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Club 520 - Vernon Maxwell on CRAZY battle with Michael Jordan, fight in the stands + Drazen Petrovic

Published Aug 15, 2024, 3:55 PM

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 91 of Club 520 where the squad interviews NBA legend Vernon Maxwell to talk about all things basketball. Mad Max tells incredible stories of his battles with Michael Jordan and Drazen Petrovic. Plus, Maxwell gives his perspective on what happened when he fought a fan in the stands during a game. Vernon also gives his perspective on the big money in the NBA today with the new TV deals, and what that means for the future of the game. And don't miss why Maxwell has a love, hate relationship with Utah! #Volume #Club

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All right, we're back live from the Listco Resource Well Vegas Baby Club five twenty Live on location, special special guests. To my left, we're gonna introduce my man's last. To my far left, we got my dog Bishop be hearing out the praiar Lee.

How you would nasty, cool and nasty.

Let's get to it out.

Think how you feeling? Man?

You know I'm saying Vegas I took a toll on us, but we've been going. We've been trapping out here. This is our fifth day. Vegas been good to us. You know it's time of slide though. For sure we're talking before the show. You in Vegas longer than forty eight hours? You living real wicked? Tillout right?

My dog young Nacho Young t How you were man?

Man, I'm chilling. Bro. We got an o g in a building.

All right, Bro, we're trying to get him on the show.

Four minutes.

That should be a good man.

We've been about to shoutut to camp help making this happen. Shout out to the team and hey, look the Botty Door series. It is for real, for real. We all been bout the last couple of days for show about the door. I don't the rest of my stuff packed, bro, I ain't even about for sure, Amember till my left. We got an NBA legend. We got my man, a pioneer head of his game, but how he played in the NBA, the Max That Podcast. We got the O g Vernon Maxwell, Big Dog. Appreciate you sliding on this man, Man.

Appreciate y'all having me. Man. I can't wait to do this ship. I've been wondering why you niggas took so long to get me on this motherfucker Man, I don't know what the fuck y'all been doing.

What's been the hold up?

Though? I don't know you niggas Chris's motherfucker. I got them. Y'all did damn hundred shows, one hundred of motherfucker one I suppost have been in the top five. What the fuck are we doing?

You're kicking off the new season?

Man? Okay, well a number one?

My god, show man.

Listen.

Maybe we try to get you Indiana, but you be treating Indiana like you tall man.

Well, you know, the motherfuckers a lot of muffle. They ain't got a lot of internet, you know, So you got to that Utah ship. The motherfuckers. That's a whole nother motherfucker people. Their motherfucker's black ass motherfucker here. You know we I mean, but if you want me to elaborate about them motherfuckers. But like I was talking to these guys today, I did a podcast earlier today with some guys, they from Utah, and they was like, ask me, Max, damn, man, why are you so on you talk? Man? You motherfucker y'all so weird. Motherfucker's got four five wives, and ship Mormon asked, who do that? I wish I could. I'm a single motherfucker. I wish I have motherfucker four women in the one house at one time. Mitch, that's your day is Monday, and BET's your day is Tuesday. And that's your day is Wednesday, and Bess your day is Thursday. So I want to do that. Yes, your damn, I ain't got nobody. Don't nobody want my so because I ain't worth to be warned. I want to be out there. That's where I want to live. I'm getting ready to move out there. Hey, you're gonna have boy. You know, I keep telling you, motherfucker, it's different out there.

You know.

The mountains. Jeff, No, you're flying the goddamn you talk. You flying too a little hole. It's a little hole in that motherfucker. That's where Carl Malone should drive that motherfucker eighteen wheeler in the games. And I said, damn, what taka pulling up an eighteen hat a fucking basketball game? What makes sense? Now?

Carl got a word.

Case was around, Well, Car, I love you boy, I love your car. I ain't got nothing to do with that ship that just said we had the same age. I fuck with you. Remember Max didn't say that ship hey. But no, Carl, you pulled up in there with that big ass eighteen wheeler one time. I was like, man, this nigga dorove the cab. He had the back of the fucking truck and the and the cab on the front. He pulled a whole team willerd in the goddamn down there with a bus. Well, I was like, man, who fucking got an eighteen willer? They said, the motherfucker When I got the bus, motherfucker said, that's Carl Loan's goddamn say this nigga's loading cowsand what the.

Man?

I don't know, man, It's just weird. That's my mind. That's why I say all the time. All my boys they know Cam Junior. All my people's know, I ain't got nobody, don't want nobody. I just want to hang something in somebody crazy. But we got to talk about it.

Man.

Obviously, you know how polarized you are off the court, but you are a pioneer your game back in the day. Now you see everybody coming in and don't nobody shoot nothing but threes. But like that was how you hung your hat early on audio defense housing. Now to see the game transition to where everybody got to shoot that and you was a special that because I know a couple of years in a row you was like you led the league and made threes.

Oh boy, that's a great question. Oh man, yeah, man, Now shit, I'll be a three hundred million dollar motherfucker like these young boys out here, Tatum and and Brown. I'll be one of them motherfuckers. Ship, yeah, because that's all that's what the games went to. Now. They want motherfuckers to shoot. They want a lot of scoring and make it exciting. And they got the big guys out there in the way of the goddamn guards shooting threes and Ship and all this bullshit. Well it's cool, though, I mean, I don't really like the game the way the game's being played right now, but I respect the game and I respect what these young boys are doing. And I was, I really love the money they they're fucking getting. God damn, well I couldn't get done that. Damn, this ship is fucked up. There's some fun dumb shit, yes, yes, I mean for real, man, for real though, I mean, goddamn, man, you can aage fucking fourteen points and you got damn get eighty million. Man, goddamn man, goddamn nigga, I aage eighteen a night. Goddamn damn, I can't damn, Oh my goodness, mind just fucking me up.

But they're amazing how the game grown up from like like even from when I played, like to see the money going up even more. Like we had a moment the other day. I was talking about Max Christy getting eight million, and at a time when I got like that, it was like, damn, eight million was good, But now like eight million is like the bottom.

That's that's like the bottom of the total. But to see it grow, yeah, well, you know, the these TV deals that's where the money come at. Now they got to pay these motherfuckers from the TV deals, so I mean, and they get a bigger deal getting ready to come down. So served find to get absurd. So I mean, I mean, the TV deals is crazy, man, So that's why they're getting these guys, these young guys getting this money. But I ain't mad at him because Doctor J came in before me, and and I'm sure Doctor Jay was like, damn, how Max was making more of motherfucking money I made, you know what I mean, Doctor J. I wasn't my Jordan's you know, God, you know I love Michael Jordans, but you know what he'd done and competitive and we competed against each other. But doctor J was my guy. And I'm like saying, damn, Doctor J probably saying the same damn thing I'm saying right now about these young guys. Damn these young guys. I'll bust these motherfuckers, you know what I mean? And what it's the TV deals and I get it, and I understand where it's coming from. So and I'm I'm happy for it. So, shit, I got a son, I got two sons coming up. Shit. I hope one of the motherfuckers get some of this motherfucker bag or what they call it, a bag of bread whatever the they call it, like chicken man.

And it's crazy, Like you're talking about how he was playing games involved, Now what's interesting you talk about TV deals and like, I think, I hope it doesn't come to an end, but it's kind of what it's looking like your teammate Kenny Smith, like, for what they did, I think that more people need to pay attention to how inside the NBA helped perpetuate that. I know that's not the only thing about that, but the wait that they covered the game, especially today's my era with social media, they helped project a lot of people to have their own brands or own rebuttals to do stuff like this. How was that to see him go from your teammates to see what he's doing.

Now, well, I already told that motherfucker. You know Kenny and my nigga, you know, I love you boy. I told him, I said that's what he was going to be a commentator, because you know, Kenny speaks so fluid and so well, you know, he's so educated and shit, you know what I mean. But I told him, nigga, us a decent I'm sorry, Kenny was a great faultfler. I have to take that to this motherfucker because I know he's gonna see this shit. But yeah, but Ken was a great ballplayer. But you know what I mean. But I always said to Kenny, I knew he was going to be an announcer or some former fashion doing that shit. What he's doing with TNT, I mean it's I mean, it's great. I mean I'd love to see Kenny up there because you know, he always brings my ass up and a lot of conversations always and I'll be like, God, Damn, Kenny, why you put me in this ship. I'm over here smoking this guy Damn Blunt over here getting high and you got me and this ship. Man, I'm just watching you, nigga what we're talking about? Kidding? But I mean so, but I love what Kenny's doing. That's my guy, you know. Can I love his family. I know it, I know it. Kenny knew my family. I knew his family. I mean we live next door to each other. It was like next door neighbors, Me and this motherfucker. I mean this is weird. And I mean so, I mean that's my guy. I love him to death. And kudos to my nigga. You know, he know I love him so much.

So yeah, it's always waiting to see Kenny like how he like run now with like his knees held us ever to play knocking.

No, No, that shit got worse when he got older. That got worse because that nigga wasn't running like that. That nigga the jet. Remember they called that nigga the jet. That's what nigga, not that nigga clocking knees and the company be running up that month and he'd be making sure y'all niggas don't get ready to beat me up. Hold on, now, you know I'm meeting. I'm just that mother be ready because them knigs getting ready to hit up again. Let me stop talking about Kenny. Come on my show. I love you.

Come on.

All right. I'm just hey boy, you know we do we Hey, you know what this is.

Listen, man, I gotta ask you about this. We from that. You know what I'm saying. Pioneers Indian paces. You know what I'm saying. What they did at the palace, But it was a og and that you was one of the first people to get active in the stead.

I gotta ask you who was worse than the Portland fild. Well, well, I'm gonna put Portland because the motherfucker was talking about my motherfucker still born daughter. You know what I mean? That was a problem. You know, I ain't. I mean, I kept telling them security God, I was like yo, I telling my I was like, yo, do you hear what this motherfucking white boy saying by my goddamn people? And I said, and I well, true enough. I probably shouldn't have brought my ass back that early, but I felt like that was my sanctuary where I can go and release and not think about my still born daughter and shit like that. And the white boy and Nike we all broadcasted and they put like, you know, Vernon Maxwell Amber, they put her name on my shoes and shit all that bullshit. And the white boy behind me was talking crazy like fuck that bitch, fucked that whore. And I was like telling them, security guy, sit behind the bench. I was like, man, you better go straighten this motherfucker up. So security guy tell me Max, I can't do that. Man, he pays money. It's a not alone as a nigga. Nigga sitting behind me talking about, Man, I can't do that. Man. He pays, he pays his money for that ticket. I say what I said, Okay, I said, Man, do you hear what this man saying to me? So he was like, I can't do nothing, Max. So and then Kenny was sitting aside me, and I think Tim Brow was another guy that you know, my guy, Tim Bro was up. You shot that boy ship, uh but uh, he was sitting aside me. He was trying to tell me, Mack, come on, man, chill now, chill, don't don't do it. Don't do it. But I'm telling man, fuck you, motherfucking white boy. I'm telling him like this here, I'm cussing and fussing and ship. And then so I got fed up with it. I got tired. I kept telling this nigga. So I got up. And when I got up, and the nigga was like, oh he stood up, and the nigga, I was like, get your bitch ass. I shoved that nigga about over there till that god damn whiskey ball across that bar. I slung that mother across the bar. I went up there and you see, y'all see it. I walked like patiently. I walked patiently. Terminator. Oh lord, I just bam bam bam, and I slapped the ship out of it. Wasn't worth the money, the money, the mother. I ain't no, goddamn, I say, damn. They told me how much I'll make it, god damn. And ten days and it took five hundred from old nigga and ten games. I was like, goddamn, I ain't won't do it like that, mother, Goddamn. I should have.

I should have tried to get that out.

Of the game. It was, it was. It was a bad it was, but and then and then and then that that was fucked up. And then the rockets fucked over me too, and they bought Clyde in and they didn't even through my whole suspension, the whole ten games. The motherfuckers never did call me. No I did never called me and checked on me and said, barn you're working out, you good, your mental stages all right, nigga, cause we know you mental health, nigga. You know you all right, you know so. But nobody never knowing, none of my teammates, nobody never there on me, nobody. I was just out on the golf course, just hit my golf ball and ship. Nobody never called me. Then they bought Clyde in on me without saying anything to me. After I had bought two championships, I mean one champion of first championship, and that motherfucker when they would never won without me, because goddamn in game three, god damn it, when we went out the uh Phoenix ship, we was down two ship and goddamn if Max don't go out there and do what I did. I had third in the second half. Damn will I turned that whole motherfucker serious around for f H town, you know what I mean, And we won that. God damn. I told Dream, come on, baby boy, this is my night to night. Take come on. Now you're the guy, but it's mass Max night tonight. Jeff. You know what it's like cooking. I got the cooking that in the second half. I had two. At the half, I was on some drunk ship I was. I was in the club with the white business out there finished. You know how I did, Jeff? You know somebody that party with the white miss nights for the game. Because I ain't worried about damn moll the fu damn I'm ready bust my glass. I got a white ball me and no white boy never got me. So I'm getting ready, like, ain't no white boy done. Man, fuck that ship. So I went. I turned the fucking seriously and then ship we won the first championship ever in Houston history, no baseball, football or nothing. That was the first championship. And I think I was a big I did that Ship. He was Shore you was they wanted not happen without game three. We come and went down O three to the motherfuckers Charles Marklay and the motherfucker's kJ and the motherfuckers and yeah and yeah, man, so fuck that. So yeah, Mad Max, how you get the name mad mat shop? The white folks, you know how they do they change your name, you know, like slaves and ship like you know how the white folk do you know, like the cool Kent that motherfucker name one cool motherfucker. His name was like Vernon. They changed that motherfucker name is cool, you know what I mean? Because he kept running, you know what I mean? So, but that's what they did to me though. That The vote of the story is that the white folks. You know, I was out there, I was wilding I was wild, motherfucker, so wild, like a motherfucker out there. So the white folks changed my name. I'm gonna call him. She said, Damn Vernon. She said, baby, my mom come and said, baby, I don't even I don't know who the fuck you is right now. And I was like, Mom, what are you talking about? She said, why do they call you Mad Max? I say Damn? I said, Mom, probably Ship I be doing. And she was like, babe, you need to chill, baby, I don't know you like this? What what what's going on? So the white folks changed my name from Vernon. Then they started calling me mad Max and so so I told my mom, I said, Ship, that's the reason why the motherfuckers changed my name. They ain't call nobody. Don't call me nobody never. That's a weird ass name, really, Vernon. Who fucking named Vernon? Who fucking named Vernon? Vernon Mack. There's a lot of god damn cams. There's a lot of motherfucking juniors who fucking named Vernon? You know, no fucking body. I was like, Mom, what.

Ain't too many names? You made a stayed before it.

So the motherfuckers changed my name from Burning to math Max because all the antics and ship is a dope name. Though.

Yeah, I thought you got that, you know in the neighborhood or you know, runker somewhere wherever you played.

I wish I could have got paid for that ship. Look I got I lost a lot of money with that motherfucker name Nigga. That ship went backwards. It was swimming up the stream. It was like a salmon nigger. God damn, I was fucking up nigga jigger ship funk that I bought it in that bullshit.

Let's go back to the whole ship though. Man, how did you end up at Florida?

Oh? Man? Yeah, well, I was gonna go to uh uh North Carolina State had just won the national championship eighty three, you know, yeah, sending low Yep my guys, yep, Lorenzo Charles and all them girls, thorough Bailey, all those guys. I went up to visit them, and ship, man, they flew they playing down the games. I'm from Gainesville, Florida. I'm a coutry for like I said, I'm a country ass, bunking ass nigga. I had never ever been nowhere, and the motherfuckers flew their playing down there to get me some games, and my mom told me for I went up to say, nigga, my mom talked to me like she was like my daddy. She said, she's I really don't know my dad, so I don't have a dad, so she was like my dad. So she was like, hey, nigga, let me tell you something. You better not sign a motherfucking piece of paper. I said, because you know, we had Florida University of Florida. I'm in the backyard of the University of Florida. I live a mile away from the University of Florida. So she know, these white folks already told niggas, we're getting ready to pay you. So nigga, don't you fuck my money up. My mom said, nigga, don't go fuck my money up, nigga. So, yeah, il being ship. But they getting paid good money now. But my n l my ship was like two hundred and I was back in the early eighties, you know what I mean. So that was a big good one. I moved my mom out the fucking hood to a little men lever asked a fucking place.

You know.

She ain't wasn't in the project. She had a house you know what I mean. So I was able to do that ship and uh, but the University of Florida, it was a blessing for me, man, because I knew all the dope spots was and ship. I knew all the dope spots was, you know, because I mean, I mean, I'm a realize nigga. Man, I'm gonna tell you that, y'all. Y'all got me on the small pot. I'm gonna tell y'all the real man. I was on cocaine in college and ship, and I was on marijuana. I smoked marijuana still today. But and I was an alcoholic too. So in college I did all three of those fucking those drugs to me. So I did all three of those and that and for me to take it coming out of there, I mean it was dangerous for me to stay it in Gainesville. But I knew I couldn't leave Gainesville. It was it was like a double edged sword, like I couldn't leave, and I needed to leave, you know, I needed to lead to get away from that, you know what I mean. But I've decided to stay in that ship and that infested the ass pond. Like I keep saying, Yeah, Gainesville Florida, and and I got caught up and I went to Florida. All time leaders scored at the University of Florid today talking motherfuckers don't stay in school long enough to do what I did. You know, Yes, first back in the day when I came, when I came out, you know your ass do four years, you know, and that shit wasn't heard of one and done that. It was like two motherfuckers. I saw that. I mean, like Darryl Dawkins and these other motherfuckers had done that. I mean, so we never really heard about one and uns like going to costs for one year and and then I mean get a bag. So I did four years. That's how I became the all time leading scorer at the University of Florida, you know what I mean. I got twenty eight sixty, you know, and the second time, my all time leading scored in SEC history behind Pistol p yeah still today. So but yeah, well it was I mean I had to I had to stay there because I had never been nowhere. I went. They flew me, they brought that goddamn plane down that goddamn Gainesville and they flew me over to Raleigh, North Carolina. Man, that's the longest fucking flight I ever heard. That shit wasn't done for an hour. And my ass had never been on a plane or nothing. That ship was the longest fucking flight. I said, Oh shit, these white folks say, I ain't never been this far away from my house. Now I can't.

Now.

I was like nervous. So and then I got off the plane. They showed me Valvana. God bless you, Jimmy, Jimmy Valvana. He showed me a great time. And that's probably where I should have went to. But I mean I still did good. What a way I went to. But I'm just saying, but Viole Vanna was a great visit, and I mean, man, it was just it was a blessing, man. I mean just just staying in Florida. Man. I had to stay there, man, because I mean shit, my mom was gonna let me leave because I was a mama's boy.

Yeah, And that's the interest you say that, like you said, like double ed shorter situation like me staying changes a lot for your family instantly, no matter what happened to the rest of it. I know my family good if I make this move. But also you probably need a little bit of space to cand developing your own, to get away from people.

You have talked about that. You know, your colleg decision.

You wanted to kind of stay home, but you was like that could have been detrimental to being home.

Too close to home.

Yeah, if I was too close to home, I would have been with the guys, you know what I mean. So I don't know if I would have made it to the NBA because my focus might not have been the same. But getting away from home and going to Wake Force, being eight hours away, ain't had no choice but to like lock in and focus for sure.

That's right. Yeah, that's what now was my thing. See, I know I could have been a better college player if i'd just call. Like I said, Man, I was on cocaine in marijuana, and I was an alcoholic man and so and I'm still scored twenty eight sixty, you know what I mean. And so I don't even know half of the days. And shit, I don't remember half of the day you sit down to college, you know what I mean? Because I was so fucked up, you know what I mean a lot of times I go to practice, and shit, I just sit there and college and shit. I'd be like, shit, fuck that, I ain't practicing day. Shit you want me to day or you can get me in game day tomorrow. Shit he said, I'll get you tomorrow to sit there there, you sit there. So that's what I used to do. So, I mean I used to be I used to be hung over that cocaine because cocaine make a step all night, man, and got them cocaine buggets and shit, you be digging all day. And I mean just see, it's a lot of shit you deal with, man. But I mean, unfortunately, I really don't know how I made it because two weeks before the drift, we was out there and Combine in Orlando working out and ship. You know, we ain't have it wasn't cell phones back then. It was like newspaper. You get up in the morning and you go out there at the Combine where we was at. We open the door. We get to USA today. See where you read USA today? We read the USA today. And then I went to get to the USA today. It was like ten days before the drift and I was getting I get to the USA today. I pick up the goddamn paper. I don't fuck all that damn political ship I go straight to the sports and I can flip to the sports. I'm looking at my goddamn face on the fucking on the fucking you and on the on the front of the forest on the sports page. I'm like, what the fuck is sad? Would I do?

So?

Unfortunately, God bless him, my college coach done leaked out that I was. I was supposed to be top ten gord. I was supposed to be top ten lottery pick. Yeah. But my my college coach, he leaked out that, you know, and he said to me, and he told it to my mom that if it's up to him, I wasn't gonna make it. Yeah, That's that's what he told me. When I was a senior. After I told this motherfuckers, I was gonna I should have left my junior year. But I stayed because my mom was like, get your degree, nigga, and you know where you can have something to fall back on in case this ship don't work out for you, nigga. And so I was like, all right, man, I don't really want to do this ship. I don't really want to fuck with this boy, this white boy, this coach, you know, because we we didn't get along. I mean, but he couldn't stop me from being on the floor because I'm from Gainesville, Florida, all alumnis, you know what I mean. They got my back. They're gonna get rid of that coach before they get rid of me, you know, because I you know, you flunk three drug tests at the University of Florida when I was there, and you kicked out the school. Shit. I forunk a fucking hundred of them my freshman year, damn, you know what I mean. So that's how they put a bandage on this ship for me, you know what I mean. So, but I'm just saying, man, I mean, it's.

Just so he booted you into the second round. He's the reason why you got I wok around.

I went from top ten to forty eighth pick, and I had to make a fucking team. I got drafted by Denver forty eight, supposed to have been sh top ten, and they traded me the night that same night when I got drafted San Antonio Spurs and yeah, so and I went there and I went there. Shit, then I went there. I had a nigga way way crazy than me, you know. Alvon Robinson a quadruple double nigga. You know ten rebound, ten assists, ten steals, you know, ten punts. You know, this nigga was crazy. He's I mean, he was an all star guy, so I mean, and this dude was physical. It's I knew I had to I had to get my I had to get myself, you know, build my body up because I was, you know, looking at me. Shit, I don't went number one hundred and eighty two pounds, so I mean, but back then, my heavenest weight I ever wore my whole life was one hundred and ninety five pounds. When I played in the NBA, I said, heavens I ever been. Everybody I played against was six six six seven, I mean two hundred and eighteen, two hundred and five. I'm one ninety fucking you know. I mean, I'm a little ass guy, man. But I just my heart took me over through all that shit. Man. I mean, I played with heart, and you know, Jeffery passion and I don't give a fuck about a nigga and another another color jersey. You know, it's cut the oat nigga show.

And I got to ask me to talked about this recently, but I just loved the conversation. You know, MJ was garden with hard. Excuse me, guarding MJ was pretty hard, but that but that that man up there, and you know what I'm saying with the nets he was there.

He was the hardest assignment you had to deal with. Who God blessings you're talking about? Boy hoo boy Oh Petra Fitch, Boy, God God, I rather got that motherfucker. And Michael didn't guard Petrovitch. That motherfucker was something else. Man driving Petrovitch, Man, God bless you guy. Man that man. I just tell Rudy t treat this motherfucker like you treat Mike. You know, we treat it. I just tell him, man, don't don't let motherfucker when he come out the game, brain my ass out the game, when he come to the goddamn table. Meant, let me meet him at the table. I don't want nobody guarding this motherfucker because this bis can get to get the going real quick, and it's gonna be hard to cut this motherfucker water off. I mean, I mean, I just be like, man, fuck that Mandy man Broody, treat this motherfucker. And then one night he didn't do that. Man, I was like, oh my goodness, this motherfucker was in Houston. Yes, mother, and this mother he him't he talked. He talked that talk with his head. They don't say Ship he do this, he gonna do it that. I said, all this bitch dunk out fire. When the motherfucker in the game, that motherfucker lit one of them niggas up. I forget who it was. I ain't gonna say nobody names. I love all my teammates, Rock, we got you got the motherfucker going though. Whoever he was, he got the motherfucker going. And they put me back in that motherfer trying to cut off the water. Boy, I couldn't do it. But that's the that's the worst cover in the world. Drips on petroviitch Man, I'm trying to tell y'all, man, y'all just pay homage to this motherfucker. Man. This motherfucker was a killer man. You know.

It's funny they, I mean, maybe not on the same level, but they kind of compare him with the same going crazy like Luca.

There was like Luca, diagree, I fucking agree, Luca is a fucking killer too. Yeah, I agree, yes, yes, yeah, But ship drops and he he he. They used to run that motherfucker off three four screens. You have to chase this motherfucker. And then when he get that motherfucker, he catched that bitch. This way, he squap. This motherfucker squalled this way in the air and just bit I mean three. This motherfucker is unbelievable. Man, I'm telling you, man, if this guy wouldn't have, if we would have kill himself on the outer barn, man, this guy would have been so special. Man. This guy was a special guy. Man. Man, he was, Oh my goodness, I don't I really don't like to give that motherfucker out of props, but that motherfucker's to fuck me. Come on and Mike and I tell everybody that's where you got it from. I know you got that ship from. He's a fuck me up. I hate guarding that motherfucker, he said. But before I got how was it going base?

I mean, every time we hear about it, it was just like Mike was just the morals.

It kills me.

I know the competitor in you, you still went at it. But how was it dealaler with the goat?

Well, you asked better get some sleep the night before I'm gonna tell you now, that's one motherfucker right there now. I used to go lay down and and put my elevate my mother fucking feet above my heart. Like my mom just say, put your feet abull your heart, baby before you play him. It's gonna bring some energy to uncomfortable. So I used to left. I do it damn with my mamas to say, I said, only motherfucker. I used to stay home. My wife used to be glad for that when Mike come in town, because I really never used to stay home. My wife used to be glad when Mike come to this nigga. Look at his ass now because Mike and him look at this nigga, he gonna lay his ass down now. Yeah, because this motherfucker black Jesus man that way, I called him in the best player I ever played against.

Man.

I mean, I mean, it's no comparison two. I mean, I mean, I mean, Lebron Khudos man, you hell of a nigga. Man, you got your son damn drafted. That ship's weird. I mean, but hey, man, if I could do that ship Lebron nigga, I would do it too. I fuck that ship, nigga, man, that you keep that ship going by what you're doing, you running the damn leave. I'm just what we was just talking about.

I'm talking about Michael Jordan.

Okay, yeah, I got okay you I had to throw that ship in there.

Ship. I got a son coming next year and the car I'm gonna put him in the goddamn come by. Yeah it was more than four points, and God damn I won't, God damn litten get them a shot this ship because ship and see if we could get drafted number fifty five ship one of the motherfucking picts in the second round. Ship. I'm just saying, man, I swum that I mean, but uh, I back to my Mike was the best player ever. Man. That motherfucker spunked on me one day and we was in Houston. He spunked on me. I said, oh Lord, that like he's like disappeared. It's like it's like it's like this bitch just disappeared. This bitch spunk on me. So this bitch is so gifted, man, I never seen nothing. He's so strong, fast, and I mean can handle. And I don't think his handle was that good. I think his hand was so big that he used to lose that ship, and he'll grab that bitch with his hands. So got big hands all us. He was grown that month for you. And but man, that man spend on me and he and he took off, and you know that damn jump man on the bottom. I was that mother buck was right. And then I was like, I laughed at it. I laughed because I took off and ran down the court because I knew the nigga had done. I knew it in there. I know everybody. He was like, oh, ship, they just to come see the dunk show before the games. And I knew, so I knew. I just took off running and he he came back. He came up behind me and the nigga hit me on my ass. I said, oh, no, bitch as, don't put goddamn hand, don't put your money hands on me. My nigga, I bitch, I beat you now. I love the game just as nigga. Don't put your goddamn hands on me. Nigga.

So and then that's when y'all see it's just like everybody see this part.

We were back face and face. I was like, man, but I don't touch me. Nigga. You're the best nigga I ever played against. Nigga. Don't put your hands on me, though, Nigga, Nigga, I hate guarding you ask Yeah, Man, that was that was That was like that was ship man. That was another fucking that's some ship right there, Mike. Man, that guy was unbelievable man to be one thousand man. I mean, I'm just glad I was able to say ship and everybody give me homage, but ship they don't give like motherfucker. I was just following that motherfucker down in the lodge. One. Logan was the best defensive player on the fucking league from fucking back in them days for three four years in a row. Defensive Player of the Year, blocking everything. You know, he don't give a fuck if he get dunked on. He don't give a fucking Mike coming in dunk on him, shout out funding his glass on down there, don't get that ship and I'll be out there waiting on the break. So that's what it is, man, Mike is the best ever man. Love you boy, man, Listen, this has been great.

Og.

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Appreciate you Max.

Let's go, but appreciate y'all.

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