Teen best friends, Abby Williams and Libby German killed while out walking trails in broad daylight in Delphi, Indiana.  One of the girls snaps a cell phone photo of the suspect, who has never been caught.  Two years later, the families are still searching for answers in this mystery which has gripped the nation.

The girls grandparents, Mike Patty, and Eric Erskin, discuss the latest breaking clues in the case

Distinguished scholar of applied forensics, Jacksonville State University, Joe Scott Morgan, and crimeonline.com Investigative Reporter, Leigh Egan, also join the panel.

Nancy takes questions from a live audience







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Teen best friends, Abby Williams and Libby German killed while out walking trails in broad daylight in Delphi, Indiana. One of the girls snaps a cell phone photo of the suspect, who has never been caught. Two years later, the families are still searching for answers in this mystery which has gripped the nation.The girls grandparents, Mike Patty, and Eric Erskin, discuss the latest breaking clues in the caseDistinguished scholar of applied forensics, Jacksonville State University, Joe Scott Morgan, and crimeonline.com Investigative Reporter, Leigh Egan, also join the panel.Nancy takes questions from a live audience 
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Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Nancy Grace dives deep into the day’s most shocking crimes and asks the tough questions in her new daily podcast – Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor and used her TV show to find missing people, fugitives on the run and unseen clues. Now, she will use the power of her huge social media following and the immediacy of the internet to deliver daily bombshells!

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Teen best friends, Abby Williams and Libby German killed while out walking trails in broad daylight in Delphi, Indiana.  One of the girls snaps a cell phone photo of the suspect, who has never been caught.  Two years later, the families are still searching for answers in this mystery which has gripped the nation.

The girls grandparents, Mike Patty, and Eric Erskin, discuss the latest breaking clues in the case

Distinguished scholar of applied forensics, Jacksonville State University, Joe Scott Morgan, and crimeonline.com Investigative Reporter, Leigh Egan, also join the panel.

Nancy takes questions from a live audience

LIVE FROM CRIME CON: 2 girls murdered at local Delphi bridge, families search for answers

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While executing an unrelated search warrant, law enforcement discovered 16 children in an isolated Ohio home, ranging in age from 18-month-old twins to an 18-year-old. Parents Gary Siders Jr. and Elizabeth Siders face neglect allegations, while Gary Jr. has also been charged with misdemeanor counts of public indecency. All 16 children were taken to the hospital for evaluation after being removed from the home, with several requiring additional treatment.

In this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum talks with Law&Crime correspondent Angenette Levy about the case. Angenette describes the deplorable living conditions inside the home, what school and truancy records reveal about the children’s years away from the classroom, and the medical treatment some required after being removed from the home. She and Sheryl also look at how an entire family could seemingly disappear from public view and what is known about how the household was being supported financially. Angenette closes the episode with a remarkable story of the day she was assigned to cover an active Amber Alert and ended up finding the missing toddler at the center of it.



Highlights:

(0:00) Sheryl introduces Angenette Levy and explains why she turned to her for the latest on the Ohio case

(3:00) Authorities execute a sealed search warrant and unexpectedly find 16 children inside the Ohio home

(5:30) What is known about the public indecency charges against Gary Siders Jr. and what remains unclear

(8:30) School and truancy records raise questions about the children’s years away from the classroom

(12:30) A neighbor recalls seeing children run toward the house and later came to believe the property was vacant

(15:00) Reports about the conditions inside the home

(17:15) Angenette looks at public benefits, a local diaper bank, and questions how the household was being supported

(20:00) The role schools and mandated reporters can play in identifying children at risk

(22:45) The children’s medical treatment after being removed from the home

(26:00) Angenette shares how she found a missing toddler while covering an Amber Alert

(33:00) Where the children are now and the additional support provided through therapeutic foster care



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Angenette Levy is a correspondent and host with Law&Crime Network. She has covered major trials, including Steven Avery, Kyle Rittenhouse, and Derek Chauvin, and was Emmy-nominated in 2015 for a story in which she helped find a missing toddler during an active Amber Alert.



Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an active crime scene investigator for a metro Atlanta police department and the director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, which partners with colleges and universities nationwide. With more than four decades of experience, she has worked on thousands of cold cases using her investigative system, The Last 24/361, which integrates evidence, media, and advanced forensic testing.

Her work on high-profile cases, including The Boston Strangler, Natalie Holloway, Tupac Shakur and the Moore’s Ford Bridge lynching, led to her Emmy Award for CSI: Atlanta and induction into the National Law Enforcement Hall of Fame in 2023.



Social Links:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Instagram:@officialzone7podcast

TikTok: @Sheryl.McCollum



Sheryl’s new book, Swans Don’t Swim in a Sewer: Solving the Cold Case of the Flint

River Killer’s Daughter, is available now wherever books are sold.

While executing an unrelated search warrant, law enforcement discovered 16 children in an&nbsp;isolated Ohio home, ranging in age from 18-month-old twins to an 18-year-old. Parents Gary&nbsp;Siders Jr. and Elizabeth Siders face neglect allegations, while Gary Jr. has also been charged&nbsp;with misdemeanor counts of public indecency. All 16 children were taken to the hospital for&nbsp;evaluation after being removed from the home, with several requiring additional treatment.
In this episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum talks with Law&amp;Crime correspondent Angenette&nbsp;Levy about the case. Angenette describes the deplorable living conditions inside the home,&nbsp;what school and truancy records reveal about the children&rsquo;s years away from the classroom,&nbsp;and the medical treatment some required after being removed from the home. She and Sheryl&nbsp;also look at how an entire family could seemingly disappear from public view and what is known&nbsp;about how the household was being supported financially. Angenette closes the episode with a&nbsp;remarkable story of the day she was assigned to cover an active Amber Alert and ended up&nbsp;finding the missing toddler at the center of it. 
Highlights:
(0:00) Sheryl introduces Angenette Levy and explains why she turned to her for the&nbsp;latest on the Ohio case
(3:00) Authorities execute a sealed search warrant and unexpectedly find 16 children&nbsp;inside the Ohio home
(5:30) What is known about the public indecency charges against Gary Siders Jr. and&nbsp;what remains unclear
(8:30) School and truancy records raise questions about the children&rsquo;s years away from&nbsp;the classroom
(12:30) A neighbor recalls seeing children run toward the house and later came to&nbsp;believe the property was vacant
(15:00) Reports about the conditions inside the home
(17:15) Angenette looks at public benefits, a local diaper bank, and questions how the&nbsp;household was being supported
(20:00) The role schools and mandated reporters can play in identifying children at risk
(22:45) The children&rsquo;s medical treatment after being removed from the home
(26:00) Angenette shares how she found a missing toddler while covering an Amber&nbsp;Alert
(33:00) Where the children are now and the additional support provided through&nbsp;therapeutic foster care 
Enjoying Zone 7? Leave a rating and review where you listen to podcasts. Your feedback helps&nbsp;others find the show and supports the mission to educate, engage, and inspire.
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Angenette Levy is a correspondent and host with Law&amp;Crime Network. She has covered major&nbsp;trials, including Steven Avery, Kyle Rittenhouse, and Derek Chauvin, and was Emmy-nominated&nbsp;in 2015 for a story in which she helped find a missing toddler during an active Amber Alert. 
Sheryl &ldquo;Mac&rdquo; McCollum is an active crime scene investigator for a metro Atlanta police&nbsp;department and the director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, which partners&nbsp;with colleges and universities nationwide. With more than four decades of experience, she has&nbsp;worked on thousands of cold cases using her investigative system, The Last 24/361, which&nbsp;integrates evidence, media, and advanced forensic testing.
Her work on high-profile cases, including The Boston Strangler, Natalie Holloway, Tupac Shakur&nbsp;and the Moore&rsquo;s Ford Bridge lynching, led to her Emmy Award for CSI: Atlanta and induction&nbsp;into the National Law Enforcement Hall of Fame in 2023. 
Social Links:
Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
X: @ColdCaseTips
Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum
Instagram: @officialzone7podcast
TikTok: @Sheryl.McCollum 
Sheryl&rsquo;s new book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Swans-Dont-Swim-Sewer-Daughter/dp/B0FWZY5YFP">Swans Don&rsquo;t Swim in a Sewer: Solving the Cold Case of the Flint</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Swans-Dont-Swim-Sewer-Daughter/dp/B0FWZY5YFP">River Killer&rsquo;s Daughter</a>, is available now wherever books are sold.

Zone 7: The Search Warrant That Led Investigators to 16 Children _ Angenette Levy

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An undocumented immigrant from Guatemala is behind bars in New Jersey after allegedly breaking into a home, kidnapping a six-year-old girl in the middle of the night, and sexually assaulting her. In Alabama, a Homeland Security Investigations special agent tasked with investigating child exploitation has been indicted on charges including rape, sodomy, and incest involving a female minor. Newly released bodycam footage out of Daytona Beach, Florida shows a woman accused of smashing her SUV into a parked car pleading with officers to avoid arrest for DUI and battery. Sydney Silvagni reports. 

An undocumented immigrant from Guatemala is behind bars in New Jersey after allegedly breaking into a home, kidnapping a six-year-old girl in the middle of the night, and sexually assaulting her. In Alabama, a Homeland Security Investigations special agent tasked with investigating child exploitation has been indicted on charges including rape, sodomy, and incest involving a female minor. Newly released bodycam footage out of Daytona Beach, Florida shows a woman accused of smashing her SUV into a parked car pleading with officers to avoid arrest for DUI and battery. Sydney Silvagni reports.&nbsp;

Guatemalan National Arrested in Kidnapping and Sex Assault of 6-Year-Old NJ Girl | Crime Alert 09.12.26

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When Mica Miller's body was discovered submerged in Lumber River State Park alongside a gun case and receipt found inside her vehicle, friends and family members immediately questioned local findings that Mica took her own life. Nancy Grace and her expert panel, including Mica's former attorney, Regina Ward, dissect widespread doubts surrounding her death, questioning whether state authorities moved too quickly to dismiss foul play or if Pastor John Paul Miller drove his estranged wife to take her own life. Evidence documents ongoing domestic abuse and coercive control in the Millers' marriage, and a video of a dramatic face-down lawn tantrum shows Miller's true colors as his federal court date approaches. 

A federal indictment against Pastor John Paul Miller includes felony cyberstalking charges for allegedly subjecting Mica to relentless harassment. Federal prosecutors detail how Miller tracked her vehicle, deflated her tires using specialized tools, interfered with her daily finances, lied to law enforcement, and posted a nude photograph of her online without her consent. Currently walking free on bond under ankle-monitor surveillance while Solid Rock Church is emptied, Miller maintains his innocence despite mounting public outrage, erratic behavior, and reports of dating again shortly after Mica's death. Anyone with information regarding the ongoing federal case against John Paul Miller is urged to contact investigators at (803) 551-4200.

Joining Nancy Grace Today: 
Regina Ward - (Myrtle Beach, SC) Attorney for Mica Miller; Criminal Defense Attorney / Law Firm of Regina B. Ward
Dr. Bethany Marshall - (Beverly Hills, CA) Psychoanalyst. See her in hit shows Paris in Love on Peacock and The Valley, Persian Style on Bravo. You can also catch her on Netflix and Hulu. Host of new podcast, "On The Couch with Dr. Bethany Marshall," Instagram, Facebook, & TikTok: @DrBethanyMarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive
Claudia King- (Durham, NC) Former Law Enforcement Officer, Domestic Violence Expert; Host of two Podcasts "No Contest" and "Strong Enough," , @realclaudiaking
Barry Hutchinson - (Kansas City, MO) Former 26-year law enforcement veteran and detective, now owner & Chief Investigator for Barry & Associates Investigative Services
Jennifer Wood - (SC) Director of research at FITSNews.comin South Carolina, Twitter: @IndyJenn_
Lauren Colin - (New York) Reporter, Los Angeles Magazine - Podcaster/Reporter/Host- Co-Host of "PopCrimeTV" on YouTube, Website:  and primetimecrimeshow.com,  X- @Conlin_Lauren, Instagram: @LaurenEmilyConlin, YouTube: @PopCrimeTV
Alexis Terezcuk -(Los Angeles, CA) Crime Stories investigative reporter
Dave Mack - (AL) Crime Stories investigative reporter
Sydney Sumner - (TX) Crime Stories investigative reporter

When Mica Miller's body was discovered submerged in Lumber River State Park alongside a gun case and receipt found inside her vehicle, friends and family members immediately questioned local findings that Mica took her own life. Nancy Grace and her expert panel, including Mica's former attorney, Regina Ward, dissect widespread doubts surrounding her death, questioning whether state authorities moved too quickly to dismiss foul play or if Pastor John Paul Miller drove his estranged wife to take her own life. Evidence documents ongoing domestic abuse and coercive control in the Millers' marriage, and a video of a dramatic face-down lawn tantrum shows Miller's true colors as his federal court date approaches. 
A federal indictment against Pastor John Paul Miller includes felony cyberstalking charges for allegedly subjecting Mica to relentless harassment. Federal prosecutors detail how Miller tracked her vehicle, deflated her tires using specialized tools, interfered with her daily finances, lied to law enforcement, and posted a nude photograph of her online without her consent. Currently walking free on bond under ankle-monitor surveillance while Solid Rock Church is emptied, Miller maintains his innocence despite mounting public outrage, erratic behavior, and reports of dating again shortly after Mica's death. Anyone with information regarding the ongoing federal case against John Paul Miller is urged to contact investigators at (803) 551-4200.
Joining Nancy Grace Today:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.attorneyreginaward.com">Regina Ward</a> - (Myrtle Beach, SC) Attorney for Mica Miller; Criminal Defense Attorney / Law Firm of Regina B. Ward</li>
<li>Dr. Bethany Marshall - (Beverly Hills, CA) Psychoanalyst. See her in hit shows Paris in Love on Peacock and The Valley, Persian Style on Bravo. You can also catch her on Netflix and Hulu. Host of new podcast, "On The Couch with Dr. Bethany Marshall," Instagram, Facebook, &amp; TikTok: @DrBethanyMarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive</li>
<li><a href="https://www.claudiamking.com">Claudia King</a> - (Durham, NC) Former Law Enforcement Officer, Domestic Violence Expert; Host of two Podcasts "No Contest" and "Strong Enough," , @realclaudiaking</li>
<li>Barry Hutchinson - (Kansas City, MO) Former 26-year law enforcement veteran and detective, now owner &amp; Chief Investigator for Barry &amp; Associates Investigative Services</li>
<li>Jennifer Wood - (SC) Director of research at FITSNews.comin South Carolina, Twitter: @IndyJenn_</li>
<li><a href="https://www.popcrime.tv">Lauren Colin</a> - (New York) Reporter, Los Angeles Magazine - Podcaster/Reporter/Host- Co-Host of "PopCrimeTV" on YouTube, Website: &nbsp;and&nbsp;primetimecrimeshow.com,&nbsp;&nbsp;X- @Conlin_Lauren, Instagram: @LaurenEmilyConlin, YouTube: @PopCrimeTV</li>
<li>Alexis Terezcuk - (Los Angeles, CA) Crime Stories investigative reporter</li>
<li>Dave Mack - (AL) Crime Stories investigative reporter</li>
<li>Sydney Sumner - (TX) Crime Stories investigative reporter</li>
</ul>

KEY WITNESS IN PASTOR’S WIFE MICA MILLER CASE DEAD

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