What are some tactics we can use to find and retain good people? Our guest, Matt Gorgolinski is a recruiter for construction companies and he breaks down how we can find talent!

 

Matt was also kind enough to provide this resource full of tips to attract talent. - https://docs.google.com/file/d/1P1Hq7d_TmPdZo_w5wFjpPllBR7EmZmu-/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=mspresentation

 

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What are some tactics we can use to find and retain good people? Our guest, Matt Gorgolinski is a recruiter for construction companies and he breaks down how we can find talent!
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Matt was also kind enough to provide this resource full of tips to attract talent. - <a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/1P1Hq7d_TmPdZo_w5wFjpPllBR7EmZmu-/edit?usp=docslist_api&amp;filetype=mspresentation">https://docs.google.com/file/d/1P1Hq7d_TmPdZo_w5wFjpPllBR7EmZmu-/edit?usp=docslist_api&amp;filetype=mspresentation</a>
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How To Find Good People! (feat. Matt Gorgolinski)

The story of Andrew Brown’s life in construction starts on September 11, 2001. Andrew was a 23-year-old IT worker on Wall Street. When the towers fell, Andrew and a friend decided that they had to help. They headed toward Ground Zero and somehow made it through all of the checkpoints. 



After watching so many tradespeople pour themselves into the rescue efforts–most of them with little PPE, Andrew found himself wondering what he could do to support these hardworking people. A couple months later, Andrew put in his two-week notice and started a business with his brother. Together, they started an online tool company.  



Last year, Andrew decided to post some videos sharing what he’s learned over two decades of behind-the-scenes work in the construction industry. The videos gained more and more views, and then one went viral. He realized he was on to something. Tyler shares his appreciation for the simply informative, non-promotional tone of Andrew’s videos.



We ask Andrew to share some thoughts about the labor-shortage issue within the construction world. He says that the narrative needs to change in homes and schools. We need to flip the script on the old-school threat that poor academic performance will sentence you to a life in the trades. That outcome needs to be seen as the reward that it is rather than as a punishment.



We ask Andrew to outline what he thinks can increase the number of young people who aspire to learn a skilled trade. Andrew suggests giving them the bigger picture of where construction fits into the big picture. Then it’s important to help them see the opportunities for working your way up the ladder—possibly toward owning your own business.



Tyler points out that a significant number of people who are currently in the field of construction didn’t even zhead that direction purposefully. Many have kind of stumbled into it from peripheral fields or through jobs they thought would be temporary.



Andrew piggybacks on that idea and emphasizes the importance of looking for people who might enter the skilled trades through unorthodox routes. The various in-roads must be made clear. Construction companies need to make a concerted effort to sell young people on how a career in construction contributes to society. 



Eddie shares about a recent high school event he attended where 30 high school seniors shared their career plans. He got the sense that most of them had simply Googled the salaries for various jobs. There was an inordinate number of nurse anets… nurse aneth… nurse anesthetists. (Why don’t they just change that term, for Pete’s sake. Even some of these people who work in the field struggle with it.) 



Tyler says that it’s important to help people see not just a promising salary but to also help them see a positive workplace experience. Andrew shares his opinion that most young people want immediate gratification. He says that the challenge is for the industry to communicate a cohesive message about the opportunities. He also makes the argument for returning shop class to school. 



Eddie refers to the sense of pride, confidence, and long-term comfort that comes with mastering a broad range of basic construction skills. When you know the basics of plumbing, electrical, framing–all of these things position you not just for employment but also for self-sufficiency.



We step away from the skilled trade conversation for a minute and ask Andrew about the coolest tool he’s seen recently. He mentions a robotic rebar-tier. 



Andrew’s Megaphone Message: We have a skilled trades gap. We can’t be reactive. We need to be proactive. We need to be out there discussing the benefits of plumbing, welding, and the other trades. From teachers and guidance counselors to parents and industry representatives, we need to show young people the picture of what success can look like in the skilled trades.



Find Andrew online:LinkedIn - Toolfetch - Youtube

The story of Andrew Brown’s life in construction starts on September 11, 2001. Andrew was a 23-year-old IT worker on Wall Street. When the towers fell, Andrew and a friend decided that they had to help. They headed toward Ground Zero and somehow made it through all of the checkpoints. 
 
After watching so many tradespeople pour themselves into the rescue efforts–most of them with little PPE, Andrew found himself wondering what he could do to support these hardworking people. A couple months later, Andrew put in his two-week notice and started a business with his brother. Together, they started an online tool company.  
 
Last year, Andrew decided to post some videos sharing what he’s learned over two decades of behind-the-scenes work in the construction industry. The videos gained more and more views, and then one went viral. He realized he was on to something. Tyler shares his appreciation for the simply informative, non-promotional tone of Andrew’s videos.
 
We ask Andrew to share some thoughts about the labor-shortage issue within the construction world. He says that the narrative needs to change in homes and schools. We need to flip the script on the old-school threat that poor academic performance will sentence you to a life in the trades. That outcome needs to be seen as the reward that it is rather than as a punishment.
 
We ask Andrew to outline what he thinks can increase the number of young people who aspire to learn a skilled trade. Andrew suggests giving them the bigger picture of where construction fits into the big picture. Then it’s important to help them see the opportunities for working your way up the ladder—possibly toward owning your own business.
 
Tyler points out that a significant number of people who are currently in the field of construction didn’t even zhead that direction purposefully. Many have kind of stumbled into it from peripheral fields or through jobs they thought would be temporary.
 
Andrew piggybacks on that idea and emphasizes the importance of looking for people who might enter the skilled trades through unorthodox routes. The various in-roads must be made clear. Construction companies need to make a concerted effort to sell young people on how a career in construction contributes to society. 
 
Eddie shares about a recent high school event he attended where 30 high school seniors shared their career plans. He got the sense that most of them had simply Googled the salaries for various jobs. There was an inordinate number of nurse anets… nurse aneth… nurse anesthetists. (Why don’t they just change that term, for Pete’s sake. Even <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBawCN6Pa14">some of these people</a> who work in the field struggle with it.) 
 
Tyler says that it’s important to help people see not just a promising salary but to also help them see a positive workplace experience. Andrew shares his opinion that most young people want immediate gratification. He says that the challenge is for the industry to communicate a cohesive message about the opportunities. He also makes the argument for returning shop class to school. 
 
Eddie refers to the sense of pride, confidence, and long-term comfort that comes with mastering a broad range of basic construction skills. When you know the basics of plumbing, electrical, framing–all of these things position you not just for employment but also for self-sufficiency.
 
We step away from the skilled trade conversation for a minute and ask Andrew about the coolest tool he’s seen recently. He mentions a <a href="https://www.constructionrobots.com/video">robotic rebar-tier</a>. 
 
Andrew’s Megaphone Message: We have a skilled trades gap. We can’t be reactive. We need to be proactive. We need to be out there discussing the benefits of plumbing, welding, and the other trades. From teachers and guidance counselors to parents and industry representatives, we need to show young people the picture of what success can look like in the skilled trades.
 
Find Andrew online: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/andrew-brown-b1736a5_having-a-mentor-in-the-skilled-trades-may-activity-7006245978164887552-VHab/?originalSubdomain=mv">LinkedIn</a> - <a href="https://www.toolfetch.com/">Toolfetch</a> - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Toolfetch">Youtube</a>

Promoting the Skilled Trades (feat. Andrew Brown)

Today Tyler shares about a specific moment that sticks in his memory. Numerous tasks and deadlines were bearing down on him, and the pressure culminated in a mysterious leakage from his eyes. 



Nobody’s immune to being overwhelmed. What matters is how you decide to cope. Tyler’s advice:
Talk to someone. Acknowledge the weight you’re feeling. List the parts of the load that’s creating the overwhelm. Listen openly to the objective insights that person can share about how you can address your current challenge. 
Pick a lane. Address the one element of the load that can most easily be addressed.
Put systems in place to prevent the return to the state of overload. There are ways to avoid it. 



We wrap up this episode with a debate about whose analogy works best for the sensation of being overwhelmed. Feel free to share your own analogy if you are unimpressed with ours. 



Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn



If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! 

Today Tyler shares about a specific moment that sticks in his memory. Numerous tasks and deadlines were bearing down on him, and the pressure culminated in a mysterious leakage from his eyes. 
 
Nobody’s immune to being overwhelmed. What matters is how you decide to cope. Tyler’s advice:
<ol>
<li aria-level="1">Talk to someone. Acknowledge the weight you’re feeling. List the parts of the load that’s creating the overwhelm. Listen openly to the objective insights that person can share about how you can address your current challenge. </li>
<li aria-level="1">Pick a lane. Address the one element of the load that can most easily be addressed.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Put systems in place to prevent the return to the state of overload. There are ways to avoid it. </li>
</ol>
 
We wrap up this episode with a debate about whose analogy works best for the sensation of being overwhelmed. Feel free to share your own analogy if you are unimpressed with ours. 
 
Find Us Online:<a href="https://www.brospodcast.com/"> BrosPodcast.com</a> -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/constructionbrospodcast/"> LinkedIn</a> -<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7OcpEn4q1_4yWXIY9Zuyiw"> Youtube</a> -<a href="https://www.instagram.com/constructionbrospodcast/"> Instagram</a> -<a href="https://www.facebook.com/constructionbrospodcast"> Facebook</a> -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddie-c-057b3b11/"> Eddie's LinkedIn</a> -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerscottcampbell/"> Tyler's LinkedIn</a>
 
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Managing Overwhelm | 5 Minute Friday

Dan Wies is the president of Wies Drywall and Construction, a St. Louis company that has been in his family for three generations. He also enjoys contributing to the community–by providing quality service customers as well as training and growth opportunities to employees.



Dan sees it as his job to make the general contractor the hero. “My name should never be in your mouth in a bad way,” he says to general contractors. 



The key to staying effective, profitable, and safe, Dan says, is having a really solid team that can execute consistently. This is the key to owners and contractors who are not frustrated.



We ask Dan to discuss some of the pain points of drywall work. He touches on these things:
Ensuring that you aren’t just treated like another bidder on bid day - This means being clear about the scope of bids.  
Standing out in an increasingly complex construction landscape - This means being clear and consistent about their focus. It also means innovating–creating systems that are more efficient.
Timing production runs to ensure that storage space doesn’t overflow before a site is ready for the parts. 



We discuss panelization and modularization. Dan explains that these approaches help him help general contractors move projects along at a faster pace. Having a Revit specialist on the team enables him to respond quickly when a contractor needs to plan a change.



Dan explains his company’s use of FRAMECAD, a roll-forming machine (See a video here). Dan compares it to the equipment used to form eavestroughs–but with substantially greater capabilities. Their machine can form anything from a 2” stud to a 50-footer. And it can do this while operating at an almost zero-waste level.



Eddie points out that the average person–even someone who works in the construction industry–doesn’t have a clue how complex the work is that is done by larger drywall operators like Wies’s company. Our perceptions are seriously outdated and simplistic.



Dan shares a bit about how they’ve recruited and trained designers and computer operators. Then we move on to discuss the challenges of sourcing roll-forming equipment from New Zealand in the middle of the pandemic. Surprisingly, Dan said it didn’t take them as long as it’s taking some people now. 



Fitting that cool new machine into the workspace, though… Well, Dan just decided to buy a whole new facility. That facility is now so busy that it’s just busting at the seams. That creates a storage issue, since this material can’t sit outdoors for long periods of time. This means their space is totally overloaded–and then it’s suddenly empty.



We discuss the advantages and challenges of new technologies such as laser scanning. It’s important to weigh the huge number of pros and cons before integrating a new system. It’s also important to keep quality and consistency at the forefront of the decision-making process.



Dan’s Megaphone Message: If we, as an industry, don’t start adopting digital processes, we’re doing ourselves an extreme disservice.



Find Dan Online:LinkedIn - Wies Drywall and Construction



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If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! 

Dan Wies is the president of Wies Drywall and Construction, a St. Louis company that has been in his family for three generations. He also enjoys contributing to the community–by providing quality service customers as well as training and growth opportunities to employees.
 
Dan sees it as his job to make the general contractor the hero. “My name should never be in your mouth in a bad way,” he says to general contractors. 
 
The key to staying effective, profitable, and safe, Dan says, is having a really solid team that can execute consistently. This is the key to owners and contractors who are not frustrated.
 
We ask Dan to discuss some of the pain points of drywall work. He touches on these things:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Ensuring that you aren’t just treated like another bidder on bid day - This means being clear about the scope of bids.  </li>
<li aria-level="1">Standing out in an increasingly complex construction landscape - This means being clear and consistent about their focus. It also means innovating–creating systems that are more efficient.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Timing production runs to ensure that storage space doesn’t overflow before a site is ready for the parts. </li>
</ul>
 
We discuss panelization and modularization. Dan explains that these approaches help him help general contractors move projects along at a faster pace. Having a Revit specialist on the team enables him to respond quickly when a contractor needs to plan a change.
 
Dan explains his company’s use of FRAMECAD, a roll-forming machine (<a href="https://video.framecad.com/framecad-f325it-ideal-for-residential-and-light">See a video here</a>). Dan compares it to the equipment used to form eavestroughs–but with substantially greater capabilities. Their machine can form anything from a 2” stud to a 50-footer. And it can do this while operating at an almost zero-waste level.
 
Eddie points out that the average person–even someone who works in the construction industry–doesn’t have a clue how complex the work is that is done by larger drywall operators like Wies’s company. Our perceptions are seriously outdated and simplistic.
 
Dan shares a bit about how they’ve recruited and trained designers and computer operators. Then we move on to discuss the challenges of sourcing roll-forming equipment from New Zealand in the middle of the pandemic. Surprisingly, Dan said it didn’t take them as long as it’s taking some people now. 
 
Fitting that cool new machine into the workspace, though… Well, Dan just decided to buy a whole new facility. That facility is now so busy that it’s just busting at the seams. That creates a storage issue, since this material can’t sit outdoors for long periods of time. This means their space is totally overloaded–and then it’s suddenly empty.
 
We discuss the advantages and challenges of new technologies such as laser scanning. It’s important to weigh the huge number of pros and cons before integrating a new system. It’s also important to keep quality and consistency at the forefront of the decision-making process.
 
Dan’s Megaphone Message: If we, as an industry, don’t start adopting digital processes, we’re doing ourselves an extreme disservice.
 
Find Dan Online: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-wies/">LinkedIn</a> - <a href="https://www.wiesdrywall.com/">Wies Drywall and Construction</a>
 
Find Us Online: <a href="https://www.brospodcast.com/">BrosPodcast.com</a> - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/constructionbrospodcast/">LinkedIn</a> - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7OcpEn4q1_4yWXIY9Zuyiw">Youtube</a> - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/constructionbrospodcast/">Instagram</a> - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/constructionbrospodcast">Facebook</a> - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddie-c-057b3b11/">Eddie's LinkedIn</a> - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerscottcampbell/">Tyler's LinkedIn</a>
 
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