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Cordae Part 1

Published Nov 1, 2023, 4:00 PM

3x Grammy nominated and Gold selling rapper Cordae stops by Club Shay Shay to share his remarkable journey in the music industry. Cordae opens up about his decision to drop out of college, discussing the pivotal moments that led him to pursue his passion in music. He explains his choice to disconnect from social media and his deliberate approach in rejecting 95% of the feature opportunities that come his way. Cordae also discusses the impact of his TED Talk, showcasing his thought leadership beyond music.

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Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Sha Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of Club Sha Shay. And the guy that's stopping by for conversation on the drink today is a three time Grammy nominated artist. The next time he's nominated, he's going to win a gold selling artist. Rapper, singer, songwriter, businessman. Corday, what's up? I'm good, brother, Thanks for stopping by the shop man, appreciate you having me on h He was born in North Carolina. Yeah, raised in Maryland? Yes, sir, what was what's the Corday? Give me a story, Corday upbringing?

Okay?

So I was raised early, like I said, born in North Carolina like you said, more so, raised with my grandmother A lot mom and grandma very yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, yes, sir, Oh sir, I got whooped with the switch on. Go out there in the back yard pick out your switch again? What with the sweet I said this rat bar. I was like Grandma used to whoop a nigga with switches. That was way before the switches, you know whatever. But yeah, very you know southern hospitality, very southern. Didn't really like have too much growing up, you know, not like really don't know what was me type of stuff, but just you know how it is a lot of the times. Uh, my mom had me, she was super young. She was sixteen years old when she had me, and so so oldest.

Yeah I'm the eldest. Yeah, I'm the eldest.

And my nickname was Mad because I was the man of the house like my grandma and my mom, and then my little Auntie, well she's like not a little auntie, but she was young at the time Auntie.

So I was like the man of the house. So my nickname was Man.

And I moved to South Carolina, lived out in Florence, South Carolina for a little bit, and then I moved to Maryland and lived in Suitland, Maryland, and I still got it.

When I moved out in Maryland, people was like, man, you sound countries mother boy, like for real.

And I was in fifth grade at that time, so my bad, I'm going step by step from But Maryland it was like not a culture shop, but it was more so like oh, go go, like learning about new things. So I became acclimated. So like Maryland is like home now because I was. Maryland is really what made me who I am. But still going back, you know, the Carolina's for the summer to visit my grandmother and my dad, my family on that side and stuff. So yeah, but like Maryland, like Maryland really helped me become, not even helped me, but like made me who I am, Like made me love like sneakers, like live music because of Go Go and more so in the South, it's like you live in like a trailer or like well it wasn't just straight trailers, but you get what I'm saying. Versus Maryland, it's like neighborhoods and building so right by DC.

Maryland is the country to the south too, because I think it falls Mason, so anything.

It's technically the south of them. If you know, it's like an up a vibe. It's like d C.

It's still a city vibe myself because it's DC right there, Like New York.

Y'all will y'all don't want to be labeled country. No, it's not the country. I would say that for sure, it's not the country. I would say it's nothing. But I'm listening, I'm looking at you. I've read your story.

And you raised by your grandmother and your mom in a trailer park, uh sometimes fifteen people in and out, no cable, no internet. So you had a pretty rough upbringing. So as you're growing up, what are you thinking to yourself?

What do you want to be?

Yeah, well, I would say I want to say, it was like fifteen people in and out, but we always had like a good it was family running home.

So I always enjoyed that.

I want to say, fifteen, I ain't gonna you know how niggas be lying since and I ain't finn live fifteen ain't.

Yea yea yea yeah, it won't. Five. It was more than vibe.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, But and you know, I was raised in like different environments, Like it was some points where like like I said, we lived in the trailer and then when we moved to Maryland, we kind of in the hood in Suitland, and then later on as my mom getting older and she's getting a better job. We lived in like towards like my my like fifteen through like seventeen, like them. Last two years of high school we lived in like a better neighborhood. So I kind of moved around like a lot. I went to six different elementary schools, you know what I'm saying. So I kind of lived in, like you said, like all type of environments, like like I said, lived in like the trailer in the countryhood, right, you know. And then I lived in like the the Maryland, the city what I consider the city hood, you know what I'm saying, where like people were at their apartments like right by Forest Creek, Suitland, they called it twenty eighth for Bradford, whatever the case may be.

And then living like in a in a better neighborhood in my.

Late teens, like late high school neighborhood, excuse me, late high school years. So I think the culmination of all those things allowed me to like interact with all different like walks of life, like I didn't even really wasn't around white people until I went to college. Like my middle school, elementary school, high school all like ninety nine point nine percent black, like niggas making fun, not making fun but I'm the lightest thing in there.

You like, that's funny.

So growing up in a trailer park, growing up in the inner cities, moving to the suburbs, so as you mentioned, it gave you a better opportunity of how to navigate and deal with different types of people in different types of environments.

Yeah, for sure, because like I was saying, I went to five different elementary schools, so I had to be out gone with so many just moving around just like you know, just moving around figure having young you know what I'm saying, young parents is figuring it out.

You know what I'm saying.

You know, I didn't know why, but like you know, we're just moving around a lot. So so me having to be outgoing because okay, I'm at this school, I'm moving here in April the school year.

Damn there. Oh ho.

You know, so I got to be out going and like in order to make new friends, in order to to to get in you know.

So I think that kind of affected me today to.

Where I have more of a not like I'm kind of to myself a lot now, more reserved, but like I can turn on that social battery if when needed.

Right, is it hard for you because you moved to so many different schools and so you're in and out of friendship.

Hey man, how you doing The next thing?

You know, you pick up, you got a new set of friend and the you know you pick up and they got a new set of friend So is it hard for you to maintain stable friendship because you moved so you kind of like a soul journal you were just Upton?

Yeah, nah, for real, man, You know what, I never even thought about it like that, that that could be a reason. Like and I think why I love Maryland so much is because that was like the most like stable, Okay I was, you know, like even when we lived in a hood.

In Suitland in a Hickory Hill apartments, like.

I was there for like even though we switched apartments like apart, We'll be like, okay, we lived in it. When we first moved to Maryland, we lived in a one bedroom apartment. Then we moved in that same apartment complex and the one in the den, and we used the den as our bedroom, and then we had the two bedroom and it's like, oh me and my little brother, we get we.

Got our own bathroom. We all got to share a bathroom with moms. No more.

And so even that was still like stable for me because We're still in the same neighborhood. I'm still going to the same school essentially. So then when I moved from Suitland to like Waldorf, which is like a better area, that was like that was I'm like, we was like in the townhouse at that time.

And again this is like I'm sixteen years old and you really moved on up.

In my in my brain, I'm like, one't got listen to my mom, like, Okay, we're gonna go to a neighborhood, but like no cable, no why we ain't really had cable Wi Fi before. But like, so I'm in this area and one't got cable and WiFi. My mom driving a ninety six camera. Some of my classmates is driving like that ship.

You know what I'm saying. They pull up in the acro truck. I'm like, damn, like, oh y'all having that ship.

So even in that environment to where I'm like on like the super low end of like that area, if that makes sense, So my bad.

I'm going in all types of places. But the question was, what was that.

I'm sorry, no, I'm just saying because I said it was your friendships and because you exactly, because you hear and then you're going.

You hear and then you're going, and then you here and then you're going, and the hear you're gone. Yeah.

Yeah, So when I was in like that area, like when wet down at that high school, I think we moved there like tenth or eleventh grade.

I really felt like like stable. It felt really good, like stability.

So that's kind of why maybe I moved like an old man now you know what I'm saying in a way like this, liking things to be stable.

Did you ever tell you Ma'm like, damn, mom, can we just like stay wharmped?

I just got a new set of friends and I really liked these I really like these friends here.

And he's like, baby, we only get you know what I wouldn't I would I don't know, to be honest, I couldn't recollect that accurately, but I'm sure I did.

As a kid.

You know, I'm listening to you and you say you had a speech impediment. I also had one, and I know kids can be very cruel, very cool, Yeah, and so how how did you deal with that?

Yeah?

It was it was tough because when I first moved to Maryland again, like I'm uh and at this time again, we is not really having this ship.

So I'm in Maryland. Fashion is huge yet even so that's where he got it from exactly.

So even in elementary school, middle school, niggas is wearing I'm wearing shacks. Bro, I'm wearing Champion sneakers and so I'm already the country boy and I'm wearing shacks. So it's like you, I'm getting it. No, you get you ever got roasted so bad you want to cry because it be true. I mean, bibles roasting this dude. And he was like, Nigga, that's why your mother drive a fucked up call.

You live in the hood. I'm like, god, damn, bro, Like that's cruel, but it's true. You had damn like you say that at the lunch table. Nigga.

We're supposed to keep this, you know, mans so, but but yeah, it just learned you to kind of get tough skin to help me now because even we live in this world with the internet, So if I drop a song, even though it'll be a million people that love it, I don't have let's say you drop a post or whatever, right, in ten thousand comments be like, man, fire, firefire, but our brains is so naturally geared towards that two hundred. That's like, man, this is some bullshit. Bro, this is like, this is not good and so it'll make you like more.

It can fuck up your whole day.

But me growing up like in Maryland, well we be joning like shit, like going at each other, joning all the time. And give me a little bit tough to skin to where even now with somebody talking about like an outfit of something you were on a carpet at.

Of the vent or like niggas like, man, you know gain some weight, didn't you lately? Nigga? And I'm just like, you know, is this I got tough for skin? You know, I ain't gonna act like I'm impenetrable, and I like it don't phase me at all. But I would like to think I got tougher skin.

When when they were talking about your speech impediment you talk with a list, did you know you had it at the time or did you?

Like, man, I'm talking just like you. I mean I could I had one growing up.

I had to go to speech class, and so what I did I would make fun of everybody else, so.

People wouldn't talk about me. So how did you navigate that?

Because, like you said, kids can be cruel and it's unrelenting because once we find out what bothers you, oh, I can't let it go.

I think it kind of just stopped after like fifth grade.

And again, it wasn't like I was Poindexter when it is like a nigga, like you know what I'm saying, but like you know, when you jone on your man, like, boy, shut your ugly ass something, I'm like a daffy duck ass nigga, you know, So so it'd be like it wasn't just like I walk in the school and it's just like list boy, you know what I'm saying. But it's like when we joning on each other, it's like a back and forth type of thing. So when we joning on each other, they gonna, you know, dish, that's what they talking about. I'm talking about your shirt because we wore uniforms in Maryland. So I'm like, your uniform shirt got a stain on it and you probably woar that shirt yesterday, and they like, all right, daffied up, you know. So it's like a back and forth thing. It wasn't like just a attack. So you know, God, if you go on dish, you gotta take it.

If young kid was sitting here and he or she had an impediment, speech impediment, talk with a list or stuttered, what advice would you give them? How would you have explain to them how to navigate going through life? Because sometimes you can possibly I grow it and sometimes you still have it. Because I talk with a heavy colloquial dialect. I'm from rural, rural South Georgia.

It is who I am.

I've learned to embrace it because that's the part of who I am makes you unique, It makes me unique. And so I went to when I first got on television, I went not you know, I was trying to be Ed Bradley and I'm trying to articulate my worth.

Behold up, not a who I am. That's not what it hired me.

Absolutely, And that's why you connect, how you connect and your audience and how you've been able to build and why people connect with you because it's it's authentic. Because nobody can be Shannon Sharp better than Shannon Sharp. Nobody can be Cordae better than Corday, right, And so that's why I would tell that kid, just like, just be yourself, embrace what it is. Ain't nothing wrong with you wanting some self improvement, you know, and whatever that you want to do.

If you want to take a speech class, not saying you should or you have to, but like, whatever you want to do, nobody can be you better than you.

So just embrace yourself. Embrace your imperfections, and embrace your flaws and accept it and flourishing it.

Did you ever have a fear of public speaking? You know what? No?

No.

When I was young, I wanted to be a lawyer. Okay, so I wanted to win.

It was around the time Barack came out, So I'm like, y'all want to be a president. And so I always read a lot when I was little, Like I was in fourth grade reading fat ass Harry Potter books. So at first I started reading Harry Potter books, right, And then my mom and my stepdad was like, well, if you can read an eight hundred page Harry Potter book, you can read this book on w eb dou boys, you can read this book on third good Marshall. So I was like in fifth grade reading Souls of Black Folk. I was in fifth grade reading third good Marshall, reading books on Huey Newton and Malcolm X and things of that nature. And this is when I fell in love with rap, like super heavy too, from reading. And I used to look at Na's lyrics and google rap Jeans. It's super early rap jeans days and just look at him and it's like, oh, same with jay Z. Just google jay Z lyrics and just look at him like oh and just annotate and so yeah, So me falling in love with reading, it always gave me a I guess above average like reading and comprehension level and an ability to speak.

So now I would when they doing popcorn reading, I'm raising my hand, you know.

Steve Harvey tells the story a lot that when he was growing up, he told the teacher that he wanted to be on television, and the teacher told him, said, you can't be on television because you have a speech impediment, and so he made it. And he says, every year he sends her television because he's on TV.

That's crazy.

In the first two years, damn, that's I'm sure he's spending a nice ass TV too.

Yeah, I might as well. Yeah, I mean TV's a really cheap now dad, you know, yeah, yeah that's true. But let me ask you this.

Did anyone ever tell you that you couldn't make it because of your impediment?

No, not really, to be honest, it wasn't because of the impediment, I don't. I remember this one person I was in a group chat with and she was like, well, you know how you do group chats and stuff in high school and no, we didn't have those.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I know, but that's true.

So I was in this group chat, and I remember I first moved to college and I took a picture of me setting up my studio, my little home set up like my Michael On laptop, speakers set up in my dorm room, took a picture of it and put in the group chat. She was like, yeah, your roommate gonna think you, asked, like as a joke, and I was like, all right, like I'm gonna show you say less. And so now whenever I never forget that. So now whenever I got a show back home, and she tried to one of my friends like hey, can we bring such or something like nah, I'm good for sure, absolute understand the first time, but keep it going because stay over there.

That's a customber but at that paying comstoable. But listen, listen. All money ain't good money, bro, All money ain't good money.

But but but she was never like really a supportive person, and so I'm just like, yo, let's just keep it where it was before. So if you supported me before, it's like people get above and beyond.

What if you have a n Q moment to change your heart? Shit? Have it too late? Too late? So I love if I if I would have run into it'd be straight love. Like, man, how you been good? That's a front? How we really feel? No? No, no, no, no, that ain't the front because I'm just trying to omit good energy. You know what I'm saying. I'm finna go out of my but.

You're not going out of your way. Somebody came you said, ay, Corty, you remember such as such? Man, She tried to come to the She tried to come to the.

Well and shit hit the ticket.

She You did a Ted talk last year nearly five million views and six in six months. Yeah, obviously Bill Gates was there. So what was it like meeting Bill Gates and when you went there, what was gonna did you know what you're gonna talk about before you did the talk?

Yeah? So I did the Ted talk and I was like, high level my you know, that's my shameless plugs, that's my brand. I love my bad you know that might get a sound my best for sound.

But so yeah, I was just like, okay, high level mindset because that really helped me me not even realizing what it was and me not having a name for it at the time, like being the youngin like really helped me, you know, get to where I am at today. And you know what one thing I did miss on that Taed talk. I wanted to shout out why being my mirror? Cause without him, I would not be where I'm at today, Like hands down, Without Why being my mayor, I would have still got to where I'm at today, but it would have took me a lot longer. So I got a shout out why being my mayor, He's a huge reason why I'm here, why I'm here today?

Right, And.

So going back to the Taed talk, just the principle is more so and in like little things that I've learned on the lifestyle, things like discipline, so I wanted to include that. The second idea I had, I was like, it was like why prostitution made should be legal in in America. It was just just on some like you know, cause some Ted talks is like two points of it. You get what I'm saying. So it just on some funny shit too. I I I was telling the owner of TED, I like, what you think of this Ted talking. He's just like, uh, keep high level, buddy, Let's stick with high level. So yeah, it was uh so when they reached out, it was just one of the things I wrote. You know how you got like a list of things you wanna do at the top of the year, So I had TED Talk in one of those. I asked Shennon Uncle Shay club at the beginning of this year. So when Ted Talk they reached out to us, I'm like, oh, like, that's that's fire. So we did it and it ended up being the number one most watched Ted talk for the year. And after I did my Ted Talk, they was like, hey, I was in my green room. They was like, hey, Bill, want to come meet you. And I'm like, Bill, who like you know, like whatever? They like, Bill Gates, I'm like.

Oh him on that man, you know. So I talked to him and he's just a really cool guy.

Knows a lot of things out there with him buying like farm line and like a bunch of shit.

But buy some land. To god, ain't making no more land exact. So I don't know what he's doing with I don't want to defend you know what I'm saying or whatever, But so I'm just like I'm trying not to be closed minded.

I'm like, bro, that's Bill Gates. Why would I not meet Bill exactly? You know, an opportunity.

Absolutely there we go. So so I'm just talking to him.

He's like, man like, that was like my favorite Ted talk I've seen in a really long time. Man Like, man, take my number down, and we're just talking about it. He's like, oh, you're doing Coachella. He's like, yeah, me and my daughter gonna come see you at Coachella next weekend. This and that didn't he still, by his word, came to see me at Coachella like the next weekend. And you know, he donates, I don't misquote me, but he donates like a lot of money, like just every year and again not to feed him. He should donate a lot of money, right, But he he helps like a lot of decent causes.

So yeah, he seems like a great guy from like my interactions with him.

You said high level, high level your mindset. In the speech it says remain positive, be disciplined, control your environment, create good habits, remove negative people out of your life.

You are, That's what I was doing with Shorty, you know, man, that was years ago. She changed And you know how Michael Jordan did his damn Hall of Fame. Yeah, he look that's different.

How do you remain positive?

You know a lot of people say, you know, even though when things are going bad, you remain positive. It's easy to remain positive when things.

Will go good.

Okay, you drop, you drop a song, it goes viral, it makes you know, everybody's clamoring for it or everything that you see to touch. But what happened when all of a sudden that slows down? How do you remain that positive mindset when things are not going as well as you expected?

Man, it's a lot easier said than done.

Man, some days you might have a couple of days where you just kind of like just fucked up and just I can curse.

Right, yeah, sorry we are saying that, so yeah, oh yeah, exactly right. Maybe I should ask that before. I'm sorry about that. But yeah, it's a lot like you said, it's a lot easier said than that.

Like some days when things aren't going as well, it's just it's hard, you know, it's super hard. But try to just always find that counterbalance of just remaining like what we said before we got here, like man, we woke up this morning.

After that, that's anything else is an extra.

And so I say that now my mindset now because I did have a really rough last year, like just just mentally things I went through, like just personally in my personal life.

Eventually I really went through it.

I was like really like in a super dark place last year, like really that I've never even been in before, like just growing up and things of that nature.

Even with me having success and money and all of these things, Like I was in a really dark place last year.

But I had to come and again it's easier for me because again I'm super blessed, you know. But no matter what, it's always a blessing that you can find. It's like, okay, like even if I woke up, I have all my limbs. Okay, even I don't have my limb, I still have. You know, it's something that you can find to be grateful for, to be appreciative of. That's why when people ask me how I'm doing, I'm saying, man, i'd be a fool to complain, because I truly, especially me, I would be a fool to complain.

Oh, nobody want to hear it, you know, But but too, I would be a fool to complain.

And so I think everyone, like, even though we all may be at different stages of our life and careers and things, all have something to be grateful for. If you sat down and wrote out things, man, we got Okay, I know what my next meal is coming from. Okay, I got a roof for for my hand. Correct even if you don't got to okay.

I can find a way. I'm woke. I am alive today.

Yes, yes, you don't. Like the old said when they say, you know, God don't make no mistake. I'm like, he's doing this to me on purpose. I sure hope this was a mistake. But you but for you to the main and I'm listening to you talk and you say, you know, look at the end of the day. I remain positive because I woke up this morning. Then I can attack anything else that happens after that. We better figure it out. We woke up, We can figure it out. We can figure it out. Not the Kanye song, but college drop out. You go to towsand and you're like, okay, you were telling the story earlier. How you sitting everything up at your door room, like yeah, I'm college college, about to go, you know, be on campus, about to see these shortest and then you decided to leave.

Yeah, because I really went to college because it was it was bigger than me, Like I was like first generation. Like my mother didn't get a chance to go to college. She had to go to night school to get her high school diploma. My dad had got his ged in prison. You know my grandmother dropped out of school in third grade. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so exactly. So me is just like, okay, this is And I always was, like I would like to say, a little smart growing up. You know, I always had decent grades. So it's like this is my avenue. I got no other choice, and I was that that was like almost a plan B for me. And so when I got to school, I would say It was like my second year when I really locked in on the music thing, and I was like, oh yeah, I ain't finna finish. My goal was like, okay, I'm a finished college. Give myself three hard years to like really go crazy on the music.

But then by like my junior year, I'm taking out extra Sally may Long shout out my mom. She co signed them for me, and I'm cashing.

I'm having about five g's in my pocket because I'm taking out extra loans.

And so I'm using this the fly to La, the fly to south Boy, Southwest to go, and I'm working a job at this time too. I'm selling a little weed.

I'm getting money right in my brain, you know what I'm saying. Like I wasn't escaball, but you know, I'm selling my little old to my I'm getting a little money working at the restaurant. Got you know, got my extra Sally made loan. So I'm using all this to just to put into my music.

Into it.

I'm I'm getting scammed. I'll pay like a local artist for a feature. They done ran off on me.

I done money being a green bean. I done money.

Gramness gave red and he done like appreciate your sir, green Bean.

You know. So yeah, just taking risks, man, just just taking risk, taking a bunch of l's and I was just like, I can't.

I got into that mindset like, yo, I am not giving myself no other option but to do this music thing.

I'm not.

This is just my I'm not giving myself a playing beef, just like cause I don't want to live with myself when I'm fifty years old, older than like man, I didn't tell I was being too safe with life, and you never want to be too safe. And that's something I'm like fighting right now because I have things to lose. Like before, I didn't have nothing to lose. So I'm taking every risk. I'm going heads on now.

I got, you know, thing I'm not. I'm not. I got other people to think about it. That's depending on me.

And so I'm more risk averse, which is necessary to learn that. But still like we still got to be brave, we still got to take chances, we still got to take risks, and so just trying to find that balance because I think it was a point where I was almost like being too safe with the moves and things that I was making. I would turn down things cause.

It wasn't like that. But it was just a lesson more so of me. Just like nah, I still got to be brave.

I still got to have that same belief and faith in myself and God that like, yo, let's just go for it.

Let's just go for it to take it to the next level.

Were you a good student or were you partying doing things that I like, like a lot of kid college kids do.

I mean, you obviously do in college. You want to enjoy it.

This is an environment because hopefully you're going to grow up and not party like you did in college. So were you a good student and you said you got good grades? But were you partying? Were you doing things like a typical college kid.

I was a good student in high school and I was still in high school, like you know, I was.

I've been spoking with I was like twelve years old, okay, And so.

In college is like, oh, now I don't gotta smoke. You know this when we was like illegal, so you know, we had the hot box, a homie car be paired.

You already paranoyu.

I you know, you be looking around, make sure police and nobody come around. And so college is just you got a friend with an apartment, so it's just like, oh, we can really turn up there. So so in high school I was able to balance both you know, turning up and things of that nature.

But in college I was a horrible student.

It was just like yo, like especially when I found out I'm really gonna do music all the way. Like, I dropped a lot. I had like one class a week. I can't one class a week.

And I was flying in Atlanta.

If it's something and there's some sort of convention like complex con of South I said, I'm flying out there.

I had a friend who worked at Southwest.

I got the buddy pass, right, I got I'm gonna find somebody couch I can sleep.

On, you know, so I'm a duel. I would take all of them risks. And so yeah, in college that's when I start.

I got heavy into poppingsans and perk has said, and trying.

Like acid and trying like type stuff.

Yeah yeah, like and I'm not, you know, bragging about it, but just like college, that's when I really well, iride, you made it that long in school, yeah exactly. So So yeah, college I kind of really got burnt out. And this is when like a pill really became like super cool and like in pop culture more so cool if you would you know.

So, yeah, I was just I was. Yeah, I was. I was burnt out for lack of a better.

So you say you're probably around, you say you're eighteen nineteen when you says, okay, it's this music thing.

Damn school.

I ain't got no black up playing, I ain't got no job lined up. It's either music or I'm gonna be back on Grandma and mamacout.

But that that's it. Yeah, that's it. That's yeah, that's why I gave out. I was just like, this is just what it is. It's just no adoptions I'm reading or.

You say you met a lot of your your rap friends, rap friends through social media, social social media, blessing or curse.

It's it's a combination of the two.

It's just depend on how you let it dictate your mind, your frame of mind. And so yeah, I met na Mirror. I actually met Nahmer through my bro Simber, my dog simberl but I met him in person at Roland loud La for me taking them trips again. If it's something that's going on like within music, I'm a fine, I wouldn't even have a ticket there. I'm just like, yo, just bout me moving off that mustard. See faith, I'm a find a way and I'll just find for some miraculous reason, nothing but god, I'll just find my way with an artist band. Which now we get that, you know, you just asked. You just get your agent and somebody asks you in there. But like as a citizen at the time, that's a big deal. And so that's how I met Nahmir through that, he recognized he rock with my stuff. So that was how that sparked. And again, you know, without while being not mayor, I will not be here and it will not be here this fast, but even just would not be here regardless, and so so yeah, so we just stay connected through social media. But to go to your point of it's a blessing. Social media change my life, right, you know it changed millions of lives social media since the social media age. I bet it's a study that shows more millionaires, multimillionaires are being erupted. And that's how I learned a lot of information. I'm able to watch I watch interviews. I can watch somebody that's coming to your podcast and get a gym. From there, I can watch people like earn your leisure, you know, learn financial stuff from there.

So you know, that's the beauty of social media.

It's gonna be interesting though, to see like studies of human behavior like since social media, because it's still a relatively new construct. Okay, people are more antisocial now because of social media attention spans or a lot lower work ethics, a lot lower things of that nature. So I'm just curious to see what type of effects long term social media is just gonna have on humans and human behavior.

Mentally, Like social media like isn't the best.

For me, Like right now, I can pull out my phone right now, I have no Instagram, no Twitter, no TikTok on my phone.

Like I'll just download it. I did get away with it or you never had it.

I had it for sure, but like this last year again, you know when I was like really going through it retally, I think these last two years, I'll just download it. When I got a okay cord, you gotta post this, and okay, we got a song out, we gotta post this, So I'll just download it. Do what I gotta do, you know, still scroll a little bit, tap in what's going on in the world.

You know, Twitter the new news. You know, that's the new newspaper.

So I'll tap in, but then i'll once I done gott the information I needed, posted what I need, I'll just delete it just for my own well being, because we're also comparing our lives. You gotta think people only post their highlights on social.

Only dubs like they're absolutely highestuff high.

Moments like Nigga, I ran into Drake to day, so I'm gonna upload that like to my so you know, people can't create all type of illusions and things of that nature. So I say that to say, you're looking at everybody's highlight reel and you're comparing your real life.

To someone's that's probably in that's a moment.

That's a moment, and so it gets you all the way feeling you know, blue and feeling a little depressed to just down, you know, and ungrateful for your life that you live. So and again, it's just gonna be funny to see like the long term effects on social media. Okay, Like people are attention spans are a lot less. People don't pay attention to conversation as much things, So it's just gonna be interesting to see that because it's still a fairly new construct, so it's just gonna be interesting.

I'm listening to you talking.

You said you were going through something last year, If you don't mind me asking what was going What were you going through that caused you to say, you know what, I need to step away from social media? Was it something that was going through you were going through at home because your lady was going through something. The music wasn't being put out like you like or like you wanted. What was going on in cor day's life? That says, man, I need to step away from this.

Yeah, I think I put out an album last year, right, and again, most people loved it, you know, like most people loved it.

Most of my fans loved it.

A lot of people come up to me, a lot of artists, which helped me feel better. A lot of my peers come up and be like, man, that new album is gas where I can see the improvement from your first album. I think it was way better in my opinion, and I think you were more like structurally just songwriting ability.

And all this improved.

And again, like I said, a lot of fans love my second album more. But when I see it wasn't being as well received as like my first one. I just want to please the fans and please the people. And so when everybody doesn't love it at the level, and again, so when I'm making this album, I'm like, Nigga, this is the best shit since Sliced Bread I make. I made a song called Want for Me. I'm like, man, this shit gonna be bigger than Red Bone together. And it ain't nobody, you know, because I'm a positive. Ain't nobody that can tell me that. And so I'm putting out this album. I'm like, man, we're gonna win this award. This award is gonna sell this amount of records. And although it was successful, because it didn't meet the like astronomical expectations.

Yeah, and I wouldn't even.

Say unrealistic, just astronomical expectations. It just like Fume just put me really down in the down space. And then you start doubting yourself, like you start having like imposter syndrome, like do I am I really worthy of being here?

Do I really deserve this? Like are people rock with me? Like how am I.

Gonna make a li you know, just all of these just thinking the worst thoughts that you can possibly think of, and like, man, it's even worth like just doing this, you know. So it was really off that but of getting me seeing a positive like I did a tour last year, and my.

Tour sold out across the globe in ninety percent of markets. You know. Obviously in Belgium it might have.

Been like eighty percent sold out or whatever, but ninety five in America fully sold out in double capacity venues that I did off my first album.

So we did a tour.

Let's say we did a thousand cat venue for the first album. This album, we did two thousand cat venue. It sold out, and so it allowed me to see a silver lining of like one, first week sales don't matter, like album sales don't matter in today age. Well, I'm really able to gauge my success from an album of how much did the music connect is from a live show, because people gotta buy ticket, they gotta wait in line, they gotta come see you. It takes effort to see a live show. So I was able to see like that silver line. It really helped me out a lot, going on tour, performing seeing real life fans wrap these words, sing these hooks, you know, word for word, that really helped me a lot. And so just being trying to stay positive and finding the silver lining. And again it's easier for someone who's like me that's super blessed to be able to find like a silver lining because it's, oh, we just got this deal.

That came in. It's such a lot of money, you know what. But all right, my day ain't too bad, you know.

So now your mentals are a lot You're in a lot better place now than where you were, say a year ago.

Yeah, because realizing just life it ain't just always gonna be pm is.

It's gonna be like blue Blue Blue Cup. Okay, we're a little stagnant right here, Dennis Blue Cup. Bloo ooh.

You know, just like I remember watching your stuff and you was like, how Fox Sports not for ABC? Forgive me if I'm not yes, CBS, excuse me. Wasn't rocking with you on the way. It wasn't embracing you for how you are and at that time, and forgive me if I'm speaking miscorrectly. For you, you could have thought like, man, that's an opportunity loss. I may not get another opportunity. But then that just opened the door for Fox Sports and you and skipped to do y'all thing, and then you to have your own platform and do your thing to where now amongst the youth, they may know you you're a Hall of Famer.

You know you won multiple super Bowl but then you I know you from the football or you being a superman. But a lot of the youth may know you more from being on TV and some Uncle Shay Shane with the black male and the handog.

You know what I'm saying, That's what a lot of the people know me for. I think the thing was that CBS. I think they just I was just miscast. I needed to be in this format, on a platform like this to showcase my ability that I could talk about things other than just football, and Fox presented an opportunity for me. Football season is well underway, the baseball postseason is here, new basketball and hockey seasons are pun US. While we love watching our favorite teams on television, there's nothing better than being at the game live and in person. And I think I know a little something about that. The best way to get tickets to any of these games is on game Time. The fastest growing ticket app in the US game Time is the only ticket app that gives you peace of mind with your purchase.

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You moved to LA with some friends? Yep? Had you?

I mean obviously you say you had flown to La. If there was a concert going on, Corday was gonna find a way to get to it. Yes, So did you always want to live in La or where? Like when you were growing up? Like, man, if I could live anywhere once I become an adult, I'm gonna live in La or I'm gonna live in Miami, or'm gonna live in Chicago.

Where did Corday want to live when he was growing up as a kid.

I wanted to just live life as a rich and nomad, like still even now, Like, oh, my goal is like a own the house in LA, on the house in New York, on the house in Atlanta, on the house in London, on the house in Ghana, and just live like a rich nomad. Okay, it's winter time in DC, so okay, let me go to LA for winter, or let me try going to let me make this album men turn so you get what I'm saying. So my goal was always to live like a rich nomad, you know, to be nomadic but upscale. But my first time visiting LA was for complex cond of twenty seventeen.

And I was just like, oh, yeah, nah, this the hould bee. Yeah. I was just like, yeah, this is the place to beleeve being DEMI living in LA for three years, like man, I got to go back home. I need to be with my mama, you know, so be amongst family and all my friends and stuff. So just a balance. So my goal as a kid was to just live a rich, nomadic lifestyle. You know, were you when you got to LA.

Were you locked in where you focused, were the focus where it needed to be, or were you Like a lot of people when they come to LA, they get caught up in the lifestyle and they party and they have a good time, and then sometimes they forget the real reason that they came to LA to begin with.

Oh yeah, nah.

As soon as I it's like that my junior year at college when I stopped, like, you know, just doing zans all the time, doing perk, smoking and drink lean all this stuff all the time. Like when I made that junior year, when I made that mind frame up, I started fasting. I stopped indulging in all type of vices, you know, stop you know, doing drugs, stop smoking, stop everything. So by the time I got to LA, I was on my mind frame was just like, nah, we came here for it.

I was on spot. Yeah.

I was already built up that discipline, built up the habits, built up of habit of doing good, habits of like staying focused on my work.

I made a vision board at the top of the year. I'll write down my goals.

Every month and just want to stick to that and just being disciplined of saving money, being disciplined, of just sticking to my craft and not letting any outside influencers get to me.

So by the time I got to LA, it was just like I was already cold turkey.

I turned down, I turned down blunts with legends, you know what I'm saying, turn out and drink just because I'm just so focused stuff, just like I'm.

Here for a reason. So I wasn't going to no parties, no nothing.

Okay, I'm reading that you're the original group, your original group of friends. You guys party with separate ways. Yeah, what do you think did you outgrow them? There were things that they were doing that you didn't like. How did that happen because you had been friends for a minute.

Yeah, yeah, it was mainly because of the business side behind it.

You know. Obviously every group group said hip hop just for some whatever reason, just doesn't end well for the most part, groups in general, I think in music.

But you try to go solo, no, Na, not really, I'm gonna keep it the buck with you.

What was really the issue was the business side of it, and I'm still dealing with that today to be honest. But just the business side behind like the YBN brand and the powers that be. That was a feel on the business side or so that was like the main main thing because like even when I had a conversation with him, I'm there, it was just like, look, bro, like this business thing is just like Bro, it's just it's just horrible. For lack of a better war, We're gonna own the YBN name all of these things. So we're building up this brand of why being that none of us own, like why if not miror owners, Like man, I'm rolling this thing to the wills fall off or whatever the case may be.

But like, bro, we don't own this. So like, man, I'm gonna have to.

And obviously we had creative differences and things of that nature with that noum, but we gonna. I was gonna find a way because again, this man is the reason why I'm here.

You know, obviously I have.

Talent and it's a god given blessing God above all, but like this dude, why be in my mirror is a huge reason or why I'm here. So I'm trying to like figure it out. So I had a conversation with him about, you know, the business side. I'm just like, man, I'm gonna have to do this thing, like we're gonna have to I'm gonna have to remove this thing from my name. And then when we had a conversation, he understood it like everything was cool. So I thought he understood it from the convo we had. But then you know, he kind of went to the internet and said something else.

Man.

You know, I didn't really appreciate that, but just like whatever, Like I still got so much gratitude for him, you know, for that opportunity.

Even still to this day, not Mirror ever need anything from me.

It's just like I still I talked to my mere mom just last week, so just that that, uh, never outshine Master, if you would.

And what's your relationship, what's your relationship with him? I understand that you talk to its mom. Have you talked to him last time?

I talked that I maryor I called him because I wanted to bring him out on stage for Coachella, right and now, Mirror early on wasn't really a and I'm not talking down upon him.

He'll notice he said no, come to the Coachella.

He was he just got his braces removed, so he didn't want to wrap and his mouth was kind of messed up.

You know what I'm saying. Like me, I was upset. I'm like, bro, this is like Coachella, Like, come on bro. But so he didn't.

So that was the last time I spoke to my mareor to bring him out for Coachella. And then we'll just randomly text, you know, things of that nature, like yo bro, like the new song, things of that, but like we always gonna be good, Like it's always a love Like I will never ever talk down on that man who presented me this like amazing opportunity.

I'm not just saying that to be politically corrected. It's just the God's honest truth.

You know, you were a member of the twenty nineteen Double XL freshman class. You got megda Stallion, you got Blue Face Gunner or the baby Roddy Rich.

Do you do you follow? Do you follow that you follow youmates? Yeah?

To an extent for sure, because it's it's always like whenever we see each other, like it's just always like we graduated high school together.

This's type of.

Feeling you had, type of vibes. So whenever I see Meg, it's always love with her. She always emits super good energy, always had even when she was going through you know that thing with toy, like she all with our sender, like a you know, a voice, no, you know, things of that nature.

But like she always was like good vibes, good energies.

And every time I see them, it's always at Like last time I seen Meg in person was at the met Gala, you know, so it's just like, hey, hey, it was something man freshman class. We hear, you know, just talk about you know, how proudly are with each other with Roddy. You know, we have the same A and R with Dallas. Shout out Dallas. So I knew Roddy a little bit.

Before the Double Excel freshman class.

So it was like super fire and inspiring to see, okay, us me and each other twenty eighteen. Then we both had a show together, and the next time we see each other it was Double Xcel Freshmen. The next time we see each other it's at the Grammys. So it's always like just good to see people leveling up and see like how far they can take it or how far they took it and how far we going to continue to take it. So it's gonna be funny to see, like even five years from now, ten years from now, to see where everybody is and how far they was able to take it and things they able to do for their family, their community.

It's a blessing for sure,

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