This week, Cass is joined by Lisa Messenger and Sarah Megginson, two colleagues and friends whose lives were changed forever when Sarah offered to be a gestational surrogate for Lisa. In this episode, we discuss Lisa's gruelling six-years and 16 rounds of IVF, and the significant financial, physical, and emotional toll of infertility. The episode delves into the legal and emotional complexities of surrogacy in Australia, the vital role of hope and resilience, and the deepening of Lisa and Sarah's friendship through this profound experience. Both women stress the importance of asking for help, the power of connection, and the broader applicability of their story to anyone facing adversity.

Connect with Sarah & Lisa:

The Power of Two book at Booktopia

www.instagram.com/lisamessenger

www.instagram.com/sarahmegginsonmoney

Connect with Cass

www.cassdunn.com

www.instagram.com/cassdunn_xo

www.instagram.com/crappytohappypod

This week, Cass is joined by Lisa Messenger and Sarah Megginson, two colleagues and friends whose lives were changed forever when Sarah offered to be a gestational surrogate for Lisa. In this episode, we discuss Lisa's gruelling six-years and 16 rounds of IVF, and the significant financial, physical, and emotional toll of infertility. The episode delves into the legal and emotional complexities of surrogacy in Australia, the vital role of hope and resilience, and the deepening of Lisa and Sarah's friendship through this profound experience. Both women stress the importance of asking for help, the power of connection, and the broader applicability of their story to anyone facing adversity.
Connect with Sarah &amp; Lisa:
<a href="booktopia.kh4ffx.net/poweroftwo">The Power of Two book at Booktopia</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lisamessenger">www.instagram.com/lisamessenger</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/sarahmegginsonmoney">www.instagram.com/sarahmegginsonmoney</a>
Connect with Cass
<a href="https://www.cassdunn.com">www.cassdunn.com</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/cassdunn_xo">www.instagram.com/cassdunn_xo</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/crappytohappypod">www.instagram.com/crappytohappypod</a>

Join psychologist Cass Dunn, and inspiring guests from around the world, for real talk, relatable and practical ideas to help you live a happier, more meaningful life.  

www.cassdunn.com

Crappy to Happy is the podcast for people on the move who may be feeling low in energy, mood or motivation and can't figure out exactly why. Cass Dunn, a clinical psychologist, chats with interesting and inspiring guests...

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