Hey, Club Shade listeners. We'll be back soon with weekly episodes featuring brand new interviews with exciting roster guests. Until then, enjoyed this special rewind episode with one of my favorite moments from Club Sha Shade. So far, all my life and running all my life, one slice all my life, I've been runding. You get criticized because you know, every time if you have an opinion and if it doesn't coincide with some other people's opinion, they say you're a hater. You had a rank and you said that Brady was the sixth most difficult quarterback in NFL history to defend. Do you still agree with your ranking? And why do you say he was the sixth most difficult quarterback to defend? Well, first of all, I don't think you can rank across generations anyway, right, So I said, I'm not gonna do that, and I'm not gonna go by statistics or whatever. I'm gonna go by who was toughest on me. So now I gotta start. I'm never putting Tom Brady ahead of Peyton Manning. So the best he can be this two my guy could ever get us too? Of Okay, who did who gave me real problem. John Elway, you could do everything right, have the perfect defense. He's gonna move around and make something happen and kill you. And he killed me enough to say he was difficult. Steve Young was the same way, those mobile quarterbacks. So that's who I put ahead of Tom. Aaron Rodgers, John Elway, Steve Young, guys, guys who could move. Not to say Tom wasn't great. He is great, but that extra dimension meant something to me. So that's that's why I would only put him at six, just my opinion. Now, we look at and you've mentioned the evolution of the mobile quarterback. Not only look these quarterbacks, we say mobile coach. They're not looking to run the football. They're looking to steal throw the football, and they can throw it on the move. They could throw it wrong foot, they could throw it rolling up, they can throw it roll it right. You look at Deshaun wat you look at Patrick Mahomes, you look at Aaron Rodgers, you look at Russell Wilson. I just saw Josh Allen last night and he's playing unbelievable. When you look at these quarterbacks, what's been the biggest transformation? Why are these quarterbacks coming in and being able to play so well so early. I think a coach is adapting. Rather than taking that rookie quarterback and saying, you gotta learn all this stuff, and you gotta learn how to be a pocket pass and you've got to learn this and learn that, they're saying, no, let me take what this young man does and build on it. So I've got the RPOs in, I've got bootlegs in for them, and that's stuff that you never saw before. And so now it's Russell, Wilson and Deshaun creating. And instead of the coach saying no, no, no, don't do that, the coach is saying, you know what, this helps us, and we'll put scrambled drills in and when Russell does this receiver as you do that, we'll put bootlegs in. Josh Allen, We're gonna let you go. And I think coaches have come out of their shell and they've let these guys be who they are. Coach, are you surprised Patrick Mahomes is this good? I mean I thought I saw him. I saw him throw for over seven hundred yards against Oklahoma, But everybody throws for a bunch of yards in the Big twelve. Are you surprised he's he's on. He has a chance to be all time generational, transcendent great, not just good, he can be great great, great, Yeah, I am. And what amazes me about him is that twenty five years old, his concept in his processing information and his control of the game, very few mistakes, very few interceptions, very few bad checks. So add the great arm skills and all of that, but the mental capacity that he has at twenty five that has amazed me. And you look at the weapon and for Andy, and look you think about it. They went to the playoff, they won the division, they went to the playoffs, if I'm not mistaken, And he moves up seventeen spots to take Patrick Mahomes when he had a quarterback that went to the playoffs. But I think Andy envision in order I got Tyreek, I guy that can take the top off. We've never seen anything like this, Fiz Bob Hayes. I got a guy in Travis Kelsey. In order for me to maximize that, I need a guy that can throw the ball over the top. Yep, yep. They saw something special. I don't know why they saw it, and everybody else didn't but they saw something special in Patrick Mahomes and to put him in the lineup to make that switch from a playoff quarterback, that takes a lot of guts, and they did it, and they knew they were going to the next level. And then to put stuff in for him, fifty five yard corner routes, you know, things that we haven't seen before. You'd get you people would think you're crazy for actually just putting that play in. No, Patrick can do it. We're gonna take advantage of what he can do. I think it's been amazing. You go undrafted. They say, well, if you want an opportunity to play in the NFL, you're gonna have to switch positions. You switch positions, you go undrafted. What why did you settle? Because obviously when you're undrafted you get to choose. I mean, Pittsburgh probably offer you maybe another team. What made you decide to go to the Steelers? Besides they were coming off of Super Bowl. I had a chance, I really did. Bill Poland was the general manager in Montreal, Mark Baby was the coach. They had my rights and they said, you can come to Canada play quarterback, guaranteed money. We're gonna take care of you. This is the league that will showcase your talents. I got a call from the Steelers and they said, we already have Terry Bradshaw, we have other quarterbacks, but you come here. Coach and Old likes smart players. He'll find a spot for you. And I thought, you know, I want to win and I want to play with the best, so I can go to Pittsburgh. Was foolish because the wide receivers Len Swann and John Star wars with backup receivers. At that point they had eleven guys on defense that we're in the Pro Bowl. They had all Pro Bowls secondary. Donnie Chelle was a backup safety. So people, how are you going to make a team? You knowsition, that's all right, but they don't need you. And I said, you know what, I don't care. I don't want to play with the best. And I think that was just the Lord taking care of me. I ended up going there. It was unbelievable, Guys holding out, guys got hurt. About fifty things had to happen for me to make the team, but I made it. Switching over to defense and I began to learn the defensive side of the ball and so three years later, I'm a coach with the Steelers. Coach. You played with the Steelers, and you mentioned that might have been the most talented team in NFL history when you look at it. They got two wide receivers that's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, the running back, the quarterback, the center. You got Mel Blunt, Jack Hamm, Jack Lambert, Joe green LC Greenwood could easily be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Donnie Shell, who I know you're very close with, just made the Pro Football Hall of Fame. You're talking about nine ten guys in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, your head coach, and your owners in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Unbelievable team. And it starts. You mentioned the owner, Art Runney Senior. That's where it started. He and his son Dan Rooney put together an organization. This is how we're gonna be. We're gonna be first class, we're gonna be family atmosphere, and we're gonna find good players. Nineteen sixty nine they hired Chuck Nol. But in nineteen sixty nine they also did something that was kind of unheard of at the time. There was a sportswriter for the black newspaper, the Pittsburgh Courier that they hired Bill Nunn. They hired him as a scout, and so all of a sudden, he's going to Alabama and m and he's going to Florida and he's going to Southern and Savannah State, Yes, yep. And so all of a sudden, we've got these guys Frank Lewis and Glenn Edwards and Mel Blunt and Donnie Shell and John Stalwart that people weren't looking at at the time. So now you get a great coach and you supply this extra injection of talent, and coach Nol put it together and it was a great atmosphere, It really was. And I learned a lot about being a man. I learned about football, and I learned about how to really embrace the city. And that's that's what mister Rooney said when you came there. Hey, you're a Pittsburgh Steeler, but it's not just on the football field. You're a Pittsburgher all the way. And you got to embrace the city. And I learned so much in that organization culture. You're surprised you got traded because you led the team in interceptions. I mean six interceptions most time, we'll get you to the Pro Bowl. I was shocked. Yeah, really, We're coming off of Super Bowl. I'd led the team and interceptions. We had a lot of chemistry, but we just had so many good players then, and we drafted a couple of corners, and Coach Nole just felt like, you know, I can use some of these corners and we'll be better off. So it was one of those things. But again I always looked at it like I think it was the Lord kind of taking me out of my comfort zone, put me in a place where I could learn a little bit more, because eventually I was going to be a coach. I was never gonna be a great player. But going through that San Francisco situation and learning how Eddie de Barlow built a winning organization and Bill Walsh winning situation, it really helped me down the road. Coach you beat. I mean, there was something about the matchup between the Steelers and the Cowboys, and it might have been a couple of years earlier. With this it was the greatest collection of talent, if I'm not mistaken. It was about seventy sixteen or seventeen. Hall of famers on the field at a given time, and there haven't been that many before or since. What was like to be on the field and you're playing the Cowboys with that star study, you got Roger Stallback, you got Tony Door said, you got all those you know, uh, Tony Hill, Drew Pearson. I mean they're loaded on offense and defense as well. You guys are, Yeah, no, we It was one of those just unbelievable situations where you kind of know it's gonna come down to that, and we're gonna play these guys, and neither side was intimidated, and you knew they were gonna be great games. And we enjoyed playing against them. They enjoyed playing against us, And yeah, you're right. You're out there and it's it's Mel Blunt covering Drew Pearson, and it's you know, Randy White going against John Cole and it's one, yeah, one after another after another. And Tony Door said, running inside against Jack Lambert and it was just when I wasn't in the game, I was just right on what is happening out there, and it was It was fascinating. But it was two teams that really believed in themselves and believed in their style of play and there was great players all over the field. You know what to do. Get the subscribe button to become an official member of Club Sha Sha where we always do something for two something

Hey, Club Shade listeners. We'll be back soon with weekly episodes featuring brand new interviews with exciting roster guests. Until then, enjoyed this special rewind episode with one of my favorite moments from Club Sha Shade. So far, all my life and running all my life, one slice all my life, I've been runding. You get criticized because you know, every time if you have an opinion and if it doesn't coincide with some other people's opinion, they say you're a hater. You had a rank and you said that Brady was the sixth most difficult quarterback in NFL history to defend. Do you still agree with your ranking? And why do you say he was the sixth most difficult quarterback to defend? Well, first of all, I don't think you can rank across generations anyway, right, So I said, I'm not gonna do that, and I'm not gonna go by statistics or whatever. I'm gonna go by who was toughest on me. So now I gotta start. I'm never putting Tom Brady ahead of Peyton Manning. So the best he can be this two my guy could ever get us too? Of Okay, who did who gave me real problem. John Elway, you could do everything right, have the perfect defense. He's gonna move around and make something happen and kill you. And he killed me enough to say he was difficult. Steve Young was the same way, those mobile quarterbacks. So that's who I put ahead of Tom. Aaron Rodgers, John Elway, Steve Young, guys, guys who could move. Not to say Tom wasn't great. He is great, but that extra dimension meant something to me. So that's that's why I would only put him at six, just my opinion. Now, we look at and you've mentioned the evolution of the mobile quarterback. Not only look these quarterbacks, we say mobile coach. They're not looking to run the football. They're looking to steal throw the football, and they can throw it on the move. They could throw it wrong foot, they could throw it rolling up, they can throw it roll it right. You look at Deshaun wat you look at Patrick Mahomes, you look at Aaron Rodgers, you look at Russell Wilson. I just saw Josh Allen last night and he's playing unbelievable. When you look at these quarterbacks, what's been the biggest transformation? Why are these quarterbacks coming in and being able to play so well so early. I think a coach is adapting. Rather than taking that rookie quarterback and saying, you gotta learn all this stuff, and you gotta learn how to be a pocket pass and you've got to learn this and learn that, they're saying, no, let me take what this young man does and build on it. So I've got the RPOs in, I've got bootlegs in for them, and that's stuff that you never saw before. And so now it's Russell, Wilson and Deshaun creating. And instead of the coach saying no, no, no, don't do that, the coach is saying, you know what, this helps us, and we'll put scrambled drills in and when Russell does this receiver as you do that, we'll put bootlegs in. Josh Allen, We're gonna let you go. And I think coaches have come out of their shell and they've let these guys be who they are. Coach, are you surprised Patrick Mahomes is this good? I mean I thought I saw him. I saw him throw for over seven hundred yards against Oklahoma, But everybody throws for a bunch of yards in the Big twelve. Are you surprised he's he's on. He has a chance to be all time generational, transcendent great, not just good, he can be great great, great, Yeah, I am. And what amazes me about him is that twenty five years old, his concept in his processing information and his control of the game, very few mistakes, very few interceptions, very few bad checks. So add the great arm skills and all of that, but the mental capacity that he has at twenty five that has amazed me. And you look at the weapon and for Andy, and look you think about it. They went to the playoff, they won the division, they went to the playoffs, if I'm not mistaken, And he moves up seventeen spots to take Patrick Mahomes when he had a quarterback that went to the playoffs. But I think Andy envision in order I got Tyreek, I guy that can take the top off. We've never seen anything like this, Fiz Bob Hayes. I got a guy in Travis Kelsey. In order for me to maximize that, I need a guy that can throw the ball over the top. Yep, yep. They saw something special. I don't know why they saw it, and everybody else didn't but they saw something special in Patrick Mahomes and to put him in the lineup to make that switch from a playoff quarterback, that takes a lot of guts, and they did it, and they knew they were going to the next level. And then to put stuff in for him, fifty five yard corner routes, you know, things that we haven't seen before. You'd get you people would think you're crazy for actually just putting that play in. No, Patrick can do it. We're gonna take advantage of what he can do. I think it's been amazing. You go undrafted. They say, well, if you want an opportunity to play in the NFL, you're gonna have to switch positions. You switch positions, you go undrafted. What why did you settle? Because obviously when you're undrafted you get to choose. I mean, Pittsburgh probably offer you maybe another team. What made you decide to go to the Steelers? Besides they were coming off of Super Bowl. I had a chance, I really did. Bill Poland was the general manager in Montreal, Mark Baby was the coach. They had my rights and they said, you can come to Canada play quarterback, guaranteed money. We're gonna take care of you. This is the league that will showcase your talents. I got a call from the Steelers and they said, we already have Terry Bradshaw, we have other quarterbacks, but you come here. Coach and Old likes smart players. He'll find a spot for you. And I thought, you know, I want to win and I want to play with the best, so I can go to Pittsburgh. Was foolish because the wide receivers Len Swann and John Star wars with backup receivers. At that point they had eleven guys on defense that we're in the Pro Bowl. They had all Pro Bowls secondary. Donnie Chelle was a backup safety. So people, how are you going to make a team? You knowsition, that's all right, but they don't need you. And I said, you know what, I don't care. I don't want to play with the best. And I think that was just the Lord taking care of me. I ended up going there. It was unbelievable, Guys holding out, guys got hurt. About fifty things had to happen for me to make the team, but I made it. Switching over to defense and I began to learn the defensive side of the ball and so three years later, I'm a coach with the Steelers. Coach. You played with the Steelers, and you mentioned that might have been the most talented team in NFL history when you look at it. They got two wide receivers that's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, the running back, the quarterback, the center. You got Mel Blunt, Jack Hamm, Jack Lambert, Joe green LC Greenwood could easily be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Donnie Shell, who I know you're very close with, just made the Pro Football Hall of Fame. You're talking about nine ten guys in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, your head coach, and your owners in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Unbelievable team. And it starts. You mentioned the owner, Art Runney Senior. That's where it started. He and his son Dan Rooney put together an organization. This is how we're gonna be. We're gonna be first class, we're gonna be family atmosphere, and we're gonna find good players. Nineteen sixty nine they hired Chuck Nol. But in nineteen sixty nine they also did something that was kind of unheard of at the time. There was a sportswriter for the black newspaper, the Pittsburgh Courier that they hired Bill Nunn. They hired him as a scout, and so all of a sudden, he's going to Alabama and m and he's going to Florida and he's going to Southern and Savannah State, Yes, yep. And so all of a sudden, we've got these guys Frank Lewis and Glenn Edwards and Mel Blunt and Donnie Shell and John Stalwart that people weren't looking at at the time. So now you get a great coach and you supply this extra injection of talent, and coach Nol put it together and it was a great atmosphere, It really was. And I learned a lot about being a man. I learned about football, and I learned about how to really embrace the city. And that's that's what mister Rooney said when you came there. Hey, you're a Pittsburgh Steeler, but it's not just on the football field. You're a Pittsburgher all the way. And you got to embrace the city. And I learned so much in that organization culture. You're surprised you got traded because you led the team in interceptions. I mean six interceptions most time, we'll get you to the Pro Bowl. I was shocked. Yeah, really, We're coming off of Super Bowl. I'd led the team and interceptions. We had a lot of chemistry, but we just had so many good players then, and we drafted a couple of corners, and Coach Nole just felt like, you know, I can use some of these corners and we'll be better off. So it was one of those things. But again I always looked at it like I think it was the Lord kind of taking me out of my comfort zone, put me in a place where I could learn a little bit more, because eventually I was going to be a coach. I was never gonna be a great player. But going through that San Francisco situation and learning how Eddie de Barlow built a winning organization and Bill Walsh winning situation, it really helped me down the road. Coach you beat. I mean, there was something about the matchup between the Steelers and the Cowboys, and it might have been a couple of years earlier. With this it was the greatest collection of talent, if I'm not mistaken. It was about seventy sixteen or seventeen. Hall of famers on the field at a given time, and there haven't been that many before or since. What was like to be on the field and you're playing the Cowboys with that star study, you got Roger Stallback, you got Tony Door said, you got all those you know, uh, Tony Hill, Drew Pearson. I mean they're loaded on offense and defense as well. You guys are, Yeah, no, we It was one of those just unbelievable situations where you kind of know it's gonna come down to that, and we're gonna play these guys, and neither side was intimidated, and you knew they were gonna be great games. And we enjoyed playing against them. They enjoyed playing against us, And yeah, you're right. You're out there and it's it's Mel Blunt covering Drew Pearson, and it's you know, Randy White going against John Cole and it's one, yeah, one after another after another. And Tony Door said, running inside against Jack Lambert and it was just when I wasn't in the game, I was just right on what is happening out there, and it was It was fascinating. But it was two teams that really believed in themselves and believed in their style of play and there was great players all over the field. You know what to do. Get the subscribe button to become an official member of Club Sha Sha where we always do something for two something