Two people are dead after an attempted robbery goes wrong. 37-year-old Joshua Ungersma makes a delivery to what is found to be an abandoned house where he meets 17-year-old Jaelynn Billups and her 19-year-old boyfriend Alberto Vanmeter.

Vanmeter is shot by Ungerma, who has a concealed carry permit, defending himself. The delivery driver reportedly crossed the street and asked witnesses to call the police. At that point, Billups allegedly shot him at point-blank range.

Joining Nancy Grace today:
Ashley Willcott - Judge and trial attorney, Anchor on Court TV, www.ashleywillcott.com 
Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Beverly Hills, ww.drbethanymarshall.com
Sheryl McCollum - Forensics Expert & Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder
Joe Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics Jacksonville State University, Author of"Blood Beneath My Feet" featured on "Poisonous Liaisons" on True Crime Network
Alexis Terezchuck - Crime Online Investigative Reporter  







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Two people are dead after an attempted robbery goes wrong. 37-year-old Joshua Ungersma makes a delivery to what is found to be an abandoned house where he meets 17-year-old Jaelynn Billups and her 19-year-old boyfriend Alberto Vanmeter.Vanmeter is shot by Ungerma, who has a concealed carry permit, defending himself. The delivery driver reportedly crossed the street and asked witnesses to call the police. At that point, Billups allegedly shot him at point-blank range.Joining Nancy Grace today:<ul>
<li>Ashley Willcott - Judge and trial attorney, Anchor on Court TV, www.ashleywillcott.com </li>
<li>Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Beverly Hills, ww.drbethanymarshall.com</li>
<li>Sheryl McCollum - Forensics Expert &amp; Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder</li>
<li>Joe Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics Jacksonville State University, Author of"Blood Beneath My Feet" featured on "Poisonous Liaisons" on True Crime Network</li>
<li>Alexis Terezchuck - Crime Online Investigative Reporter  </li>
</ul> 
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Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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Two people are dead after an attempted robbery goes wrong. 37-year-old Joshua Ungersma makes a delivery to what is found to be an abandoned house where he meets 17-year-old Jaelynn Billups and her 19-year-old boyfriend Alberto Vanmeter.

Vanmeter is shot by Ungerma, who has a concealed carry permit, defending himself. The delivery driver reportedly crossed the street and asked witnesses to call the police. At that point, Billups allegedly shot him at point-blank range.

Joining Nancy Grace today:Ashley Willcott - Judge and trial attorney, Anchor on Court TV, www.ashleywillcott.com Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, Beverly Hills, ww.drbethanymarshall.comSheryl McCollum - Forensics Expert &amp; Cold Case Investigative Research Institute FounderJoe Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics Jacksonville State University, Author of"Blood Beneath My Feet" featured on "Poisonous Liaisons" on True Crime NetworkAlexis Terezchuck - Crime Online Investigative Reporter

New dad working second job GUNNED DOWN BY HEARTLESS TEEN GIRL OVER PIZZA $ 

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Mackenzie Shirilla is serving 15 years to life at the Ohio Reformatory for Women. She was convicted on 12 counts, including murder and aggravated vehicular homicide, after deliberately crashing her car into a brick building at 100 mph. Two passengers were killed, Shirilla's boyfriend, Dominic Russo, and their friend, Davion Flanagan. Data from the car's black box showed Shirilla floored the gas pedal and never used the brakes, making calculated steering and gear adjustments before impact.  She was 17 at the time. 

The case has returned to national headlines due to the  release of the Netflix true-crime documentary series, The Crash.

Shirilla will not be eligible for her first parole hearing until October 2037. 

Joining Nancy Grace today:
Christine Russo  - Dominic Russo's older sister - Host, "The Big Sister: Unhinged Podcast,"  Instagram: @thebigsisterunhinged, www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged
Shyann Topping  - Mackenzie Shirilla's prison girlfriend in 2023 for about 8-9 months
Kat Crowder  - Former inmate who served time with Mackenzie Shirilla, TikTok: @boujeebehindbars Instagram: @boujeebehindbars 
Dr. Cheryl Arutt - Licensed Clinical and Forensic Psychologist specializing in Trauma Recovery, PTSD and EMDR Website: askdrcheryl.com Website: CreativeEMDR.comIG: @askdrcheryl  
Derek Smith -  Criminal Defense Attorney, website: dwsmithlegal.com  
Thomas Coyne  - Medical Examiner, University of Florida.  District Eight Medical Examiner, State of Florida. Toxicologist.  Forensic Pathologist and Neuropathologist.  
Joel Waldman - Co-host of "Surviving the Survivor,"   Co-Founder and Creative Director at Content Product Media 

Mackenzie Shirilla is serving 15 years to life at the Ohio Reformatory for Women. She was convicted on 12 counts, including murder and aggravated vehicular homicide, after deliberately crashing her car into a brick building at 100 mph. Two passengers were killed, Shirilla's boyfriend, Dominic Russo, and their friend, Davion Flanagan. Data from the car's black box showed Shirilla floored the gas pedal and never used the brakes, making calculated steering and gear adjustments before impact.&nbsp; She was 17 at the time.&nbsp;
The case has returned to national headlines due to the&nbsp; release of the Netflix true-crime documentary series, <em data-sfc-root="c" data-sfc-cb="" data-processed="true" data-complete="true" data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: &quot;Google Sans&quot;, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);">The Crash.
Shirilla will not be eligible for her first parole hearing until October 2037.&nbsp;
Joining Nancy Grace today:
<ul>
<li>Christine Russo&nbsp; - Dominic Russo's older sister - Host, "The Big Sister: Unhinged Podcast,"&nbsp; Instagram: @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebigsisterunhinged/#" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="7">thebigsisterunhinged</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged">www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged</a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="8"> </a></li>
<li>Shyann Topping&nbsp; - Mackenzie Shirilla's prison girlfriend in 2023 for about 8-9 months</li>
<li>Kat Crowder&nbsp; - Former inmate who served time with Mackenzie Shirilla, TikTok: @boujeebehindbars Instagram: @boujeebehindbars&nbsp;</li>
<li>Dr. Cheryl Arutt - Licensed Clinical and Forensic Psychologist specializing in Trauma Recovery, PTSD and EMDR&nbsp;Website: askdrcheryl.com Website: CreativeEMDR.comIG: @askdrcheryl&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li>Derek Smith -&nbsp; Criminal Defense Attorney, website: dwsmithlegal.com&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li>Thomas Coyne&nbsp; - Medical Examiner, University of Florida.&nbsp; District Eight Medical Examiner, State of Florida. Toxicologist.&nbsp; Forensic Pathologist and Neuropathologist.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li>Joel Waldman - Co-host of "Surviving the Survivor,"&nbsp; &nbsp;Co-Founder and Creative Director at Content Product Media&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

HELL ON WHEELS, MACKENZIE SHIRILLA KILLS 2 MEN DEMANDS KIM KARDASHIAN 

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Anna Kepner's step-brother to remain free while awaiting trial for her murder. Illinois teen behind bars for road-rage shooting targeting a family on their way home from a pre-natal check up. Former high school teacher previously arrested for allegedly having sex with a student on campus, now facing fresh charges including 5 additional victims. Sydney Silvagni reports. 

Anna Kepner's step-brother to remain free while awaiting trial for her murder. Illinois teen behind bars for road-rage shooting targeting a family on their way home from a pre-natal check up. Former high school teacher previously arrested for allegedly having sex with a student on campus, now facing fresh charges including 5 additional victims. Sydney Silvagni reports.&nbsp;

SHOCK RULING: Accused Carnival Cruise Killer to Remain Free Ahead of Murder Trial | Crime Alert 05.28.26

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Just after 7 p.m. on a September evening, Jacob and Mark Iskander, their siblings, and parents went for an evening stroll to a nearby lake. The six-member family was crossing in a crosswalk at a three-way intersection when mother Nancy heard a speeding car coming their way.

She says her husband and daughter were farther from the street. She tried to signal to two approaching SUVs to slow down. She managed to grab one of her children and dive out of the way, but Jacob and Mark were hit. Mark Iskander died at the scene, and Jacob died later at the hospital. According to police, Mark was thrown 254 feet.

Nancy Iskander told police that two SUVs were "zig-zagging with each other as if they were playing or racing." She said the drivers didn’t stop at the intersection, not even when the 11-year-old was on the hood of the car. Deputies reportedly caught up with a white Mercedes with significant front-end damage a third of a mile from the scene.

Behind the wheel was Rebecca Grossman. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department believes the vehicle was traveling over 80 miles an hour. Grossman’s breathalyzer test after the crash showed a blood alcohol content of 0.076%, according to local news reports.

The legal limit in California is 0.08%. A blood sample taken three hours after the crash registered at 0.08%

Grossman was convicted and sentenced to 15 years to life in state prison. She is facing a wrongful death civil suit, now in it's sixth week. 

 Joining Nancy Grace Today:
Matthew Mangino – Attorney, Former District Attorney (Lawrence County); Author: “The Executioner’s Toll: The Crimes, Arrests, Trials, Appeals, Last Meals, Final Words and Executions of 46 Persons in the United States;” X: @MatthewTMangino
Caryn L. Stark – Psychologist, Renowned TV and Radio Trauma Expert and Consultant; Instagram: carynpsych/FB: Caryn Stark Private PracticeRobert Crispin – Private Investigator, Former Federal Task Force Officer for United States Department of Justice, DEA and Miami Field Division, Former Homicide and Crimes Against Children Investigator, “Crispin Special Investigations” CrispinInvestigations.com, Facebook: Crispin Special Investigations, Inc
JoScott Morgan – Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, “Blood Beneath My Feet,” and Host: “Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan;” X: @JoScottForensic
Joseph Tremblay – Senior Forensic Engineer and Accident Reconstructionist, Veritech Consulting Engineering
Stacey D. Stewart – CEO of Mother Against Drunk Driving (MADD); Twitter: @maddnational
Eamon Murphy – Writer for ‘The Acorn’ Newspaper in California; X: @EamonPMurphy 

Just after 7 p.m. on a September evening, Jacob and Mark Iskander, their siblings, and parents went for an evening stroll to a nearby lake. The six-member family was crossing in a crosswalk at a three-way intersection when mother Nancy heard a speeding car coming their way.
She says her husband and daughter were farther from the street. She tried to signal to two approaching SUVs to slow down. She managed to grab one of her children and dive out of the way, but Jacob and Mark were hit. Mark Iskander died at the scene, and Jacob died later at the hospital. According to police, Mark was thrown 254 feet.
Nancy Iskander told police that two SUVs were "zig-zagging with each other as if they were playing or racing." She said the drivers didn&rsquo;t stop at the intersection, not even when the 11-year-old was on the hood of the car. Deputies reportedly caught up with a white Mercedes with significant front-end damage a third of a mile from the scene.
Behind the wheel was Rebecca Grossman. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department believes the vehicle was traveling over 80 miles an hour. Grossman&rsquo;s breathalyzer test after the crash showed a blood alcohol content of 0.076%, according to local news reports.
The legal limit in California is 0.08%. A blood sample taken three hours after the crash registered at 0.08%
Grossman was convicted and sentenced to 15 years to life in state prison. She is facing a wrongful death civil suit, now in it's sixth week.&nbsp;
&nbsp;Joining Nancy Grace Today:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://matthewmangino.com/" aria-label="Matthew Mangino&nbsp; (opens in a new tab)">Matthew Mangino&nbsp;</a>&ndash; Attorney, Former District Attorney (Lawrence County); Author: &ldquo;The Executioner&rsquo;s Toll: The Crimes, Arrests, Trials, Appeals, Last Meals, Final Words and Executions of 46 Persons in the United States;&rdquo; X: @MatthewTMangino</li>
<li><a href="http://www.carynstark.com/" aria-label="Caryn L. Stark (opens in a new tab)">Caryn L. Stark</a> &ndash; Psychologist, Renowned TV and Radio Trauma Expert and Consultant; Instagram: carynpsych/FB: Caryn Stark Private PracticeRobert Crispin &ndash; Private Investigator, Former Federal Task Force Officer for United States Department of Justice, DEA and Miami Field Division, Former Homicide and Crimes Against Children Investigator, &ldquo;Crispin Special Investigations&rdquo; CrispinInvestigations.com, Facebook: Crispin Special Investigations, Inc</li>
<li>JoScott Morgan &ndash; Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, &ldquo;Blood Beneath My Feet,&rdquo; and Host: &ldquo;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/body-bags-with-joseph-scott-morgan/id1587763116">Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan</a>;&rdquo; X: @JoScottForensic</li>
<li>Joseph Tremblay &ndash; Senior Forensic Engineer and Accident Reconstructionist, Veritech Consulting Engineering</li>
<li><a href="http://madd.org">Stacey D. Stewart</a> &ndash; CEO of Mother Against Drunk Driving (MADD); Twitter: @maddnational</li>
<li><a href="http://www.theacorn.com,">Eamon Murphy </a>&ndash; Writer for &lsquo;The Acorn&rsquo; Newspaper in California; X: @EamonPMurphy&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

Socialite Rebecca Grossman Writes Disgusting Letter From Prison to Mom of 2 Boys She Killed, Claiming She's The Victim, Civil Lawsuit

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New dad working second job GUNNED DOWN BY HEARTLESS TEEN GIRL OVER PIZZA $

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