Residents in war-torn Ukraine are on the run – at least some of them are.

Overall, 7 million people are expected to cross its Western border. While this is the largest exodus of its kind from Europe in decades people can be found in desperate attempts to leave their countries throughout the world at any given time, and not everyone has the capability to leave at the same time or are met at their destination with open arms.

On this week’s episode of Connect the Dots podcast, Executive Producer Mallory Somera speaks with Dr. Coleen Kivlahan – Medical Director of the University of California San Francisco’s Human Rights asylum clinic and Chair of the UCSF Health and Human Rights Initiative – to catch up on the refugee crisis in Ukraine and discuss difficulties faced by different refugee groups as they search for shelter and security.