This episode is Part 2 of our chat with Chico Shaw. If you haven't listened to Part 1, stop now and go back.

In Part 1, Chico shared the story of his adoption from Brazil into a family from Bondi Beach, and how he ended up working on a cattle station in the Gulf of Queensland.

In this episode, Chico shares stories from his time working in the Northern Territory, why he left the industry for almost 10 years, his battles with mental health, and what it's like working not just with your partner, but for them.

Please note that this episode may be triggering for some people, so it may be best to listen in the company of support.

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