Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy Guthrie, missing now more than three months. Clashes between FBI director Kash Patel and Pima Sheriff Chris Nanos has seemingly torpedoed the search for Nancy.

The search continues as we learn a vast area near Nancy's home is unsearched and why have investigators shifted, now searching for a gray van.   

Joining Nancy Grace today: 
Caryn Stark -  Forensic Psychologist,  www.carynstark.com, Instagram: carynpsych, FB: Caryn Stark Private Practice 
Brian Fitzgibbons  -  Director of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security, website: www.uspasecurity.com, Instagram: @uspa_nationwide_security
Joseph Scott Morgan -  Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet", Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan", Instagram @JoScottForensic, 
Allison Weiner   - Senior Reporter, NewsNation and Author: "Murder in the Media".   
Dave Mack -  Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'

Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy Guthrie, missing now more than three months. Clashes between FBI director Kash Patel and Pima Sheriff Chris Nanos has seemingly torpedoed the search for Nancy.
The search continues as we learn a vast area near Nancy's home is unsearched and why have investigators shifted, now searching for a gray van.&nbsp; &nbsp;
Joining&nbsp;Nancy Grace today:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Caryn Stark -&nbsp; Forensic Psychologist,&nbsp; <a href="http://www.carynstark.com/" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="1">www.carynstark.com</a>, Instagram: carynpsych, FB: Caryn Stark Private Practice&nbsp;</li>
<li>Brian Fitzgibbons&nbsp; -  Director of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security, website: <a href="http://www.uspasecurity.com/" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-outlook-id="cf94dc98-46d0-46ad-a3cf-62682a87979f" data-linkindex="2">www.uspasecurity.com</a>, Instagram: @uspa_nationwide_security</li>
<li>Joseph Scott Morgan -&nbsp; Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet", Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan", Instagram @JoScottForensic,&nbsp;</li>
<li>Allison Weiner&nbsp; &nbsp;- Senior Reporter, NewsNation and Author: "Murder in the Media".&nbsp; &nbsp;</li>
<li>Dave Mack -&nbsp; Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'</li>
</ul>

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CLASH OF TITANS NANOS-PATEL COSTS NANCY GUTHRIE'S LIFE? 

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Prince Andrew is still facing mounting pressure from the U.S. House Oversight Committee to testify regarding his connections to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.  Members of the House Oversight Committee sent a letter to Prince Andrew requesting an interview as part of a broader congressional investigation into Epstein’s network.  Andrew’s representatives have not responded to or complied.

A few months after Epstein walked free, Prince Andrew corresponds with the convicted sex offender, promising to make plans for a trip to New York, as “it would be good to catch up in person.”

Andrew claims his December trip to Epstein’s New York mansion was planned solely to break the news he must cut contact with the financier.

However, in a January email to Epstein, Andrew writes, “Keep in close touch, and we’ll play some more soon!!!!”

The Met Police investigate claims Prince Andrew tried to involve his tax-funded Met Protection Officer and Queen Elizabeth’s deputy press secretary in a smear campaign against Virginia Giuffre.

Metropolitan Police are told to re-investigate Virginia Giuffre’s sex abuse allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor following removal of his royal titles.

But Scotland Yard claims they will not pursue a criminal investigation after Giuffre's initial allegations or her civil case.

Prince Andrew may face more than just eviction! Republic, a pressure group that pushes to see the monarchy abolished, instructed lawyers to begin an investigation into the prince.

Anonymous plaintiffs file lawsuits against Bank of America and Bank of New York Mellon, claiming the institutions illicitly enabled Epstein’s trafficking activities.

Both banks are accused of ignoring the illegal activity, with Bank of America turning a blind eye to Epstein’s use of a victim’s account to pay her and other victims off, and Mellon failed to flag nearly $378 million in victim payments as suspicious.

Joining Nancy Grace:
Lynn Shaw - She is in DC right now lobbying congress to release the Epstein files; She's the Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors (an organization committed to ending human trafficking and sexual exploitation,  Host of Lynn's Warriors on YouTube;  X: @lynns_warriors, YouTube: @LynnsWarriors
Greg Morse - Criminal Defense Attorney of Morse Legal, Author of “The Untested,” found on Amazon
Dr. Bethany Marshall -  Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
Robert Crispin - Private Investigator “Crispin Special Investigations," Former Federal Task Force Officer for the United States Department of Justice (DEA and Miami Field Division) and Former Homicide and Crimes Against Children Investigator; FB: Crispin Special Investigations Inc.
Barry Levine - Author of “The Spider: Inside the Tangled Web of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell,” and Veteran Investigative and Editor in Print and Television
Harriet Alexander -  Senior Features Writer at DailyMail.com
Sydney Sumner- Investigative Reporter, ‘Crime Stories’

Prince Andrew is still facing mounting pressure from the U.S. House Oversight Committee to testify regarding his connections to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.&nbsp; Members of the House Oversight Committee sent a letter to Prince Andrew requesting an interview as part of a broader congressional investigation into Epstein&rsquo;s network.&nbsp; Andrew&rsquo;s representatives have not responded to or complied.
A few months after Epstein walked free, Prince Andrew corresponds with the convicted sex offender, promising to make plans for a trip to New York, as &ldquo;it would be good to catch up in person.&rdquo;
Andrew claims his December trip to Epstein&rsquo;s New York mansion was planned solely to break the news he must cut contact with the financier.
However, in a January email to Epstein, Andrew writes, &ldquo;Keep in close touch, and we&rsquo;ll play some more soon!!!!&rdquo;
The Met Police investigate claims Prince Andrew tried to involve his tax-funded Met Protection Officer and Queen Elizabeth&rsquo;s deputy press secretary in a smear campaign against Virginia Giuffre.
Metropolitan Police are told to re-investigate Virginia Giuffre&rsquo;s sex abuse allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor following removal of his royal titles.
But Scotland Yard claims they will not pursue a criminal investigation after Giuffre's initial allegations or her civil case.
Prince Andrew may face more than just eviction! Republic, a pressure group that pushes to see the monarchy abolished, instructed lawyers to begin an investigation into the prince.
Anonymous plaintiffs file lawsuits against Bank of America and Bank of New York Mellon, claiming the institutions illicitly enabled Epstein&rsquo;s trafficking activities.
Both banks are accused of ignoring the illegal activity, with Bank of America turning a blind eye to Epstein&rsquo;s use of a victim&rsquo;s account to pay her and other victims off, and Mellon failed to flag nearly $378 million in victim payments as suspicious.
Joining Nancy Grace:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://lynnswarrior.org">Lynn Shaw</a> - She is in DC right now lobbying congress to release the Epstein files; She's the Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors (an organization committed to ending human trafficking and sexual exploitation,  Host of Lynn's Warriors on YouTube;  X: @lynns_warriors, YouTube: @LynnsWarriors</li>
<li><a href="http://morselegal.com/#:~:text=About%20Morse%20Legal&amp;text=Greg%20Morse%20has%20over%2025,of%20every%20type%20of%20charge.">Greg Morse</a> - Criminal Defense Attorney of Morse Legal, Author of &ldquo;The Untested,&rdquo; found on Amazon</li>
<li><a href="http://www.drbethanymarshall.com">Dr. Bethany Marshall</a> -&nbsp; Psychoanalyst, Author: "Deal Breaker," and featured in hit show "Paris in Love" on Peacock; Instagram &amp; TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive</li>
<li><a href="http://CrispinInvestigations.com">Robert Crispin</a> - Private Investigator &ldquo;Crispin Special Investigations," Former Federal Task Force Officer for the United States Department of Justice (DEA and Miami Field Division) and Former Homicide and Crimes Against Children Investigator; FB: Crispin Special Investigations Inc.</li>
<li>Barry Levine - Author of &ldquo;The Spider: Inside the Tangled Web of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell,&rdquo; and Veteran Investigative and Editor in Print and Television</li>
<li>Harriet Alexander - &nbsp;Senior Features Writer at DailyMail.com</li>
<li>Sydney Sumner- Investigative Reporter, &lsquo;Crime Stories&rsquo;</li>
</ul>

"DUCHESS" SARAH FERGUGSON SPOTTED LEAVING LUX SKI REPORT AFTER EPSTEIN

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In this week’s episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum talks with retired FBI special agent Jodene Weber about the parallels in their careers and the many times their paths nearly crossed before they officially met. Jodene reflects on the cases that shaped her years in the FBI, from piecing together the timeline of the Olympic Park bombing through crowd photographs to processing debris at the Pentagon after the 9/11 attacks. She shares what investigations of that scale demand from the people working them, and why citizen tips, careful documentation, and keen observation can make all the difference in solving a case.



References & Further Reading:

The Only Plane in the Sky: An Oral History of 9/11 by Garrett M. Graff

The Day the World Came to Town: 9/11 in Gander, Newfoundland by Jim DeFede

The Bald-Faced Deception by Jodene Weber

Come From Away



Highlights:

(0:00) Sheryl McCollum welcomes Jodene Weber to Zone 7, and traces the overlaps in their careers

(2:45) How Nancy Drew, Patricia Cornwell, and a love of reading shaped Jodene’s investigative instincts

(4:45) Why strong writing and careful documentation can make or break a case

(8:30) Jodene’s journalism career and FBI recruitment story

(11:45) Jodene recalls joining the Olympic Park bombing investigation

(13:00) How investigators used crowd photos and the Olympic broadcast screen to build a timeline of events

(15:00) NASA image enhancement, suspect details, and the Birmingham bombing tip that helped investigators identify Eric Rudolph

(20:00) Citizen tips, false leads, and the kind of public memory that could help solve the Nancy Guthrie case

(24:00) Sheryl recalls her sister’s diverted flight to Gander, Newfoundland, and the kindness shown to stranded passengers after 9/11

(27:30) Inside the Pentagon response: fire, debris, remains, and aircraft evidence, and the emotional weight at the scene

(33:30) Jodene describes the long shifts and the exhausting rhythm of sorting through the 9/11 aftermath

(35:15) The generosity shown after 9/11 in Gander and by the volunteers who supported recovery teams

(39:30) Ongoing health issues tied to 9/11 exposure and Sheryl’s closing quote



Guest Bio:

Jodene Weber is a retired FBI agent, former journalist, author, and podcast host whose work brings together investigative experience and clear storytelling. She is the author of The Bald-Faced Deception and hosts the true crime podcast Caught In My Web.



Enjoying Zone 7? Leave a rating and review where you listen to podcasts. Your feedback helps others find the show and supports the mission to educate, engage, and inspire.



Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an active crime scene investigator for a Metro Atlanta Police Department and the director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, which partners with colleges and universities nationwide. With more than 4 decades of experience, she has worked on thousands of cold cases using her investigative system, The Last 24/361, which integrates evidence, media, and advanced forensic testing.

Her work on high-profile cases, including The Boston Strangler, Natalie Holloway, Tupac Shakur and the Moore’s Ford Bridge lynching, led to her Emmy Award for CSI: Atlanta and induction into the National Law Enforcement Hall of Fame in 2023.



Social Links:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Instagram:@officialzone7podcast

TikTok: @Sheryl.McCollum



Preorder Sheryl’s upcoming book, Swans Don’t Swim in a Sewer: Solving the Cold Case of the Flint River Killer’s Daughter, releasing May 12, 2026.

 

In this week&rsquo;s episode of Zone 7, Sheryl McCollum talks with retired FBI special agent Jodene&nbsp;Weber about the parallels in their careers and the many times their paths nearly crossed before&nbsp;they officially met. Jodene reflects on the cases that shaped her years in the FBI, from piecing&nbsp;together the timeline of the Olympic Park bombing through crowd photographs to processing&nbsp;debris at the Pentagon after the 9/11 attacks. She shares what investigations of that scale&nbsp;demand from the people working them, and why citizen tips, careful documentation, and keen&nbsp;observation can make all the difference in solving a case. 
References &amp; Further Reading:
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Only-Plane-Sky-Oral-History/dp/150118220X">The Only Plane in the Sky: An Oral History of 9/11</a> by Garrett M. Graff
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Day-World-Came-Town-Newfoundland/dp/0060559713">The Day the World Came to Town: 9/11 in Gander, Newfoundland</a> by Jim DeFede
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Bald-Faced-Deception-Jodene-Weber-ebook/dp/B0F1TW3GW5">The Bald-Faced Deception</a> by Jodene Weber
<a href="https://comefromaway.com/">Come From Away</a> 
Highlights:
(0:00) Sheryl McCollum welcomes Jodene Weber to Zone 7, and traces the overlaps in&nbsp;their careers
(2:45) How Nancy Drew, Patricia Cornwell, and a love of reading shaped Jodene&rsquo;s&nbsp;investigative instincts
(4:45) Why strong writing and careful documentation can make or break a case
(8:30) Jodene&rsquo;s journalism career and FBI recruitment story
(11:45) Jodene recalls joining the Olympic Park bombing investigation
(13:00) How investigators used crowd photos and the Olympic broadcast screen to build&nbsp;a timeline of events
(15:00) NASA image enhancement, suspect details, and the Birmingham bombing tip&nbsp;that helped investigators identify Eric Rudolph
(20:00) Citizen tips, false leads, and the kind of public memory that could help solve the&nbsp;Nancy Guthrie case
(24:00) Sheryl recalls her sister&rsquo;s diverted flight to Gander, Newfoundland, and the&nbsp;kindness shown to stranded passengers after 9/11
(27:30) Inside the Pentagon response: fire, debris, remains, and aircraft evidence, and&nbsp;the emotional weight at the scene
(33:30) Jodene describes the long shifts and the exhausting rhythm of sorting through&nbsp;the 9/11 aftermath
(35:15) The generosity shown after 9/11 in Gander and by the volunteers who supported&nbsp;recovery teams
(39:30) Ongoing health issues tied to 9/11 exposure and Sheryl&rsquo;s closing quote 
Guest Bio:
Jodene Weber is a retired FBI agent, former journalist, author, and podcast host whose work&nbsp;brings together investigative experience and clear storytelling. She is the author of The Bald-Faced Deception and hosts the true crime podcast Caught In My Web. 
Enjoying Zone 7? Leave a rating and review where you listen to podcasts. Your feedback helps&nbsp;others find the show and supports the mission to educate, engage, and inspire. 
Sheryl &ldquo;Mac&rdquo; McCollum is an active crime scene investigator for a Metro Atlanta Police&nbsp;Department and the director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, which partners&nbsp;with colleges and universities nationwide. With more than 4 decades of experience, she has&nbsp;worked on thousands of cold cases using her investigative system, The Last 24/361, which&nbsp;integrates evidence, media, and advanced forensic testing.
Her work on high-profile cases, including The Boston Strangler, Natalie Holloway, Tupac Shakur&nbsp;and the Moore&rsquo;s Ford Bridge lynching, led to her Emmy Award for CSI: Atlanta and induction&nbsp;into the National Law Enforcement Hall of Fame in 2023. 
Social Links:
Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
X: @ColdCaseTips
Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum
Instagram: @officialzone7podcast
TikTok: @Sheryl.McCollum 
Preorder Sheryl&rsquo;s upcoming book, Swans Don&rsquo;t Swim in a Sewer: Solving the Cold Case of the Flint River Killer&rsquo;s Daughter, releasing May 12, 2026.
&nbsp;

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollom: When Two Investigators’ Paths Cross  - Olympic Park Bombing, 9/11, and The Power of Public Tips

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Here's Sydney Silvagni with some of our top stories this week:

A 21-year-old man who opened fire at a White House security checkpoint shot down by Secret Service, bystander hurt. Anna Kepner's step-brother to remain free while awaiting trial for her murder. Two young boys recovered in Mexico after their father abandoned Utah home and violated custody agreement. The teenage driver accused of killing Basketball Captain Emily Mae Smith in a drunken hit and run denies involvement in her death, cries leaving court. After three years of searching, Iowa authorities recover Jesse George's body at the rest stop where his killer works. 

Stay informed, stay safe, and stay ahead with "Crime Alert Hourly Update.”

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Here's Sydney Silvagni with some of our top stories this week:
A 21-year-old man who opened fire at a White House security checkpoint shot down by Secret Service, bystander hurt. Anna Kepner's step-brother to remain free while awaiting trial for her murder. Two young boys recovered in Mexico after their father abandoned Utah home and violated custody agreement. The teenage driver accused of killing Basketball Captain Emily Mae Smith in a drunken hit and run denies involvement in her death, cries leaving court. After three years of searching, Iowa authorities recover Jesse George's body at the rest stop where his killer works.&nbsp;
Stay informed, stay safe, and stay ahead with "Crime Alert Hourly Update.&rdquo;

Memorial Weekend Shooting Third in Close Proximity to the President This Month | Crime Alert Saturday Recap 05.30.26

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CLASH OF TITANS NANOS-PATEL COSTS NANCY GUTHRIE'S LIFE?

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