolf.

I love what we call in my jurisdiction similar transactions. Typically, as we saw in the Alex Mardai case, for instance, a person's history of bad acts cannot come in at trial unless and until it has proven that those bad acts are let's just say a fingerprint of the case in chief to show motive, course of conduct, scheme, frame of mind. Would you agree with that, Jeffrey Wolf.

Yeah, one hundred percent. The rule you're talking about is Rule four or four B, which is a federal rule of evidence that is mirrored in almost all fifty states. That's going to talk about whether somebody's prior bad acts can come in as evidence in the case against them. Currently, it can't come in to show act and conformity therewith, meaning just because they did something before they did it again, But it can come in for all these other reasons that you're talking about, plan, motive, scheme, modus operandi, to show who this person is, how they operate, and how that ties them to this event.

Yeah, one hundred percent. The rule you're talking about is Rule four or four B, which is a federal rule of evidence that is mirrored in almost all fifty states. That's going to talk about whether somebody's prior bad acts can come in as evidence in the case against them. Currently, it can't come in to show act and conformity therewith, meaning just because they did something before they did it again, But it can come in for all these other reasons that you're talking about, plan, motive, scheme, modus operandi, to show who this person is, how they operate, and how that ties them to this event.

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Two.

Jen joining us from dailymail dot com, Jensmith, what can you tell us about prior incidents, including one on Valentine's Day just a month they month before Eric drops dead in a sleep. Yeah, exactly, so.

Jen joining us from dailymail dot com, Jensmith, what can you tell us about prior incidents, including one on Valentine's Day just a month they month before Eric drops dead in a sleep. Yeah, exactly, so.

We know that the Valentine's Day incident that you mentioned. Then they ate a meal together and he became very ill afterwards. As a result, he ended up telling friends, I think my wife has poisoned me. Not only is that disturbing, but more so is the fact that this was the second time he thought she had tried to poison him. Once previously during a vacation with the family, he told his sister that he thought she had tried to poison him. So one place what happens after that?

We know that the Valentine's Day incident that you mentioned. Then they ate a meal together and he became very ill afterwards. As a result, he ended up telling friends, I think my wife has poisoned me. Not only is that disturbing, but more so is the fact that this was the second time he thought she had tried to poison him. Once previously during a vacation with the family, he told his sister that he thought she had tried to poison him. So one place what happens after that?

So the first time we believe this is according to him, And I'm going to go back to Jeff wolf Of just a moment about how you can or cannot use the words of someone now dead in court because under the sixth Amendment, everybody on trial has the right to cross examine witnesses, evidence, documents, tests used against them, and if the person's now dead, you cannot cross examine them. It's hearsay. So how can you get this information into evidence to show if you can, that there were prior attempts on Eric's life. The first one, Jenn Smith, is I believe about three years ago in Greece, family vacation, as you described, and they had dinner and drinks together and he got very very ill, and that's when he called a sister. Was that when he called a sister?

So the first time we believe this is according to him, And I'm going to go back to Jeff wolf Of just a moment about how you can or cannot use the words of someone now dead in court because under the sixth Amendment, everybody on trial has the right to cross examine witnesses, evidence, documents, tests used against them, and if the person's now dead, you cannot cross examine them. It's hearsay. So how can you get this information into evidence to show if you can, that there were prior attempts on Eric's life. The first one, Jenn Smith, is I believe about three years ago in Greece, family vacation, as you described, and they had dinner and drinks together and he got very very ill, and that's when he called a sister. Was that when he called a sister?

Yeah, we think so, we know that we're not sure exactly when this vacation was, only that it was several years ago, maybe a few years ago. And he confided in his sister. And this is a sister who he continued to confide in especially about his marital problems with Curry. So that was the first instant.

Yeah, we think so, we know that we're not sure exactly when this vacation was, only that it was several years ago, maybe a few years ago. And he confided in his sister. And this is a sister who he continued to confide in especially about his marital problems with Curry. So that was the first instant.

So I believe it was about three years ago. That was in Greece. Fast forward, he didn't die. Fast forward to this past March. Okay, March a year ago. Yeah, that's when he died the month before on Valentine's Day. What happened Jin? What happened Jen Smith?

So I believe it was about three years ago. That was in Greece. Fast forward, he didn't die. Fast forward to this past March. Okay, March a year ago. Yeah, that's when he died the month before on Valentine's Day. What happened Jin? What happened Jen Smith?

We know that they sat down to have dinner together in their home and for whatever reason, even though he has this previous suspicion that his wife has tried to poison him at least once before he sits her, he has a meal with her and again he becomes incredibly ill. He doesn't die, and we don't really know even if he went to the hospital. We're just going off of what we've seen in the start for it, and it's been released so far. He became very very ill after that Valentine see.

We know that they sat down to have dinner together in their home and for whatever reason, even though he has this previous suspicion that his wife has tried to poison him at least once before he sits her, he has a meal with her and again he becomes incredibly ill. He doesn't die, and we don't really know even if he went to the hospital. We're just going off of what we've seen in the start for it, and it's been released so far. He became very very ill after that Valentine see.

And it was so bad he used an EpiPen and vinagrill and still went unconscious. Guess what, he didn't die again, Doctor Angie Arnold, if I had two brushes with death while David is hovering over me, I would leave. But I've got a feeling this guy, Eric Richards, did not want to believe his wife would try to kill him, even though he verbalized that I think she's trying to poison me. I think he didn't want to truly accept it and leave the boys.

And it was so bad he used an EpiPen and vinagrill and still went unconscious. Guess what, he didn't die again, Doctor Angie Arnold, if I had two brushes with death while David is hovering over me, I would leave. But I've got a feeling this guy, Eric Richards, did not want to believe his wife would try to kill him, even though he verbalized that I think she's trying to poison me. I think he didn't want to truly accept it and leave the boys.

I completely agree with you. And if you thought that someone was actually trying to kill you, and this is the person that has been called love of your life, then what could she possibly do to your children if you're not there? So you can't abandon your children for your own sake. No, people don't do that. So he was just taking his chances. I guess, scared, probably in some disbelief that she would actually want to kill him. Right, So you might think it, but you're still going to be in disbelief that this woman who you're sleeping with and who you're going on trips with and you're going to the kids' baseball games with, is actually trying to kill you, and who you're practicing your Mormon religion with. How we call that an incongruent thought? How incongruent could that be to this man? Okay, maybe she's trying to kill me, but really is she?

I completely agree with you. And if you thought that someone was actually trying to kill you, and this is the person that has been called love of your life, then what could she possibly do to your children if you're not there? So you can't abandon your children for your own sake. No, people don't do that. So he was just taking his chances. I guess, scared, probably in some disbelief that she would actually want to kill him. Right, So you might think it, but you're still going to be in disbelief that this woman who you're sleeping with and who you're going on trips with and you're going to the kids' baseball games with, is actually trying to kill you, and who you're practicing your Mormon religion with. How we call that an incongruent thought? How incongruent could that be to this man? Okay, maybe she's trying to kill me, but really is she?

Is?

Is?

She?

She?

Yeah? I think he just really he may have said that, but he couldn't truly take it in. You know another thing, I love Bobby Chacone as I know you do too, special agent with the FBI. I love cell phone data. I love it so much. I want you to take a listen to our cut seventeen our friend Ariel Harrison.

Yeah? I think he just really he may have said that, but he couldn't truly take it in. You know another thing, I love Bobby Chacone as I know you do too, special agent with the FBI. I love cell phone data. I love it so much. I want you to take a listen to our cut seventeen our friend Ariel Harrison.

Evidence gathered in the death investigation revealed Corey claims she was away from her phone that night and it was left on a charger by her bed. Teams, However, gathered evidence the phone was in use during that time and sent messages had been deleted. Additional evidence showed Corey was in contact with a drug dealer in Ogden leading up to Eric's death. The legal document state she received both hydrocodone pills and fentanyl from the dealer, claiming the drugs were intended for a client experiencing back pain. At one point, please say she requested for quote the Michael Jackson stuff, asking specifically for fentanyl. Information from the autopsy report determined Eric died from an overdose of fentanyl five times the lethal dosage.

Evidence gathered in the death investigation revealed Corey claims she was away from her phone that night and it was left on a charger by her bed. Teams, However, gathered evidence the phone was in use during that time and sent messages had been deleted. Additional evidence showed Corey was in contact with a drug dealer in Ogden leading up to Eric's death. The legal document state she received both hydrocodone pills and fentanyl from the dealer, claiming the drugs were intended for a client experiencing back pain. At one point, please say she requested for quote the Michael Jackson stuff, asking specifically for fentanyl. Information from the autopsy report determined Eric died from an overdose of fentanyl five times the lethal dosage.

Well that's like drinking from the fire hydrant. That is so much, way too fast. I can't drink it and let's just start with Bobby Chacne the phone evidence, because she says, I wasn't on the phone all night. I plugged it in in our room, and then I went down the hall to sleep with one of my boys who was having nightmares. I go back at three am ish and I find him culture the touch. Did I immediately perform CPR, But the phone says and helped me out? Jas Smith, I believe the phones showed that there have been a lot of texting back and forth during the time where she says the phone was plugged in, not in use while she was in her son's room, and all those texts were deleted. So what is she doing texting back and forth while her husband is dying and then lying about it? I mean, Ja Smith, that are those facts correct?

Well that's like drinking from the fire hydrant. That is so much, way too fast. I can't drink it and let's just start with Bobby Chacne the phone evidence, because she says, I wasn't on the phone all night. I plugged it in in our room, and then I went down the hall to sleep with one of my boys who was having nightmares. I go back at three am ish and I find him culture the touch. Did I immediately perform CPR, But the phone says and helped me out? Jas Smith, I believe the phones showed that there have been a lot of texting back and forth during the time where she says the phone was plugged in, not in use while she was in her son's room, and all those texts were deleted. So what is she doing texting back and forth while her husband is dying and then lying about it? I mean, Ja Smith, that are those facts correct?

Those facts are absolutely correct. Now, she obviously thought that she was outsmarting the authority when she told them that she left her phone, and maybe she thought that it was the location inside the heismand so but yeah, she there is a record, there's a digital record. We know that we've spoken about it many times. Then you can't get rid of it, this digital foit print.

Those facts are absolutely correct. Now, she obviously thought that she was outsmarting the authority when she told them that she left her phone, and maybe she thought that it was the location inside the heismand so but yeah, she there is a record, there's a digital record. We know that we've spoken about it many times. Then you can't get rid of it, this digital foit print.

Yes, Bobby's Cohn just saw digital evidence basically convict Alex Murdogg and the double murder of his wife and son, Maggie and Maggie and Paul. So what about this, have my phone plugged in the whole night, you know, until I find him killed? Overdad?

Yes, Bobby's Cohn just saw digital evidence basically convict Alex Murdogg and the double murder of his wife and son, Maggie and Maggie and Paul. So what about this, have my phone plugged in the whole night, you know, until I find him killed? Overdad?

Yeah, I mean when you have a case like this with she's the only other person that could have, you know, either rendered aid or caused harm. There's no fourth entry, there's no blunt trauma. You immediately start to get her story and for her her initial statement. The minute those phone records come back and you realize she lied to you, she has to become suspect number one because now, why would a wife lie about using her phone in the immediate aftermath of finding her husband dead, or during the period where she found him dead, or shortly before that. So the minute you find out she lied to you about the phone, you have to start taking a much harder look at her, who her associates, look at her phone records, harder who shod been calling? Who should be going in contact with? So she made her by lying, She made herself suspect number one. If she would have simply come up with a different excuse on why she was texting maybe she had the phone in bed with her with the kid and she was. But the minute she lied about that, she has to become suspect one right then.

Yeah, I mean when you have a case like this with she's the only other person that could have, you know, either rendered aid or caused harm. There's no fourth entry, there's no blunt trauma. You immediately start to get her story and for her her initial statement. The minute those phone records come back and you realize she lied to you, she has to become suspect number one because now, why would a wife lie about using her phone in the immediate aftermath of finding her husband dead, or during the period where she found him dead, or shortly before that. So the minute you find out she lied to you about the phone, you have to start taking a much harder look at her, who her associates, look at her phone records, harder who shod been calling? Who should be going in contact with? So she made her by lying, She made herself suspect number one. If she would have simply come up with a different excuse on why she was texting maybe she had the phone in bed with her with the kid and she was. But the minute she lied about that, she has to become suspect one right then.

The gig is up. Jeffrey Wolf, high profile lawyer joining us out of Colorado at Wolflawcolorado dot com. I want you to take a listen to another alarming circumstance and our cut three our friends from crime online dot com.

The gig is up. Jeffrey Wolf, high profile lawyer joining us out of Colorado at Wolflawcolorado dot com. I want you to take a listen to another alarming circumstance and our cut three our friends from crime online dot com.

Valentine's Day twenty twenty two. Eric Richins becomes violently ill after suffering an allergic reaction after having dinner with his wife of nine years, Corey. He breaks out in hives, can't Breathe passes out after using his son's EpiPen and taking Benadreel. When Eric wakes up, he calls his business partner, Cody Wright to let him know what has just happened. Then, without Corey knowing, Eric changes the beneficiary of his will and his power of attorney, replacing his wife Corey with his sister. Legal paperwork suggests that Eric believes Corey might kill him for the money, and he wants his children to be financially secure.

Valentine's Day twenty twenty two. Eric Richins becomes violently ill after suffering an allergic reaction after having dinner with his wife of nine years, Corey. He breaks out in hives, can't Breathe passes out after using his son's EpiPen and taking Benadreel. When Eric wakes up, he calls his business partner, Cody Wright to let him know what has just happened. Then, without Corey knowing, Eric changes the beneficiary of his will and his power of attorney, replacing his wife Corey with his sister. Legal paperwork suggests that Eric believes Corey might kill him for the money, and he wants his children to be financially secure.

I mean, Jeffrey Wolf, Mini A true word is spoken in just says Shakespeare. But truer words were never spoken. He goes, she might try to just kill me for the money. He's dead.

I mean, Jeffrey Wolf, Mini A true word is spoken in just says Shakespeare. But truer words were never spoken. He goes, she might try to just kill me for the money. He's dead.

Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Here, you've got her this part of Jeffrey Wolf. She goes into his life insurance policy where his partner, Cody is his beneficiary, his business partner, and she changes it to make her exclusively the life insurance policy beneficiary. And he's so worried after this Valentine's Day incident where he gets horribly ill, he cracks a joke, Hey, she might kill me for the money, and he changes his will. I mean, Jeffrey willf That is no joke.

Here, you've got her this part of Jeffrey Wolf. She goes into his life insurance policy where his partner, Cody is his beneficiary, his business partner, and she changes it to make her exclusively the life insurance policy beneficiary. And he's so worried after this Valentine's Day incident where he gets horribly ill, he cracks a joke, Hey, she might kill me for the money, and he changes his will. I mean, Jeffrey willf That is no joke.

No, it certainly is no joke. And what you saw here in this case is you see her attempt to take his business life insurance policy. I have one with my law partner. If something happens to one of us, we want to make sure the business is secure. And so she goes into that policy and attempts to change it so that she gets the money if he dies. And then he has this magic allergic reaction. My wife has a severe allergy that could cause problems for her. One of my employees, does you can bet your bottom dollar. If I'm making them food or if I'm buying a meal for them, I'm making sure that those ingredients are not present, because those are people I care about who I have a knowledge would be in trouble.

No, it certainly is no joke. And what you saw here in this case is you see her attempt to take his business life insurance policy. I have one with my law partner. If something happens to one of us, we want to make sure the business is secure. And so she goes into that policy and attempts to change it so that she gets the money if he dies. And then he has this magic allergic reaction. My wife has a severe allergy that could cause problems for her. One of my employees, does you can bet your bottom dollar. If I'm making them food or if I'm buying a meal for them, I'm making sure that those ingredients are not present, because those are people I care about who I have a knowledge would be in trouble.

What is your wife allergic to you? By the way, She's.

What is your wife allergic to you? By the way, She's.

Allergic to raw tomatoes. It's a very unique allergy that a lot of restaurants have trouble with. But you can bet your bottom dollar there's no raw tomatoes than anything I buy her or serve her, because I know what would happen, okay, And so the fact that she did that is incredibly concerning. And she did it after attempting to make that change. The company caught it, by the way, and it was changed back. And then when he wakes up from that, he calls his business partner to tell him his suspicions. Joking or not, that could be a present sense impression, which is a reason to get hearsay in at the trial. Since you were mentioning hearsay before. Wasn't aware I had an evidence test today, but I'm going to pass it.

Allergic to raw tomatoes. It's a very unique allergy that a lot of restaurants have trouble with. But you can bet your bottom dollar there's no raw tomatoes than anything I buy her or serve her, because I know what would happen, okay, And so the fact that she did that is incredibly concerning. And she did it after attempting to make that change. The company caught it, by the way, and it was changed back. And then when he wakes up from that, he calls his business partner to tell him his suspicions. Joking or not, that could be a present sense impression, which is a reason to get hearsay in at the trial. Since you were mentioning hearsay before. Wasn't aware I had an evidence test today, but I'm going to pass it.

I was ready to pounce on you with a here's say loophole that go.

I was ready to pounce on you with a here's say loophole that go.

Ahead, I'm ready for it. I'm ready for it. My evidence practicum professor from law school would be so proud and so present. Sense impression allows those statements of somebody who is not available to be cross examined.

Ahead, I'm ready for it. I'm ready for it. My evidence practicum professor from law school would be so proud and so present. Sense impression allows those statements of somebody who is not available to be cross examined.

To come in.

To come in.

But it's going to require a recency to the event and something to say that they were still under the impression of that event in order to be able to get that statement in. So how quickly he called him after he woke up needing to use an epipennant benadryl is going to matter a great deal.

But it's going to require a recency to the event and something to say that they were still under the impression of that event in order to be able to get that statement in. So how quickly he called him after he woke up needing to use an epipennant benadryl is going to matter a great deal.

How would you compare presences impression to excited utterance exception?

How would you compare presences impression to excited utterance exception?

So, excited utterance is something that happens right then you're seeing something and you're saying exactly what you're seeing in that moment.

So, excited utterance is something that happens right then you're seeing something and you're saying exactly what you're seeing in that moment.

It happens a lot.

It happens a lot.

On nine to one one.

On nine to one one.

Calls right right when you wake up from an overdose of fentel that kind of excited utterance.

Calls right right when you wake up from an overdose of fentel that kind of excited utterance.

It could be an excited utterance, but it has you have to be excited, right, So it's not just that you're saying something that's happening and relaying it as it's happening.

It could be an excited utterance, but it has you have to be excited, right, So it's not just that you're saying something that's happening and relaying it as it's happening.

You have to be in an.

You have to be in an.

Excited state as well. That emotional state. If he called and he's making a joke about it, that could still be a present sense impression to say that this is something that I have recently seen.

Excited state as well. That emotional state. If he called and he's making a joke about it, that could still be a present sense impression to say that this is something that I have recently seen.

You think there's any problem getting these statements in?

You think there's any problem getting these statements in?

Honestly, I think that it's going to be a tough road to hoe to get these statements of somebody who's not able.

Honestly, I think that it's going to be a tough road to hoe to get these statements of somebody who's not able.

I totally disagree. That's why we have the exceptions to the hearsay role for situations.

I totally disagree. That's why we have the exceptions to the hearsay role for situations.

Just like this. It is exactly why we have the hearsay exceptions. However, in a court and you're doing a criminal trial, the only person who has a right to a fair trial is the criminal defendant, and some judges will err on the side of caution.

Just like this. It is exactly why we have the hearsay exceptions. However, in a court and you're doing a criminal trial, the only person who has a right to a fair trial is the criminal defendant, and some judges will err on the side of caution.

True, Okay, you know what, let me throw something else at you. Let me throw something else at you. Now we already know that you know what's your cut five KSL.

True, Okay, you know what, let me throw something else at you. Let me throw something else at you. Now we already know that you know what's your cut five KSL.

Core papers say Corey first bought painkillers from a drug dealer weeks later, asking for something stronger. She called it some of the Michael Jackson's That was just before Valentine's Day last year. Records say on Valentine's Day, Eric became very ill and believed he had been poisoned and told a friend he thought his wife was trying to poison him. The dealer told police that two weeks later, Corey purchased morphetanyl. Six days later, on March fourth, twenty twenty two, Eric was found dead of a fentanyl overdose.

Core papers say Corey first bought painkillers from a drug dealer weeks later, asking for something stronger. She called it some of the Michael Jackson's That was just before Valentine's Day last year. Records say on Valentine's Day, Eric became very ill and believed he had been poisoned and told a friend he thought his wife was trying to poison him. The dealer told police that two weeks later, Corey purchased morphetanyl. Six days later, on March fourth, twenty twenty two, Eric was found dead of a fentanyl overdose.

Let me get this straight. Jen Smith, chief investigative reporter dailymail dot Com, on the story from the very beginning. So he has the horrible episode in Greece where he calls his sister says, I swear I think she's trying to kill me.

Let me get this straight. Jen Smith, chief investigative reporter dailymail dot Com, on the story from the very beginning. So he has the horrible episode in Greece where he calls his sister says, I swear I think she's trying to kill me.

Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha.

Then fast forward to February twenty twenty two, Valentine's Day, another horrible episode after eating and drinking. There is your similar transaction Jeff Wolfe. Always after ingesting food or or drink beverage with his wife, always the same mo motus operandi, method of operation. It's whatever it is. If whatever he is ingesting, so is Valentine's. They have a dinner and drinks, Bam, he's out again. This time he lives the second time, changes his insurance back, changes his will, And then we find out that prior to the February incident Valentine's and the March incident, she goes back to the drug dealer and she says, hey, I need some more. She buys nine hundred dollars worth of fentinyl in March. He doesn't die. She goes back to the same dealer says, hey, give me some more. Man. She buys nine hundred dollars worth more. This time he dies. You know, have you ever seen those pictures? If you want to be an artist, you can just paint between the lines and suddenly have this beautiful picture. Jeff Wolf's yeah, I have seen it.

Then fast forward to February twenty twenty two, Valentine's Day, another horrible episode after eating and drinking. There is your similar transaction Jeff Wolfe. Always after ingesting food or or drink beverage with his wife, always the same mo motus operandi, method of operation. It's whatever it is. If whatever he is ingesting, so is Valentine's. They have a dinner and drinks, Bam, he's out again. This time he lives the second time, changes his insurance back, changes his will, And then we find out that prior to the February incident Valentine's and the March incident, she goes back to the drug dealer and she says, hey, I need some more. She buys nine hundred dollars worth of fentinyl in March. He doesn't die. She goes back to the same dealer says, hey, give me some more. Man. She buys nine hundred dollars worth more. This time he dies. You know, have you ever seen those pictures? If you want to be an artist, you can just paint between the lines and suddenly have this beautiful picture. Jeff Wolf's yeah, I have seen it.

And that's what we're looking at here, is that the pieces of this just keep coming into focus. And throw on top of the fact that these are similar transactions that could go to a modus operande or a pattern of behavior. But throw into that that a lot of states, my state Colorado being one of them, have domestic violence allowances for similar transaction. Four be evidence as well to show the certain types of behaviors that can occur in a domestic violence relationship as well. And you're going to start seeing all of this stuff like an avalanche coming in against the defense, and it is going to be very, very tough to beat it all back with, no matter how big your that.

And that's what we're looking at here, is that the pieces of this just keep coming into focus. And throw on top of the fact that these are similar transactions that could go to a modus operande or a pattern of behavior. But throw into that that a lot of states, my state Colorado being one of them, have domestic violence allowances for similar transaction. Four be evidence as well to show the certain types of behaviors that can occur in a domestic violence relationship as well. And you're going to start seeing all of this stuff like an avalanche coming in against the defense, and it is going to be very, very tough to beat it all back with, no matter how big your that.

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A Utah woman who wrote a children's book about coping with grief after the death of her husband last year has now been charged with his murder. Corey Richins was arrested yesterday accused of poisoning her husband Eric with fentanyl.

A Utah woman who wrote a children's book about coping with grief after the death of her husband last year has now been charged with his murder. Corey Richins was arrested yesterday accused of poisoning her husband Eric with fentanyl.

She also faced drug charges.

She also faced drug charges.

Just last month, Richards appeared on local TV to promote her book about a boy who lost his dad. At the time, she said her husband's unexpected death left her and their three boys reeling.

Just last month, Richards appeared on local TV to promote her book about a boy who lost his dad. At the time, she said her husband's unexpected death left her and their three boys reeling.

Bobby kin own not only the costly she murdered him. She then writes a book and tries to sell it on TV and on Amazon.

Bobby kin own not only the costly she murdered him. She then writes a book and tries to sell it on TV and on Amazon.

Really, yeah, I'm not sure that. I mean, I'm sure the investigators are watching that. I'm not sure it's attacted that much. I mean, they probably already had her in their sight. You know, her journey to do this kind of brings the next level evil to her. But I'm sure that, you know, once they saw the toxicology report, once they got those phone records back, which was all within six, eight, ten weeks of the event of the murder, they had her in their sites, and it was a matter of finding that drug dealer, getting a statement from them, and just tying everything together with the prosecutor and putting it all together. That her writing the book, I mean, I just I think that impacts her reputation in the community more than this actual case because everything was put together.

Really, yeah, I'm not sure that. I mean, I'm sure the investigators are watching that. I'm not sure it's attacted that much. I mean, they probably already had her in their sight. You know, her journey to do this kind of brings the next level evil to her. But I'm sure that, you know, once they saw the toxicology report, once they got those phone records back, which was all within six, eight, ten weeks of the event of the murder, they had her in their sites, and it was a matter of finding that drug dealer, getting a statement from them, and just tying everything together with the prosecutor and putting it all together. That her writing the book, I mean, I just I think that impacts her reputation in the community more than this actual case because everything was put together.

Well, that's going to hurt her a whole lot more than murdering her husband. Doctor Angey Arnold, will you help me out please, I mean, to murder your husband and then write a book about how much your children are suffering what they're going through. We had one child that I was already having nightmares, according to her. But doing that not just to your husband, but to your children and then trying to profit off of it.

Well, that's going to hurt her a whole lot more than murdering her husband. Doctor Angey Arnold, will you help me out please, I mean, to murder your husband and then write a book about how much your children are suffering what they're going through. We had one child that I was already having nightmares, according to her. But doing that not just to your husband, but to your children and then trying to profit off of it.

With a book, Nancy, I think it shows that she has a complete lack of attachment to her husband.

With a book, Nancy, I think it shows that she has a complete lack of attachment to her husband.

I certainly you're not about to say lots.

I certainly you're not about to say lots.

Of people do not develop attachment. There's something called attachment theory. Okay, So I believe that she lacks attachment to the people in her life, and that is what It doesn't mean you're insane, no, but she doesn't have any attachment. How do you kill your husband? So to me, that's the worst thing that she's done, so anything after that okay.

Of people do not develop attachment. There's something called attachment theory. Okay, So I believe that she lacks attachment to the people in her life, and that is what It doesn't mean you're insane, no, but she doesn't have any attachment. How do you kill your husband? So to me, that's the worst thing that she's done, so anything after that okay.

For me, Doctor Angie Arnold. She can take her lack of attachment capability and ride that broomstick straight to hell. We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye, friend,

For me, Doctor Angie Arnold. She can take her lack of attachment capability and ride that broomstick straight to hell. We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye, friend,