Sales and Crabb have interviewed Michelle Obama and yet you have to hear their thoughts on pickleball and cowbells before you get to the good oil. Sorry everyone. Also: Tradwives!

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Prima Facie Melbourne, Comedy Theatre May 20 - May 31
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