Club Shay Shay hits the road! Shannon heads over to the world famous Gold's Gym near the Venice Boardwalk to workout with seven-time Mr. Olympia winner, Phil Heath. Listen in as Shannon sits down with Phil to talk about the bodybuilder's career, workout regimen and how professional athletes maintain their fitness. Afterwards, head on over to Club Shay Shay's official YouTube page to check out Shannon's full workout with Phil Heath!
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You got all these shredded on bleeds, all that stuff. Man, what you be doing? Man? Look at that man? You got a leg out and then then all shit all See, I'm done all my life and grinding all my life. Sacrifice, hustle, bad pricing, Want a slice? Got the bron dice to swad all my life. I've been grinding all my life all my life, been running all my life, sacrifice, hustle, bag to pricing, Want a slice, got the dice to swath all my life. I've been grinding all my life. Feel thanks for the workout. I really appreciate that. I mean, I've heard of football players becoming professional bodybuilders, police officer forming police officers becoming bodybuilders, but basketball players. How Why did you want to become a professional bodybuilder? Primarily because I needed a new challenge right and I had to acknowledge at some point in time and playing basketball and card getting not getting to burn that I wanted that those hoop dreams are gonna come to an end pretty soon. And fortunately I had a friend that was already competing amateur and I was able to go to a competitions next year. You know, I have a guest poser there and saying that I should try it, right, So I say, Okay, what the heck, what's the worst thing that can happen if I try to do bodyguard. I'm gonna get in shape, right, Cool, I'm just gonna get in shape, right. And I thought, well, maybe I can get in one of these men's health magazines and stuff, because I thought I was being real man light skiing green eyes with a little bit of muscles. I might be able to make it work. Yeah. So I started doing it, and next ye you know, I was very blessed making a career. You're from Seattle, you grew up with Jamal Crawford, Nate Burrows and Corey Dialon, Jason Terry. You got a basketball scholarship to the University of Denver, so obviously, and I tell people this all the time. If you play high school sport, you have aspirations normally to go into college. And if you played college sport, you probably want to play professional sports. Correct. When did you realize that? You know what I think, giving my height and given the situations, I don't really think I'm gonna be able to play at the NBA. The sophomore year. Sophomore year, I started seeing that transition happened. We had a couple of new guys come in and a couple of Drew Cold transfers this and now, and I'm like this, and then the writings on the wall with the playing time right, when your minutes go down and your production isn't the same, and no, not getting the game reps right. The coach is making the decision right. And as much as I want to fight that and work harder and ask more questions of coach, what do I need to do? I was that guy, what do I need to do? What do I need to do? And I would do it and still didn't work out. I had to recognize that this is the team, not Phil Heats. You know team right, And I will say or coach didn't get fired at junior years, so I was like, well, maybe he was wrong, maybe I should have played. But at that point, new coaching staff come in my senior year, and what helped me make the transition was that coach was routing ly honest. He said, you know what, I don't know what happened, but if it were me and your freshman year, you would have already been doing X, Y Z for me. What I need you to do is be a leader to these younger people. You're a senior, you are groomed, you understand. Film helped me out, and I will make sure that you graduate. Where there's four years, five years, you want to be a grand assistant, I'll help you get a coaching gig. And I thought, okay, what's your alternative. Well, he said, I'll make it life. Hell, I said, I'm choosing option one. That's gonna make that happen. And I'll be honest, you know, comparing myself to people like Jamal, you know, you know other guys with Jet and everybody else. That was tough seeing you see them make it. You played against them, Yeah, you think, well why not me? And I didn't let my height be something because I thought, well, I had a forty years vertical I was. I was an athlete, but I had to be real. I had to be real and that that was very depressing at one moment. But you know, God makes no mistakes, man. So I thought, well, let's just see what happens if I close that door, because it's definitely gonna close. That's accepting to move on, Like I said, bodybuilding opened up, and man, I trust me I didn't know I was gonna make a profession out of it going in. I just knew that it was gonna help me deal with the depression that I had not making it to the league for let alone going overseas. And like I said, I had to make a conscious effort of saying, what's the best case scenario for me? That would have been, Okay, Phil, you're gonna go play ball overseas. Let's say five years now, I'm twenty seven years old. Twenty eight years old with no job experience. Why did I get these two degrees? For now? The people that I graduated college with are gonna be my boss when I should know. No, there's more millionaires at Microsoft than there are, you know, in the NBA. At the time, and that was when the glea was going on. I said, this ain't gonna work, man, right, this, this ain't gonna work. You were a shooting guard, who would you compare your game too? D Fish? Derek Fisher? Okay? All my homies was to be like, that's d Fish right there? Man, Like uh, playing with a with a pro in high school with Jamal of course he's getting them off of you. And I'd be left wide open. I knocked down the jumper because I knew wouldn't getting that ball back if I didn't, so I made sure that I could protect the ball. I was a really good defender. I was very strong. I could pass well, and I could get defenders off of me with you know, my handle was good. It wasn't spectacular, but it was good enough to not turn the ball over and run the offense. And I wasn't never a liability on defense, right, So that's what where my game was. You're the only Eggs basketball player that I know that turned bodybuilder professional bodybuilders? Do you think any other basketball players who do you think would make a great bodybuilder? Man? Nate Robinson would have been dope when he was That would have been easy for him. Right, current guys Dame Dollar could do it. I think, you know, some of the guys are too tall. I believe you know, majority of him are too tall. Yeah, they didn't have to be. Yeah, majority of him are too tall. But I would say, you know, I always thought, like back when Tony Allen was playing, he was he was a specimen. I could do it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know there were some guys back in the day like you know Kevin Willison, David your shoulders and yeah, what Cam still works out like that? Uh, he's in Atlanta. You know, Shaq is really strong. I don't know. I don't think Shack could be a bodybuilder. He's just too tall. Yeah, he's strong. He could put easily put muscle on. Yep. You hear these stories about Will Chamberlain and about how strong he was. We know he was a great athlete. Yes, he ran track in college. He high jumped, he long jumped, he ran to Open four. Do you think he well, he's too tall to be a bodybuilder. But what have you heard about Will? Because I think Will I actually, as a matter of fact, before he passed, I was out here and I saw him passed right by this very street that goes gems On and uh threw my hand up. He waved back. Yeah. But do you think guys like that? Because I'm thinking in my mind, I'm like, Okay, if you're a professional athlete, obviously you got disciplined. Yes, obviously you know what sacrifice two of the major things that you have to have to be a professional bodybuild. Will would have been dope just to see I would have loved to just see him try because you know me growing up watching him in those Conan movies, right, I mean you know he was still built. Yeah he was. You know, back to other athletes, maybe not in basketball, but like what about football player? What football players? You say, Kwan all Days could easily do it those legs that everybody fonds over and stuff. I mean Adrian Peterson for sure, Leon Bell, no question, DK Come on, He's the only told dude that could probably easily do with right, like with ease. Uh you know obviously I come from the air like growing up seeing Adon Sanders, you could have done it for sure, bow Jackson for sure, Herschel. I mean, come on, man, you because now they have different categories now, so like where you may not do open class behind ye want to do the bos or something. I want to do the board shown. You could do that, Yeah, Chandy, you can actually you could do that. Now I can do the boy shorts, let me do I can do the board shorts. Yeah, we can do that. Uh do you train? Do you train athletes? Do you want to get that? You know, train for training other professional athletes like basketball players, football players. Uh. The the issue I have with that is the ego with their crew. It's the crew that want to dictate what they do, and I don't want to disrupt anything they have going on. Now. I have some friends and you know in NFL, MLB, this and that that of DN me, Hey, what do you think of this? This and this? I'm there for them. You know. One of my really good friends is Tim Grover. We talk you talk to some of his clients as well. Yes, would I want to do that. I believe the person has to be extremely culturable. And I'm not saying this for from an egotistical standpoint. They would have to come to me. I'm a man of service. So if they say, hey, Phil, like, this is what I'm thinking, or if they let's say they were getting ready for a photoshoot for a magazine, you know, digital magazine or something, this is what I've been told. What do you think? Where can I meet you? Fine? I got you. But yeah, to say that's what I'm gonna do now, no, because the egos man like, I'm gonna deal with some egos, and I don't know how they're going to accept the diet as well and then not party in anymore. Because look, we already know the stuff that you guys talk about on your show, these guys go out and it's hard, you know. I've talked to different rappers and entertainers and stuff. I'll give them the diet, it's on them the train, but then I see on the IG they're out three four in the morning. Right, So it's a waste of my time. And I don't like waste of my time. Yeah, but I think it's it would be really hard for you, someone that's so focused and to because people won't inst the gratification they want. You give them a program, you train them and in two weeks, but I don't. I don't see any different, right, And then they got their friends telling them all, you don't need that you do this, and I'm like, really it takes time, brother, Like let's let's let's think about this. But what I will say is more athletes who are now retired have come forward because they want to maintain and they recognize that hey, I played football, I played baseball, I'm interested in just getting healthier. This is what I heard. What do you think? And I'm like, yeah, I can be your consultant now. Yeah, how difficult is it to now that you're not competing competitively for you to maintain your weight, maintained like, Okay, he was a bodybuild. I can I can see even though he's not competing, I can see that he was a bodybuild. Yeah, souse. Do you see a lot of athletes football, fastball players and they just that's a lack of discipline. I think I think they also put their identity in just that sport. For me, yeah, I won seven mister Olympic titles. I'm I'm in my era. I'm definitely the goal in my era. I know that. But that's not who Pheil Heath is. Right, It's not gonna read on my headstone one day, Right, It's gonna read just my name and what my contributions are to the world. My biggest thing is I always want to live a healthy lifestyle. I want to I always would say I want to be the black Jack Lelane. I want to be able to do at all. Right, I want to show that just like I pivoted from basketball to bodybuilding, I should be able to lose weight, which I did. I lost thirty five pounds. I'm like two forty five, two fifty five that I say. And that's my comfort right now. If I wanted to do another show. I can easily blow up back up to two seventy five and then come back down if I want to. If I want to run a five k, that's one of my goals. I want to. Oh, I want to be able to do it by the time I turned fifteen years old. I'm forty two now. I want to be able to say I want to be able to run a five K. I want to be able to do different stuff. There's different feats of strength that I want to exhibit to show that I can do. I'm an athlete for the rest of my life. You know what. I was just thinking the guy that would probably be the best body builder of them all, of all the guys we mentioned, TiO. I think I think TiO. I think TiO has the best gifts. I think so too, and I know, given the right motivation, he would do the work. Yeah. Oh yeah, he very He's very motivated, very motivated. Chip on the shoulder. Ye, he'll do it. Yep, you know he's want Yeah, I didn't even think about that sport. Sorry, yeah, sorry about that too, But yeah, what about boxing? Mike Tyson Dean. I think Deantre Widder has at Walder with but so long he is long. Yeah, Tyson for sure, easily, Yeah, Spence maybe, Roy Roy Hagler easily. Haggler for sure. He was one of my favorites. Uh, because he was just thick, right, you know, I'm trying to think of some other cats man Like it's that's tough because you don't have to be shredded to box. But I for a Vander yes for sure. Yeah, because he had those round deals. I mean he was and he you could tell that he was strong. Yes, you could tell he was. He worked out me Lee Lee Lee Haney trained it for a while and then he got too bustle about it. He needed to get away from that type of training. Yeah, who's your favorite team? When you watch sport football? Who's your favorite football team? You know? It just happened this last week with Seattle and Denver Man. I'm from Seattle. I got a root for both. I'm fortunate that they're not playing in the same you know conference, I know, and being from Seattle watching our bus get whooped every time, I mean we didn't have a squat at all. So it was great for me. It was great to move to Colorado and see you win a Super Bowl and then still live there and see another Super Bowl and then see Seattle win one. I'm happy those are my teams. Like I always tell myself, you're born in one, you resided in one, you can have to as long as they're not in the same conference, I can pick them. But I've met so many of these athletes from different teams. I root for the individuals NonStop. You know, I just want them to I want them all to win. I truly do, and I want them to do it the right way and stay healthy as much as they can. You know, we want them to take care of their bodies, especially the off season, you know, more and less time on the social media's right. Yeah? What about basketball? Who's your team? Who's your player? Oh? My gosh, all time or just now now now? Oh now, that's tough, man, because I love Lebron man, He's dope. I've always been a Laker fan, even though growing up Seattle. But they took my team away. So you know, they took my team away. I'd say Lebron, But then also I like Dame Dollar Man. Yeah, he's a dog bro. Like he's sticking with Portland, Like that's the closest team from my hometown that I can rock with. You know, I had season taken for the Nugget for the years, so I got to see a lot of good players. But I respect the champions. I respect, you know, guys like Greek Freak, you know K D. Lebron. These are guys that I mean god given talent. Steph Curry for sure. I mean I've been fortunate to see his game evolved because I'm old enough to say it. He's not a defensive liability. He shows so much confidence and in fact, he's made more people believe in themselves for shooting that jump shot as far as he can. So I mean those are like guys that I that I paid a watch the all time favorite players who Jordan or all time? I mean, for me, it's it's I was, yeah, never thought of seeing. I was able to see him, yeah, play against the Sonics one time. My stepdad had tickets and I got to see. It's like my jaw drop. I mean, it's just incredible. You know, maybe young kids don't know, but like it was, it was just an era yea. And what I loved about Jordan is that he prevented epic guys from getting a title. Epic guys, he shut it down any but number my one, that's my one, A my one bs COVID. Yeah, because just the like fearless. Yeah, he's fearless, Like he's like no and you knew it. Like ultimate competitor, Ultimate competitor. I just love high competitive people that will that will put it on the line all the time and tell you what they're gonna do and they do it. Feel all my life and running all my life. Sacrifice Hustle Bay the Price, Wanna Slice? Got the roller Diceess why all my life? I've been running all my life, all my life and running all my life? Sacrifice Hustle Bay, the Price, Wanna Slice, Got the rolling dice? Thats whait all my life? I've been running all my life.