Juan and Tim give their ultimate takeaways from Gartner in Orlando with a TON of guests. 




Guests like: 




Cindi Howson, Chief Data Strategy Officer at Thoughtspot, and Host of the Data Chief Podcast

Wayne Eckerson, President at Eckerson Group

Sean Anderson, Host of Sources & Destinations Podcast, and Head of Product Marketing at SelectStar

Benn Stancil, CTO + Founder @ Mode

Malcolm Hawker, Head of Data Strategy, Profisee

Malcolm Chisholm, President, Data Millennium 

Kuldeep Sharma, Sr Manager Data Governance, Enterprise Data

Vassil Momtchev, CTO at Ontotext

Anthony Colichio, Senior Value Engineer, Reltio

Juan and Tim give their ultimate takeaways from Gartner in Orlando with a TON of guests. 
 

Guests like: 
 

Cindi Howson, Chief Data Strategy Officer at Thoughtspot, and Host of the Data Chief Podcast
Wayne Eckerson, President at Eckerson Group
Sean Anderson, Host of Sources &amp; Destinations Podcast, and Head of Product Marketing at SelectStar
Benn Stancil, CTO + Founder @ Mode
Malcolm Hawker, Head of Data Strategy, Profisee
Malcolm Chisholm, President, Data Millennium 
Kuldeep Sharma, Sr Manager Data Governance, Enterprise Data
Vassil Momtchev, CTO at Ontotext
Anthony Colichio, Senior Value Engineer, Reltio

Catalog and Cocktails is the honest, No-BS, non-sales-y podcast about data and analytics. This is your unfiltered chat about everything interesting in data and analytics. Join Juan Sequeda and Tim Gasper to explore emerging topics and hear from thought leaders, practitioners and executives across the data and analytics space.

Catalog and Cocktails is the honest, No-BS, non-sales-y podcast about data and analytics. This is your unfiltered chat about everything interesting in data and analytics. Join Juan Sequeda and Tim Gasper to explore emerging topics and hear from thought leaders, practitioners and executives across the data and analytics space.

Catalog & Cocktails: The Honest, No-BS Data Podcast

Takeaways from Gartner D&A with Juan and Tim

Can't believe it's already been 6 years. Thank you to our amazing guests and specially our listeners. In this season finale episode, Juan and Tim rant about the honest no-bs discussions they've had in 2026 and what are the topics they are looking forward to cover in the next season. 

Can't believe it's already been 6 years. Thank you to our amazing guests and specially our listeners. In this season finale episode, Juan and Tim rant about the honest no-bs discussions they've had in 2026 and what are the topics they are looking forward to cover in the next season.&nbsp;

6th YEAR SEASON FINALE: Juan and Tim Rant

Jason Doerr has spent years watching governance programs undermine themselves by cataloging everything without a use case, naming data stewards who have nothing to actually do, and building central teams that become blockers instead of enablers. In this episode, he walks through what pragmatic governance actually looks like: start with use cases, give stewards real work to action on, and let the central team set principles rather than police behavior. He also digs into PADU (Preferred, Acceptable, Discouraged, Unacceptable) as a practical roadmap framework, how LLMs can accelerate semantic layer creation without generating vanity metrics, and why the governance operating model is shifting toward agentic management ... whether the governance community is ready for it or not.

Jason Doerr has spent years watching governance programs undermine themselves by cataloging everything without a use case, naming data stewards who have nothing to actually do, and building central teams that become blockers instead of enablers. In this episode, he walks through what pragmatic governance actually looks like: start with use cases, give stewards real work to action on, and let the central team set principles rather than police behavior. He also digs into PADU (Preferred, Acceptable, Discouraged, Unacceptable) as a practical roadmap framework, how LLMs can accelerate semantic layer creation without generating vanity metrics, and why the governance operating model is shifting toward agentic management ... whether the governance community is ready for it or not.

Pragmatic Use-Case-Driven Data Governance with Jason Doerr

This is the takeaway episode with Jason Doerr who has spent years watching governance programs undermine themselves. He walks through what pragmatic governance actually looks like and digs into PADU (Preferred, Acceptable, Discouraged, Unacceptable) as a practical roadmap framework. 

This is the takeaway episode with Jason Doerr who has spent years watching governance programs undermine themselves. He walks through what pragmatic governance actually looks like and digs into PADU (Preferred, Acceptable, Discouraged, Unacceptable) as a practical roadmap framework.&nbsp;

Takeaways from Gartner D&A with Juan and Tim

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