A woman goes to meet family at the visitor center in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina and takes a photo of the area.

When she takes a closer look later, she realizes that the boy in the photo bears a striking resemblance to Sebastian Rogers and contacts authorities. The sheriff’s office confirms they have reached out to North Carolina authorities about the picture, but so far nothing credible has resulted from their inquiries.

Investigators say the boy is not Sebastian.

Seth Rogers also agrees to take a polygraph exam if Nancy Grace sets it up for him. An appointment is made with an established polygrapher.  Seth Rogers is asked many questions such as, did you do anything that could have caused that boy's disappearance and were you involved in any way in the disappearance of that boy? In both instances, Seth Rogers said "no."

Today, we learn the official results.

Joining Nancy Grace:
Seth Rogers- Sebastian’s father, #SebastianStrong, Facebook: Sebastian Rogers (Tennessee) Missing, GofundMe: Finding Sebastian Rogers family support: https://www.gofundme.com/f/finding-sebastian-rogers-family-support 
Tony Mathis  -  Spokesperson for Seth Rogers
Ken Shull - Polygraph Examiner - Former head of entire FBI polygraph program Washington, DC /  Fmr. Special Agent with the FBI,  ken@kendallinvestigations.com  
Irv Brandt- Former US Marshals Service International Investigations Branch, Author: "FLYING SOLO: Top of the World" available on Amazon- irvbrandt.com Twitter: @JackSoloAuthor 
Lauren Conlin - Investigative journalist, Host of The Outlier Podcast. Host of Corruption: What Happened to Grant Solomon, https://laurenconlin.com, X- @Conlin_Lauren, Instagram- @LaurenEmilyConlin, YouTube- @LaurenConlin4 

A woman goes to meet family at the visitor center in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina and takes a photo of the area.
When she takes a closer look later, she realizes that the boy in the photo bears a striking resemblance to Sebastian Rogers and contacts authorities. The sheriff’s office confirms they have reached out to North Carolina authorities about the picture, but so far nothing credible has resulted from their inquiries.
Investigators say the boy is not Sebastian.
Seth Rogers also agrees to take a polygraph exam if Nancy Grace sets it up for him. An appointment is made with an established polygrapher.  Seth Rogers is asked many questions such as, did you do anything that could have caused that boy's disappearance and were you involved in any way in the disappearance of that boy? In both instances, Seth Rogers said "no."
Today, we learn the official results.
Joining Nancy Grace:
<ul>
<li>Seth Rogers- Sebastian’s father, #SebastianStrong, Facebook: Sebastian Rogers (Tennessee) Missing, GofundMe: Finding Sebastian Rogers family support: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/finding-sebastian-rogers-family-support">https://www.gofundme.com/f/finding-sebastian-rogers-family-support </a></li>
<li>Tony Mathis  -  Spokesperson for Seth Rogers </li>
<li>Ken Shull - Polygraph Examiner - Former head of entire FBI polygraph program Washington, DC /  Fmr. Special Agent with the FBI,  ken@kendallinvestigations.com  </li>
<li>Irv Brandt- Former US Marshals Service International Investigations Branch, Author: "FLYING SOLO: Top of the World" available on Amazon- irvbrandt.com Twitter: @JackSoloAuthor </li>
<li>Lauren Conlin - Investigative journalist, Host of The Outlier Podcast. Host of Corruption: What Happened to Grant Solomon, https://laurenconlin.com, X- @Conlin_Lauren, Instagram- @LaurenEmilyConlin, YouTube- @LaurenConlin4 </li>
</ul>

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AUTISTIC BOY SEBASTIAN ROGERS  SIGHTED:  DAD SAYS "IT'S HIM,"  COPS SAY NO

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Lisa and David Hernandez had been separated for a year before he starts stalking her, showing up at her job uninvited and unwelcome. He sends his estranged wife a bouquet of flowers with Lillies, "the Death Flower", knowing she is extremely allergic to them. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how someone can be killed by a blunt force instrument and a sharp-edged instrument at the same time and Dave Mack will fill in the story with the creepy stalking that David Hernandez allegedly did to his wife.

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Transcribed Highlights
00:02:00 Introduction of Lisa Hernandez 

05:12.52 Discussion of "Death Flower" 

08:50.91 Talk about a tool as a weapon
14:17.46 Discussion of skull injury

19:46.20 Discussion of suspect knowing victim allergies

24:28.29 Talk about a "staged" scene
29:19.40 Discussion of allergic reaction 
32:32.27 Discussion of blunt force and sharp force 
36:26.87 Talk about tossing weapon / tool into lake
41:22.33  Discussion of Searching the bottom of a lake

Lisa and David Hernandez had been separated for a year before he starts stalking her, showing up at her job uninvited and unwelcome. He sends his estranged wife a bouquet of flowers with Lillies, "the Death Flower", knowing she is extremely allergic to them. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how someone can be killed by a blunt force instrument and a sharp-edged instrument at the same time and Dave Mack will fill in the story with the creepy stalking that David Hernandez allegedly did to his wife.
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Transcribed Highlights 00:02:00 Introduction of Lisa Hernandez 
05:12.52 Discussion of "Death Flower" 
08:50.91 Talk about a tool as a weapon 14:17.46 Discussion of skull injury
19:46.20 Discussion of suspect knowing victim allergies
24:28.29 Talk about a "staged" scene 29:19.40 Discussion of allergic reaction  32:32.27 Discussion of blunt force and sharp force  36:26.87 Talk about tossing weapon / tool into lake 41:22.33  Discussion of Searching the bottom of a lake

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan: Man Sends Estranged Allergic Wife, Sends Her Death Flower

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Marlen Ochoa-Lopez was murdered before her baby was cut out of her body, according to police. The teen mom went missing as she tried to pick up baby clothes from someone she met online in a motherhood forum.  Now the mother/daughter duo who killed Ochoa-Lopez will spend decades behind bars.   

Clarisa Figueroa, 51, told a judge she understood that she would be in jail for the rest of her life, as the judge sentenced her to 50 years behind bars. Both Figueroa and her daughter, Desiree Figueroa, were charged with first-degree murder for the brutal slaying of Ochoa-Lopez. 

Prosecutors said they lured Ochoa-Lopez to their home on April 23, 2019, with the promise of baby supplies. The duo then strangled Ochoa-Lopez when she arrived and cut the baby from her womb, in an attempt to keep the infant as their own. 

Two months later, the infant, Yovanny Lopez, passed away from brain damage, along with complications from a prolapsed umbilical cord and placenta.

In January, Desiree Figueroa pleaded guilty to murder and took a plea deal, which allowed her to receive 30 years in prison in exchange for testimony against her mother.

 Joining Nancy Grace Today 
Troy Slaten - Los Angeles Defense Lawyer
Steven Lampley - Former Detective
Dr. Bethany Marshall -  Psychoanalyst
Dr. Kris Sperry - Retired Chief Medical Examiner for the State of Georgia  
Dave Mack - Crimeoneline.com Investigative Reporter

Marlen Ochoa-Lopez was murdered before her baby was cut out of her body, according to police. The teen mom went missing as she tried to pick up baby clothes from someone she met online in a motherhood forum.  Now the mother/daughter duo who killed Ochoa-Lopez will spend decades behind bars.   
Clarisa Figueroa, 51, told a judge she understood that she would be in jail for the rest of her life, as the judge sentenced her to 50 years behind bars. Both Figueroa and her daughter, Desiree Figueroa, were charged with first-degree murder for the brutal slaying of Ochoa-Lopez. 
Prosecutors said they lured Ochoa-Lopez to their home on April 23, 2019, with the promise of baby supplies. The duo then strangled Ochoa-Lopez when she arrived and cut the baby from her womb, in an attempt to keep the infant as their own. 
Two months later, the infant, Yovanny Lopez, passed away from brain damage, along with complications from a prolapsed umbilical cord and placenta.
In January, Desiree Figueroa pleaded guilty to murder and took a plea deal, which allowed her to receive 30 years in prison in exchange for testimony against her mother.
 Joining Nancy Grace Today 
<ul>
<li>Troy Slaten - Los Angeles Defense Lawyer</li>
<li>Steven Lampley - Former Detective</li>
<li>Dr. Bethany Marshall -  Psychoanalyst</li>
<li>Dr. Kris Sperry - Retired Chief Medical Examiner for the State of Georgia  </li>
<li>Dave Mack - Crimeoneline.com Investigative Reporter</li>
</ul>

Womb Raider Learns Fate After Baby Ripped From Young Mom’s Body

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Kouri Richins defense team has a strategy to argue every piece of evidence the prosecution has, in an effort to have the case against her dismissed. The prosecutors are working hard to not let that happen during the preliminary hearing. As both sides are preparing to provide the court with their evidence, the prosecution says they need at least three full days to present their case for the judge. Noting the amount of time that will be needed to conduct the hearing, the judge moved the case to June 18 to June 21. The Kouri Richins defense will be to stand up to each piece of evidence and have the case dismissed before ever getting to trial 

The judge allows prosecutors to introduce evidence that Kouri looked into getting a divorce and had a law firm on retainer.  After receiving a consultation. Kouri allegedly tells her bother that she ended the consultation because she didn't want half of everything and wants to walk away clean and free.  However, the court may reasonably infer the opposite is true as it appears Kouri Richins didn't want half of everything. Prosecutors say she wanted everything and to that end, planned to cause Eric Richins' death 

The investigation into the death of Eric Richins show text messages between Kouri Richins and her mother, Lisa Darden, show great disdain for Eric on Lisa Darden's part. Investigators include in their report that right before her significant other dies, Lisa Darden is added to her will.   The detective writes, based on Lisa Darden’s proximity to her partner’s suspicious overdose death, and her relationship with Kouri, it is possible she was involved in planning and orchestrating Eric’s death."  
JOINING NANCY GRACE TODAY: 
Greg Skordas - Friend and Spokesperson for victim Eric Richins
Troy Slaten - Criminal Defense Attorney, Slaten Lawyers, APC; Twitter @TroySlaten
Dr Ernest Chiodo - Toxicologist, Physician, Biomedical Engineer, Attorney, Author: “Toxic Tort: Medical and Legal Elements”, www.ernestpchiodo.com, 
Justin Boardman - Former Detective, West Valley City Police Department Special Victim’s Unit, Boardman Training & Consulting 
Elaine Aradillas - Investigative Journalist Previously worked at People magazine and The Messenger.  X/Twitter: @elaineja  Instagram: @the_elaine 

Kouri Richins defense team has a strategy to argue every piece of evidence the prosecution has, in an effort to have the case against her dismissed. The prosecutors are working hard to not let that happen during the preliminary hearing. As both sides are preparing to provide the court with their evidence, the prosecution says they need at least three full days to present their case for the judge. Noting the amount of time that will be needed to conduct the hearing, the judge moved the case to June 18 to June 21. The Kouri Richins defense will be to stand up to each piece of evidence and have the case dismissed before ever getting to trial 
The judge allows prosecutors to introduce evidence that Kouri looked into getting a divorce and had a law firm on retainer.  After receiving a consultation. Kouri allegedly tells her bother that she ended the consultation because she didn't want half of everything and wants to walk away clean and free.  However, the court may reasonably infer the opposite is true as it appears Kouri Richins didn't want half of everything. Prosecutors say she wanted everything and to that end, planned to cause Eric Richins' death 
The investigation into the death of Eric Richins show text messages between Kouri Richins and her mother, Lisa Darden, show great disdain for Eric on Lisa Darden's part. Investigators include in their report that right before her significant other dies, Lisa Darden is added to her will.   The detective writes, based on Lisa Darden’s proximity to her partner’s suspicious overdose death, and her relationship with Kouri, it is possible she was involved in planning and orchestrating Eric’s death."  
<ul>
<li>JOINING NANCY GRACE TODAY: </li>
<li>Greg Skordas - Friend and Spokesperson for victim Eric Richins</li>
<li>Troy Slaten - Criminal Defense Attorney, Slaten Lawyers, APC; Twitter @TroySlaten</li>
<li>Dr Ernest Chiodo - Toxicologist, Physician, Biomedical Engineer, Attorney, Author: “Toxic Tort: Medical and Legal Elements”, <a href="http://www.ernestpchiodo.com/" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-loopstyle="linkonly" data-linkindex="3">www.ernestpchiodo.com</a>, </li>
<li>Justin Boardman - Former Detective, West Valley City Police Department Special Victim’s Unit, Boardman Training &amp; Consulting </li>
<li>Elaine Aradillas - Investigative Journalist Previously worked at People magazine and The Messenger.  X/Twitter: @elaineja  Instagram: @the_elaine </li>
</ul>

COPS: DID MOTHER-IN-LAW HELP "MOSCOW MULE MOM" POISON HUBBY DEAD?

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AUTISTIC BOY SEBASTIAN ROGERS SIGHTED: DAD SAYS "IT'S HIM," COPS SAY NO

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