Club Shay ShayFat Joe starts Part 2 by criticizing J. Cole for not responding to the beef aimed at him revolving around the Drake vs Kendrick feud, saying he would have responded himself. Joe calls DJ Khaled his angel, supporting Khaled's message about spreading love and positivity. Joe shares a personal story about talking his friend out of suicide after his wife cheated on him, noting that trusting in God saved the man’s life. He mentions how his friends like DJ Khaled and Pitbull often catch beef because of their association with him. Then, Joe reflects on the best and worst parts of having money.
He mentions using Ozempic for diabetes, which he’s had since he was 13, and how Big Pun’s death motivated him to work out so intensely that he reversed his diabetes. Joe proudly talks about being married for 30 years, and how his wife held him down while he was in prison. He explains how they’ve stayed together through thick and thin. Joe discusses his son, who has autism and Down syndrome, and how initially he wasn’t ready to be a father. Joe calls his son his biggest blessing.
Joe talks about his love for graffiti, admitting he’s “addicted” to it. He explains why he became politically active, noting how it’s alienated parts of his audience but emphasizing the importance of his work regarding issues like healthcare transparency. Joe says nobody has been to Africa more than him and shares a stressful story about an African warlord not letting him leave Angola. Joe reflects on how Atlanta has replaced New York as the capital of hip hop. He recalls almost getting into a fight with Roy Jones Jr. over his lyrics. Joe tells a wild story about nearly beating someone up with Mike Tyson and Big Pun at the craziest club in New York.
As the episode draws to a close, Fat Joe talks about his close relationship with Jennifer Lopez. He declares that women in Atlanta are running hip hop. Joe reveals that Eminem once wanted him to sign him and mentions that he also missed the opportunity to sign Pitbull and Rick Ross. He explains how the Black and Brown communities can come together. The episode concludes with Fat Joe flipping the script and asking Shannon a question back. In this episode, Fat Joe offers insight, laughter, and reflection, showcasing the highs and lows of his career and personal life, leaving viewers with a deeper understanding of the legendary rapper’s journey and mindset.
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You mentioned earlier that when you get called to the yard, if you're in that situation, they call you to the yard. So in the situation where you got, you know, mike battle going on and somebody say bring your mike to the studio, you got to go. Yes, sir, you said you didn't like that. Jay Cole didn't respond. Would would Joe have responded?
Million?
I set myself up on verses, So I did verses. I knew Jau would win. It's my brother. I love him at death. So they was like, yo, Joe, I could have picked a less opponent. It was on me. So they was like, yo, Joe, you super viral. We want you to do verses. Then they told me, Yo, I know I negotiated a huge bag. I'm gonna be honest with you to do versus. And then Swiss b told me, whoever you pick, get the same bag that you got. Wow. So I got on the phone called Jarru so fast because that's my brother. I love Jairou to death and I.
Was like, yo Ji. He was like, nah, I don't want to go against you. Joe.
I said no, it ain't like bro you're gonna get the bag. Yeah right, and ja ru he got forty number ones. Like I knew that boy was gonna go crazy at that, but it didn't matter to me. You know, he's my brother. I wanted him to get the bag. I wanted him to get to shine Joe.
That's real. That's real to a lot of people.
Would have done that because a lot of times I want to be in a situation I want to shine. I want to win, and you hold on, I would rather win than have somebody get equal bag.
Yeah, but nah, that's not me. You're real with for that.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not like that. For me, I wanted to see my brother come back. I wanted him to get the spot, Like why do that? Oh why even feel good spanking up some other rappers that I knew only had two or three hits and just start spanking them up on there, and y'all have been like, ah, this is wag, right, you know what it was, dope, It's like Fat Joe been winning for so long and then joh Ruin.
You know, it was like it was I have to get back out there. Yeah yeah, we went back out there.
Job was doing all his hits and you know, every time I looked at his wife, I told her sorry, you know what I mean, because I loved Job.
I love his whole family, So you know that. To me, that's what it's about. Ross got involved in the Best and the Beef also, and I was surprised because I'm like, damn, Ross, y'all young money, I mean, you Drake y'all.
I'm like, I can't never even talked to Ross about that. Really can't respond, you know what I'm saying. You know, I love Ross. I don't know one day he gonna have to tell us what that was about.
I sat down with cal It about seven months ago, maybe even last year, and Cale It is so positive. Call It ain't gonna say nothing about Nobody's like, bro, there's so much there's so much food for everybody to eat. Ain't no sense in us fighting over more sols because they're so it's so plentiful. Where did you and CALLI get that mind set from that? You're like, you know what, I ain't got to talk about about nobody. Let's talk about what we can do together.
Well, you don't tell us like an angel to me, you know what I'm saying, He's my angel. And he protects me because he talked me off the cliff my whole life. I could have been in jail a thousand years. I could have been fucked up. Calib was always the last yoe. Hear me out before you go do that. We talk to you, let me this. So he's like my angel. He been protecting me forever before he was as successful as he is. But he's absolutely correct. You gotta understand that. Man, we ain't got no time. We got time for family, We got time for for love and respect. We ain't got no time to be fighting with people and doing all that. That ain't about the money, it ain't about positivity. And God has chosen us to deliver that message of believing and being faithful at all times. And so you got to understand me and we children of God, and were telling everybody out there. You might have tried to rob people, you might have tried shooting people, you might.
Have tried this.
Try God, because that's the real key. I'm mean here telling you, can you hear me? Can you feel me? In real time? Try God? We God, you can't lose. And if you're faithful and you show them that you believed, it, no matter what No matter what hard time, somebody gets sick in your family, divorce, this, whatever you name it. You stay loyal to God. He gonna bless you like you never saw it before. I had a friend he had a beautiful wife. They called me one day and they said, Yo, can you come over there talk to him because his wife left him, She cheated on him, She left him, and he gonna kill himself and sea. I went over there and I talked to him that, you know, I gave him the toy, like, yo, bro, you are who you are. She's it's cool, let her go.
You you the man. You know. I did whatever I could.
Right. I seen him like a year later, and I was like, Yo, man, how you been. He was like, Yo, I got a fiance, beautiful Dominican chick. She's actually a pastor. She don't want to go out Joe. She stays home with me. She loves like this. And I looked at him. I say, Yo, bro, that's God. You know what I'm saying. You went and got you a batter chick. Positive don't want to be in the club. She's actually a pastor of a church. I'm like, yo, bro, Like it's always better for you and greater for you when you trust in God.
Because you and Callid is so close.
Did sometimes your beef interfere with his potential collabse with someone I.
Wouldn't say collapse when he got caught up in the beefs So the first time I have that's one the first time because I have mad beef. So the first time I ever flew, I was afraid to fly. Wouldn't fly for a million dollars. He was like, Yo, we went to you a million dollars to come in South Africa and I was like, YO, I'm sorry, keep your money.
I can't go. I was terrified to fly.
And Caleb was at a seminar in Puerto Rico and he bumped into some guys that had beef with and they were gonna take it out of him. So the whole industry's calling me and they're like, yo, your man out here by himself, like and you know they're gonna do it to him. They're gonna hurt him. Oh, And that's the first time I flew. I got into private plane that went out to Puerto Rico and pulled up like YO, suck.
And that's when they was like, Yo, this guy's flying.
I flew because of him, you know, cause he was like, Yo, they're gonna do me dirty out here, and so I went over there and I flew over there.
So it's like he got caught up in a lot of my shit, you know what I mean. And what's crazy.
Is he's always been positive, He's always been the same person, and then Fat Joe just been on some shit and he just always get.
Caught up and be like, you know, he tell them.
I had a couple of friends that you know, pit bull one day, you know what I'm saying, seeing one of my enemies, and they was like, yo, what's up?
And he was like, Yo, I can't say what's up? Man?
You got beef with the dawn.
Yo.
All these nice guys kept catching beef over me because they was lawyer to me, Norie, all of them, like, you know you lawyer to Joe or Joe got beef with everybody? You going the wrong club? The guy he got beef, he got thirty guys there. You not coming back telling Joe you had a drink with him. You're telling Joe Yo. I said fuck that. I'm not giving you my hand. I'm down with Joe. But guess why all my friends are lawyer to each other. We've been friends for over twenty years. We root for each other, were happy for each other. Everybody's doing great, like that's what it's about at the end of the day. It's loyalty and everybody doing great financially, you name it.
They all winning. Everybody's winning.
Cally told the story that you had be with fifty, Yaloe with fifty and YAlO within with.
This guy gets to it right. He don't let you, he don't let you cut out. I try to do the nice way out. Yeah, hey, YAlO would up doing it. I think it was whether radio station or radio station.
And he's you know what.
I say all the time, I'll trade rich player in my right hand man for Tony ye Yo.
I'll give rich player to gun give me Tony ya Yo. Let him. You tell us that's one lawd you motherfucker that Tony ye Yo.
Oh my god, he's with his man for real, like you know, and uh uh, I don't want to say this to you, yo, but you know, if we ever really had beef, we was gonna go after yo yo. Because he was the loudest mouth, he was the wild boy. He was the one dissing us at the highest level. And I was just like, yo, I gotta get this guy right here, he's the one. And so yeah, CALLI was like, yo, I can't say what's.
Up to you?
Like, you know, I'm with you, do it, kenthy, No, I can't do it. I'm with Yoe with all the positivity and all that. And then something, you know, it got real in there. Yeah, no, not really real. We leave it at that, but it got real, like it like life or death.
Real. You gona have to make another flight, you take another trip.
Nah, but my man's was dead. They you know, it got real, like really really real. Maybe yay, Yo will tell the old story, but it got really real.
Right.
You see, guys like Scott Storage have all this money. I mean, he was as big as far as I mean could I think for a period of time he was like on the level of Drake. I mean who Drake Scott Storage doctor d Yeah, even bigger at one time.
Yeah.
And how how you go through the bag like that?
You use a lot of drugs, like and he admits it. This ain't me talking to me on his back. Drugs fucked him up. Uh. You know what's crazy? He is in this hip hop game, fat Yo really is the dog. What I mean to tell you is people don't disrespect me and do crazy shit in front of me. So whenever I went to hang out with Scott Storts because he's my brother, they wouldn't use no drugs. They wouldn't sniff no cocaine, they wouldn't do nothing. Scott Storch told me that the second I would walk out that door, a kelo on cocaine to come running through the door in the air like it was raining coke.
Yo.
He said, Yo, I would never use drugs in front of you. He fucked up ninety million. And he also was very generous with women. So I remember one time I walked in a strip club in Houston and this redbone chick came up to me.
She was like, your brother, your brother. She had a rock so.
Fucking big shit looked like this cop stripping And I said, what said? May your brother gave me this? I was like, man, I was about to rob this girl. I'm sitting there, SI shit, this guy right here and to women, he was just awfully generous. So he was buying girls Rose Rooices Bentley. I watched him one time buy a two million dollar car. He used to have this briefcase with Scott Sorts was at his prime, a prime. He used to have a briefcase and he would have money in there, jewelry, weed. And one day somebody came and he was making a beat.
He really makes his beat.
He's so talented, right, So man comes, he signs the check for two million dollars. This shit really happened in my face and he gives it to me. He didn't even look it him. Was like all right, man, this, this, that, And then the dude told us like, yo, I've never seen a guy ride a two million dollar check and didn't even look at you.
It just and I was like boom. And then when we went outside it was.
Like for Bogotti, the first Bugatti or one of the for Ribbies that you never seen in your life. Man ain't even look at the man, signed two million, gave it to him, came outside the joint. Was there you talking about that level? But you gotta understand, right, I don't use yours. I never used drugs because I might like it. I might like it. And so what I mean is Scott Storch, he had two of the most famous women in the world at the same time. They was gonna monage him. One through the cocaine on the girl and it was like, yo, you want to get the thing going. I mean the most famous girls on earth. And he sniffed that cocaine off her shit, and he said the second he sniffed that, it was never the same. He was just like, oh my God, like this is the greatest shit in the world. And he wound up fucking this whole life up with that. And sometimes when you get high, a friend of y'all of yours might have more tolerant we call those like functioning addicts. They could get high on Friday and Saturday, but Monday through Friday they working. But you might take it the wrong way and sell all your shit and be fucked up. So you know, drugs is just so powerful destroy my brother, my brother that I look up to, my idol, my brother, and you he had the whole world in his hands. He was so smart, my idol. And when I seen that he couldn't beat it, and we put them in a million rehabs and all that, I knew that we up against a deadly day. And these kids, now they're taking this fentanyl fentanyl. You could touch it and die. Yeah, you don't even got to get high. Now you could touch me, and you could touch Fenton Oba misteak. We could think of some sugar or splendor and die. That's how powerful that shit is. And so you know, I would advise everybody, hmm, if you're gonna do something, smoke a.
Little weed, drink your little liquor. But don't go there at the point of the return.
Huh. Don't go there, man, because you might like it. I tell people all the time, you might like the ship Joe.
Is there a best and a worse thing about having money or they're all positive?
Nah, it's gotta be bad, you know what I mean. See, money makes people think they tough. So you got some straight suckers to give money in all of a sudden, they think they tough and they acted. You see these movies. What the fuck Caltos Way Kleinsfield, lawyer, fucking Kleinsfeld thought he was tough. He had money. So money gets some people big egos. Money makes people think they're better than everybody. Money makes people think they got god like tendencies, that they are God on the earth. And money could also do so much good when you take care of people in the community, when you when when when you're raising money to take care of the less four, when you're giving back to the schools, you give back to the to the to the people you know, and also live the life that you deserve to live. You know, my mentor Jr. Righting Good taught me that financial freedom it's the biggest thing you can have in the world. It gives you time with your family, It gives you access to whatever you want to do. At the same time, why live in this world as a mediocre life when you can go for it? You know, the projects, the welfare that's all trapped, they made that for temporary. You're going through a bad time, go on there for a year, get not against you, get the ship ready and go see me. I think fifty definitely, jay Z. We all grew up in the projects and in welfare. So the thing your grandmother used to think, I only pay one hundred dollars rent. I don't want to move. But hey, guess what now you can't even have a husband in the house because the projects say you can't have a husband. So that destroys the family. Right.
Then you're so brilliant. Think of jay Z. We look at this guy like billionaire.
You know, this guy, if he would have played the projects in the welfare shit, we would have never knew how great he was. So they eliminate you as competition in that, in the project and welfare system. So you got to get yourself up out of that shit so you could go and get whatever's destined for you.
You got the name fat Joe because obviously you probably whether chubby kid.
Big You ain't you ain't really fat no more, Joe, Thank god.
You know what I'm saying. Because I'm trying to live. Man, it's a cold world. It's so I'm trying to live. I taught myself how to eat better. I used to exercise more than I do now, you know, because you know I was like.
Four hundred and eighty pounds.
What for eighty bro big Boy and big Perma six hundred Joe.
But ye, I can see if you fall.
I am smaller because I'm next to big Pole. But I'm saying, Joe, if you were six four.
The big Mac look smaller next to the god double wer. You know what I'm saying. The big Mac looks smaller next cit the double whopper. But Joe, I can see if you like six five sixty six sixty seven, but for eighty on somebody your frame, Joe Hannon, let me tell you.
So we used to go to the All you Can Eat and we almost went to jail at an All you can Eat. We ate too much at All you Can Eat. I swear to God this is a fact. They they brought the cops in Homeboy came with the boots up to here. Looked like Gompa was like yo, I said, yo, with some matter. He was like, come on, bro, y'all, ain't all the crab all the shit like you got?
I say, yo, you know what you right?
Because we go in there and kill him and I don't get ht. So oh my guys a hide right. So they got the munchies. They destroying the sizzler. It's over for chorl What the ship they got go to career, it's over, like over, we're killing that ship.
Now. I eat defensively.
Now I stay away from the carbs, the bread, the pasta, the thing. Like everything I eat is defensive. I eat defensively, you know, trying to stick around.
You are a Halloween costume where you had zipizemp.
Yeah, I'm on ozempic. I'm diabetic, So I take away that way. You have a reason. You didn't do it just to lose weight. You did it the main thing.
Yeah, that's medicine. It's actually a medicine. Ship, Yes, I know what. You know. Everybody else took it to lose weight. It's a medicine, you know, to regulate my bloodshed. Yes, so I take it for that, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I was definitely o zempich for Halloween, a proud old zempiing.
Yeah. I was like this, you see me.
I even had the needle on the top, Like, yo.
How long have you been a diabetic? My whole life? Since I've been like thirteen? Really?
Yeah, I was a diabetic since I was like thirteen. When did you decide to you know what, man, I might not make it to twenty. I might not make it the twenty five, might not make it the thirty.
I did get my life, but the problem was dead in the hood. They never even told me that if you lose weight the diabetes can go away. So at one point after pun died, I was working out two to three times. I was doing two a day's three of days insane working working out.
Shout out my man and mom. Muscle connection. And so we working, picking up.
The tires, all the shit, you doing crazy shit, this, this that. And then one day I walked into the hospital and I went to see my doctor. He was like, yo, you ain't got to take insulin no more. I said what he was like, Nah, you ain't got diabetes no more.
Good to go, you good to go. I walked out of there so strange.
I've been using insolence so long that when I walked out of there, I was like, yo, oh, I got to take my end. And he was like, nah, bro, you've been working out, you've been eating right, you've been doing the right thing.
You ain't got to take that no more.
And then eventually, maybe like ten years later, he was like, all right, now you got to take a little old zampic. You know, you ain't working out two three times a day, so you gotta, you know, regulate your sugars.
Joe, you've been married almost thirty years.
I remember that ass still fat dog yah yah God ass step fat no boy.
Let me tell you something, man, God damn.
You know when you told the story uh, that when you went away for the tax evasion. Yeah, she held it down and you said whatever whatever.
Mama won't. But it always been like that, you know what I'm saying. So you know, when I met.
Her, she was too beautiful to even be with fat Fat Joe, and all.
Friends made fun of her. You know, it was like what you're doing with that boy?
You know, because I ain't had no When I met her, I had just broke up with my son's mother. She took everything. I had an apartment, but she took the pictures of the dog, of like.
Every bed, every couch.
So when I met my wife, she walked in, it was just a mattress on the floor.
Literally, the window ain't had no curtain.
It was like a ten X robe I had, and I stapled this shit up on the window to get no shade. And so she walked in. And when she walked in, she said, you live here? I said, man, it's a long story.
I said.
They used to have a leather sofa there. They had a big TV over here. The sound system was so nice in you to heard it over there. I mean they took it off right, and they left me a mattress. And she took a chance with me, and from that point on, I knew if I make it, which I knew I was gonna make it. To be honest with you, whether music, whether whatever. You know, everybody who wins. You could be Louis the mechanic, You could be a Baker school teacher. We all have this winning DNA. You have a winning DNA. You knew you was gonna make it. You didn't know how, You didn't know if it was football. Football ended. You got back on that bike and said, fuck that, I'm podcasting and you winning at this The winning DNA is in certain people that they're gonna find a way to win no matter what.
And so I give her whatever the else she won. You know, that's her.
My whole family lives like that. My whole family went for nothing. My mother's house. She got three people that worked there. She waits up, they cooked, they clean, they.
You know it.
Just if I love you, you straight. That's just the way this works. How did you know she was the one?
She was bad man?
And at that time, they didn't have the BBLS, they ain't had none of that, and she just had that whole thing, and she was beautiful. I couldn't believe. At first, I thought she was the Fed. She was so bad, I said, Dad, they try to get they do bad. They do you seeing ghosts. When he was with the with the FAEDI I thought she was a Fed at first, till I found out her father was a connect. He was he was a d boy. So when I'm mad him, I said, oh no, no, she ain't the fast. But you know, I think you always tell yourself you know who's the one, and you say, no, matter what, We're gonna figure this out through thinking things. Because we had moments where I thought I was the illess. We have moments where she thought she was the illness. You know, everybody coming at you. You know, I become a famous you know, famous and rich, you know, and so woman that beyond your wildest dreams is throwing themselves at you, you know, and they telling you y'all get rid of her. Like you know, me and you we could be the Jay and Beyonce. We could be the j Low and Benning. Yeah, you know, we imagine you got with me, Poppy, we make a movie on that red carp and I'd be like, naw, you know what, I'm all right, I'm good.
We make our own movies. Don't worry about that. But I did that.
That fake shit, you know what I'm saying. And so you know you gotta be careful. Your son has autism.
Yeah, down syndrome and autism, yes, sir, a little Joey when he was born. First of all, me and his mother wasn't together, but we were together, broke up. I knew I did not want to be with this woman. Just before a rap, I me at my mother's house. Is one of them rainy days, them days that you know it's rainy, and she walk in the building. I said, fuck it, let's go kind to an old flame. She gets pregnant with no disrespect. Because I love my son Joey. Let her know I do not want to be with you.
Maybe we should have this abortion because I don't want to shoot.
Oh, this is my baby. I gotta have it this you know, it's really up to the woman. So she pretty much forces me to have this baby. I'm only like nineteen. And when he's born, the doctor tells us, hey, I got bad news to tell you, and show us his hands and he say he got down syndrome. He's gonna be a big challenge. I'm there with my mother, my father, and his mother, and his mother was like, yo, I can't do this. I'm gonna have to give him up for adoption. And my mother was like, you crazy bitch, like you ain't giving up my fucking like And so we raised him and he's had his challenges.
But you see my son.
I don't know if all kids that are autistic or on the spectrum, this guy's happy.
Swin of God. He's always happy. He's never sad.
He's like if you're stuck in the place, he's stuck in happiness. And he's never he slept one minute of his life without somebody sitting there just looking at him. He doesn't sleep without one person without someone sitting there looking at him. Like this his whole life, and he's happy. He does what he wants, he gets what he's wants. He's the dawn when we all meet his family. I got another son, I got my daughter that's younger than him, and he sits in the end of the table he knows, oh, those are my little brothers and sisters. You know, I'm the dawn, right, And so yeah, everybody has big challenges. It's hard, but you can't give up on your kids. And I believe, we believe.
You know, one of my best friends rich dead.
He's our biggest blessing because we treat him the way we do, because we never gave up on him. This is why we get blessed. And so I really wholeheartedly believe that.
Prior to him actually being born, you had no idea that he would he would be audience, he would have down Syndo. Because now they can do it, probably long time ago. They could do tests now and they can tell you the child is gonna be x y.
And z yo bro.
I never seen his mother again, is what I'm trying to tell you.
Is that so she dropped born. Yeah, she never visited him again. I'm not here to kick or was you know she never she abandoned a kid. Yeah, And so we raised him by ourselves. He don't know no other family. He don't know. It's not because we didn't allow that. His mom's just you know, is crazy.
Has she ever called dropped up with her?
She? I'm sure she's called my mother or my father, but that's as far as it goes. She has never seen him again. And you know, and it wasn't like I kept the door closed where she can't see her son, right, you know what I'm saying.
It was always available for her to see her son.
But you know, we got wicked people out there, whether man or female. You know, it's usually the other way around, you know, Baby, come our down, syndrome, the man run away? You know, shame on you. You know, father's got to be a father. I don't know how to be a fake father. I don't know how to be a fake father. So I got to take care of my kids regardless and do everything I can for them. You know, I don't know how to give up on my kids. I don't know how to not love on my kids. That's impossible.
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Is there something you really like doing?
Something I really like doing? Yes?
Really really?
I grew up you know, Terror Squad wasn't a gang. It was a graffiti cruth. So I love writing graffiti. Oh and so I wish that I could write on all the trains and not go to jail for it. So if I'm on the call of duty, I'm the guy writing graffiti, but I never want to go to jail for it. So sharn is something I really love to do is write graffiti. And if I could write graffiti on the train like a challenge. If you ever see Fat Joe get arrested, it's probably here to train in New York or something like I battle with Like I look at the trains, I'll be like, damn, I want to hit that. You know it's an addiction.
They can't catch it. Not Joe, you don't slam now you take a get up. I pay everybody.
Cop catch me. I'll be like, yo, take this man, let me alone. You ain't see me. Nah, it's crazy, Joe.
I've noticed over the last and maybe you were behind the scenes, but over the last let's just say five six, eight years, you become more active in the front politically. I see you are with a VP Maddal VP Kamala Harris and you for health care transparency your big advocate of that. What made you decide to like, you know what, I'm gonna get out there because a lot of people shy away from that because there are a lot of people.
I don't blame them. It's hard for celebrity. I never understood why celebrities never speak their mind, but now I do because you alienate. You know, the minute I go I'm for Carmela Harris or everybody who loves Trump is like, fuck you, fat Joe.
Just this that. No, it's real like that. It is.
It is so vice versa. If you for Trump, we hate you, right, it's so.
With me. Healthcare price transparency.
I got a friend named Kevin Moore with Power to the Patients, and he sat me down and tell me what was going on in America. There's over one hundred million people in America that are bankrupt due to healthcare prices. And so it's the only thing. You see this bottle, if I went to the liquor store, it would be this glass of water be eighty or two dollars, three dollars. You go to the hospital, it's the only place on the earth. They don't give you a bill. They just don't give you. Have you ever went to the hospital and you knew the bill, No, they sent it to you. So guess what you that day did a procedure that five other people did, and the price was different for all five people. Somebody paid sixteen thousand, somebody paid twelve thousands, somebody paid ten, somebody paid two. Somebody same doctors, same facility. They charge you whatever the hell they want, and so we just say, show us the prices. What will the prices do well? It will enable you to know where you could go to get it cheaper. Am I going to Beth Israel? Or am I going to General Hospital? Or am I going I'm going wherever? The Mr Riots twelve hundred instead of twelve thousand, correct, And so I became a big voice for that, which has been a hard thing to do because we keep going to Washington and trying to get it done, and it's been the hardest thing. It's been one of the biggest challenges of my life. But I love it. When I walk through the airport, random people come up to me and say, yo, Joe, thank you what you're doing, And I'm like thinking about music or whatever, and he's like, nah, man, well, the biggest thing you're doing is fighting for the people with the healthcare price transparency.
So I'm proud of what I'm doing, my work.
I'm doing what's Fat Joe most proud of of all the things that you've done in your life. You've been a husband, You've been a father, You've accomplished so much. What's some of the things Fat Joe's most part.
I just want to make my people proud. And I'm really black and brown, and so I love white people. I have beautiful white friends, but I'm really all about the black and brown. I got a TV show on Stars where Lebron James, executive producer, Mavverett Black and Brown. I just sold the series with me, Kenya Barris and Jesse and Uley to Railro Black and Brown. Everything I do is with the black and brown is showing that we could unite together and really.
Do it, not just talk about it right, but do it.
Also, just want to make my community proudly know that somebody could come from the trenches like I came from and actually lift themselves up and be successful. Also, at this point, were playing with agism. With this point, were saying, y'all, I'm getting to the bag better than ever, and I'm older than ever. You know, I'm hosting the bet Or Hip Hop Awards right now. I'm relevant. I got a song out blowing up, this, this, this, So I'm just letting you know that at any choice in life that you choose to say I'm gonna get on my ship and I'm gonna go get my bag, you could get it too.
That's what I'm most proud of. Joe.
Were you kidnapped in Africa? Well that sir, Yes, sir, yes, how about you have to give afore. Nobody been in Africa more than Fat Joe. Nobody and you keep going back nobody? Yeah, I kept going back, but that was just one part was it was in and I love you guys. Luanda and Gola, Africa, they had this warlord. His name is U Kenyo. Well Kenyo when the world when they stopped fighting the civil war, they made him the leader of tourism. So it's his job to bring people that ain't Gola. We don't know none of that shit. We get hired to go do a show for the most money I ever made in my life. I go over there to man, don't let us leave. So we're supposed to go for one show. We stuck over there for like two weeks. And this guy is so scary they won't look him in his eyes when they serve him. They go like this, The people there know who the hell he is. So a week later, the the embassy or the CIA or whoever you call it is sitting down because you eat and they got one good hotel, right, and so you eat like bouffet staff. They come over and they you know they you know, they the FETs. You look and they look different. They this and this and that. So they come out over and give me a card and they're like, yo, you all right? And I said, yeah, I'm all right. Why They was like, you know who you're with, right? They said, this guy just kidnapped DMX too. This guy kidnap people, you would a scary guy. I said, I'm figuring it out. He said, you call this number anytime. We'll come pick you up at the parking at the parking garage and go on. I'm like, you know, I'm too tough about it, so I ain't.
Want to let them know.
Yo, I'm really I'm ready to go, really fucking kidding that now, Like this guy's playing with me, like you know what I'm saying, and I'm tough, Shannon. I'm not scared of no man. I'm not scared of no man. I'm scared of God. Just don't know how to be scared of a man. You're gonna kill me, kill me, You're gonna beat me up, beat me up. So I had that Busta ROMs was in the Yo. Yo, this guy's talking.
To me like this, I'm not your bus. This got you know, it's got kill people out here.
We over here, man, We can't just chill take it easy bus, because Bus is one of them.
Like you know, Bus is a nice guy, but heapbo guy, you know what I mean.
So I'm talking them off the cliff like, yo, bus, like chill, like you know, we could get disappear in this motherfucker never make it better.
So how do you So he let you go? Eventually?
Yeah, he let us go, Like that's we'll talk like we eventually, like two weeks later, he let us go and we finally went home and I made more money than I ever made in my life. But it was real stressful, It really really stressful.
Has Atlanta replaced New York hip hop capital? We got yall, Joe? It's a big we got y'all joke. I ain't gonna say nothing. I've always been a supporter of Atlanta, you know, twenty years ago. I moved down to.
Miami and set up shop and always debate whether it should have been Atlanta because I love the ATF and all their contributions, Recipees week Away, from Goodie Mob up to Outcasts, up to the ti s, the g Z's Atlanta been running hip hop for the last ten years. So I'm man, that's hard for me to say it's they the capital, but they they've been running it for the last ten years. I'll give you that one.
I read that you was about to get in a fight with Roy Jones Union.
Oh yeah, you knew that story, right, No, what happens? You know?
I put him on a song where I say even Roy Jones was forced to lean back.
That's right after he got knocked out Antonio Tarbo.
Yeah. And so he came to New York City and we was having Jo Ru's release party. It was thousands. I had one hundred and fifty guys with me, shanting like I'm gonna be honest with you, and I come off stage and then and and when I open the thing, he's standing there, but nobody see him.
And he's there with like eight guys.
He got the one guy chopper style chop chop CHOPPI style. It's a chopp Pi style is telling him knock him out, Champ, knock him out, Champ, like, you know, he's his flavor flav right man like motherfucker. So the minute I see is Roy Jones, I grab his wrists. I grab his wrists, you know, and I'm up on him. I actually got my feet on his feet.
You know.
I know how to fight, but he was gonna knock me out. He's a chap, yeah, but I know how to fight. So I grab his wrists so he don't boom bing real real quick, and my weight is on his feet and so I'm like on him like this, and he's like, yo, what up with that song?
This?
And that?
He got the devil and his eyes. He came there for one and one reason only. He was gonna knock Fat Joe out in New York. No, it wouldn't nothing, knowing whatldn't right. But I gotta get out of this situation. Somebody, your champ, your champ. Let me that's just music, Champ, Chap. I'm trying to sweet talk them chopping styles, like give it to him, Champ, knock him out, put him off the game.
This. I'm like looking at him like, oh my God, like this guy.
And then I eventually started feeling I just told you right now, I'm scared of no men. I started feeling like a sucker in a way because I'm holding his hands. I'm begging him not to knock me out, right, And then I let go and I had to tell him. I said, your champ. You see those guys, it's one hundred and fifty guys, Shannon. I said, you're the champ. You're gonna knock me out. But these guys they're not gonna fight you, Champ. Then they're gonna do you dirt.
Yeah.
He looked at them. He said they with you. I said, yeah, they with me. And then he just disappeared. He's like, it's just music. I said, yes, it's just music, Chap, and he disappeared. When he disappeared, they all ran up.
Yo.
That was Joy Jones. I was like, nah, nah nah, he's good. Naa, what's up? What's up? I was like nah nah nah nah.
At that moment, I was praying for Roy Jones, like yeah, I was like Jesus Christ, I hope these guys, you know.
And the next day we got on the phone.
That was meet him and Jay Prince, and Jay Prince told him like, Yo, you bucking out like you went to New York. And then he was like and then we squad said I seen him like a week lady. That was super Bowl Jacksonville and we drank together. We hung out. You know what I'm saying. We had a great time. I love Roy Jones, but I gotta respect him. He's the last American who came to knock me out on his earth, you know what I'm saying.
He came to knock me out for sure. And then Mike type you and Mike Tyson was gonna beat up somebody. That's an iller story.
You know. Big Pum was crazy, rest in peace like he was like a wild boy. So we did a show. We had fifty yards with us. He tells me, Yo, send them all home. Let's go to the Tunnel, just me and you. Now, the Tunnel was a club in New York where you couldn't be in there if you wasn't dangerous.
This was two bullet minimum hounk.
Yeah, yeah, two bullet minimum. And it was the wildest spot New York had ever seen. Right.
Their bouncers make you look like a baby.
These guys that jump off the roof like these were Transformers, right, Ninja turtles. So we get there and they tell him Pun, this is Pun at his primeise. So two million records, they telling me got to take his boots off. Now, I just tell you, Pum was like five hundred and eighty pounds. He couldn't really take his boots off like this. He was like nah, but in there people used to sneak in knobs and guns and they shit. So they was like, nah, you gotta take it off. So it's like ten security. So Pun is arguing with this one dude. Then it turns to two dudes. Then it turns to three dudes. Then it turns to four dudes, and I'm arguing back with them too, so I'm with Pun like so they say something that I'm like, fuck you, and Puns saying fuck your mother, like it's just nasty work. So I grabbed because I'm always realistic. I grab Pun at one time and I say your Pun. You know, we getting that ass whooped in here like these motherfuckers was huge. He said, Yo, we got straps in the car, said we ain't getting to the car, Puny like this guy's is big motherfuckers, right. So Plumber was like, fuck you suck my he wanted it right. So I'm like, all, fuck, I know how to catch your ass whipped. You know, you gotta give a guy credit for knowing how to take your ass with right, you know, staying with your man to get your ass whipped, That's that's another level. Why are you like to get your ass whipped with your man? That's that's honorable thing.
Right.
So I'm like, okay, we getting fucked up, right, we just gonna talk all the shit we want. So now, out of the ten, it's like eight of them, and out of nowhere, you hear a voice like, yo pan yo, Joe. Fuck these niggas, we turn them. Man, it's iron Mike Tyson. This is like two in the morning with the fucking coofie on. He had a suit on and he starts taking off his Gucci loafers. Fuck these niggas, We'll fuck him up. Pun this is that boom. Next thing, you know, Mike Tyson, the main one that started. Mike Tyson starts chasing them around the car, trying to fuck him up barefoot, and the security looks at me. Joe Joe, stop him, Joe, stop him.
They don't want the man's with that.
Mike tysonbody came out of jail one week. Yeah, like this was him, fresh out of jail, got out right out of Indiana with the Coofie Mussler.
Mike Tyson, Man, that shit was crazy.
You surprised Chante and Nelly at a baby shower. You and Lashanta go way back. Y'all been cool for the longest. And if I'm not mistaken, I think IRV had something to say about you because he kept going back and forth talking about you know her from that was twenty thirty years ago, and you're like, bro, let it go, blah blah blah, she's done, moved on, so forth and so on.
What has a Shanti meant to joke?
Man, She's been there for me, bro for over twenty something years. Earth been there for me too. So you know, looking back at the story, I think I should have just not went on Instagram and called him like a brother on the phone and just been like, yo, my man, you're wilding out right. But with that, IRV got his You know, he is who he is, and he thinks of a world different way than I do. I said sorry to him a million times. In his family. His family loves me and hang out with his brothers and sisters all the time, his nieces. But you know, he still got an attitude with me, but a shanty. She's been my sister through Dick and then. I don't know how to explain it to you. And I'm proud of her. I've seen a baby. A baby's so beautiful. Her baby is he might be the most beautiful baby.
In the world. Way to God he got here.
Wait till they showed the baby Danellie Chart baby is a movie. This guy's he looked like Muhammad al Leave, beautiful head full of hair. Oh, this baby's amazing. And so I'm proud of her. Her family. She's always been assistant. Same with Remy. That's my sister. I got them both to the day I die, you know what I'm saying that, And and that's just that I love them both as my sisters. And I'm gonna hold him down to the day I die. J Loo same there, Jaylor holds me down, you know what I'm saying. So, Jailah's a boss like Jaylo's on you know, she's on another level.
And that's my sister too. You know, I love j Loo.
To death, you know, and I'm just proud of everything she's done.
I'm gonna get you out of here on this. The females seem to have gotten into the rap beet. I can't explain it. Maybe you can because you come from that environment, you in that culture, and you see it.
But when you see like, I'm like, what are y'all what are y'all being for?
We went through a time of hip hop recently in the last two three years where the women you you asked me if Atlanta runing hip hop?
The women run hip hop? Okay?
And they all start and they got so tough that so think of one of the greatest records in the world was doing it and doing it well hellll right yeah, And he's like, you know, do you like get soft and wet?
How you know you're talking to the women? She talking back. They start making new love songs with the female rappers.
When she's like, put your gun on the motherfucking whole stuff, bitch, you fucked me like god, And I'm like, yo, what the fuck is going I'm like, is this a love song?
Am I lion? Or not? You fucked me, you pistol with me while you hitting nigga. I care you. I I'm like, yo, what the fuck is going on with the women? Right?
And but you know I'm one guy that I'm for the women's rights. I'm for the women to do whatever they want to do, how they want to make the music if it's lyrics.
Same thing as guys.
You know, a good rap battle is a good rap battle if it doesn't become physical. Because everybody got brothers, everybody got husbands or boyfriends that think they tough this. You know, this business of hip hop. You don't need a PhD or master. You need a fucking paperwork that says you did ten years in.
Jail and now you're hired.
You got to You got a bunch of crazy dudes with everybody in this motherfucker, you know, and if they influence you, they could fuck your whole shit up. So once again, I think the biggest part of this whole interview with me and you is if you're an artist and you out there and you changing your life, check you're cruel and make sure they don't bring you down, because it's not gonna be you. You trying to become the biggest artist in the game. You trying to become the next fifty cent jay Z. You trying to this if your crew don't share the same vision and they ready to throw it all the way and tell you, yo, fuck that we the realistic this and this that ain't what you got in the game for.
I would m wanted you to sign it.
Yeah yeah, Emmin nine, he gave me his demo like six times. What Yeah, I fucked up big time. Yeah, you biggest mistake in hip hop history, fat Joe not signing Eminem of course, you know now I look up to him, you know what I'm saying, So that was a big mistake. I could have signed Pitt Bull, I could have signed Ross, I could have.
Signed Damn Joe, you're flipping.
Yeah, slip, I slipped. I could have signed a lot of guys in the game that I was just like, probably wasn't ready at the time, or was it focused like I should be, you know, because I'm an artist too, so at the same time, I might have been in artists mode, you know, thinking creatively, thinking about my career.
Joe, I thank you the perfect person to ask for this, because you spend so much your time with Black and brown people. How can the black community and the Latino community, how can we come together?
Joe, Well, we are together in the East. In the East, we are together. But the thing is, you got to realize that we are both oppressed communities. We're both going through the same shit. What Big pun made the record board equal more than we came out the gate letting everybody know the black and brown unity. But you got guys like Fat Joe who is for black and brown unity as an example. More of us do that together and realize that if we learned how to vote the same way, if we learn how to stand up for the same way, will be the most powerful voice and force in America. And so the politicians and all of them will have to listen to us and treat us different. And that's the main thing that people got to really realize. It ain't blacks against Latinos, Latinos against blacks. We're supposed to be together. We've always been together where I'm from, we always been together.
Yeah, it's not we shouldn't be against each other. We should be against the problem. So whatever the problem is, well, together, yes, us.
We form Voltrump and we outnumber everybody else. So if we all you know. I always look at that scene from the movie Malcolm X Spike Lee where he came out to the preest and he went and everybody turned. Well, imagine we could do that together. We be the most powerful people in America.
Make sure you guys check out Fat Joe's Talk with exclusively produced by Lebron James A. Maverick Carter and it's on Stars right now. Also, you have a new album dropping.
The world changed on me. Now, I'm gonna talk show host myself. I gotta ask you one question, how has the world changed on you?
I think you know, Joe, I think I think I think you know the fucking world have changed though, that's her. It's so uh.
The only way to be is be normal. It's possible if fly fly under the radar normal and uh and so the album's amazing. Got a bunch of my friends on their producers that COULDI produced by Cool and Dre and myself and it's just a vibe right now. It ain't about making money off the music. I have a single out there called Paradise with Anita. She's the biggest out there from from Brazil and DJ Calli produced it.
But the album's gonna be incredible.
It's just for guys like you that love hip hopter You're gonna throw it on while you work out and you're gonna be like, man, this shit.
Is mean.
TV show to talk shows, all positivity, no negativity.
We got everybody from ll Cool J to t I Lotto to whoever.
The biggest, the giants, the greats, and we're just talking about positivity, your struggles, everything you've been through and just once again, we want to inspire the young black and brown youth and everybody else who watches the show and who cares about the culture how to uplift themselves and hears something they gotta hear.
Bad Joe, Ladies and gentlemen can that was Gope man.
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