Richard Chew is joined by Chris Hayes, host of "All In with Chris Hayes" on MS NOW and the "Why Is This Happening?" podcast, and author of "The Sirens' Call: How Attention Became the World's Most Endangered Resource." (The conversation was recorded May 1.)

Catch "Chew's Views with Richard Chew” weekdays from 6:00 to 8:00 a.m. Central on WCPT (heartlandsignal.com/programs/chews-views).

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