In Saratoga Springs, Utah, a 17-year-old girl returns home to find her mother, Jessica Lyman, and her 8-year-old brother, Eli Painter, shot in the head. While young Eli is pronounced dead at the scene, Jessica succumbs to her injuries three days later. A lengthy investigation leads to the arrest of Jessica's 16-year-old son, who currently faces murder charges in juvenile court in connection with the double shooting. Although the teen boy claimed he slept through the attack and subsequent emergency response, authorities uncovered a trail of disturbing evidence. Nancy Grace and her panel of experts break down what investigators found: hostile texts from the teen to his mother, gunshot residue on the clothes he wore that morning, and indoor home surveillance audio capturing three gunshots just minutes after a fierce argument between the mother and son.

Joining Nancy Grace Today: 
Skye Lazaro - (Salt Lake City, UT) Criminal defense attorney at Ray, Quinney & Nebeker, Facebook: SkyeBeth, Instagram: SkyeBeth1

Dr. Bethany Marshall - (Beverly Hills, CA) Psychoanalyst. See her in hit shows "Paris in Love" on Peacock and "The Valley, Persian Style" on Bravo.  You can also catch her on Netflix and Hulu as well. Host of new podcast, "On The Couch with Dr. Bethany Marshall," Instagram, Facebook, & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter:@DrBethanyLive
David Sarni - (Brooklyn, NY) Former NYPD Detective, 27 years at NYPD, Adjunct Professor John Jay College of Criminal Justice, Instagram: dsonthemedia, TikTok: DS08296, Facebook: David Sarni
Jeff Gentry - (Fresno, CA) Forensics-Certified Bloodstain Pattern Analyst, Senior Crime Scene Analyst and Death investigator, Former Toxicology Lab Analyst, Author: "Forensic Science: Applications to Death and Crime Scene Investigations" ; TikTok: @jeffreygentryBPA, FB: Jeff Gentry Bloodstain Pattern Analyst
Vanessa Walsh - (Denver, CO) Host of the podcast, Unmasked True Crime. Facebook and YouTube: UnmaskedTrueCrime, X: CrimeUnmasked
Dave Mack (AL) - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories' 

In Saratoga Springs, Utah, a 17-year-old girl returns home to find her mother, Jessica Lyman, and her 8-year-old brother, Eli Painter, shot in the head. While young Eli is pronounced dead at the scene, Jessica succumbs to her injuries three days later. A lengthy investigation leads to the arrest of Jessica's 16-year-old son, who currently faces murder charges in juvenile court in connection with the double shooting. Although the teen boy claimed he slept through the attack and subsequent emergency response, authorities uncovered a trail of disturbing evidence. Nancy Grace and her panel of experts break down what investigators found: hostile texts from the teen to his mother, gunshot residue on the clothes he wore that morning, and indoor home surveillance audio capturing three gunshots just minutes after a fierce argument between the mother and son.
Joining Nancy Grace Today:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.rqn.com">Skye Lazaro&nbsp;</a>- (Salt Lake City, UT) Criminal defense attorney at Ray, Quinney &amp; Nebeker, Facebook: SkyeBeth, Instagram: SkyeBeth1 </li>
<li><a href="https://www.drbethanymarshall.com">Dr. Bethany Marshall</a> - (Beverly Hills, CA) Psychoanalyst. See her in hit shows "Paris in Love" on Peacock and "The Valley, Persian Style" on Bravo. &nbsp;You can also catch her on Netflix and Hulu as well. Host of new podcast, "On The Couch with Dr. Bethany Marshall," Instagram, Facebook, &amp; TikTok: drbethanymarshall, <a href="mailto:Twitter:@DrBethanyLive">Twitter:@DrBethanyLive</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-sarni-ba002910a">David Sarni</a> - (Brooklyn, NY) Former NYPD Detective, 27 years at NYPD, Adjunct Professor John Jay College of Criminal Justice, Instagram: dsonthemedia, TikTok: DS08296, Facebook: David Sarni</li>
<li><a href="https://www.Evidenceoverassumption.com">Jeff Gentry</a> - (Fresno, CA) Forensics-Certified Bloodstain Pattern Analyst, Senior Crime Scene Analyst and Death investigator, Former Toxicology Lab Analyst, Author: "Forensic Science: Applications to Death and Crime Scene Investigations" ; TikTok: @jeffreygentryBPA, FB: Jeff Gentry Bloodstain Pattern Analyst</li>
<li>Vanessa Walsh - (Denver, CO) Host of the podcast, Unmasked True Crime. Facebook and YouTube: UnmaskedTrueCrime, X: CrimeUnmasked</li>
<li>Dave Mack (AL) - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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TEEN SON’S SICK OBSESSION W/ MOM: WHO MURDERED MOM JESSICA & ELI, 8?

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