We discourage every couple from divorce, but sometimes there isn't a choice. Join Greg & Erin as they sit down with author Susan Birdseye as she shares her story about facing infidelity, divorce, and the goodness of God. Later, we hear a devotion from Bill Arbuckle about famed explorer Ernest Shackleton. Then, we hear a question from a listener who wants to know how they can have emotional conversations with their unemotional spouse.



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We discourage every couple from divorce, but sometimes there isn't a choice. Join Greg &amp; Erin as they sit down with author Susan Birdseye as she shares her story about facing infidelity, divorce, and the goodness of God. Later, we hear a devotion from Bill Arbuckle about famed explorer Ernest Shackleton. Then, we hear a question from a listener who wants to know how they can have emotional conversations with their unemotional spouse.
 
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Did you know the Hebrew root word for marriage is the same as mess? Okay, maybe not, but it wasn’t a stretch to believe, right? This is the podcast for Christian married couples who are in the middle of a messy moment. They need to laugh. They need clear, practical advice. And they need to hear from someone with an actual degree in this thing. Dr. Greg and Erin Smalley are those people. They have reached millions of couples through their counseling practices, books, events, and work at Focus on the Family.

Did you know the Hebrew root word for marriage is the same as mess? Okay, maybe not, but it wasn’t a stretch to believe, right? This is the podcast for Christian married couples who are in the middle of a messy moment. They need to laugh. They need clear, practical advice. And they need to hear from someone with an actual degree in this thing. Dr. Greg and Erin Smalley are those people. They have reached millions of couples through their counseling practices, books, events, and work at Focus on the Family.

Crazy Little Thing Called Marriage

Did you know the Hebrew root word for marriage is the same as mess? Okay, maybe not, but it wasn’t a stretch to believe, right? This is the podcast for Christian married couples who are in the middle of a messy moment. They need to laugh. They need clear practical advice. And they need to hear from someone with an actual degree in this thing. Dr. Greg and Erin Smalley are those people. They have reached millions of couples through their counseling practices, books, events, and work at Focus on the Family. 

Did you know the Hebrew root word for marriage is the same as mess? Okay, maybe not, but it wasn’t a stretch to believe, right? This is the podcast for Christian married couples who are in the middle of a messy moment. They need to laugh. They need clear practical advice. And they need to hear from someone with an actual degree in this thing. Dr. Greg and Erin Smalley are those people. They have reached millions of couples through their counseling practices, books, events, and work at Focus on the Family.

Healing After Divorce

Dr. Greg and Erin Smalley discuss the importance of making marriages strong enough to withstand life's challenges. We're bringing back one of our best friends, Dr. Gary Thomas, who talks about his book 'Making Your Marriage a Fortress.' The conversation covers how sin, temptations, and life trials can erode a relationship. We also discuss the significance of spiritual growth, community, and emotional safety in marriages. We'll also answer a listener's question about handling life after divorce and provide practical advice on creating a couples' vision board to achieve future goals together.

 

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Dr. Greg and Erin Smalley discuss the importance of making marriages strong enough to withstand life's challenges. We're bringing back one of our best friends, Dr. Gary Thomas, who talks about his book 'Making Your Marriage a Fortress.' The conversation covers how sin, temptations, and life trials can erode a relationship. We also discuss the significance of spiritual growth, community, and emotional safety in marriages. We'll also answer a listener's question about handling life after divorce and provide practical advice on creating a couples' vision board to achieve future goals together.
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There's something exciting happening and you could call it an Adventure In Odyssey! This is a special release to talk about the brand new animated feature film that will release in the Fall of 2026.

 

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I Want More From Life

We're doing a Question/Answer Show again because you are part of our community—addressing real questions, exploring fresh perspectives, and continuing the dialogue together! Dr. Greg and Erin Smalley share on a variety of marital challenges. From persuading a husband to give family trips another chance to discussing sensitive issues like pornography in marriage, emphasizing boundaries and seeking professional help. Keep sending your questions to us. It's our honor to help you in every way possible!

 

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We're doing a Question/Answer Show again because you are part of our community&mdash;addressing real questions, exploring fresh perspectives, and continuing the dialogue together! Dr. Greg and Erin Smalley share on a variety of marital challenges. From persuading a husband to give family trips another chance to discussing sensitive issues like pornography in marriage, emphasizing boundaries and seeking professional help. Keep sending your questions to us. It's our honor to help you in every way possible!
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