The search for Nancy Guthrie continues on day four.

Police are still looking in a specific area surrounding the home, as cops say they have not identified a suspect. Three similar ransom notes have been delivered to news outlets.

Joining Nancy Grace today: 
Dr. Bethany Marshall -  Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
Brian Fitzgibbons -  Director of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security; Instagram: @uspa_nationwide_security
Jeffrey Gentry - Forensics-certified Bloodstain Pattern Analyst, Senior Crime Scene Analyst and Death Investigator, Former Toxicology Lab Analyst, and Author: "Forensic Science: Applications to Death and Crime Scene Investigations" ; "Bloodstain Pattern Analysis, and "Death Investigation: Information to Obtain During a Forensic Death Investigation;" TikTok: @jeffreygentryBPA, FB: Jeff Gentry Bloodstain Pattern Analyst 
Jessica Finn - Senior Investigative Reporter at The U.S. Sun; jessicafinnnyc (X/ IG) @jessicafinn.bsky.social 
Dave Mack -  Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'

The search for Nancy Guthrie continues on day four.
Police are still looking in a specific area surrounding the home, as cops say they have not identified a suspect. Three similar ransom notes have been delivered to news outlets.
Joining Nancy Grace today:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.drbethanymarshall.com">Dr. Bethany Marshall</a> -&nbsp; Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram &amp; TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive</li>
<li><a href="http://www.uspasecurity.com">Brian Fitzgibbons</a> -  Director of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security; Instagram: @uspa_nationwide_security</li>
<li>Jeffrey Gentry - Forensics-certified Bloodstain Pattern Analyst, Senior Crime Scene Analyst and Death Investigator, Former Toxicology Lab Analyst, and Author: "Forensic Science: Applications to Death and Crime Scene Investigations" ; "Bloodstain Pattern Analysis, and "Death Investigation: Information to Obtain During a Forensic Death Investigation;" TikTok: @jeffreygentryBPA, FB: Jeff Gentry Bloodstain Pattern Analyst&nbsp;</li>
<li><a href="http://the-sun.com">Jessica Finn</a> - Senior Investigative Reporter at The U.S. Sun; jessicafinnnyc (X/ IG) @jessicafinn.bsky.social&nbsp;</li>
<li>Dave Mack -&nbsp; Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'</li>
</ul>

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Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE MOM MISSING: DAY 4

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New reports say the FBI determined ransom notes related to Nancy Guthrie were fake.   TMZ's Harvey Levin pushed back on the claim, having received several of the notes. Less than 24 hours later, FBI bosses say they've not made a ruling either way.   Investigators continue to treat her disappearance as an active case, with DNA and video evidence still under forensic review.  Now, who to believe?

Joining  Nancy Grace today :

Caryn Stark- NY-  Forensic Psychologist, renowned TV and Radio trauma expert and consultant, www.carynstark.com, Instagram: carynpsych, FB: Caryn Stark Private Practice

Michael Harrigan  -   Fmr. FBI Agent for 22 years - Chief, Firearms Training Program at Quantico, VA. Led the FBI's Violent Criminal Apprehension Program (ViCAP),   Current principle with the Pax Group, LLC, a crisis management and risk assessment entity 

Brian Trascher  -  Vice President of the United Cajun Navy, https://unitedcajunnavy.org 

Dr. Jim Jones -  cyber security and digital forensics expert, digital forensics program director and associate professor, George Mason University

Dr. Kendall Crowns  -  Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth), Host of the Podcast "Mayhem in the Morgue", Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University) 

Sydney Silvagni -Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories' 

New reports say the FBI determined ransom notes related to Nancy Guthrie were fake.&nbsp;&nbsp; TMZ's Harvey Levin pushed back on the claim, having received several of the notes. Less than 24 hours later, FBI bosses say they've not made a ruling either way.&nbsp; &nbsp;Investigators continue to treat her disappearance as an active case, with DNA and video evidence still under forensic review.&nbsp; Now, who to believe?
Joining&nbsp; Nancy Grace today :
Caryn Stark- NY-&nbsp; Forensic Psychologist, renowned TV and Radio trauma expert and consultant,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.carynstark.com/" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="1">www.carynstark.com</a>, Instagram: carynpsych, FB: Caryn Stark Private Practice
Michael Harrigan&nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp;Fmr. FBI Agent for 22 years - Chief, Firearms Training Program at Quantico, VA. Led the FBI's Violent Criminal Apprehension Program (ViCAP),&nbsp; &nbsp;Current principle with the Pax Group, LLC, a crisis management and risk assessment entity&nbsp;
Brian Trascher&nbsp; -&nbsp; Vice President of the United Cajun Navy, <a href="https://unitedcajunnavy.org">https://unitedcajunnavy.org</a>&nbsp;
Dr. Jim Jones -&nbsp; cyber security and digital forensics expert, digital forensics program director and associate professor, George Mason University
Dr. Kendall Crowns&nbsp; -&nbsp; Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth), Host of the Podcast "Mayhem in the Morgue", Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)&nbsp;
Sydney Silvagni -Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'&nbsp;

NANCY GUTHRIE KIDNAP HOAX?

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Philadelphia police are hunting two 16-year-old boys accused of shooting a college student for his phone. Wisconsin man sentenced after years-long sexual abuse of an unconscious victim unearthed in online brag group. Texas woman tries to conceal murdered boyfriend's remains in concrete. Sydney Silvagni reports. 

Philadelphia police are hunting two 16-year-old boys accused of shooting a college student for his phone. Wisconsin man sentenced after years-long sexual abuse of an unconscious victim unearthed in online brag group. Texas woman tries to conceal murdered boyfriend's remains in concrete. Sydney Silvagni reports.&nbsp;

Arrest Warrants Issued for Two Teens in Penn State Student's Shooting | Crime Alert 07.02.26

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Mackenzie Shirilla is serving 15 years to life at the Ohio Reformatory for Women, convicted on 12 counts, including murder and aggravated vehicular homicide.  Police say Shirilla deliberately crashing her car into a brick building at 100 mph. Two passengers were killed, Shirilla's boyfriend, Dominic Russo, and their friend, Davion Flanagan. Data from the car's black box showed Shirilla floored the gas pedal and never used the brakes, making calculated steering and gear adjustments before impact.  She was 17 at the time. 

The Ohio Supreme Court has declined to review Mackenzie Shirilla’s post-conviction appeals, ruling the petition was filed late and the trial court lacked jurisdiction to excuse the delay. Shirilla’s lawyers, in court documents, said they requested the review due to a calendar mistake. They filed the appeal one day past the deadline.

Jailhouse recordings and prison records reveal demands the double killer is making behind bars  Recordings from her time at the Ohio Reformatory for Women exposed her begging for perks like an iPad, complaining about being bored, and scheming with her mother.  A prison document details 23 complaints and 36 violations against her, including flashing her breasts to visitors, possessing contraband like paints and monopoly money, and refusing job assignments.  

Shirilla will not be eligible for her first parole hearing until October 2037.   

Joining Nancy Grace today: 
Christine Russo  - Dominic Russo's older sister - Host, "The Big Sister: Unhinged Podcast,"  Instagram: @thebigsisterunhinged,  www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged
Shyann Topping - Mackenzie Shirilla's prison girlfriend in 2023  TikTok: shyanntoppingg 
Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst,  Host "On the Couch with Dr. Bethany," Author: "Deal Breaker,”  featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock, www.drbethanymarshall.com , Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive  
John Mobley  - Trial attorney, John Mobley Law Firm
Dr. Kendall Crowns  - TX Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth),  Podcast "Mayhem in the Morgue," Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)   
Joel Waldman  - Co-host of "Surviving the Survivor,"   Author of "Surviving the Survivor: A Brutally Honest Conversation about Life (& Death) with My Mom: A Holocaust Survivor, Therapist & My Podcast Co-Host", Co-Founder and Creative Director at Content Product Media 
Dave Mack -  Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'

Mackenzie Shirilla is serving 15 years to life at the Ohio Reformatory for Women, convicted on 12 counts, including murder and aggravated vehicular homicide.&nbsp; Police say Shirilla deliberately crashing her car into a brick building at 100 mph. Two passengers were killed, Shirilla's boyfriend, Dominic Russo, and their friend, Davion Flanagan. Data from the car's black box showed Shirilla floored the gas pedal and never used the brakes, making calculated steering and gear adjustments before impact.&nbsp; She was 17 at the time.&nbsp;
The Ohio Supreme Court has declined to review Mackenzie Shirilla&rsquo;s post-conviction appeals, ruling the petition was filed late and the trial court lacked jurisdiction to excuse the delay.&nbsp;Shirilla&rsquo;s lawyers, in court documents, said they requested the review due to a calendar mistake. They filed the appeal one day past the deadline.
Jailhouse recordings and prison records reveal demands the double killer is making behind bars&nbsp; Recordings from her time at the Ohio Reformatory for Women exposed her begging for perks like an iPad, complaining about being bored, and scheming with her mother.&nbsp; A prison document details 23 complaints and 36 violations against her, including flashing her breasts to visitors, possessing contraband like paints and monopoly money, and refusing job assignments.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Shirilla will not be eligible for her first parole hearing until October 2037.&nbsp; &nbsp;
Joining Nancy Grace today:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Christine Russo&nbsp; - Dominic Russo's older sister - Host, "The Big Sister: Unhinged Podcast,"&nbsp; Instagram: @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebigsisterunhinged/#" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="11">thebigsisterunhinged</a>,&nbsp; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="12">www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged</a></li>
<li>Shyann Topping - Mackenzie Shirilla's prison girlfriend in 2023&nbsp; TikTok: shyanntoppingg&nbsp;</li>
<li>Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, &nbsp;Host "On the Couch with Dr. Bethany," Author: "Deal Breaker,&rdquo;&nbsp; featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock, <a href="https://www.drbethanymarshall.com/" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="13" data-outlook-id="bfb7b2bf-9a2c-4f56-973d-6574757632da">www.drbethanymarshall.com</a> , Instagram &amp; TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive&nbsp;&nbsp; John Mobley&nbsp;&nbsp;- Trial&nbsp;attorney, <a href="https://johnmobley.com/">John Mobley Law Firm</a></li>
<li>Dr. Kendall Crowns&nbsp; - TX Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth),&nbsp; Podcast "Mayhem in the Morgue," Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)&nbsp; &nbsp; Joel Waldman&nbsp; - Co-host of "Surviving the Survivor,"&nbsp; &nbsp;Author of "Surviving the Survivor: A Brutally Honest Conversation about Life (&amp; Death) with My Mom: A Holocaust Survivor, Therapist &amp; My Podcast Co-Host", Co-Founder and Creative Director at Content Product Media&nbsp;</li>
<li>Dave Mack -&nbsp; Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'</li>
</ul>

Hell on Wheels” McKenzie Shirilla  Kills 2, Demands New Trial

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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE MOM MISSING: DAY 4

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