The man who killed 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German on a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, in February 2017 is still unknown and free despite a grainy photo of him. Nancy Grace talked to Libby’s grandparents, Mike and Becky Patty, and Abby’s mother Anna Williams in this episode recorded live at CrimeCon. They are joined by forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan, Private Investigator Vincent Hill, Juvenile Judge & Lawyer Ashley Willcott, and lawyer Renee Rockwell.

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The man who killed 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German on a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, in February 2017 is still unknown and free despite a grainy photo of him. Nancy Grace talked to Libby’s grandparents, Mike and Becky Patty, and Abby’s mother Anna Williams in this episode recorded live at CrimeCon. They are joined by forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan, Private Investigator Vincent Hill, Juvenile Judge &amp; Lawyer Ashley Willcott, and lawyer Renee Rockwell.
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Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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The man who killed 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German on a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, in February 2017 is still unknown and free despite a grainy photo of him. Nancy Grace talked to Libby’s grandparents, Mike and Becky Patty, and Abby’s mother Anna Williams in this episode recorded live at CrimeCon. They are joined by forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan, Private Investigator Vincent Hill, Juvenile Judge &amp; Lawyer Ashley Willcott, and lawyer Renee Rockwell.

Live from CrimeCon: Little Abby & Libby's  families beg for your help after girls' murders at Delphi Bridge

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Two young boys recovered in Mexico after their father abandoned Utah home and violated custody agreement. Family grieving Chicago Honor Roll soccer captain shot dead on daily commute to school. Illinois three-decade cold-case finally solved, Randy Gail Sperino's killer behind bars. Sydney Silvagni reports. 

Two young boys recovered in Mexico after their father abandoned Utah home and violated custody agreement. <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/apoyo-para-la-familia-de-pedrito">Family grieving</a> Chicago Honor Roll soccer captain shot dead on daily commute to school. Illinois three-decade cold-case finally solved, Randy Gail Sperino's killer behind bars. Sydney Silvagni reports.&nbsp;

Missing Toddlers Recovered in Mexico After Harrowing Week with 'Severely Depressed' Father | Crime Alert 05.29.26

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Mackenzie Shirilla is serving 15 years to life at the Ohio Reformatory for Women. She was convicted on 12 counts, including murder and aggravated vehicular homicide, after deliberately crashing her car into a brick building at 100 mph. Two passengers were killed, Shirilla's boyfriend, Dominic Russo, and their friend, Davion Flanagan. Data from the car's black box showed Shirilla floored the gas pedal and never used the brakes, making calculated steering and gear adjustments before impact.  She was 17 at the time. 

The case has returned to national headlines due to the  release of the Netflix true-crime documentary series, The Crash.

Shirilla will not be eligible for her first parole hearing until October 2037. 

Joining Nancy Grace today:
Christine Russo  - Dominic Russo's older sister - Host, "The Big Sister: Unhinged Podcast,"  Instagram: @thebigsisterunhinged, www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged
Shyann Topping  - Mackenzie Shirilla's prison girlfriend in 2023 for about 8-9 months
Kat Crowder  - Former inmate who served time with Mackenzie Shirilla, TikTok: @boujeebehindbars Instagram: @boujeebehindbars 
Dr. Cheryl Arutt - Licensed Clinical and Forensic Psychologist specializing in Trauma Recovery, PTSD and EMDR Website: askdrcheryl.com Website: CreativeEMDR.comIG: @askdrcheryl  
Derek Smith -  Criminal Defense Attorney, website: dwsmithlegal.com  
Thomas Coyne  - Medical Examiner, University of Florida.  District Eight Medical Examiner, State of Florida. Toxicologist.  Forensic Pathologist and Neuropathologist.  
Joel Waldman - Co-host of "Surviving the Survivor,"   Co-Founder and Creative Director at Content Product Media 

Mackenzie Shirilla is serving 15 years to life at the Ohio Reformatory for Women. She was convicted on 12 counts, including murder and aggravated vehicular homicide, after deliberately crashing her car into a brick building at 100 mph. Two passengers were killed, Shirilla's boyfriend, Dominic Russo, and their friend, Davion Flanagan. Data from the car's black box showed Shirilla floored the gas pedal and never used the brakes, making calculated steering and gear adjustments before impact.&nbsp; She was 17 at the time.&nbsp;
The case has returned to national headlines due to the&nbsp; release of the Netflix true-crime documentary series, <em data-sfc-root="c" data-sfc-cb="" data-processed="true" data-complete="true" data-copy-service-computed-style="font-family: &quot;Google Sans&quot;, Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);">The Crash.
Shirilla will not be eligible for her first parole hearing until October 2037.&nbsp;
Joining Nancy Grace today:
<ul>
<li>Christine Russo&nbsp; - Dominic Russo's older sister - Host, "The Big Sister: Unhinged Podcast,"&nbsp; Instagram: @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebigsisterunhinged/#" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="7">thebigsisterunhinged</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged">www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged</a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="8"> </a></li>
<li>Shyann Topping&nbsp; - Mackenzie Shirilla's prison girlfriend in 2023 for about 8-9 months</li>
<li>Kat Crowder&nbsp; - Former inmate who served time with Mackenzie Shirilla, TikTok: @boujeebehindbars Instagram: @boujeebehindbars&nbsp;</li>
<li>Dr. Cheryl Arutt - Licensed Clinical and Forensic Psychologist specializing in Trauma Recovery, PTSD and EMDR&nbsp;Website: askdrcheryl.com Website: CreativeEMDR.comIG: @askdrcheryl&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li>Derek Smith -&nbsp; Criminal Defense Attorney, website: dwsmithlegal.com&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li>Thomas Coyne&nbsp; - Medical Examiner, University of Florida.&nbsp; District Eight Medical Examiner, State of Florida. Toxicologist.&nbsp; Forensic Pathologist and Neuropathologist.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li>Joel Waldman - Co-host of "Surviving the Survivor,"&nbsp; &nbsp;Co-Founder and Creative Director at Content Product Media&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

HELL ON WHEELS, MACKENZIE SHIRILLA KILLS 2 MEN DEMANDS KIM KARDASHIAN 

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Anna Kepner's step-brother to remain free while awaiting trial for her murder. Illinois teen behind bars for road-rage shooting targeting a family on their way home from a pre-natal check up. Former high school teacher previously arrested for allegedly having sex with a student on campus, now facing fresh charges including 5 additional victims. Sydney Silvagni reports. 

Anna Kepner's step-brother to remain free while awaiting trial for her murder. Illinois teen behind bars for road-rage shooting targeting a family on their way home from a pre-natal check up. Former high school teacher previously arrested for allegedly having sex with a student on campus, now facing fresh charges including 5 additional victims. Sydney Silvagni reports.&nbsp;

SHOCK RULING: Accused Carnival Cruise Killer to Remain Free Ahead of Murder Trial | Crime Alert 05.28.26

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Live from CrimeCon: Little Abby & Libby's families beg for your help after girls' murders at Delphi Bridge

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