In the much anticipated first REWATCH episode of Catching Up With The Camdens, Bev, Mack, and David take you back to where it all began: the very first episode of 7th Heaven! Join us as we dive deep into the iconic pilot, exploring behind-the-scenes stories, character introductions, fun facts and unexpected challenges during filming. Whether you're a longtime fan or a newcomer, you won't want to miss this nostalgic journey into the heart of the Camden family!
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Hey, guys, like, we're official, we got podcast mics.
Do you feel cool?
I do I actually feel really cool? Do you?
My mic doesn't work?
Now the big question is is Mac gonna fidget throughout this whole experience? And are we going to hear it? That's gonna be the real whole much better.
Now, right, Yes, you're gonna hear it much better.
Well, I was please don't hit the pillow every two seconds?
File my nails?
Well, I mean you replaced it with nail polish.
I did it did it was taken away from me.
I didn't want you to get it on the white couch.
It's quick. Try this toddler nail polish.
That's amazing. All right? Well should we uh? Should we do the intro?
Sure?
Who's it?
Mac?
Okay?
Hi, this is catching up with the candents. I am not David Gallagher.
And I'm not the kids rosmin.
I'm just really Mitchell. So I guess I was like I am, I am the only one left. So I mean, with resounding enthusiasm. I think everyone wants to do the rewatch. So I guess what? So we have assembled we are doing the rewatch. I did my homework.
I did my homework, but I didn't write it down, which is what God said my entire schooling career.
I did my homework, but I didn't. Actually, it's in my head. So David, David, yeah, did you rewatch?
So how are we supposed to do a rewatch if you didn't watch the episode?
I thought we were going to rewatch the episode together as a family.
As a family. It's very sweet.
Yeah, I was an angle.
It's an angle. I mean yeah, I mean, I do have to say it definitely. How do I even say this? Rewatching? It was, uh, was very interesting and very embarrassing, and there was I have a lot of thoughts and feelings.
I look forward to it.
You do.
Watch with you?
So we're doing here.
I was wondering why you guys asked me to rewatch before I rewatch. I really didn't understand.
Because that's what people do, and I'm just trying to find and follow the protocol that most rewatches.
But we don't like most people.
I was trying to.
We clearly are not like I didn't want.
To rewatch my rewatch. I wanted it all to be okay.
So then should we just try to dive in right now and make this happen.
That's what I would have done.
Well, clearly we have to because you didn't rewatch it.
You're you're welcome.
We're doing it live, okay, So not how are we supposed to do this?
We're doing it live?
Am I supposed to?
How do the mix work?
Are you situated? Well? What is this selecting? Did she look inappropriate? Is this?
Okay?
Do I need a blanket? Okay? All right, we gotta go. Oh my god, stop, okay, all right, here we go. No my okay, okay, oh my god.
Just.
It, okay, okay, all right, here we go.
I'm not doing it. I'm sorry. I hate me. Let's focus.
Okay, way before before we get into the rewatch, what do you guys up to?
Only fine stuff?
Well, I'm moved. I don't. I don't know how to like even contribute.
How do you follow? Only far? I know? Tell us about only.
Well, the lot a lot of tomatoes and.
Oh my gosh.
A lot of humidity okay and some moisture.
Oh my god.
Stop. So you moved. You moved to the beautiful state of Wyoming.
We moved to Colorado, right, that's what I said. Yeah, it's exactly what you said. Yeah. So for the very first time in my life, I am not living in California. Wow, it's big.
How's the sushi in Colorado?
Probably what you expect, right, I.
Mean it is a landlocked Yeah.
Isn't it. Isn't that a rule? That's like a that's a rule, isn't it? You don't order sushi? I have, I have, but I have to say, sound California.
She totally is a southern California thing to I mean, I will have to say. The first thing I did when I got here was I wrote a sushi last.
Night, she did. I saw the evidence. To be honest, No, like even I bet it's better than where I live. And there's a lot of ocean in Maryland. That's true. You look at it that which you know what?
Speaking of which, can we try? What is happening?
Oh, somebody's at my door.
In Colorado? It'll be finished, answered her door in Colorado.
Hold on, I saw your ring thing that happened a while ago. They've been standing there for a long time.
Oh no, it's just it's just Amazon. He just dropped something off.
I noticed that like thirty minutes ago.
In her watch, Bev has robot maids that get her packages for her while she's in California.
I mean, come on, I am a mom of three. Yes, everything gets delivered. Let's be real, like I can't go shopping for everyone.
Yeah, I feel you. I used to enjoy grocery shopping like it was a fun activity that I my friends would come over and be like, let's go to the grocery store.
That's the are you That's such a weird adult thing to say, is how you enjoy grocery shop anymore. It's relatable to me though, because I enjoy by.
These groceries and like you know, it's like I buy you know, stuff and it's all eaten before I get to have any like you know, because I cohabitate.
Now, that's what happens when you have a family.
You know how deep the ice cream is buried in that deep chest. It's under so many packages of frozen chicken.
And it's still goods eaten.
No, that's why it's there. It should be safe for my return until my return.
Oh it's now.
It's now at the very bottom it deeps freeze freezer, and.
It's where you hide yourself.
Just to the entire world, where your stash is hidden.
I don't think anyone in my household is going to listen. Oh, and if they are, this is the easter egg for them to find.
When grocery shop, it's mostly just restocking Lily and all her her favorite snacks. And then usually, like we we usually get her like like dried fruit and like yogurt she loves and stuff like that.
Mazie is cheese, crackers, salami and cheese, and that's what she will tell you. Cheese crackers, board every time. It's all she wants. And then and then pomegranates and mango and lots of fruit, like I have a lot of fruitarians.
Beusy is frozen blueberries are number one. You give her fresh blooers like.
Crackers, yeah, every you know, all kids like crackers. Wait, you know what I do think let's circle back. I think we need to do a bit more. Uh.
This is a rewatch.
It's a rewatch, and I think we should do three introduced because I think we can do that inaction. Yea introduction, focus, people, introduction who wants watching?
Either, We're gonna try to talk over each other less it's going well, all right, so are we who are doing Who's doing the intro. Okay, hold for playing so like fire crack.
You guys. I was having a moment that was like funny and nobody like a memory. I just ruined it or some one opportunity for me to be funny, and everyone like, ooh crash.
It's okay, but we'll try again later.
I didn't do it. It's fine, right, it still sounds good.
It's still so.
We are back together in Govely's old house watching some Kevin. We were all supposed to do this homework, watching the pilot, and we're very glad that you're here to join us.
You're supposed to our introtory.
I was like, it's not like Stars.
Podcast.
Okay, I'm so sweaty god.
Okay, you guys, this episode is going to be an entire episode of like us just trying to pull it together.
You thought this watch, we thought we watched the episode at this point.
Okay, okay, ready pull together.
Welcome.
Broad Take a deep breath.
My god, we need a pause.
Oh my god.
Okay, crying again.
Okay, Hi laughing at me. Hi, I'm crying now. I why is this job I.
Did? That was great?
Like?
Hi, you were watching catching up at the Camdens. I am Mackenzie Rosmond.
I thought you were.
Okay, let me do it again. Okay, welcome back to another episode of Catching Up with the Camdens. I am not Simon Campden.
I'm not Lucy Campden.
Who's the other one.
I'm not Ruthy.
I'm literally crying.
Oh God, we just got eight shorts and nothing else.
Is that empty?
Do any sports reality show?
I was on the special.
God, this is not good, you know, Bev.
I actually watched a little bit of that. I'm sorry. It wasn't bad. I was proud of you. Were you? Yeah? Okay, all right? At one we were mostly I just wanted to see you in pain.
When we come back, we'll tell you what podcast you're watching.
If we can figure it out ourselves, we'll be right back.
Okay. So, now that we have held it together, I think now is the perfect time to do the rewatch. For those of us who did the rewatch and watched it will remind you of Okay.
I still I still don't understand and why we're not rewatching it together, But I digress. I didn't see it, Okay.
Well, I did my homework and I submitted my homework. Mac did you do your homework?
I did my homework. I just don't know where it is.
Is it in your head?
Her homework?
Yeah, it's definitely in my head.
Okay, Well, let's let's start this rewatch from the top, which would be the pilot, which you know the opening credits. Is that scene in Erica and Nanny's bedroom.
You know said it is there Mom and Dad sleep in?
Are you trying to be bury? Ye?
Do what I look like Barry?
Oh, well then i'll be you. What are we doing? I don't was he.
Trying to be?
Since I didn't watch it?
Let me start, Okay, I would love to hear.
Actually, the first scene, the scene where we all interrupt Eric and Nanny and go into their bedroom kind of one at a time, I think is probably one of the best. Like, I think it's the kind of set the tone moment for our show because that idea, it sets that the idea that we all kind of file in. It is a great introduction for all our characters, and like it sets that the family dynamic of like of not just being interrupted by your one or two kids, but by the army. Yeah, they just keep coming right.
One one right after another.
And then Not only did it do a great job of setting the tone for the show at large, but then you also for the first time said your iconic line what.
Are we doing?
Yeah, which I think you probably said every single episode for at least the first three years.
I think she said it multiple times in an episode too. It wasn't like yeah, it's pretty much any time you walked into a room.
Yeah, but like I think probably every episode, at least in the very beginning, you you you were hit.
I mean I was saying, like at the start of this podcast, like, what are we doing?
Yeah?
You say that?
Ever?
I mean, I think it's also it was fun too, like we're all piling in on the bed and it's like that cute.
Is that a king or a queen size bed? I actually think I remember being a queen.
It was a queen. The important question it was I think it was a queen.
I also don't probably queen. It was practicality purpose Well, I'm thinking more of them. We're on sound stage, but when we did the pilot we were still.
But the the scene that you see on in the pilot is what was reshot on the sound stage. It wasn't the original bedroom.
Okay, and it.
Was the kitchen, the pilot kitchen nicer.
Yeah, well those are real countertops, You're.
Not the same at all.
Yeah.
But like also that room, I remember Eric and Annie stop hitting the poem Eric and Annie's bedroom. Remember we rarely shot in there. That was like the set that like was there that we rarely we We didn't ever spend all that much. I mean, granted, I guess we really shouldn't spend a lot of time in our parents bedroom.
Well Eric and Annie clearly spent a lot of time there, don't.
Fair yep? Okay, so like yeah, so so that was the you know, the opening credits, and there's.
The look between him and Steven, which is.
Like, yeah, of cree no, yeah.
Thanks son, Like what sixteen year old is trying to help their dad get laid. I don't know. One who wants to move out, Well there's no more room for me. I guess I have to move out or wait to the attic, right, Yeah, one who wants his own room later later, that's later.
It was a house we lived on that show, and we had.
From the because of the church. It was the church's house.
Remember that's true.
Yeah, yeah, it was the church's house.
I was looking at the bedroom.
I think Eric was one of those pastors who had like the private jet.
Well if he did, we didn't get to go off. Yeah, we got a Winnebago. Remember it was.
Preachers.
So that was like the intro, which was fun and a great way to kind of get the packing order of the siblings. And then we all run off because mom and dad want their alone time because it's Saturday.
Lucky them. I mean seven children and they still get structured alone time. I don't have that, and I have one child.
It's true.
You know, how's your structured alone time?
Do you want alone time? Right? Yeah? I only have your children.
I live a very unstructured life. So no, it's there's no structured anything. Really. When things when I when I have to structure things, chaos ens.
Okay, so we've gotten really far into this.
Rewatch into the first scene.
Yeah, we got into the first scene. So what happens next? You have to remind me, even though I did, Oh the dinner scene, the dinner scene, Oh yeah, it's yeah. And then it's a dinner scene of chaos with the kids, and then and and and like always, Simon kind of is like spearheading the convo about trying to get that dog, and so you want to you want to do the opening prayer so that way.
So I could sneak in some dog propaganda.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah. Meanwhile, Clever, yes, he's very focused. You know that's what he wants, and he goes for RAO video.
Yeah. Yeah. And Lucy is moody as always.
Your what you got so high pitched?
My voice was very I find incredibly annoying. I think that's the hardest part about this whole rewatch is just being like, I feel like I'm listening to nails on a chalkboard everything. I mean, I feel like I'm sure if I rewatch this, if we do a rewatch of the rewatch, then I'm probably gonna find that embarrassing as well.
But I don't think your voice sounds bad at all.
You guys make me feel good. Thank you, because I mean, I do feel like we have a bit of therapy in this too, because like having Barry call me that I wasn't annoying, was like really really sweet and really like made me feel good. Jesse probably has another opinion, but we're not going to ask her right now. No, but I yes, I had a very high pitched. I did a lot of a lot of squealing, a lot of grunting. Yep, a lot of a lot of She's very moody. I mean, that girl has to get I was a huffer, definitely huff. You know what.
I had an episode.
Oh there was an episode about that. Yeah, always Yeah. So back in the dinner scene, that's kind of when we start to like kind of get a sense of each of the characters. So we know that like Mary is an overachiever and has you know, she missed two foul shots and like her game is going down?
How fast the Olympics. Yeah, so she happened to marriage. So she started.
Matt's help because apparently Matt was athletic, which I wasn't aware of.
They didn't really that one out.
They just ran on the assumption that because he's the older brother.
Yeah, and Simon needed a dog, and Lucy as always was I mean, that was a setup for the entire eleven seasons. Lucy being emotional. I think it was a perfect Yeah, it was pretty, and then it was Ruthie being cute as always and just kind of I.
Have to feel like like the like, Lucy, you had a lot of character development in the first episode. I think more than there.
Was a there was supposed to be a lot of development, considering trying to and.
Also trying to develop.
Trying to develop, which, by the way, is also something that cannot be forced nor cannot you know. It's just this whole wanting to get a period that was like such an awkward thing as a subject to handle on a television. But you know, I was so excited to be on the show that I was like, let's go for it. Let's just dive right in and really play all those moments up.
The show gave everybody moments. Yeah, that's true, So you know we all got our turn.
We did, Yeah, eventually. I just I was the one that like just set it off.
So did they How old were you supposed to be when we did the pilot?
So okay, I was doing the math on this. There's some discrepancies that I noticed.
They jumped around.
So Mary is adjusted after a few years.
All but that episode, hold, please, hold please. So in the episode they say that Mary is a freshman and Matt is sixteen is supposed to be He's supposed to be a sophomore because he wants to date a senior. But then Jeff, who is Matt's best friend, is sixteen, so the math doesn't like working out because he should be seventeen. And I think Lucy's supposed to be like eleven, and then but I age up because then I'm only supposed to be a year different from Jess.
And I was ABC's but then a few episodes later, I was five.
And we never really established I think you were just always your age, right, I don't even know.
I seem to remember that we our characters were a few years younger than all of us are in real life, and then around season three or four, they are characters all kind of caught up to us, so that our ages shifted nonlinearly based on how we were aging in real life.
My age never caught up to me. That's because I was always the I was a year older than Jess, right, so I was always like still kind of a bit behind.
Sure, yeah, but but where but where the age balance was in the pilot, Yes, was not static. It shifted in We all shifted differently over over that as a show progressed.
Okay, bringing it back, go back to the dinner scene. By the way, kafit's outfit was so cute, and then seeing I love her little front tuck tablecloth shirt and highways to jeans, the kids or whatever she has.
Oh, she always had the kids. I loved that. Also, I loved the storyline with Annie that she always was like she was the handy one. I was the one like. I loved that Annie was the one that like could fix anything, like the car broke down, She's got it, and they stuck with it.
Yeah. Over the course of the show, they kept calling back to the fact that Annie was handy.
Right, and that Eric never took part in any kind of like building, fixing anything like it was always Annie. Like I loved that.
It was a great character for our mom on the show.
I would say that I am not handy, and usually everything that I build breaks because I don't read it structions because I don't like being told what to do.
She instructions.
I definitely, yeah, Michael, Michael does not trust anything that I built. I tried to build a wagon and was really proud of myself because I built the whole thing. And then I realized that I did it.
Backgard assembly or building, Well.
I mean, isn't that the same thing. It was like it was something that was what do you mean? It was something that was parts, and then it was something that was not a part. It was something that was like built.
Assembling is not the same as like building something, like putting something together that is like in pieces that are ready to be put together. It's not the same as like making something.
Oh you don't want me to make anything, Okay, So anyway, I'm not. Lucy was never going to be like Annie, and neither is Beverly.
In my house, I don't I think I would be considered the handy one kind of by default. I don't consider myself particularly handy, but but I do get out stuff when it needs fixing, try to figure it out it's falling apart.
I think sometimes my confidence may exceed my ability, but mostly I can I can get I can teach myself to do a lot of things and dive in.
I mean, I can do think, guys, I just can't like never mind, and we should get back to the rewatch anyway.
Simon's like a like a politician, you know, he's he's he's always on his talking points and he's on top of pushing that agenda.
I'm sorry, Simon is like that that style of acting where you have to walk into a room wanting something from the other person, you know, like maybe that's Simon's thing, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, what do you mean that style of acting? You're talking like an improv style thing.
Well, like I was at some acting classes something they're like, everyone needs something, so they walk into a room and and they need to get something from the other person. And that reminds me of Simon, And I was probably like in disagreement, like, well, I walk into brims with.
With no agenda.
You're wrong, you don't know anything.
No, I mean, it's it's a good I think it's I think it's a better exercise for writing. If you're trying to write characters, you want to always keep in mind that everyone has different goals. Everyone's trying to get either something from another person or everyone wants something different from that scene. And so when you're acting, you obviously should always keep in mind your characters' motivations and and try to put that at the front.
You know what I loved about that scene too, is you see Eric and Annie and they're frisky and whatever, and I loved, like, I guess I didn't catch it at the time. But like Simon was young, and like when you came in and said, you know, you know, a dog's a lot less trouble than a baby, I was like, he already knows about the words and the bees. Like I was like, wow, he is, like so.
Ten or something.
I know, But I am an eleven year old and I mean she's still.
She still thinks the story shows up.
She doesn't get it yet because we haven't. But by the way, also as I say that, I want you to be clear that at that point in time, I was like fifteen and like still don't really like no one talked to me about like getting your period, so I'm doing this whole show. I didn't even understand it, didn't really understand, Like no, like I'm still waiting for someone to have the talk with me. So like I do you know who tried to have a talk with me? Was Jesse was trying to which, by the way, do you know also that she has a book about periods, which is really cool because she's all that.
She wrote for you is not it probably.
Did she write the period book for me? Oh my god, she did give it to me, but yeah, she but it's like she's she's doing. Jess is doing amazing work trying to like break the stigma of periods and start conversations early and all of that stuff, which is really cool. So it's like a book about Yeah, it's.
I meant that. Oh yeah, I did break.
Them stigma by doing it on the pilot episode. I think we'll have to chess I have a conversation. Just kidding.
That was a really funny line, though it was of yours like that was probably the first time that I laughed. I think when watching the pilot was that crack of Simon's.
Yeah, that was a good one. One point for David. Okay, now let's what happened. Lucy is standing on her head. Oh god, oh yeah, because I couldn't do a hands.
On the line again. And yeah, this is twice counter. We should watching it, you guys the whole day time. I don't care.
Yeah, this is Lucy's standing on her head. And Ruthie comes in, what are we doing? And and I instantly as soon as yes, as soon as Eric comes in, I hoff and run to the bathroom. Yes, And then I remember being in that bathroom, which also is a we never really used because it was really small. That set was really small, and making like ridiculous faces at myself in the mirror while Eric is trying to talk to me through the door, and then I throw soap at the door because I'm mad at Eric, and I in the rewatch realized how clear my athletic abilities were in the fact that I was aiming for the door and I hit the shower. And so there's a lot of setup for the rest of my life and that pilot.
Eric, really, how is your microphone the only one that has an issue with my life?
I don't know, probably because he can you fix Max Mike?
He disappeared for something.
Like these podcast mics. He's pretty sick.
He's going to try to tape should we tape it to Mac? Or what's happening with your too old?
Too old to sit in the same position for a long time.
I'm doing it.
I'm trying and we'll be right back as we fix Max Mike.
And then the next scene, we're outside where Mary is looking to improve it.
Didn't she ask Mad to teach her how to kiss?
Yes, yeah, you were talking about Yeah.
Do you remember that in the pilot they did kiss? I know what, Yeah, but they not you didn't watch the was no not no, no no, no, they did it. We shot it. They did not put it up, did they. But Jesse and Barry shot it. But they remember that they almost kiss. They almost they do that.
They just did it both ways to be about it.
Well, because because remember the pilot we shot there and then they reshot it. When we're back at in Santa Monica.
We reshot parts of it.
Yeah, we reshot that scene so that Jesse and Barry didn't kiss.
Okay, I don't remember do, but we.
Did the actual they did the kiss reshoots, so we did.
We were at SENTINELO before the pilot was aired.
You see, I remember shooting the pilot out in Pasadena. I don't remember the house being on the on the sound stage until we got picked up.
We got picked up and we had to go back and reshoot some of it of the pilot. We got picked up without it airing. It didn't air until we got I believe.
That's why I'm thinking we shot the pilot in ninety five, and then you're saying it started airing in ninety six. Probably anyways, sorry, well, I'm just saying, if you know it wasn't air that might be worthy excusion of this very important detail.
I'm sure somebody was on the internet. We'll figure it out and we'll have the Well, remember what happened.
What's it called when you kiss your sibling?
That's not that's not It's called Game of Thrones. Eat your heart on Game of Thrones? Did it first?
I loved Game of Thrones.
Everybody loved Game of thrown until we didn't.
I know.
Yeah, a controversial, uncontroversial thing to say, I guess.
But so in the next scene, we see Eric at the pool hall, because that was Eric's thing.
Eric's thing was he was a pool shark exactly.
And a musician. Yeah right, yes, but but I loveler this setup before he's basically setting Matt up for the adventure with Missus Bank because Eric is all knowing and he knows that Matt is trying to smoke.
Cigarettes but no one knows.
He thinks no one knows. And his trick was pretty lame by the way.
He's like just like Banaka or something.
Yeah, it was like he had breath mints.
Do you remember the scene I remember doing it with Missus Binks coming to the door and she's got it.
Yeah, who is the actress who player Ileen Brennan Brennan, and she was fantastic.
But it's I got off.
I love that whole storyline because he sets Matt up and you know, they take him on a joey ride and that fantastic. You would know the car had you watch the rewatch. It was a red Corvette. It was a red convertible red Corvette. No, it wasn't a Corvette, it was, but it was a really cool car.
And that got excited about it.
That was well, yeah, but then remember she wanted she was on oxygen, and she wanted to go. Oh, she wanted to go get smokes. She wanted to go get more cigarettes. And that's when Matt realizes, like the very important lesson that.
You should smoke while you're on oxygen.
Well, I think I think the key was don't smoke cigarettes. I have the real I'm pretty sure that was the full messaging. And then, of course, you know, like all good kids do, he immediately quit and didn't smoke. Yeah, he learned. Yeah, because that is one thing that we did on seventh time, and we learned pretty quickly without issue. Yeah, yeah, struggle, we were we were really fast on the list.
Like you yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, they didn't play it off like he was a smoker though, he was like flirting with cigarettes.
He like, well, yea, because we never really committed to like he didn't have a smoking problem, he.
Was like considering getting into cigarettes.
I think it was like he was.
Just trying to be cool.
Yeah.
But then the next was a church scene.
Yeah.
I want to know and take a vote, if either of you had to do either a dinner table scene or a church scene again, which would you choose?
They were both awful because I just remember that the church was always in the high heat of summer and it was so hot.
Yeah, but church scenes were awesome because all we had to do was sit there for most of the day. We didn't have to do anything that is true and had to do like a three page month by the way, Yeah, and we would just be.
Like number one on the costume.
Bring him a game boy. Today we're at the church.
And remember oftentimes, like we wouldn't have to be there, so we would just get our coverage and I'm.
I mean were doing school in that funny smelling back room.
Oh yeah, back there, yeah, that room, that's right. Sometimes that what's that church called? What's the church called.
It's called the church right on Colfax.
It's called that's what it's called. First critic.
I think it's in studio city. It out.
I mean so many people have like gone there to take pictures because it's like, I mean drawing church.
It's the one like iconic thing from the show that, yes, that I see in my life once in a while. Yeah, in town and I go. I worked there.
So you decided that in the church and the dinner table, you'd rather should reach it at the church.
Yeah, dinner. I didn't like dinner table.
See, the dinner table scenes were more difficult. The work was more spread out between everybody. We all had to do. And then there was the funny business of eating when you're doing a scene. Because in a dinner scene, and I think we've talked about this a bit on the podcast, but you everyone has to be eating because we're sitting at the dinner table, but you don't want to eat that much because you're going to be there all day and you're going to have to take the same bite every time you do the scene. It was more to do, and it was it's a tighter space to shoot in the church. We had the whole church to ourselves all day long, and you know, we were always there on like an off day, like a Thursday or something. The church is, you know.
And the hard part too about dinner scenes too, is like remembering, like your fork is in your right hand on the third line, you take a bite. It has to be potatoes. It can't be the turkey. Shift this to the left. Like there was like so much orchestrating, tons.
And tons of choreography. Continuity, yes, between all the takes throughout the whole day. You have to make sure that everything happens the same. And that's more of a pans.
But okay, So where we left off is the church scene where Eric gets up in the pulpit and starts giving his sermon and Lucy appreciate runs out because clearly he is about to tell the entire congregation that Lucy wants her period and she and she doesn't have it yet, so it's definitely And then we follow up by going to the scene with Eric and Annie where Annie so kindly informs Eric that becoming a woman is not as lovely as he perceives it to be, which I thought was actually an interesting conversation because obviously, like it was, it was definitely.
The fact that he needed that reminder.
Reminder. But then again, you know, I.
Think it's a it's an appropriate social commentary on the way that little girls are women in society in general are put on there on a pretty pedestal, and we don't want to know anything to humanizing or gross about them because then it's not pretty. We don't want to.
Deal with that, right well, because yeah, you want to think of all the like positive things, but there's like a lot of things that are like not great. Like you know, when you're getting your period and you have cramps and you feel like you're going to die. That is not lovely, right, That doesn't feel.
Good when you know you get your period every month for years and years in yours and you're still surprised when it comes.
There's there's apps for that, and there's there's calendars.
I know I'm not alone in this.
Yeah, I mean I get there is there. There is the irregular periods.
I mean, just you can be regular, but I just still.
Okay, you guys gross.
Okay, okay, And we're getting off face yet again? Is this we're supposed to go? Okay, So next scene is Mary's suggestion of how to make Lucy feel better is to take her running, because let's have the athletic sister take the least athletic sister on a run, and the way you make her feel better is giving the unathletic sister a tampon?
Was the idea to run away running to shake it out?
I never know, I'm just asking, don't know, but I never thought about.
That, because clearly higher levels of fitness make your period that workshopping, she did.
I mean it was Mary's idea for Lucy to stand on her head. So maybe it was the sham.
Mary's like ideas to get it to get.
The Keep in mind, this is the girl who wrote a book about period. No, just kidding, but she did.
I love the casual tampon drop.
I know that I remember really thinking long and hard about how to execute. By the way, I also think I found the stunt coordinator. There was a stunt on the first episode of Seventh Heaven two People, Yes there was, Yes, there was. Mary runs into Jeff and they fall down. That was a stunt coordinator. That stunt coordinationifies it is that's that was our only stunt. Okay, and the first episode, the amazing director David Leech nice yes, and I believe that that was the only possible stunt because I was going through it with a fine tooth. Calm.
Wasn't known for directing stunt films.
And he started with Seventh Heaven, Beginnings, Beginnings, and then and then we have Lucy drops the tampon out of and I just remember trying to make sure that the hole in my shorts was big enough that the tampon could fall through, and being very calculated about that stunt of dropping the tampon because I was very serious, you know what. There's a lot of precision in making sure that it looked right. And then I watched it back on the rewatch and it looks ridiculous.
Well, it was also like an insert of the tampa.
Oh inserts, do you remember all those inserts?
To be fair, Yes, it is tricky to do something accidentally on purpose, Yes, that is true, and to make it look like an accident.
So I don't think I succeeded, but.
You know, moving on, it's yeah, all right.
So next up is when Ruthie has that truth telling moment like only Ruthie could do, because Ruthie was always the truth teller. When Eric comes down and says he's going to cook, and you tell him straight up that he's not a good cook, and then you said, I love this part. He goes, what nobody else tells me that, and you say that you didn't. Nobody wants to hurt his feelings, but I will. Yeah, and you yeah, you just tell it, tell it like it is. And then that, and then Simon asked for a dog.
That's right there, it is you're wondering timestamp below.
Yeah, we found we found we found this thing.
We found it. So I don't not sure if this will air before or after or at the same time. Is that when we talked about this on different podcasts. But I'm a New Yorker and so when we had shot the pilot, I was fresh here from New York and I still had my New York accent and I couldn't say asked and uh. And it was like a struggle, so much so that they tried to get my parents to talk to me, to get me to like speak differently, and they did. It was for this word. I couldn't, for the life of me, get it done. And my takes were going on for a while trying to get it right. And apparently since we just rewatched it, we know for sure everywhere, but dam that they used a take where I said acts like they just didn't go for it. But I remember when we were shooting it, Stephen told me to just say asked and leave the and and say a different word that was like kind of a bad word, and I was like, no, I can't say that, and then he's like tory about it. No one noticed, but but I guess they did, and they just used acts. They gave up. I won. So the scene took place on the stairs, I said, it took.
I think we're going to have to like go back and we'll have like a little clip on where you say it's at the table.
No way you did.
I remember it was on the stairs, because that's why they were looking for scenes at the table.
I remember, But I.
Do have to say I was when I was rewatching. I got very when I saw I was like, oh my god, there's this scene we were talking. We found it.
We found it, and it was in the pilot.
It was in the pilot, and yet you were running up the stairs and then you actually then decide that you're hungry and you come back down. Yeah, which I remember. Also those stairs were because we didn't use those stairs a lot, but when you went up, there's like nothing up there.
You No, I did notice that the was the backstairs.
No, it was the it was the front stairs, front stairs. Yeah, I remember, Well you didn't say that when we were doing.
The Oh your hand was still on the on the banister. Yeah. Were those kitchens I saw the kitchen stairs that we used so much in the pilot. Were they actually in that house and they in the pilot house? Or was that the stuff that we made?
That's the reshot, that's the stuff we reshot.
I don't know if any Did we ever resolve where those stairs went because in our hallway and on the sound stage we had the upstairs hallway and I remember we had I remember where our room was, and then there was the parents room back here. Our room was here, the bathroom was across on this side, the girls room was on the end. Yeah, one of the stairs came in over here somewhere, but like both of the stairs led to that hallway.
You know, geography is not my strong suit. But yeah, no, that never made sense, Like.
Did we ever or did we no matter what staircase we went up, we just came out of that. We always care exit the same one every time. It is I don't remember, by the way. I hope that made sense to anybody.
But it makes sense to us. Yeah, do you remember how many we're going to have to do a diagram we'll draw?
Well, I mean, I'm trying to make a When we would run up those stairs in the kitchen, the space to stand and like actually be out of frame was smaller than this automan in front.
And sometimes there was five of us, three to five of us, and usually Dawn was up there trying to catch you and trying to keep from fidgeting and then.
Keep us right.
And then we had the the walls with all sorts of stuff, and if.
Somebody was gassy up there, it was never a good scenario.
Well, if I was up there, probably that's true.
I was trying not to point fingers. And also there was gulm, there's a gum up there was so close.
The backstairs had a bunch of of gud. There was like a gum election on the backstairs, like when you went up around the corner.
Do you remember Catherine would always take the gum out of her mouth and put it under the counter of the kitchen the kitchen island.
He said that I do remember Catherine doing.
By the way, I also think that the gum at the top of the stairs was.
Also blaming Catherine for the gum.
Yet, well I didn't show gown, but under the.
Counter, Gallus that was her move at like the very last second, and she's like, oh.
Yeah, yeah, that definitely was Catherine. Okay, So in preparation getting wanting a dog, Simon is trying to show how he he is responsible enough by training his little sister to be like a dogt.
Yeah, didn't Simon. Simon has a weird trend of of like dehumanizing small children.
Yes, because it's like another episode.
In another episode, we brought home the homeless girl and I ask if we can keep her.
And then you're like, oh, anyone under five has to do things like before five o'clock. Whatever you say.
I mean, it was supposed to be like a funny, cute little like he doesn't understand kid joke. But you know, I don't know. Is it a weird trend, Simon?
But he's like, Matt, I think it might be the second of so that Matt like encourages you to manipulate your little sister.
Hey, we were on episode one. Let's not move on to episode let's stay focused. No wait, yes, but remember uh you learning how Simon trying to teach you how to sit.
He still hasn't succeed.
I still have not succeeded.
Oh, this is when we realized that Missus Banks, why do you know I do? I was, I thought, I just in my mind we already wrapped it up. Yeah, missus This is when we learned that Missus Bank calls Eric and we realized that it was all just for show because they're they're taking the oxygen tank away, and all of a sudden, Missus Bank is healed. It's it's it's a miracle. She's perfectly fine.
She's a con artist, but she's also cheap because she gets he is a pool their children.
It's not very godly, It's.
True impersonating a person with a severe illness.
Next up, the long awaited moment comes when Lucy finally it gets her period and you know, all of a sudden, all is healed, All is well, she is happy, she is just she asked. It came just in time. In the third act, which is great and uh and then and then asks Eric to go get tampons. They have their sweet moment in the hallway, and then Simon gets a dog.
Yeah yeah, So.
I mean we were both waiting for something in that episode. Yeah, yeah, you were waiting for a dog and I was waiting, yeah, for menstruation.
Both relatable.
Took completely.
Didn't happy just quote wander into the yard? Where did you get?
No happy comes from? Annie brings Happy home because Annie couldn't help herself and she just went by the pound to or the shelter.
Well, I'm Eric tells me in the episode that if a dog like happens to show up that I could keep it, but I can't trick a dog into showing up, which is why I'm waiting around with binoculars in the in the attic. And then the way that that's played off is that the dog does show up in the front yard and I think it's a miracle, and I run downstairs and then find out that you know, my mom set it up for me and and came.
Through that scene with you in the attic with the binoculars in your little like Timberland boot.
Yeah, the scene where I'm where I'm upset in the attic waiting for happy and I'm and I'm like disappointed that like I thought that God would like just give me what I asked for and I didn't understand why I'm not getting my wish kind of thing was was part of like the audition process for Simon.
But I also do you also remember because there is a portion where you say earlier in that episode which we didn't talk about, is when you say something to Annie about Annie says, your dad and I have already talked about this and the answer is no, and you said, well, good for me, Like you're your like you have a mind of your own, and you kind of set it up that like, oh you go get him like and and then it's Annie who like magically shows up with the dog, and then Eric is obviously mad and there's this whole like moment where you know they have to be on the same page, and he goes, well, you know, tell me why you basically did this?
Should we pause?
The moral of the story is the moms are suckers. You always try to get it forms That's how it's gonna work.
I see, I am not in that that would not be me like you'd have to in my family, you'd have to go for Michael because I wouldn't. I would not give in. Yeah, no way, I am like I am. I am not the fun one your order. I mean, I guess I don't think that that's too far back. I don't think that that's surprising to anyone, right, No, I don't think this was. I think it was very clear from very early on, like pretty much as uh ever since everybody's known me. But yeah, and I do love that. And then when when Annie says the reason why is because Happy was set to be put down within twenty four hours, and the story of Happy was that Happy was a rescue and she was slated for death.
We saved her.
We did, Yeah, put her to work on television.
She loved it.
She loved it. She loved it.
Poor Happy, rest in peace.
Happy Happy was a sweet She was a very sweetish. She was very skittish.
Wait, and then next up comes don't the grandparents come to visit Canda. That's not the pilot, that's a pilot. Yeah, because because they come from they know, because they come from Arizona.
I know that's whears live.
They come, Yes, they come from Arizona and they come to visit unexpected and the reason why is Grandma has some bad news. And you know what's funny is watching back the episode, I did not remember that Grandma had cancer.
I did because David, would.
You remember that?
You did?
You saw that in the rewatch rewatched it.
That's why I knew that grandparents were in the pilot.
You didn't even know that until just now. So I think, have we wrapped it up? Have we hit? Have we? We did it? We did our you guys, we did our first rewatch and it only took us hours watched we rewatched. So on that note, I'm trying to turn off. On that note, if you enjoyed rewatching with us on Catching Up with the Camdens, be sure to subscribe, follow, do all the things that you're supposed to do so that way you can stay up to date with us, because there is more to rewatch and maybe this time will actually get maybe two hundred we did. So thank you for joining us on Catching Up with the Camdens. Catch us next time.
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