“Forgiveness is not the goal of salvation. Fellowship with God is the goal of salvation.”

Think about that for a second. I had to. That’s how Kyle Worley reframes the Gospel in his new book, Home with God. And at first glance, it may seem...odd. Because so many of us think salvation is mainly about getting our sins forgiven so we can go to heaven. But Kyle rightly blows that up. Instead, he explains that forgiveness is just the doorway. The real point of salvation is life with God, not just in the future but here and now.

In other words, life is about abiding with Christ. And as I've come to find out, that is crucial to recovering from any addiction. 

In this conversation, Kyle—pastor, theologian, and author—helps us rethink salvation, grace, and identity. We talk about why forgiveness isn’t the finish line, why grace feels so disruptive, and how union with Christ resets the “broken compass” of our desires. If you’ve ever wondered what it really means to be saved, or felt like you were stuck chasing performance, this episode will reframe the story: salvation is about coming home.

Again and again and again.

We explore: 

—Why salvation is about fellowship, not just forgiveness
—How identity in Christ reshapes recovery and freedom
—The difference between behavior change and true transformation
—Why grace feels disruptive and hard to receive
—How Kyle counsels addicts through union with Christ
—The “broken compass” of desire and how Christ reorients it
—Faith as agreement, affection, and allegiance
—How attention and desire shape the people we become
—Why repentance is more than reflection
—The Heidelberg Catechism and the comfort of not belonging to yourself

Books: Home with God and Formed for Fellowship

Website: kyleworley.net

Newsletter: Sacred Slang

Instagram: @kyleworley

Podcast: Knowing Faith

Follow Jon: @jonseidl

Order the new book, Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic: www.christianalcoholic.com.

Watch this episode and get daily motivation: www.theveritasdaily.com

&ldquo;Forgiveness is not the goal of salvation. Fellowship with God is the goal of salvation.&rdquo;
Think about that for a second. I had to. That&rsquo;s how Kyle Worley reframes the Gospel in his new book, Home with God. And at first glance, it may seem...odd. Because so many of us think salvation is mainly about getting our sins forgiven so we can go to heaven. But Kyle rightly blows that up. Instead, he explains that forgiveness is just the doorway. The real point of salvation is life with God, not just in the future but here and now.
In other words, life is about abiding with Christ. And as I've come to find out, that is crucial to recovering from any addiction.&nbsp;
In this conversation, Kyle&mdash;pastor, theologian, and author&mdash;helps us rethink salvation, grace, and identity. We talk about why forgiveness isn&rsquo;t the finish line, why grace feels so disruptive, and how union with Christ resets the &ldquo;broken compass&rdquo; of our desires. If you&rsquo;ve ever wondered what it really means to be saved, or felt like you were stuck chasing performance, this episode will reframe the story: salvation is about coming home.
Again and again and again.
We explore:&nbsp;
&mdash;Why salvation is about fellowship, not just forgiveness &mdash;How identity in Christ reshapes recovery and freedom &mdash;The difference between behavior change and true transformation &mdash;Why grace feels disruptive and hard to receive &mdash;How Kyle counsels addicts through union with Christ &mdash;The &ldquo;broken compass&rdquo; of desire and how Christ reorients it &mdash;Faith as agreement, affection, and allegiance &mdash;How attention and desire shape the people we become &mdash;Why repentance is more than reflection &mdash;The Heidelberg Catechism and the comfort of not belonging to yourself
Books: <a href="https://amzn.to/41Hb5Mg">Home with God</a> and <a href="https://amzn.to/47C4cPX">Formed for Fellowship</a>
Website: <a href="https://kyleworley.net">kyleworley.net</a>
Newsletter: <a href="https://sacredslang.substack.com">Sacred Slang</a>
Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kyleworley/">@kyleworley</a>
Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/knowing-faith/id1274228164">Knowing Faith</a>
Follow Jon: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jonseidl/">@jonseidl</a>
Order the new book,&nbsp;Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.christianalcoholic.com">www.christianalcoholic.com</a>.
Watch this episode and get daily motivation: <a href="https://www.theveritasdaily.com/">www.theveritasdaily.com</a>

Jon Seidl is the bestselling Christian author who became an alcoholic, not the other way around. It's usually the other way around. Or is it? "Confessions of a Christian alcoholic" (based on the book by the same title) is all about real stories, radical vulnerability, and remarkable comebacks of people who have struggled with alcoholism and addictions of all sorts. The show features interviews with fellow addicts and alcoholics as well as professionals in the fields of trauma, faith, and addiction recovery. Because let's be honest, we're all addicted to something. "Confessions" is a place for the desperate, the downtrodden, the destitute, and especially, the drunk. But it's also a place of hope and healing. Jon found sobriety after decades of struggling, but more importantly than finding sobriety, he found Jesus. In every episode, he gets radically vulnerable as he explores what it looks like to be on this journey of messy sanctification. Visit christianalcoholic.com for more resources.

Jon Seidl is the bestselling Christian author who became an alcoholic, not the other way around. It's usually the other way around. Or is it? "Confessions of a Christian alcoholic" (based on the book by the same title) is all about real stories, radical vulnerability, and remarkable comebacks of people who have struggled with alcoholism and addictions of all sorts. The show features interviews with fellow addicts and alcoholics as well as professionals in the fields of trauma, faith, and addiction recovery. Because let's be honest, we're all addicted to something. "Confessions" is a place for the desperate, the downtrodden, the destitute, and especially, the drunk. But it's also a place of hope and healing. Jon found sobriety after decades of struggling, but more importantly than finding sobriety, he found Jesus. In every episode, he gets radically vulnerable as he explores what it looks like to be on this journey of messy sanctification. Visit <a href="http://christianalcoholic.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://christianalcoholic.com&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1747239325727000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1G-752Q-1dyjq6GN5gt7xw">christianalcoholic.com</a> for more resources.

Jon Seidl is the bestselling Christian author who became an alcoholic, not the other way around. It's usually the other way around. Or is it? "Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic" is all about real stories, radical vulnerability, and remarkable comebacks of people who have struggled with alcoholism and addictions of all sorts.

Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic with Jon Seidl

What Actually Is 'Abiding with Christ'? Kyle Worley on the True Goal of Salvation and Coming Home to God (Episode 18)

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