A military widow struggles with her husband’s death, a heartbroken Marine is forced to face his past, and an older widow secretly spreads wisdom while she still can. When the lives of these three broken souls converge, they finally find peace and love.

Today on Crime Stories, Nancy Grace speaks with the author and star of the new Fox Nation film, The Shell Collector. 

Along with Nancy Naigle and Caitlin Clark,  two military widows, Barb Allen and Taya Kyle discuss their own experiences in dealing with the loss of their husbands. 

Joining Nancy Grace today: 
Nancy Naigle - USA TODAY and ECPA Bestselling Author: "The Shell Collector, NancyNaigle.com, Instagram/Twitter: @nancynaigle 
Caitlin Clark - Actress, "The Shell Collector", Instagram: @Caitlin_M_Clark,  
Barb Allen - Wife of Lt. Louis Allen, killed in Iraq in 2005  Author/Speaker/Podcast Host: "Flex Your Freedom", Author: "What Not to Wear to a Murder Trial", "How to Woo a Widow" and "Front Toward Enemy" BarbAllenSpeaks.com, Instagram: @BarbAllenSpeaks
Taya Kyle - Wife of Navy SEAL Chris Kyle (killed in 2013, American Sniper - two children), Executive Director: Taya and Chris Kyle Foundation, Tackf.org, Author: "American Wife" & "American Spirit", Twitter/Instagram: @TayaKyle
Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist, CarynStark.com, Twitter: @carynpsych, Facebook: "Caryn Stark"  

A military widow struggles with her husband’s death, a heartbroken Marine is forced to face his past, and an older widow secretly spreads wisdom while she still can. When the lives of these three broken souls converge, they finally find peace and love.
Today on Crime Stories, Nancy Grace speaks with the author and star of the new Fox Nation film, The Shell Collector. 
Along with Nancy Naigle and Caitlin Clark,  two military widows, Barb Allen and Taya Kyle discuss their own experiences in dealing with the loss of their husbands. 
Joining Nancy Grace today: 
<ul>
<li>Nancy Naigle - USA TODAY and ECPA Bestselling Author: "The Shell Collector, NancyNaigle.com, Instagram/Twitter: @nancynaigle </li>
<li>Caitlin Clark - Actress, "The Shell Collector", Instagram: @Caitlin_M_Clark,  </li>
<li>Barb Allen - Wife of Lt. Louis Allen, killed in Iraq in 2005  Author/Speaker/Podcast Host: "Flex Your Freedom", Author: "What Not to Wear to a Murder Trial", "How to Woo a Widow" and "Front Toward Enemy" BarbAllenSpeaks.com, Instagram: @BarbAllenSpeaks</li>
<li>Taya Kyle - Wife of Navy SEAL Chris Kyle (killed in 2013, American Sniper - two children), Executive Director: Taya and Chris Kyle Foundation, Tackf.org, Author: "American Wife" &amp; "American Spirit", Twitter/Instagram: @TayaKyle</li>
<li>Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist, CarynStark.com, Twitter: @carynpsych, Facebook: "Caryn Stark"  </li>
</ul>

Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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THE  SHELL COLLECTOR: FINDING LOVE AFTER LOSS

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Here's Sydney Silvagni with some of our top stories this week. 

  

 

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Crime Alert Recap Saturday 06.26.26

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Convicted killer Alex Murdaugh, who's murder conviction has been overturned,  is suing former Colleton County Clerk of Court Becky Hill.  He alleging she violated his civil rights by tampering with the jury during his 2023 double-murder trial. Hill previously pleaded guilty to state charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, and misconduct in office. Comments Hill made to jurors was considered as improperly influencing the verdict.  

The complaint claims Hill wanted a guilty verdict to help sell her upcoming book about the trial.  Murdaugh's team is seeking more than $600,000 in compensatory damages—mostly tied to the costs of the original trial—along with punitive damages. His attorneys have stated that any recovered money will not go to Murdaugh personally, but is intended to hold Hill accountable.

Joining Nancy Grace Today:
Mark Peper  - Criminal defense attorney The Peper Law Firm, PeperLawFirm.com, Twitter: @PeperLawFirm
Chris Mcdonough - Director At the Cold Case Foundation, Former Homicide Detective, https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/chris-mcdonough---law-enforcement-relations.html, Host of YouTube channel, The Interview Room.
Dr. Kendal Crowns - Ft. Worth, TX Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth),  Podcast "Mayhem in the Morgue", Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)
GiGi McKelvey - Journalist, Host of the podcast “Pretty Lies And Alibis,” prettyliesandalibis.org , Facebook, IG, TikTok: @PrettyLies And Alibis, Twitter: @PrettyLiesAlibi
Blanca Turrubiate-Simpson -   Alex Murdaugh's former housekeeper 
Dave Mack- Crime Stories investigative reporter 

Convicted killer Alex Murdaugh, who's murder conviction has been overturned,&nbsp; is suing former Colleton County Clerk of Court Becky Hill.&nbsp; He alleging she violated his civil rights by tampering with the jury during his 2023 double-murder trial. Hill previously pleaded guilty to state charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, and misconduct in office. Comments Hill made to jurors was considered as improperly influencing the verdict.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Joining Nancy Grace Today:
<ul>
<li>Mark Peper&nbsp; -&nbsp;Criminal defense attorney The Peper Law Firm, PeperLawFirm.com, Twitter: @PeperLawFirm</li>
<li>Chris Mcdonough - Director At the Cold Case Foundation, Former Homicide Detective,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/chris-mcdonough---law-enforcement-relations.html" data-linkindex="1">https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/chris-mcdonough---law-enforcement-relations.html,</a> Host of YouTube channel, The Interview Room.</li>
<li>Dr. Kendal Crowns - Ft. Worth, TX&nbsp;Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth),&nbsp; Podcast "Mayhem in the Morgue", Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)</li>
<li>GiGi McKelvey - Journalist, Host of the podcast &ldquo;Pretty Lies And Alibis,&rdquo; prettyliesandalibis.org , Facebook, IG, TikTok: @PrettyLies And Alibis, Twitter: @PrettyLiesAlibi</li>
<li>Blanca Turrubiate-Simpson -&nbsp; &nbsp;Alex Murdaugh's former housekeeper&nbsp;</li>
<li>Dave Mack- Crime Stories investigative reporter&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

BIZARRE EXCUSE FROM CLERK WHO DESTROYED ALEX MURDAUGH'S MURDER CONVICTION 

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After more than 13 hours of deliberation, the jury foreman in Jonathan Rinderknech's arson trial tells the judge the jury was split,  10 in favor of not guilty, two in favor of guilty. 

In 2025, after dropping off an Uber passenger in Pacific Palisades, 29-year-old Jonathan Rinderknech parked his car, tries but failes to contact a former friend. He gets out of the car, walks up a nearby trail, takes iPhone videos, and listens to a rap song. Its music video includes objects being lit on fire.

Then, twelve minutes into the new year, a fire is started. With weak cell service, Rinderknecht walks back down the trail, continually calling 911 until he finally connects, only to find out other residents already reported the fire.  

As Rinderknecht drives away, he passes firefighters and turns back to watch them on the scene. He records while firefighters quickly extinguish the blaze, or so they thought.

The dense underbrush makes it difficult to see, and the roots underground continue to smolder. A week after the 911 calls reporting the Lachman fire, the Santa Ana Winds create an explosion of deadly fire, spreading the remains of the Lachman fire across LA, freshly named the Palisades fire.  

Investigators question Rinderknecht as he repeatedly called 911 about the January 1st fire.During those calls, Rinderknecht asked ChatGPT, "Are you at fault if a fire is lit because of your cigarettes?" 

Rinderknecht gives conflicting statements about whether he smoked near the trail that night and where he was when he called. Rinderknecht claims he was at the bottom of the trail, but location data shows while speaking with 911, he’s just 30 feet from the fire’s origin. 

Ultimately, Rinderknecht is charged.    U.S. District Judge Anne Hwang polled the jury panel, asking if more deliberations could thaw the deadlock. Each juror answered no. How will the judge rule? 

The Palisades fire killed 12 people, destroying more than 6,800 structures, both homes and businesses, and damaging over 1,000 more buildings.

Joining Nancy Grace today: 
Stephanie Lydecker - Executive Producer & Host of True Crime Tonight; Founder & CEO of KT-Studios.com   
Alexandra Pfeifer - Victim  
Dr. Bethany Marshall -  Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
Dina Doll - Attorney, Trial Consultant, Mediator & Legal Analyst, Doll Amir Eley, LLP
Moses Castillo - Private Investigator for the Dordulian Law Group, Former Supervisor Detective from The Los Angeles Police Department
Nicholle Brock -  Firefighter, EMT, and Arson Expert  
Dr. Kendall Crowns  -  Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth), Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)  
Shannon Butler - Investigative Reporter at WFTV Channel 9, Florida
Sydney Sumner - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'  

After more than 13 hours of deliberation, the jury foreman in Jonathan Rinderknech's arson trial tells the judge the jury was split,&nbsp; 10 in favor of not guilty, two in favor of guilty.&nbsp;
In 2025, after dropping off an Uber passenger in Pacific Palisades, 29-year-old Jonathan Rinderknech parked his car, tries but failes to contact a former friend. He gets out of the car, walks up a nearby trail, takes iPhone videos, and listens to a rap song. Its music video includes objects being lit on fire.
Then, twelve minutes into the new year, a fire is started. With weak cell service, Rinderknecht walks back down the trail, continually calling 911 until he finally connects, only to find out other residents already reported the fire. &nbsp;
As Rinderknecht drives away, he passes firefighters and turns back to watch them on the scene. He records while firefighters quickly extinguish the blaze, or so they thought.
The dense underbrush makes it difficult to see, and the roots underground continue to smolder. A week after the 911 calls reporting the Lachman fire, the Santa Ana Winds create an explosion of deadly fire, spreading the remains of the Lachman fire across LA, freshly named the Palisades fire.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Investigators question Rinderknecht as he repeatedly called 911 about the January 1st fire.During those calls, Rinderknecht asked ChatGPT, "Are you at fault if a fire is lit because of your cigarettes?"&nbsp;
Rinderknecht gives conflicting statements about whether he smoked near the trail that night and where he was when he called. Rinderknecht claims he was at the bottom of the trail, but location data shows while speaking with 911, he&rsquo;s just 30 feet from the fire&rsquo;s origin.&nbsp;
Ultimately, Rinderknecht is charged.&nbsp; &nbsp; U.S. District Judge Anne Hwang polled the jury panel, asking if more deliberations could thaw the deadlock. Each juror answered no. How will the judge rule?&nbsp;
The Palisades fire killed 12 people, destroying more than 6,800 structures, both homes and businesses, and damaging over 1,000 more buildings.
Joining Nancy Grace today:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Stephanie Lydecker - Executive Producer &amp; Host of True Crime Tonight; Founder &amp; CEO of KT-Studios.com &nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li>Alexandra Pfeifer - Victim&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.drbethanymarshall.com">Dr. Bethany Marshall</a> -&nbsp; Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram &amp; TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive</li>
<li><a href="http://www.dollamir.com">Dina Doll</a> - Attorney, Trial Consultant, Mediator &amp; Legal Analyst, Doll Amir Eley, LLP</li>
<li><a href="http://MosesCastilloInvestigations.com">Moses Castillo</a> - Private Investigator for the Dordulian Law Group, Former Supervisor Detective from The Los Angeles Police Department</li>
<li>Nicholle Brock -&nbsp; Firefighter, EMT, and Arson Expert &nbsp;</li>
<li>Dr. Kendall Crowns&nbsp; -&nbsp; Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth), Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li>Shannon Butler - Investigative Reporter at WFTV Channel 9, Florida</li>
<li>Sydney Sumner - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

BURN NOTICE: JURY HANGS IN DEADLY PACIFIC PALISADES FIRE, BODY COUNT 12

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THE SHELL COLLECTOR: FINDING LOVE AFTER LOSS

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