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Coming up on the podcast today, John Aitken joins us Maths is back in.

Coming up on the podcast today, John Aitken joins us Maths is back in.

Town and of course there's been a heat way, But we asked you when was the hottest you've ever been?

Town and of course there's been a heat way, But we asked you when was the hottest you've ever been?

Matt had Graft swings bid to talk Billy Joel and Elton John featuring in his upcoming fringe shows.

Matt had Graft swings bid to talk Billy Joel and Elton John featuring in his upcoming fringe shows.

It was a packed sure report, including another celeb doing a shoey once in Australia, and.

It was a packed sure report, including another celeb doing a shoey once in Australia, and.

Peter Garrett talks to us about his upcoming show in a very unconventional space.

Peter Garrett talks to us about his upcoming show in a very unconventional space.

He won't be doing any shoeies.

He won't be doing any shoeies.

Here we go again. She played White Snake.

Here we go again. She played White Snake.

Go again.

Go again.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Look, we've got a great cast this year. They're very unfiltered and raw. Yes, slightly younger this year, but we have some real interesting twists along the way. One of the things that I noticed that hasn't happened before is that TikTok social media is really influencing people's approaches to dating and relationships, and this year those really extreme mindsets show up on the experiments. So we have our trade wives, we have our men with their warrior mindsets, and they're very, very fixed about what they want and what they won't put up with. And there's no commitment they don't want because they are able to swipe, you know, out in the real world so quickly. So it's very transactional.

Look, we've got a great cast this year. They're very unfiltered and raw. Yes, slightly younger this year, but we have some real interesting twists along the way. One of the things that I noticed that hasn't happened before is that TikTok social media is really influencing people's approaches to dating and relationships, and this year those really extreme mindsets show up on the experiments. So we have our trade wives, we have our men with their warrior mindsets, and they're very, very fixed about what they want and what they won't put up with. And there's no commitment they don't want because they are able to swipe, you know, out in the real world so quickly. So it's very transactional.

This is the thing what they won't put up with.

This is the thing what they won't put up with.

There's very little negotiations, it seems these days, among people, and they're gonna I mean you, I would think you'd have to snap out of that.

There's very little negotiations, it seems these days, among people, and they're gonna I mean you, I would think you'd have to snap out of that.

Well, that's one of our roles this year is really to shake them up and say listen.

Well, that's one of our roles this year is really to shake them up and say listen.

It doesn't know given that's right, there's got to.

It doesn't know given that's right, there's got to.

Be some compromise here. But they love being in their fem roles and their masculine roles, and they're very particular about deal breakers. And they've always got this sense of the grass is greener and if this person it doesn't take every single one of these many boxes, then John, you're to blame. You're a failure, and I'm going to have you up on it.

Be some compromise here. But they love being in their fem roles and their masculine roles, and they're very particular about deal breakers. And they've always got this sense of the grass is greener and if this person it doesn't take every single one of these many boxes, then John, you're to blame. You're a failure, and I'm going to have you up on it.

Actually, this is really serious, this attitude that has developed, because it is it is completely a false world that they think exists.

Actually, this is really serious, this attitude that has developed, because it is it is completely a false world that they think exists.

Yes, and John, what do you foresee down the track?

Yes, and John, what do you foresee down the track?

In twenty years has been the stage of relationships.

In twenty years has been the stage of relationships.

Well, I'm hoping that people realize that, you know, getting your dating and relationship advice from TikTok actually probably is not the best thing to do. You're better off to go and meet someone face to face or talk to someone who's got expertise about it. And I think there is a move going back to that, you know, people getting to running clubs where they're trying to you know, actually converse with people face to face rather than just on apps which are very physically based.

Well, I'm hoping that people realize that, you know, getting your dating and relationship advice from TikTok actually probably is not the best thing to do. You're better off to go and meet someone face to face or talk to someone who's got expertise about it. And I think there is a move going back to that, you know, people getting to running clubs where they're trying to you know, actually converse with people face to face rather than just on apps which are very physically based.

Yeah, you're what about the swiping thing though, because there was a time I think, you know, my mum and dad' z Eira when they broke up. Mum was a shame that it was. There was a divorce, the divorce came up, whereas now it's so easy for popping, but it feels like it's easier and like you said, deal breakers.

Yeah, you're what about the swiping thing though, because there was a time I think, you know, my mum and dad' z Eira when they broke up. Mum was a shame that it was. There was a divorce, the divorce came up, whereas now it's so easy for popping, but it feels like it's easier and like you said, deal breakers.

That's right. And so what you see on the show is these very different mindsets that we haven't seen before. That's one of the secret sources of the shows that we tap into the zeitguys. So if it's gas lighting, it'll show up on our show. If it's people speaking their truth only.

That's right. And so what you see on the show is these very different mindsets that we haven't seen before. That's one of the secret sources of the shows that we tap into the zeitguys. So if it's gas lighting, it'll show up on our show. If it's people speaking their truth only.

Fan God, I hate that expression.

Fan God, I hate that expression.

Speak truth.

Speak truth.

This year it's all about social.

This year it's all about social.

Well, this is very interesting. You have a real responsibility.

Well, this is very interesting. You have a real responsibility.

Yeah, the show is now a cautionary tale. It's so many things and it could well hopefully be the thing that you know, you can pivot on and start getting people to understand that it's not how it is on TikTok.

Yeah, the show is now a cautionary tale. It's so many things and it could well hopefully be the thing that you know, you can pivot on and start getting people to understand that it's not how it is on TikTok.

I think there's gonna be a lot of noise around it because people will hear things and go, really, you don't want a woman with any ambition or career? Is that really what you're you're telling me? So get ready for that, Get ready for couples. That twist this year is that one of our couples knew each other.

I think there's gonna be a lot of noise around it because people will hear things and go, really, you don't want a woman with any ambition or career? Is that really what you're you're telling me? So get ready for that, Get ready for couples. That twist this year is that one of our couples knew each other.

Okay, do we matched? It's taken ten years, but yeah.

Okay, do we matched? It's taken ten years, but yeah.

They walk down the aisle, they turn around and go oh you oh really yes, Yeah, we've never had that before, but we leaned into it. What's going to happen? Can they turn it around? And will they use the help of the experts to get through this? So that's very interesting. Also, we have a very key I guess challenge at the end of the experiment we call the final test week, and that's never been done before. We threw it at the couples because they know what's coming. Generally they've seen eleven seasons of it. Yeah, so we did this to shake them up, and it really did and it gets them to think about, Okay, what do we do with temptation here? So that's all I'll tell you about it. But it really does wrong to a number of our couples.

They walk down the aisle, they turn around and go oh you oh really yes, Yeah, we've never had that before, but we leaned into it. What's going to happen? Can they turn it around? And will they use the help of the experts to get through this? So that's very interesting. Also, we have a very key I guess challenge at the end of the experiment we call the final test week, and that's never been done before. We threw it at the couples because they know what's coming. Generally they've seen eleven seasons of it. Yeah, so we did this to shake them up, and it really did and it gets them to think about, Okay, what do we do with temptation here? So that's all I'll tell you about it. But it really does wrong to a number of our couples.

It's easy for us to curate people curate their lives, especially on social media, but you can't under the you know, once they're on the show, they can only last for a while, can't it the real person in the mind?

It's easy for us to curate people curate their lives, especially on social media, but you can't under the you know, once they're on the show, they can only last for a while, can't it the real person in the mind?

That's right, I'd say, you know, I mean, you can get through about two or three weeks, but because it's a ten week experience, you know, you got pretty much cameras on. You're twenty four to seven from about six am in the morning. The masks come off after about three weeks, and then you really see the true selves come out, and particularly their patterns in relationships, you know, because they're not very aware of what they're like, and they really struggle when it comes to intimacy, and so you see it play out. And then one of our roles with the experts is to really hold that mirror up and say, this is how you're running your life romantically, what are you going to do here? Because there's a problem and a number of the times I just don't want to hear it.

That's right, I'd say, you know, I mean, you can get through about two or three weeks, but because it's a ten week experience, you know, you got pretty much cameras on. You're twenty four to seven from about six am in the morning. The masks come off after about three weeks, and then you really see the true selves come out, and particularly their patterns in relationships, you know, because they're not very aware of what they're like, and they really struggle when it comes to intimacy, and so you see it play out. And then one of our roles with the experts is to really hold that mirror up and say, this is how you're running your life romantically, what are you going to do here? Because there's a problem and a number of the times I just don't want to hear it.

I'm so stuck on this something about the people that know each other, because I'm thinking it wouldn't be interesting to see what their dynamic was when they knew each other, Like if it was one that ran for the hills and the other one was disappointed.

I'm so stuck on this something about the people that know each other, because I'm thinking it wouldn't be interesting to see what their dynamic was when they knew each other, Like if it was one that ran for the hills and the other one was disappointed.

That it stopped us. I'm key to see how that plays out.

That it stopped us. I'm key to see how that plays out.

I'll let you find out about that, because how that ended, really, you're quite right, was very heavily influential in how they were able to get together this time on our show, you know, so stay tuned for that one.

I'll let you find out about that, because how that ended, really, you're quite right, was very heavily influential in how they were able to get together this time on our show, you know, so stay tuned for that one.

All right. So we've got five people from w A. That's definitely the most that we've ever had, Yes.

All right. So we've got five people from w A. That's definitely the most that we've ever had, Yes.

And they're fantastic. You know, they're a great cast from w A. And they are all of them really give everything of themselves, you know, which is what you need. You don't want them narrating their image or trying to, you know, be someone behind closed doors. It's different on camera.

And they're fantastic. You know, they're a great cast from w A. And they are all of them really give everything of themselves, you know, which is what you need. You don't want them narrating their image or trying to, you know, be someone behind closed doors. It's different on camera.

We're saying that they think that, yeah, that's right.

We're saying that they think that, yeah, that's right.

That's right. But these guys from w A really just laid it all out on the table.

That's right. But these guys from w A really just laid it all out on the table.

Yeah, from different walks of life, similar ages, but very very very different.

Yeah, from different walks of life, similar ages, but very very very different.

We got I think Paul. He's a Frenchman, a very fit wellness advisor. Karina is very glamorous. Yes, Karina is our fashion easter of the show. She's amazing, but she also very very interestingly. She doesn't like conflict, finds herself in the middle of it almost every week because the dinner parties are so extreme. Jake's very quirky and his match is very interesting in terms of how unique and special they are. Afena is our solo parent and she's very much hard on a sleeve, okay, gives you everything and a lot of emotion. And then Billy, good old Billy Billy the plaster from the UK. He's great, Yeah, I geezer geezer and he rips it up.

We got I think Paul. He's a Frenchman, a very fit wellness advisor. Karina is very glamorous. Yes, Karina is our fashion easter of the show. She's amazing, but she also very very interestingly. She doesn't like conflict, finds herself in the middle of it almost every week because the dinner parties are so extreme. Jake's very quirky and his match is very interesting in terms of how unique and special they are. Afena is our solo parent and she's very much hard on a sleeve, okay, gives you everything and a lot of emotion. And then Billy, good old Billy Billy the plaster from the UK. He's great, Yeah, I geezer geezer and he rips it up.

And here the mummies by self proclaimed possibly he is good luck.

And here the mummies by self proclaimed possibly he is good luck.

To he's a good look and he's very fun that he likes it up every time he's on screen.

To he's a good look and he's very fun that he likes it up every time he's on screen.

It's still a ratings juggernaut. Yeah, you know, we talk about it every year. I guess I guess you answered it in some way when you talked earlier about how it's ever evolving. You know, this year we are dealing with that whole online effect on the way people think relationships should work. And everyone's the most important person in their own world these days. So I guess it's we evolve as it evolves, and we're all.

It's still a ratings juggernaut. Yeah, you know, we talk about it every year. I guess I guess you answered it in some way when you talked earlier about how it's ever evolving. You know, this year we are dealing with that whole online effect on the way people think relationships should work. And everyone's the most important person in their own world these days. So I guess it's we evolve as it evolves, and we're all.

That's why it continues to rate. Yes, because it's not the same old, same old every week.

That's why it continues to rate. Yes, because it's not the same old, same old every week.

We don't really need to tweak the format that much. Every now and then we'll do something to keep people guessing. But ultimately the show lives and dies on the cast, and they bring in all of their patterns, their backgrounds, the insecurities and vulnerabilities. That really is what makes the show. And then you've got the experts. We're very We go much harder at them now than we did several years ago.

We don't really need to tweak the format that much. Every now and then we'll do something to keep people guessing. But ultimately the show lives and dies on the cast, and they bring in all of their patterns, their backgrounds, the insecurities and vulnerabilities. That really is what makes the show. And then you've got the experts. We're very We go much harder at them now than we did several years ago.

You have to, because they get They behave extremely the bit of bad chat yes yeah, politeness, I'm with you, I'm with the host.

You have to, because they get They behave extremely the bit of bad chat yes yeah, politeness, I'm with you, I'm with the host.

There they don't go you yeah, which is a real so going back, that's right, and I think it's a real key element to the show's success because you know, when you look at reality shows, typically the hosts or the judges, the experts, they're put on a pedestal. They come in, true, they give their opinions, and then they leave and everybody goes, thank you very much. On our show, we give our opinions and they go, John, you don't know what you're talking about. Ah, and they.

There they don't go you yeah, which is a real so going back, that's right, and I think it's a real key element to the show's success because you know, when you look at reality shows, typically the hosts or the judges, the experts, they're put on a pedestal. They come in, true, they give their opinions, and then they leave and everybody goes, thank you very much. On our show, we give our opinions and they go, John, you don't know what you're talking about. Ah, and they.

You're right, because no one flicks auce on menu, did they.

You're right, because no one flicks auce on menu, did they.

You know this is the thing, really absolutely, And I look at I look at some of these other reality shows and they're very different to ours because ours this, and you feel it when you go in there into a commitment ceremony and you've got to give feedback. You know, they're not your friends. You know, they are people that you are trying to essentially educate and hold to account and call out bad behavior, and they don't like that, and so they will come at you hard and often they've never been spoken to in a way which really puts the spotlight on it.

You know this is the thing, really absolutely, And I look at I look at some of these other reality shows and they're very different to ours because ours this, and you feel it when you go in there into a commitment ceremony and you've got to give feedback. You know, they're not your friends. You know, they are people that you are trying to essentially educate and hold to account and call out bad behavior, and they don't like that, and so they will come at you hard and often they've never been spoken to in a way which really puts the spotlight on it.

Yeah, okay, I'm curious about his final test because they keep it fresh for you guys as well. Wouldn't it something different?

Yeah, okay, I'm curious about his final test because they keep it fresh for you guys as well. Wouldn't it something different?

Yes? Yes, And I have to say that I was surprised at some of the very poor choices of our participants.

Yes? Yes, And I have to say that I was surprised at some of the very poor choices of our participants.

Oh nothing surprises me and I can't wait not to be surprised or not surprised again for another season.

Oh nothing surprises me and I can't wait not to be surprised or not surprised again for another season.

John, thanks for popping in the smooth.

John, thanks for popping in the smooth.

A pleasure, lovely to see you too.

A pleasure, lovely to see you too.

You too, and we haven't seen it, seen you for a year, but you Benjamin Button, what's going on? You look five years at.

You too, and we haven't seen it, seen you for a year, but you Benjamin Button, what's going on? You look five years at.

Anyone else taking backwards.

Anyone else taking backwards.

I love you, guys, I love you.

I love you, guys, I love you.

It's a bit freaky.

It's a bit freaky.

Maybe it's just all the stress in my life dealing with all these participants.

Maybe it's just all the stress in my life dealing with all these participants.

Budget blush before six twenty.

Budget blush before six twenty.

Thanks guys.

Thanks guys.

That's going to be another hot day in Perth, so we thought we'd take it to the phones today. Okay, not about today's weather or this week's weather, but about when you've been the hottest ever in your life that you can recall.

That's going to be another hot day in Perth, so we thought we'd take it to the phones today. Okay, not about today's weather or this week's weather, but about when you've been the hottest ever in your life that you can recall.

Well, growing up in the seventies without air conditioning, living in les Murdy where the sea breeze did not reach ever ever, trying to sleep, and just the memories of flipping the pillow yes to the cool side, yeah, all night long, especially that damn pillow. Every time I turn my pillow over, I have a flashback. Really, my bedroom boiling boiling all night.

Well, growing up in the seventies without air conditioning, living in les Murdy where the sea breeze did not reach ever ever, trying to sleep, and just the memories of flipping the pillow yes to the cool side, yeah, all night long, especially that damn pillow. Every time I turn my pillow over, I have a flashback. Really, my bedroom boiling boiling all night.

Yes, like just cooking in your own.

Yes, like just cooking in your own.

Self juice, your own sweets, absolutely vile. Right now, Yes it's hot, but I sleep with the air con and sleep like a baby.

Self juice, your own sweets, absolutely vile. Right now, Yes it's hot, but I sleep with the air con and sleep like a baby.

Fans. I remember the summer of eighty one eighty two, right, living in hammers Our pool pump died right at the start of summer and mom didn't have the money to buy and you pull pump or filter. Yeah, she said, when you're fifteen and a half, you can fill the pool in. That seems like it was my job to fill the pool in.

Fans. I remember the summer of eighty one eighty two, right, living in hammers Our pool pump died right at the start of summer and mom didn't have the money to buy and you pull pump or filter. Yeah, she said, when you're fifteen and a half, you can fill the pool in. That seems like it was my job to fill the pool in.

It seems like such an extreme reaction to a broken pool filter to.

It seems like such an extreme reaction to a broken pool filter to.

Fill in the pool single month for kids.

Fill in the pool single month for kids.

I mean, how do you fill in? Why did Why did you need to fill in the pool? Couldn't you have just left it empty?

I mean, how do you fill in? Why did Why did you need to fill in the pool? Couldn't you have just left it empty?

Well?

Well?

You could have.

You could have.

Do you fill in a pool?

Do you fill in a pool?

Everything went in there, put it in the pool room, everything.

Everything went in there, put it in the pool room, everything.

Not if you have you meant to do it.

Not if you have you meant to do it.

Had an old clothesline, you held toys, that's called landfill blow up. The other end of Belvaniere Road had some sand. I'd have to go up there with the wheelbarrow and take that down. But after a while mums sold the pool fence right, And then after a while it starts sinking down exactly.

Had an old clothesline, you held toys, that's called landfill blow up. The other end of Belvaniere Road had some sand. I'd have to go up there with the wheelbarrow and take that down. But after a while mums sold the pool fence right, And then after a while it starts sinking down exactly.

You have to fill it in with you meant that, you meant that proper filter. Yeah, so the level kept going down. You could always se the old bike. You could always see the outline. There's a couple of those in there had bikes. Maybe an old uncle, I don't.

You have to fill it in with you meant that, you meant that proper filter. Yeah, so the level kept going down. You could always se the old bike. You could always see the outline. There's a couple of those in there had bikes. Maybe an old uncle, I don't.

Know, don't say dead stuff from there.

Know, don't say dead stuff from there.

Exscelluentely so other friends, you know, the rich friends around the suburb was swimming.

Exscelluentely so other friends, you know, the rich friends around the suburb was swimming.

Idiot.

Idiot.

He was filling in the pool. The hottest I've ever been anyway.

He was filling in the pool. The hottest I've ever been anyway.

Biz, Yeah, I do think that is a bizarre reaction.

Biz, Yeah, I do think that is a bizarre reaction.

That's what she did to Margaret, broken pool filter. She didn't want to just sitting there down in green I think that was what it was.

That's what she did to Margaret, broken pool filter. She didn't want to just sitting there down in green I think that was what it was.

Yeah, yeah, drain the pool.

Yeah, yeah, drain the pool.

Well, yeah, we don't train it, but then you're going to fill it in an ugly empty blue thing in the backyard anyway.

Well, yeah, we don't train it, but then you're going to fill it in an ugly empty blue thing in the backyard anyway.

Yeah, you might have got a for Christmas.

Yeah, you might have got a for Christmas.

I don't want to talk about it anymore. I've had therapy leaves. Bring it up.

I don't want to talk about it anymore. I've had therapy leaves. Bring it up.

Ten sixty five.

Ten sixty five.

Our text number A zero four seven six ninety six ninety six ninety six Barry and Bayswater has texted us and said the hottest ive've bead is every time I look in the mirror.

Our text number A zero four seven six ninety six ninety six ninety six Barry and Bayswater has texted us and said the hottest ive've bead is every time I look in the mirror.

Here you go, bears good for you, Barry, Yeah, good on you. You'll be right when he gets his confidence back and he comes out of the shell.

Here you go, bears good for you, Barry, Yeah, good on you. You'll be right when he gets his confidence back and he comes out of the shell.

Christy on the text, Christy in Westminster says she remembers this because it was her seventeenth birthday. Twenty third February nineteen ninety seven was forty six point something. Forty six point something. Tim in Bilia says the hottest he he's ever been is when he was working as a chef kitchens in Cloncurry in western Queensland. The temperature was around fifty degrees every day, so you can imagine how hot the kitchen was.

Christy on the text, Christy in Westminster says she remembers this because it was her seventeenth birthday. Twenty third February nineteen ninety seven was forty six point something. Forty six point something. Tim in Bilia says the hottest he he's ever been is when he was working as a chef kitchens in Cloncurry in western Queensland. The temperature was around fifty degrees every day, so you can imagine how hot the kitchen was.

Air conditioner couldn't keep up with it.

Air conditioner couldn't keep up with it.

But the beer after work was the best beer ever because it was so cold.

But the beer after work was the best beer ever because it was so cold.

How cold and how satisfying. Let's go to high work in morning.

How cold and how satisfying. Let's go to high work in morning.

Denise, good morning, How are you good?

Denise, good morning, How are you good?

Denise? Was the host you've been So?

Denise? Was the host you've been So?

It was November twenty three and I was doing release special in Ada, and I was just working at local primary school and I was driving there for a minute, you know, take a minute, I thought I walked, So I walked there. This day. It was very hot, very humid, walking around and then I walked home. I was thought off on fire, I was my face was the hottest. Honestly. I had a shower Colt shower and honestly thought I was going to combust.

It was November twenty three and I was doing release special in Ada, and I was just working at local primary school and I was driving there for a minute, you know, take a minute, I thought I walked, So I walked there. This day. It was very hot, very humid, walking around and then I walked home. I was thought off on fire, I was my face was the hottest. Honestly. I had a shower Colt shower and honestly thought I was going to combust.

So it's horrible.

So it's horrible.

Consequently, so consequently I drove after that. So yeah, trying to you know, say petrol and yeah, and of course schools only have a backup of air conditioning.

Consequently, so consequently I drove after that. So yeah, trying to you know, say petrol and yeah, and of course schools only have a backup of air conditioning.

So especially on steamy days, is not that great.

So especially on steamy days, is not that great.

Hot all day. Walked home and thought I was, Yes, so anyway, I've never and I grew up in billiona Ora Coole Guardian, I grew up in the air conditioning. It was the hottest I've ever been. Yes, anyway, I did. I cooled down eventually, but it.

Hot all day. Walked home and thought I was, Yes, so anyway, I've never and I grew up in billiona Ora Coole Guardian, I grew up in the air conditioning. It was the hottest I've ever been. Yes, anyway, I did. I cooled down eventually, but it.

Was pretty hard on fire.

Was pretty hard on fire.

I ended up with that butterby Joyce kind of a completion.

I ended up with that butterby Joyce kind of a completion.

Wow.

Wow.

Sorry, that's hot.

Sorry, that's hot.

It's like menopause. That's the hardest you'll ever be.

It's like menopause. That's the hardest you'll ever be.

Let me tell you right now, Peter and Iky, what's the hordest you've ever.

Let me tell you right now, Peter and Iky, what's the hordest you've ever.

Been in your year? To Basically, well, I was hearing at Nyang station with me mate, and it was fifty degrees and there wasn't a breath of air and that and but one of the worst things about it the water from the homestead shearing shed ran on top of the ground and it was Jessica Night's pipe, so yeah, and like it just out come out of steam. So we had to get the water out of the donkey, yeah, which is and that was.

Been in your year? To Basically, well, I was hearing at Nyang station with me mate, and it was fifty degrees and there wasn't a breath of air and that and but one of the worst things about it the water from the homestead shearing shed ran on top of the ground and it was Jessica Night's pipe, so yeah, and like it just out come out of steam. So we had to get the water out of the donkey, yeah, which is and that was.

Cooler, yeah.

Cooler, yeah.

Water, and with it. Then at the end of the day we couldn't have a shower because it was just too hot. So we were in the sheep draft, big tank, then into the into the shower quickly, you know. And then the people were fading us cheese sandwiches and well we're working so hard, but so and then there was no freak for a cold beer, sock.

Water, and with it. Then at the end of the day we couldn't have a shower because it was just too hot. So we were in the sheep draft, big tank, then into the into the shower quickly, you know. And then the people were fading us cheese sandwiches and well we're working so hard, but so and then there was no freak for a cold beer, sock.

And hang it out to us, sock.

And hang it out to us, sock.

It's like a cool guardy cooler eighteen ninety nine.

It's like a cool guardy cooler eighteen ninety nine.

Yes, after the first two it didn't matter.

Yes, after the first two it didn't matter.

Yeah, you tell the kids today that I never believe you.

Yeah, you tell the kids today that I never believe you.

Yeah, And that that piper above the ground, mate, that's a worry, and that from the house.

Yeah, And that that piper above the ground, mate, that's a worry, and that from the house.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And we're there for about nine days.

And we're there for about nine days.

Oh my god, earned your money?

Oh my god, earned your money?

Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we definitely didn't. Then they can.

Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we definitely didn't. Then they can.

Blak you too.

Blak you too.

Have first beer when you go back from that. That was the original fly and fly out job.

Have first beer when you go back from that. That was the original fly and fly out job.

Wasn't it bloody hard work? I'd imagine too.

Wasn't it bloody hard work? I'd imagine too.

Jesse and Armadale on the text says, the hottest I've been was in a Transperth bus on Boxing Day twenty twenty one. It was forty eight degrees inside with a broken air Connor remember that year was really rue, really hot Christmas Day. And Chris from Haynes says he's been like Barry. Hardest I've been was the day I married my wife. I was one spokey hunk.

Jesse and Armadale on the text says, the hottest I've been was in a Transperth bus on Boxing Day twenty twenty one. It was forty eight degrees inside with a broken air Connor remember that year was really rue, really hot Christmas Day. And Chris from Haynes says he's been like Barry. Hardest I've been was the day I married my wife. I was one spokey hunk.

Hey, good for you, Chris. Yeah, got a bit of swagger. Love that right, It's gonna being good. Aaron, When was the hottest you ever have been?

Hey, good for you, Chris. Yeah, got a bit of swagger. Love that right, It's gonna being good. Aaron, When was the hottest you ever have been?

Good morning?

Good morning?

Ninety four?

Ninety four?

Okay, nineteen ninety four.

Okay, nineteen ninety four.

I was thirty six weeks pregnant. Oh, it was forty three degrees. I was an Oh where was it?

I was thirty six weeks pregnant. Oh, it was forty three degrees. I was an Oh where was it?

Oh?

Oh?

I'm going to the steady somewhere. And so basically you're a human incubator. A week pregnant, thirty next week you feel like a whale. And I can remember lying in the bath. And for those of you who can't get pregnant, bellies aren't just static. So as the baby moves like your belly moves as well. So I was lying in the bath this island, going okay, mummy is dying. You need to get out. Now you're big enough, You're going to be fine out And the bellys just waving, waving at me and creating ripples.

I'm going to the steady somewhere. And so basically you're a human incubator. A week pregnant, thirty next week you feel like a whale. And I can remember lying in the bath. And for those of you who can't get pregnant, bellies aren't just static. So as the baby moves like your belly moves as well. So I was lying in the bath this island, going okay, mummy is dying. You need to get out. Now you're big enough, You're going to be fine out And the bellys just waving, waving at me and creating ripples.

In the water.

In the water.

And she said for another four weeks. She didn't want to get out.

And she said for another four weeks. She didn't want to get out.

For the four weeks.

For the four weeks.

Yeah, it was.

Yeah, it was.

It wasn't fine.

It wasn't fine.

Wine flu. Yeah, yeah.

Wine flu. Yeah, yeah.

I had forty two degrees as a temperature when I had swine flu, and I swear that frequency was worse.

I had forty two degrees as a temperature when I had swine flu, and I swear that frequency was worse.

Sar, you want that water to be cool, and.

Sar, you want that water to be cool, and.

Yes you would. Jeff in Balladura, what's the hottest you've ever been?

Yes you would. Jeff in Balladura, what's the hottest you've ever been?

Back in the day of a removalist?

Back in the day of a removalist?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

And we had to go up to Fitzroy Crossing. I worked for Grace. It was forty seven degrees.

And we had to go up to Fitzroy Crossing. I worked for Grace. It was forty seven degrees.

In the shade.

In the shade.

For some reason, I picked the dough the shed to pack the shed pools there it was fifty five degrees. He's in the shed and I was packing these tools are all sweating that much. I couldn't The tape wasn't taking to the boxes.

For some reason, I picked the dough the shed to pack the shed pools there it was fifty five degrees. He's in the shed and I was packing these tools are all sweating that much. I couldn't The tape wasn't taking to the boxes.

Was horrific.

Was horrific.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Yeah, that's crazy.

How long in did the shed did you realize you made a bad choice there?

How long in did the shed did you realize you made a bad choice there?

Jeff absolutely should have took the kitchen.

Jeff absolutely should have took the kitchen.

Shed the sheds.

Shed the sheds.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely.

He must have been a woodwork teacher or something. He had so many tools. I had to get out of there.

He must have been a woodwork teacher or something. He had so many tools. I had to get out of there.

That's dangerous.

That's dangerous.

Thanks Jeff and Jeff.

Thanks Jeff and Jeff.

All right, do we all feel a bit better now about It's not so bad?

All right, do we all feel a bit better now about It's not so bad?

It's warm more more podcasts.

It's warm more more podcasts.

Matt had Graft has told us the story behind that song. I have was not familiar with it about Billy Joel. But that's not in the show, is it, Matt.

Matt had Graft has told us the story behind that song. I have was not familiar with it about Billy Joel. But that's not in the show, is it, Matt.

That's not in the show, So I don't have to I can tell you the story if well during.

That's not in the show, So I don't have to I can tell you the story if well during.

Matt to the studio here with his fringe shows Elton John Your Song Tonight and Tomorrow Night and Billy Joel's Just the Way You Are Friday and Saturday. Both shows are at His Majesty's Theater, one of the most beautiful theaters that you can perform mat It is sumptuous and tickets for both are available through Fringe world dot com dot are you now?

Matt to the studio here with his fringe shows Elton John Your Song Tonight and Tomorrow Night and Billy Joel's Just the Way You Are Friday and Saturday. Both shows are at His Majesty's Theater, one of the most beautiful theaters that you can perform mat It is sumptuous and tickets for both are available through Fringe world dot com dot are you now?

We're going to have to quickly tell the story.

We're going to have to quickly tell the story.

Very quickly. Indeed, Billy Joel had a depressing moment in his life and he thought he would end it all by drinking bleach, and then he thought, no, furniture polish is going to taste better than that. So it didn't kill him. But he wrote that song, you know, second Wind, to try to talk anyone else down from the ledge, and that's why it's so upbeat and everything.

Very quickly. Indeed, Billy Joel had a depressing moment in his life and he thought he would end it all by drinking bleach, and then he thought, no, furniture polish is going to taste better than that. So it didn't kill him. But he wrote that song, you know, second Wind, to try to talk anyone else down from the ledge, and that's why it's so upbeat and everything.

Now the ledge is very shiny, yes now.

Now the ledge is very shiny, yes now.

Elton John and Billy Joel individually fantastic. I've seen them together, they were fantastic. What is it about the music of these two that you love so much?

Elton John and Billy Joel individually fantastic. I've seen them together, they were fantastic. What is it about the music of these two that you love so much?

The thing I love about Elton John is, especially the ones I picked from the seventies, just so singable. There's something iconic in every one of the songs, you know, whether it whoops up to something up in his high voice, or whether it's just a good old tune. It's just fun. And those kinds of songs where that you remember them from the radio being on in the background while you did something else, but it became part of your DNA.

The thing I love about Elton John is, especially the ones I picked from the seventies, just so singable. There's something iconic in every one of the songs, you know, whether it whoops up to something up in his high voice, or whether it's just a good old tune. It's just fun. And those kinds of songs where that you remember them from the radio being on in the background while you did something else, but it became part of your DNA.

Absolutely. I heard Philadelphia Freedom the other day when I was shopping, and I went, what a great song. Haven't heard it for you?

Absolutely. I heard Philadelphia Freedom the other day when I was shopping, and I went, what a great song. Haven't heard it for you?

It's awesome and you know. But the other thing I find is everyone if you look around a shop when something like Rocketman comes up, you see everyone lip syncing toyah.

It's awesome and you know. But the other thing I find is everyone if you look around a shop when something like Rocketman comes up, you see everyone lip syncing toyah.

Especially since the movie yes the music to another level with another audience.

Especially since the movie yes the music to another level with another audience.

And it revitalized it. Favorite CPR have another innings.

And it revitalized it. Favorite CPR have another innings.

How do you pick the songs because there were so many for both artists.

How do you pick the songs because there were so many for both artists.

Yeah, it was hard as anything, and I just kind of thought. I was looking down the list of them and I thought, what part of that song does everyone just know?

Yeah, it was hard as anything, and I just kind of thought. I was looking down the list of them and I thought, what part of that song does everyone just know?

You know?

You know?

Some people, you know, people come up and they go like, oh, you're going to do are you going to do mad Catism? I'm like, no, what, Yeah, people kind of vaguely know that some thing like Candle in the Wind, everyone just knows it not and nobody knows how.

Some people, you know, people come up and they go like, oh, you're going to do are you going to do mad Catism? I'm like, no, what, Yeah, people kind of vaguely know that some thing like Candle in the Wind, everyone just knows it not and nobody knows how.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes, It's like when they start singing Tiny Dancer and almost Famous on the Bus.

Yes, It's like when they start singing Tiny Dancer and almost Famous on the Bus.

Yeah yeah, yeah, everybody does. That's the thing. So yeah, I'm confident everyone knows all of the songs in the show.

Yeah yeah, yeah, everybody does. That's the thing. So yeah, I'm confident everyone knows all of the songs in the show.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, So they're all relatable ones that very much. Do you have a favorite song by each of them?

Yeah, So they're all relatable ones that very much. Do you have a favorite song by each of them?

In the in this show? I love Benny and the Jets. There's just something about it that.

In the in this show? I love Benny and the Jets. There's just something about it that.

Just I've always loved Benny and the Jets, and of course he launched the you know, the final concert with.

Just I've always loved Benny and the Jets, and of course he launched the you know, the final concert with.

That, and it was just the best at.

That, and it was just the best at.

Moment high notes to get that.

Moment high notes to get that.

I don't know what you're talking about. Luckily you can outsource that kind of thing to a fun crowd. Wise, you haven't heard something until you've heard all the men singing the Benny bit. Oh, it's gorgeous right now, it's great, I'm heard. Okay, as you wish, you're a courage people to sing along?

I don't know what you're talking about. Luckily you can outsource that kind of thing to a fun crowd. Wise, you haven't heard something until you've heard all the men singing the Benny bit. Oh, it's gorgeous right now, it's great, I'm heard. Okay, as you wish, you're a courage people to sing along?

Why would I dress up?

Why would I dress up?

Exactly?

Exactly?

Oh?

Oh?

You know, fewer people dress up because I don't know why. Maybe they maybe they just didn't nit past the costume store that day. But everyone's encouraged to sing along. In fact, you'll get a QR code and when you scan it, it'll bring up the words.

You know, fewer people dress up because I don't know why. Maybe they maybe they just didn't nit past the costume store that day. But everyone's encouraged to sing along. In fact, you'll get a QR code and when you scan it, it'll bring up the words.

So you can get it out exactly baptastic.

So you can get it out exactly baptastic.

Why would you want to go and see anything to do with Elton John without singing along to it? You're ic you to be part of it.

Why would you want to go and see anything to do with Elton John without singing along to it? You're ic you to be part of it.

Now when as a performer, how do you feel about the billy stuff when you haven't played it and you you're debuting, how do you feel about that? Do you know, it's exciting.

Now when as a performer, how do you feel about the billy stuff when you haven't played it and you you're debuting, how do you feel about that? Do you know, it's exciting.

It is exciting and terrifying at the same time. But they you know, they say, the hardest note to play is the first one, and then after that you just remember why you love songs like this. And with Billy, Joel he's really like I mean, you know, with Elton he wrote the music and Bernie toy Will Joel kind of did everything. And the words are really really, really sophisticated and a bugger to learn, let me tell you. But once the songs get going, they just kind of they have their own life. I think I'm just a just a conduit sitting up there.

It is exciting and terrifying at the same time. But they you know, they say, the hardest note to play is the first one, and then after that you just remember why you love songs like this. And with Billy, Joel he's really like I mean, you know, with Elton he wrote the music and Bernie toy Will Joel kind of did everything. And the words are really really, really sophisticated and a bugger to learn, let me tell you. But once the songs get going, they just kind of they have their own life. I think I'm just a just a conduit sitting up there.

You are You've done us some other shows as well. You've done Peter Allen, Oh yes, boy from Oswald.

You are You've done us some other shows as well. You've done Peter Allen, Oh yes, boy from Oswald.

If I had energy to do that again. I'll tell you what.

If I had energy to do that again. I'll tell you what.

One of our favorite guests on this show actually is. Joel Jackson. I don't oh yeah, Joel is from Albany. He played Peter Allen and he was the boy and he was amazing. It must he must just be the most divine character to play Peter Allen.

One of our favorite guests on this show actually is. Joel Jackson. I don't oh yeah, Joel is from Albany. He played Peter Allen and he was the boy and he was amazing. It must he must just be the most divine character to play Peter Allen.

He is great just because there's nothing. When I say he's not skilled, I don't mean that in a bitchy way the thing was. He he's just so authentic with how he got up there and his body moved around, he jumped about the place.

He is great just because there's nothing. When I say he's not skilled, I don't mean that in a bitchy way the thing was. He he's just so authentic with how he got up there and his body moved around, he jumped about the place.

Just before his time.

Just before his time.

Yeah, he never he never let the audience out of his side either, watching Alan John his faces down the whole time. Peter Allen locked eyes with the audience and did let.

Yeah, he never he never let the audience out of his side either, watching Alan John his faces down the whole time. Peter Allen locked eyes with the audience and did let.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's so good though, and I'm reassured that he drops notes on the piano all the timely. Yeah, but just what you get his energy from him? So yeah, at the end of one of those shows, you're sleep.

It's so good though, and I'm reassured that he drops notes on the piano all the timely. Yeah, but just what you get his energy from him? So yeah, at the end of one of those shows, you're sleep.

Well, Oh I bet you?

Well, Oh I bet you?

Oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

Yeah. And the others who played me, Hugh Jackman, they said the same thing, although the jack Show was more about the celebrity of Jackman taking everything the.

Yeah. And the others who played me, Hugh Jackman, they said the same thing, although the jack Show was more about the celebrity of Jackman taking everything the.

Care well the thing. I met Todd McKenney and he said the same kind of thing too, and he gave me a video that was just like, please go and see Matt's show. So I don't have to do it anymore.

Care well the thing. I met Todd McKenney and he said the same kind of thing too, and he gave me a video that was just like, please go and see Matt's show. So I don't have to do it anymore.

I feel like Peter Allen's never been played by anyone ordinary.

I feel like Peter Allen's never been played by anyone ordinary.

No, I'll take yourself.

No, I'll take yourself.

I do have to ask about the Abbot show though, Benny.

I do have to ask about the Abbot show though, Benny.

I was Benny and brew my hair. It's called a lioness head yea, and yeah, okay, well I'm in real hair helps because he swings his head around all the plays and yeah, and I apprenticed in having to stand up to play piano.

I was Benny and brew my hair. It's called a lioness head yea, and yeah, okay, well I'm in real hair helps because he swings his head around all the plays and yeah, and I apprenticed in having to stand up to play piano.

Oh how did you go? I don't know.

Oh how did you go? I don't know.

I just I.

I just I.

Didn't wasn't part of a gym at the time, and I didn't need to do because between Peter Allen and Benny. Yeah, some chiropractice is going to make a fortune out of my neck.

Didn't wasn't part of a gym at the time, and I didn't need to do because between Peter Allen and Benny. Yeah, some chiropractice is going to make a fortune out of my neck.

You get the trifect. You play John Lord from Deep Purple Fashion with a heavy rock band.

You get the trifect. You play John Lord from Deep Purple Fashion with a heavy rock band.

It's possibly not as campy as my.

It's possibly not as campy as my.

Definitely this time it's the great piano players Elton John and Billy Joel. Your song is Tonight and Tomorrow Night. Billy's just the way you are as Friday and Saturday. All of His Majesty's tickets are available through Fringe world dot com dot Are you thank you for coming in so early in the morning.

Definitely this time it's the great piano players Elton John and Billy Joel. Your song is Tonight and Tomorrow Night. Billy's just the way you are as Friday and Saturday. All of His Majesty's tickets are available through Fringe world dot com dot Are you thank you for coming in so early in the morning.

We know it's early for French people.

We know it's early for French people.

No, thank you for having me. In fact, I popped over and put my clothes in the laundromat before I came.

No, thank you for having me. In fact, I popped over and put my clothes in the laundromat before I came.

It's incredible.

It's incredible.

I didn't want to say anything. Matt.

I didn't want to say anything. Matt.

We got get a visual of this somewhere and now you'm a beaver.

We got get a visual of this somewhere and now you'm a beaver.

Now he makes my brothers at the stealing your your small.

Now he makes my brothers at the stealing your your small.

Half is luck jeez if they fit him.

Half is luck jeez if they fit him.

The Sure Report on ninety six air FM, there's.

The Sure Report on ninety six air FM, there's.

A headline this morning that says Benson Boone embraces Australian tradition with an on stage showy ugh, it's I blame you Daniel Ricardo for this.

A headline this morning that says Benson Boone embraces Australian tradition with an on stage showy ugh, it's I blame you Daniel Ricardo for this.

It's not an Aussie tradition.

It's not an Aussie tradition.

It's gross. It's not a tradition. It's not a thing. It's just a gross thing Daniel did once after a race.

It's gross. It's not a tradition. It's not a thing. It's just a gross thing Daniel did once after a race.

Yuck. Stop calling it an Ossie tradition. I'm embarrassed. But anyway, so Benson Boone, he's this guy, M.

Yuck. Stop calling it an Ossie tradition. I'm embarrassed. But anyway, so Benson Boone, he's this guy, M.

Please stay, I want you, I need you.

Please stay, I want you, I need you.

Hold God?

Hold God?

Do tick?

Do tick?

Is this beautiful thing that I've gone?

Is this beautiful thing that I've gone?

He was doing a sold out performance at Sydney's Horde and Pavilion when he paused the show to drink.

He was doing a sold out performance at Sydney's Horde and Pavilion when he paused the show to drink.

Water out of a cowboy boot.

Water out of a cowboy boot.

However, Boone opted for a sanitized twist, using bottled water and a clean boot.

However, Boone opted for a sanitized twist, using bottled water and a clean boot.

And do I put a lot of water? It just a little bit like how much I'm going to drink right now?

And do I put a lot of water? It just a little bit like how much I'm going to drink right now?

You know what?

You know what?

When in Australia, stars like post Malone, Lizzo I wouldn't want to drink out of post Malone, shoe Oh My God, and Harry Styles have all famously done shoeies while on tour down Under in recent years.

When in Australia, stars like post Malone, Lizzo I wouldn't want to drink out of post Malone, shoe Oh My God, and Harry Styles have all famously done shoeies while on tour down Under in recent years.

Hence it now copying the Ossie tradition label.

Hence it now copying the Ossie tradition label.

Damn SOEs that mean, now you build that up, You're going to do one and we're going to film it and it's going to be on the social.

Damn SOEs that mean, now you build that up, You're going to do one and we're going to film it and it's going to be on the social.

Yes, not an AUSSI tradition's gross. The last living member of the band, multi instrumentalist Garth Hudson, has died peacefully in his sleep in Woodstock, in New York's. He was eighty seven.

Yes, not an AUSSI tradition's gross. The last living member of the band, multi instrumentalist Garth Hudson, has died peacefully in his sleep in Woodstock, in New York's. He was eighty seven.

Beladree be held.

Beladree be held.

You put the Long Run on Well talking about great songs. Scart played piano on that wonderful song The Weight. He was also the band's archivist, helping to document the band's nineteen sixty six tour with Bob Dylan. This is why they were called the band because they were Bob Dylan's band when Dylan controversially went electric. Big Pink and John Sykes has died overnight. He was a guitarist with White Snake and Thin Lizzie John was sixty five. Sadly he had been battling cancer for several years.

You put the Long Run on Well talking about great songs. Scart played piano on that wonderful song The Weight. He was also the band's archivist, helping to document the band's nineteen sixty six tour with Bob Dylan. This is why they were called the band because they were Bob Dylan's band when Dylan controversially went electric. Big Pink and John Sykes has died overnight. He was a guitarist with White Snake and Thin Lizzie John was sixty five. Sadly he had been battling cancer for several years.

Now, this is what I alluded to before.

Now, this is what I alluded to before.

Billy Idol and Joan Jets are going on tour together. They're promoting it as it's a nice day to go on tour again. At this stage they've only announced states in the US and Canada. But I'm saying at this stage because you know, you never know, never never know, you never know, you know.

Billy Idol and Joan Jets are going on tour together. They're promoting it as it's a nice day to go on tour again. At this stage they've only announced states in the US and Canada. But I'm saying at this stage because you know, you never know, never never know, you never know, you know.

I stay for a white wedding. If you love rock and rock.

I stay for a white wedding. If you love rock and rock.

More Clesya more podcast.

More Clesya more podcast.

Soon you can catch Peter Garrett and the Alter Egos February twenty eight at the East Perth power Station as part of the Perth Festival.

Soon you can catch Peter Garrett and the Alter Egos February twenty eight at the East Perth power Station as part of the Perth Festival.

Tickets are available through Perth Festival dot com, dot au and Peter Garrett is joining us now.

Tickets are available through Perth Festival dot com, dot au and Peter Garrett is joining us now.

Good morning, morning, morning.

Good morning, morning, morning.

Peter Garrett playing at a power station just speaks to me in a very kismety way.

Peter Garrett playing at a power station just speaks to me in a very kismety way.

It's a better way to do it, isn't it.

It's a better way to do it, isn't it.

Put it in absolutely, It's been elaborated for years.

Put it in absolutely, It's been elaborated for years.

Nice to see it.

Nice to see it.

Being used totally totally. Well look, I mean, you know it's great and exciting and all of that stuff. To still be playing and you know, to scratch the itch and to really let that energy thing, which I'm very thankful for still run its course, and the fact that we're able to come over and do a show. It's part of the fist. Obviously it's a really good thing and very cool and exciting and so on. But I also like inhabiting different spaces and places when we play Loved It in the Oars, Loved It in the Altars, and transforming something from what it was into something new where people can actually just gather and celebrate and enjoy and you know, have a night of it.

Being used totally totally. Well look, I mean, you know it's great and exciting and all of that stuff. To still be playing and you know, to scratch the itch and to really let that energy thing, which I'm very thankful for still run its course, and the fact that we're able to come over and do a show. It's part of the fist. Obviously it's a really good thing and very cool and exciting and so on. But I also like inhabiting different spaces and places when we play Loved It in the Oars, Loved It in the Altars, and transforming something from what it was into something new where people can actually just gather and celebrate and enjoy and you know, have a night of it.

You've never been a shin and to a mere man on stage, so I can't imagine what you would what you know, state you'd be in if you didn't have that outlet out on stage to.

You've never been a shin and to a mere man on stage, so I can't imagine what you would what you know, state you'd be in if you didn't have that outlet out on stage to.

Worry those boats. You feel the same way.

Worry those boats. You feel the same way.

Yes, exactly.

Yes, exactly.

Actually, what do you get bored at home? Paid what do you like to be out in the road? Duntain and they're doing different.

Actually, what do you get bored at home? Paid what do you like to be out in the road? Duntain and they're doing different.

Boredom and all that stuff. It's just not in my DNA really, But I think, you know, when I think about it, and I think about the time with the Oars, and even when we've played over in the West, or wherever it might have been. Just that opportunity that incredible. It's like the sacred space, you know, the fact that you can still occupy a stage and you know you've got music and you've got things that you want to say, and you want to make the night. You want to make it shimmer and shake as much as you can. And yeah, if I have to do it elsewhere, I'm happy to do it elsewhere. But I love it. And I've got plenty else things that I'm doing and lots of stuff that I'm interested in, and you know, the sub politics or whatever it might be. But you know, at this point in time, it's still it's a retreat, you know, to be able to take that energy and to utilize it and to bring some really fine missings on stage. Matt Lossy's playing with me, made the record with me, and you know it's just it's a heap of fun. Yeah.

Boredom and all that stuff. It's just not in my DNA really, But I think, you know, when I think about it, and I think about the time with the Oars, and even when we've played over in the West, or wherever it might have been. Just that opportunity that incredible. It's like the sacred space, you know, the fact that you can still occupy a stage and you know you've got music and you've got things that you want to say, and you want to make the night. You want to make it shimmer and shake as much as you can. And yeah, if I have to do it elsewhere, I'm happy to do it elsewhere. But I love it. And I've got plenty else things that I'm doing and lots of stuff that I'm interested in, and you know, the sub politics or whatever it might be. But you know, at this point in time, it's still it's a retreat, you know, to be able to take that energy and to utilize it and to bring some really fine missings on stage. Matt Lossy's playing with me, made the record with me, and you know it's just it's a heap of fun. Yeah.

True North solo album came out last year. How do you find the process, you know, when you when you're going solo, the decision making the recording. I mean, sometimes I guess life can be a bit careful what you wish for.

True North solo album came out last year. How do you find the process, you know, when you when you're going solo, the decision making the recording. I mean, sometimes I guess life can be a bit careful what you wish for.

Well, you know the truth of it is that I mean, I suppose it is. It is a solo thing. It doesn't feel like it to me, just feels like an offshoot what I've always been doing.

Well, you know the truth of it is that I mean, I suppose it is. It is a solo thing. It doesn't feel like it to me, just feels like an offshoot what I've always been doing.

Okay, the boys.

Okay, the boys.

Always had other projects some ago, and I think, yeah, when I made a first record, I thought, oh, this is fun. I don't have to please for other people, you know, So that side of it, You've got a bit more freedom to explore things. And it's also the unpredictability of not knowing where a song will go. I mean the power and the intensity that we were, you know, like absolutely welded and so incredibly lucky to have in the oils. There was always a surplus of that, you know. We always we didn't have two forty, you know, we had five hundred. So the authors, I think it's it's different, but it's also just it's doing the same thing in a different way and just enjoying the business of creativity. I found it. I had a lark, you know, like I was in the sandpit. Really that was probably the best way to describe it.

Always had other projects some ago, and I think, yeah, when I made a first record, I thought, oh, this is fun. I don't have to please for other people, you know, So that side of it, You've got a bit more freedom to explore things. And it's also the unpredictability of not knowing where a song will go. I mean the power and the intensity that we were, you know, like absolutely welded and so incredibly lucky to have in the oils. There was always a surplus of that, you know. We always we didn't have two forty, you know, we had five hundred. So the authors, I think it's it's different, but it's also just it's doing the same thing in a different way and just enjoying the business of creativity. I found it. I had a lark, you know, like I was in the sandpit. Really that was probably the best way to describe it.

But you talked about things you like doing. I like walking up the street. I live in Free and walked up to Essex Street. Cine was last year and plucked myself down to see your movie The Hardest Line Docco, which was real, and the aid of various ages of people watching the Midnight Oil movie were it was incredible. There were fans older than me I'm fifty nine, and there was some twenty somethings as well. That's the appeal of the Oil's music, isn't it.

But you talked about things you like doing. I like walking up the street. I live in Free and walked up to Essex Street. Cine was last year and plucked myself down to see your movie The Hardest Line Docco, which was real, and the aid of various ages of people watching the Midnight Oil movie were it was incredible. There were fans older than me I'm fifty nine, and there was some twenty somethings as well. That's the appeal of the Oil's music, isn't it.

Well. I mean, I think if you hang around long enough, then you know, people interest in produce to their kids or their younger brothers and sisters or whatever. It was interesting. I mean, I think when we came back out, we noticed that, you know, there was another generation of people that had come to see us, and that's I mean, that's just you don't expect that, and it's very very special. But I think the other thing is a lot of what we are on about, both the way that we played, the way I approached the business of performing, and the things that we sing about. Unfortunately, some of them are things which we were, you know, wanting to raise the flag on and maybe sort of say hey, this is what we think. And there's still stuff that's very important. So in some ways it's like, oh God, are we still singing about this? But in other ways you realize it's actually, you know, historically speaking, probably a pretty short period of times, so there's a relevance there also, which counts for us. I think finally, last but not least, I carried this through with what I'm doing. Martin has Jim and Robb doing their own ways like it's the biggest obvious statement of the bleeding obviously you've ever heard. But it was always about the music and the message. And yeah, you know, if that's still got juice and it's still cut through, then you're going to get it to people, no matter what age they are or where they live. Yeah.