Five-year-old Ann Pham is the youngest of 10 children, but her family felt her so responsible that the parents allowed the girl to walk the few blocks to her kindergarten class alone. 

Pham never made it. She had been suffocated, sexually assaulted, and her body discarded.  according to police.

Now, thanks to new DNA technology, Robert John Lanoue, 70, a former Fort Ord soldier, is charged with one count of first-degree murder, with special circumstances.  

Joining Nancy Grace Today:
Dr. Ed Green - Founder: Astrea Forensics, Professor of Biomolecular Engineering, University of California, Santa Cruz, AstreaForensics.com
Darryl Cohen - Former Assistant District Attorney, Fulton County, Georgia, Defense Attorney, Cohen, Cooper, Estep, & Allen, LLC, CCEAlaw.com
Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist, CarynStark.com, Twitter: @carynpsych, Facebook: "Caryn Stark" 
Sheryl McCollum - Forensic Expert, Founder: Cold Case Investigative Research Institute in Atlanta, GA, ColdCaseCrimes.org, @ColdCaseTips 
Dr. Michelle DuPre - Former Forensic Pathologist, Medical Examiner and Detective: Lexington County Sheriff's Department, Author: "Homicide Investigation Field Guide" & "Investigating Child Abuse Field Guide", Forensic Consultant, DMichelleDupreMD.com 
Scott Rates - News Director/Anchor KION 46, Facebook.com/RealScottRates, Twitter: @RealScottRates,, Instagram: @real.news.rates 

Five-year-old Ann Pham is the youngest of 10 children, but her family felt her so responsible that the parents allowed the girl to walk the few blocks to her kindergarten class alone. 
Pham never made it. She had been suffocated, sexually assaulted, and her body discarded.  according to police.
Now, thanks to new DNA technology, Robert John Lanoue, 70, a former Fort Ord soldier, is charged with one count of first-degree murder, with special circumstances.  
Joining Nancy Grace Today:
<ul>
<li>Dr. Ed Green - Founder: Astrea Forensics, Professor of Biomolecular Engineering, University of California, Santa Cruz, AstreaForensics.com</li>
<li>Darryl Cohen - Former Assistant District Attorney, Fulton County, Georgia, Defense Attorney, Cohen, Cooper, Estep, &amp; Allen, LLC, CCEAlaw.com</li>
<li>Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist, CarynStark.com, Twitter: @carynpsych, Facebook: "Caryn Stark" </li>
<li>Sheryl McCollum - Forensic Expert, Founder: Cold Case Investigative Research Institute in Atlanta, GA, ColdCaseCrimes.org, @ColdCaseTips </li>
<li>Dr. Michelle DuPre - Former Forensic Pathologist, Medical Examiner and Detective: Lexington County Sheriff's Department, Author: "Homicide Investigation Field Guide" &amp; "Investigating Child Abuse Field Guide", Forensic Consultant, DMichelleDupreMD.com </li>
<li>Scott Rates - News Director/Anchor KION 46, Facebook.com/RealScottRates, Twitter: @RealScottRates,, Instagram: @real.news.rates </li>
</ul>

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GIRL, 5, WALKS ALONE TO SCHOOL, MURDERED

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Richard Allen,  convicted in the 2017 murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German in Delphi, Indiana, has filed an appeal to overturn his conviction. Oral arguments will be heard September 21, 2026.   

The jury took two minutes from entering the courtroom to announce the verdict: Richard Allen, guilty on all charges.

Allen was convicted of felony murder for Abby Williams and Libby German, as well as for knowingly and intentionally killing both girls. Judge Gull maintained order in the courtroom, where there were no outbursts, but outside on the streets of Delphi, shouts of "Guilty on all charges" echoed.

 The jury, composed of seven women and five men, heard 17 days of testimony, including dozens of witnesses, disturbing jailhouse videos of Richard Allen, and photos of Abby and Libby as they were found at the crime scene.

They deliberated for 19 hours over parts of four days to reach a unanimous verdict. Richard Allen was found guilty of four counts: two counts of felony murder and two counts of knowingly and intentionally killing Abby Williams and Libby German.

Delphi residents tell reporters that they are still in shock after learning that local pharmacy tech Richard Allen has been charged in the 2017 murder of teens Liberty German and Abigail Williams.

Photos of Allen in a local bar with the police sketch of the murder suspect posted on the wall behind him have surfaced.

We have also learned that while at work, Allen developed photos of the girls, to be used at their funeral, for the families at no charge. 

Police say Allen came forward as a witness in the early days of the investigation, but nothing at that time linked him to the crime.   

Joining Nancy Grace Today:
David Yoder - Richard Allen's former neighbor  
Fran Longwell - Former Deputy State’s Attorney (Calvert County, MD), Former Assistant State’s Attorney (Prince George’s County, MD) specializing in child abuse, sex offenses and homicides
Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist; Twitter: @carynpsych, Facebook: "Caryn Stark"
Sheryl McCollum - Forensic Expert, Founder: Cold Case Investigative Research Institute in Atlanta, GA.; @ColdCaseTips 
Dr. Todd M. Barr - Board-Certified Anatomic/Clinical/Forensic Pathologist (Ohio), Featured in "Thin Places: Essays From In Between" by Jordan Kisner; Twitter: @ToddBarrME
Max Lewis - Reporter, FOX59 (Indianapolis); Twitter/Instagram: @MaxLewisTV, Facebook.com/MaxLewisTV 

Richard Allen,&nbsp; convicted in the 2017 murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German in Delphi, Indiana, has filed an appeal to overturn his conviction. Oral arguments will be heard September 21, 2026.&nbsp; &nbsp;
The jury took two minutes from entering the courtroom to announce the verdict: Richard Allen, guilty on all charges.
Allen was convicted of felony murder for Abby Williams and Libby German, as well as for knowingly and intentionally killing both girls. Judge Gull maintained order in the courtroom, where there were no outbursts, but outside on the streets of Delphi, shouts of "Guilty on all charges" echoed.
&nbsp;The jury, composed of seven women and five men, heard 17 days of testimony, including dozens of witnesses, disturbing jailhouse videos of Richard Allen, and photos of Abby and Libby as they were found at the crime scene.
They deliberated for 19 hours over parts of four days to reach a unanimous verdict. Richard Allen was found guilty of four counts: two counts of felony murder and two counts of knowingly and intentionally killing Abby Williams and Libby German.
Delphi residents tell reporters that they are still in shock after learning that local pharmacy tech Richard Allen has been charged in the 2017 murder of teens Liberty German and Abigail Williams.
Photos of Allen in a local bar with the police sketch of the murder suspect posted on the wall behind him have surfaced.
We have also learned that while at work, Allen developed photos of the girls, to be used at their funeral, for the families at no charge.&nbsp;
Police say Allen came forward as a witness in the early days of the investigation, but nothing at that time linked him to the crime.&nbsp; &nbsp;
Joining Nancy Grace Today:
<ul>
<li>David Yoder - Richard Allen's former neighbor&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>
<li>Fran Longwell - Former Deputy State&rsquo;s Attorney (Calvert County, MD), Former Assistant State&rsquo;s Attorney (Prince George&rsquo;s County, MD) specializing in child abuse, sex offenses and homicides</li>
<li><a href="CarynStark.com">Caryn Stark</a> - NYC Psychologist; Twitter: @carynpsych, Facebook: "Caryn Stark"</li>
<li><a href="ColdCaseCrimes.org">Sheryl McCollum</a> - Forensic Expert, Founder: Cold Case Investigative Research Institute in Atlanta, GA.; @ColdCaseTips&nbsp;</li>
<li>Dr. Todd M. Barr - Board-Certified Anatomic/Clinical/Forensic Pathologist (Ohio), Featured in "Thin Places: Essays From In Between" by Jordan Kisner; Twitter: @ToddBarrME</li>
<li>Max Lewis - Reporter, FOX59 (Indianapolis); Twitter/Instagram: @MaxLewisTV, Facebook.com/MaxLewisTV&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

DELPHI KILLER RICHARD ALLEN CONVICTED OF GRUESOME DEATH OF TEENS LIBBY AND ABBY DEMANDS REVERSAL 

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Ted Bundy, one of America's most notorious serial killers, was also a kidnapper, rapist, burglar, and necrophile who attacked dozens of young women and girls across the US in the 1970s. Bundy's killing spree was interrupted in 1977 when he was arrested for a Colorado murder, but he escaped while being transported to a court hearing. He was caught again in Florida in 1978, but only after a brutal raid on a Florida State University sorority house. Bundy confessed to 30 homicides, although it suspected his death toll was much higher.  He has now been tied to the death of Laura Ann Aime She disappeared on Halloween night in 1974 after leaving a party. Her body was discovered a month later in American Fork Canyon, Utah.  Bundy was executed by Florida in 1989.

Joining Nancy Grace today:  historian Peter Vronksy, former SVU detective Steven Lampley, and   Alan Duke, investigative reporter. .

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Ted Bundy, one of America's most notorious serial killers, was also a kidnapper, rapist, burglar, and necrophile who attacked dozens of young women and girls across the US in the 1970s. Bundy's killing spree was interrupted in 1977 when he was arrested for a Colorado murder, but he escaped while being transported to a court hearing. He was caught again in Florida in 1978, but only after a brutal raid on a Florida State University sorority house. Bundy confessed to 30 homicides, although it suspected his death toll was much higher.&nbsp; He has now been tied to the death of Laura Ann Aime She disappeared on Halloween night in 1974 after leaving a party. Her body was discovered a month later in American Fork Canyon, Utah.&nbsp; Bundy was executed by Florida in 1989.
Joining Nancy Grace today:&nbsp; historian Peter Vronksy, former SVU detective Steven Lampley, and&nbsp; &nbsp;Alan Duke, investigative reporter. .
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SERIAL KILLER TED BUNDY BUSTED IN DECADES OLD TEEN MURDER

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Mackenzie Shirilla is serving 15 years to life at the Ohio Reformatory for Women, convicted on 12 counts, including murder and aggravated vehicular homicide.  Police say Shirilla deliberately crashing her car into a brick building at 100 mph. Two passengers were killed, Shirilla's boyfriend, Dominic Russo, and their friend, Davion Flanagan. Data from the car's black box showed Shirilla floored the gas pedal and never used the brakes, making calculated steering and gear adjustments before impact.  She was 17 at the time.  

Now jailhouse recordings and prison records reveal that convicted double-murderer is making    demand behind bars  Recordings from her time at the Ohio Reformatory for Women exposed her begging for perks like an iPad, complaining about being bored, and scheming with her mother.  A prison document details 23 complaints and 36 violations against her, including flashing her breasts to visitors, possessing contraband like paints and monopoly money, and refusing job assignments.  

Shirilla will not be eligible for her first parole hearing until October 2037.   

Joining Nancy Grace today: 
Christine Russo  - Dominic Russo's older sister - Host, "The Big Sister: Unhinged Podcast,"  Instagram: @thebigsisterunhinged,  www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged
Shyann Topping - Mackenzie Shirilla's prison girlfriend in 2023  TikTok: shyanntoppingg 
Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst,  Host "On the Couch with Dr. Bethany," Author: "Deal Breaker,”  featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock, www.drbethanymarshall.com , Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive  
John Mobley  - Trial attorney, John Mobley Law Firm
Dr. Kendall Crowns  - TX Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth),  Podcast "Mayhem in the Morgue," Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)   
Joel Waldman  - Co-host of "Surviving the Survivor,"   Author of "Surviving the Survivor: A Brutally Honest Conversation about Life (& Death) with My Mom: A Holocaust Survivor, Therapist & My Podcast Co-Host", Co-Founder and Creative Director at Content Product Media 
Dave Mack -  Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'

Mackenzie Shirilla is serving 15 years to life at the Ohio Reformatory for Women, convicted on 12 counts, including murder and aggravated vehicular homicide.&nbsp; Police say Shirilla deliberately crashing her car into a brick building at 100 mph. Two passengers were killed, Shirilla's boyfriend, Dominic Russo, and their friend, Davion Flanagan. Data from the car's black box showed Shirilla floored the gas pedal and never used the brakes, making calculated steering and gear adjustments before impact.&nbsp; She was 17 at the time.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Now jailhouse recordings and prison records reveal that convicted double-murderer is making&nbsp; &nbsp; demand behind bars&nbsp; Recordings from her time at the Ohio Reformatory for Women exposed her begging for perks like an iPad, complaining about being bored, and scheming with her mother.&nbsp; A prison document details 23 complaints and 36 violations against her, including flashing her breasts to visitors, possessing contraband like paints and monopoly money, and refusing job assignments.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Shirilla will not be eligible for her first parole hearing until October 2037.&nbsp; &nbsp;
Joining Nancy Grace today:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Christine Russo&nbsp; - Dominic Russo's older sister - Host, "The Big Sister: Unhinged Podcast,"&nbsp; Instagram: @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebigsisterunhinged/#" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="11">thebigsisterunhinged</a>,&nbsp; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="12">www.youtube.com/@TheBigSisterUnhinged</a></li>
<li>Shyann Topping - Mackenzie Shirilla's prison girlfriend in 2023&nbsp; TikTok: shyanntoppingg&nbsp;</li>
<li>Dr. Bethany Marshall - Psychoanalyst, &nbsp;Host "On the Couch with Dr. Bethany," Author: "Deal Breaker,&rdquo;&nbsp; featured in hit show: "Paris in Love" on Peacock, <a href="https://www.drbethanymarshall.com/" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="13" data-outlook-id="bfb7b2bf-9a2c-4f56-973d-6574757632da">www.drbethanymarshall.com</a> , Instagram &amp; TikTok: drbethanymarshall, Twitter: @DrBethanyLive&nbsp;&nbsp; John Mobley&nbsp;&nbsp;- Trial&nbsp;attorney, <a href="https://johnmobley.com/">John Mobley Law Firm</a></li>
<li>Dr. Kendall Crowns&nbsp; - TX Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth),&nbsp; Podcast "Mayhem in the Morgue," Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University)&nbsp; &nbsp; Joel Waldman&nbsp; - Co-host of "Surviving the Survivor,"&nbsp; &nbsp;Author of "Surviving the Survivor: A Brutally Honest Conversation about Life (&amp; Death) with My Mom: A Holocaust Survivor, Therapist &amp; My Podcast Co-Host", Co-Founder and Creative Director at Content Product Media&nbsp;</li>
<li>Dave Mack -&nbsp; Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'</li>
</ul>

HELL ON WHEELS MACKENZIE SHIRILLA KILLS 2 MEN, DIVA DEMANDS BEHIND BARS

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GIRL, 5, WALKS ALONE TO SCHOOL, MURDERED

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