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Take 10, with Dr. Jamie, nationally known psychotherapist and expert on caregiving and addictions. Jamie’s take on everything that impacts our lives. With co-hosts Carol Zernial, executive director of the WellMed Charitable Foundation and a national influencer on aging, and attorney and longtime broadcaster, Ron Aaron.

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Caregiver SOS

Hosts: Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial, and their guests talk about Caregiving and how to best cope with the stresses associated with it. Learn about "Caregiver SOS" and the "Teleconnection Hotline" programs.

Hosts: Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial, and their guests talk about Caregiving and how to best cope with the stresses associated with it. Learn about "Caregiver SOS" and the "Teleconnection Hotline" programs.

Take Ten Podcast 6-10-23: What Does Trauma-Informed Mean?

What do you do when a loved one begins showing signs of mental illness? For many families, identifying the warning signs, finding accessible care, and overcoming deep-rooted cultural stigmas can feel like an overwhelming, uphill battle. In this episode of Caregiver SOS On Air, hosts Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial sit down with Maria Honigman (Director of Programs) and Olga Rodriguez (Director of Education) from NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) Greater San Antonio to discuss how families can navigate these complex emotional and practical challenges.

Drawing from professional expertise and deeply personal "lived experiences," Maria and Olga break down the subtle behavioral shifts caregivers should look out for, the unique stresses of the "sandwich generation," and the vital importance of prioritizing your own mental well-being while supporting someone else. They also highlight NAMI's extensive, completely free educational programs and support groups designed to ensure no caregiver ever has to walk this journey alone.

Key Takeaways & Main Topics


Recognizing the Warning Signs: Learn how to identify early indicators of mental health struggles, including sudden mood changes, social withdrawal, increased anxiety or sadness, changes in sleep and appetite, and feelings of hopelessness.


The "Oxygen Mask" Rule of Self-Care: Why taking care of your own mental and physical health isn’t selfish—it’s necessary. The guests share actionable advice on establishing healthy boundaries, managing caregiver guilt, and using simple grounding techniques to recharge.


The Sandwich Generation Dynamics: An exploration of the unique communication challenges that arise whether you are an adult parent advocating for a child, or an adult child navigating the resistance of a parent experiencing mental health issues.


Breaking the Stigma in Faith and Culture: A candid conversation on overcoming cultural barriers—such as the Hispanic proverb "la ropa sucia se lava en casa" (don't air dirty laundry)—and how faith communities can safely bridge religious beliefs with professional mental health advocacy.


Free NAMI Resources Explained: Discover NAMI’s tailored, cost-free educational classes, including Family-to-Family (for relatives of adults), NAMI Basics (for parents of children under 17), and Home Front (for military and veteran families).

Featured Guests


Maria Honigman – Director of Programs, NAMI Greater San Antonio


Olga Rodriguez – Director of Education, NAMI Greater San Antonio

To find a free NAMI support group or educational program near you, search for your local NAMI chapter online or visit caregiversos.org.

Hosts Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial, and their guests talk about Caregiving and how to best cope with the stresses associated with it. Learn about "Caregiver SOS" and the "Teleconnection Hotline" programs.

Caregiver SOS On Air is a presentation of the WellMed Charitable Foundation. For more resources, tips, and past episodes, visit caregiversos.org or email your questions to radio@wellmed.net.

What do you do when a loved one begins showing signs of mental illness? For many families, identifying the warning signs, finding accessible care, and overcoming deep-rooted cultural stigmas can feel like an overwhelming, uphill battle. In this episode of Caregiver SOS On Air, hosts Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial sit down with Maria Honigman (Director of Programs) and Olga Rodriguez (Director of Education) from NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) Greater San Antonio to discuss how families can navigate these complex emotional and practical challenges.
Drawing from professional expertise and deeply personal "lived experiences," Maria and Olga break down the subtle behavioral shifts caregivers should look out for, the unique stresses of the "sandwich generation," and the vital importance of prioritizing your own mental well-being while supporting someone else. They also highlight NAMI's extensive, completely free educational programs and support groups designed to ensure no caregiver ever has to walk this journey alone.
Key Takeaways &amp; Main Topics
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Recognizing the Warning Signs: Learn how to identify early indicators of mental health struggles, including sudden mood changes, social withdrawal, increased anxiety or sadness, changes in sleep and appetite, and feelings of hopelessness.
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The "Oxygen Mask" Rule of Self-Care: Why taking care of your own mental and physical health isn&rsquo;t selfish&mdash;it&rsquo;s necessary. The guests share actionable advice on establishing healthy boundaries, managing caregiver guilt, and using simple grounding techniques to recharge.
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The Sandwich Generation Dynamics: An exploration of the unique communication challenges that arise whether you are an adult parent advocating for a child, or an adult child navigating the resistance of a parent experiencing mental health issues.
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Breaking the Stigma in Faith and Culture: A candid conversation on overcoming cultural barriers&mdash;such as the Hispanic proverb "la ropa sucia se lava en casa" (don't air dirty laundry)&mdash;and how faith communities can safely bridge religious beliefs with professional mental health advocacy.
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Free NAMI Resources Explained: Discover NAMI&rsquo;s tailored, cost-free educational classes, including Family-to-Family (for relatives of adults), NAMI Basics (for parents of children under 17), and Home Front (for military and veteran families).
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Featured Guests
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Maria Honigman &ndash; Director of Programs, NAMI Greater San Antonio
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Olga Rodriguez &ndash; Director of Education, NAMI Greater San Antonio
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To find a free NAMI support group or educational program near you, search for your local NAMI chapter online or visit caregiversos.org.
Hosts Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial, and their guests talk about Caregiving and how to best cope with the stresses associated with it. Learn about "Caregiver SOS" and the "Teleconnection Hotline" programs.
Caregiver SOS On Air is a presentation of the WellMed Charitable Foundation. For more resources, tips, and past episodes, visit caregiversos.org or email your questions to radio@wellmed.net.

When Mental Illness Hits Home: A Caregiver’s Guide to Support, Self-Care, & NAMI Resources | Olga Rodriguez & Maria Hoenigman

When a family member chooses to live an isolated life, it can be incredibly difficult to know when—and how—to step in. It becomes even more challenging when that loved one flatly refuses medical help, hides their symptoms, or is dealing with cognitive decline.

In this episode of Caregiver SOS On Air, hosts Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial sit down with Alzheimer’s advocate, researcher, and clinical trial participant Nancy Meserve. Nancy shares a deeply personal and eye-opening account of intervening in the life of her 77-year-old sister, Marie, who had spent years living isolated as a functional hoarder and avoiding medical professionals since 2018.

Through Nancy’s journey—navigating a surprise heart failure diagnosis, massive caffeine misuse, and early-stage dementia—listeners will learn actionable strategies for breaking through a loved one's denial, handling long specialist wait times, and managing the emotional toll of caregiving.

About Nancy

Nancy Meserve is an Alzheimer's disease advocate, researcher, clinical trial participant, and author of The Lived Experience of Participants in Preclinical Alzheimer's Intervention Research, published in the Alzheimer's Association journal, Alzheimer's & Dementia. She is widely recognized for her dedicated focus on documenting and improving the day-to-day lived experiences of those participating in early Alzheimer's research.

Key Topics Covered in This Episode:


Trusting Your Instincts: Why noticing that "something is off" is your most powerful tool, even when experts or the individual tell you otherwise.


The Stealth of Isolation: How older adults living alone successfully mask severe physical and cognitive changes, from shuffling gaits to extreme word-finding difficulties.


Using Urgent Care as a Gateway: How a single trip to an urgent care clinic can bypass years of medical avoidance and unlock critical hospital and specialist referrals.


Navigating the Neurology Bottleneck: Reality-tested advice on managing long wait times for cognitive care (including 9-month or year-long delays for neurologist appointments).


Creative Memory Scaffolding: Nancy's brilliant "Staples folder" method using provider photos and bios to build trust and comfort for a loved one who resists strangers or forgets appointments.

Key Caregiver Takeaways:

📌 Scale Back What's "Ideal" — Don't force a radical lifestyle change. Instead, figure out what a healthy, safe "new normal" looks like while still respecting their chosen way of life.

📌 Meet Them Where They Are — Build rapport through things that bring them joy first. Taking a moment to visit a favorite building or park can completely shift a resistant loved one into an agreeable mood for a doctor's visit.

📌 Investigate the Basket & Routine — Take your loved one to the grocery or supplement store. Watching what they buy can reveal hidden issues, such as dangerous amounts of hidden caffeine or unmanaged physical fatigue.

📌 Give Yourself Grace — Intervening with a resistant family member is emotionally exhausting. It is okay to step away, cry, and practice self-care.

Hosts Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial, and their guests talk about Caregiving and how to best cope with the stresses associated with it. Learn about "Caregiver SOS" and the "Teleconnection Hotline" programs.

Caregiver SOS On Air is a presentation of the WellMed Charitable Foundation. For more resources, tips, and past episodes, visit caregiversos.org or email your questions to radio@wellmed.net.

When a family member chooses to live an isolated life, it can be incredibly difficult to know when&mdash;and how&mdash;to step in. It becomes even more challenging when that loved one flatly refuses medical help, hides their symptoms, or is dealing with cognitive decline.
In this episode of Caregiver SOS On Air, hosts Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial sit down with Alzheimer&rsquo;s advocate, researcher, and clinical trial participant Nancy Meserve. Nancy shares a deeply personal and eye-opening account of intervening in the life of her 77-year-old sister, Marie, who had spent years living isolated as a functional hoarder and avoiding medical professionals since 2018.
Through Nancy&rsquo;s journey&mdash;navigating a surprise heart failure diagnosis, massive caffeine misuse, and early-stage dementia&mdash;listeners will learn actionable strategies for breaking through a loved one's denial, handling long specialist wait times, and managing the emotional toll of caregiving.
About Nancy
Nancy Meserve is an Alzheimer's disease advocate, researcher, clinical trial participant, and author of The Lived Experience of Participants in Preclinical Alzheimer's Intervention Research, published in the Alzheimer's Association journal, Alzheimer's &amp; Dementia. She is widely recognized for her dedicated focus on documenting and improving the day-to-day lived experiences of those participating in early Alzheimer's research.
Key Topics Covered in This Episode:
<ul data-path-to-node="9">
<li>
Trusting Your Instincts: Why noticing that "something is off" is your most powerful tool, even when experts or the individual tell you otherwise.
</li>
<li>
The Stealth of Isolation: How older adults living alone successfully mask severe physical and cognitive changes, from shuffling gaits to extreme word-finding difficulties.
</li>
<li>
Using Urgent Care as a Gateway: How a single trip to an urgent care clinic can bypass years of medical avoidance and unlock critical hospital and specialist referrals.
</li>
<li>
Navigating the Neurology Bottleneck: Reality-tested advice on managing long wait times for cognitive care (including 9-month or year-long delays for neurologist appointments).
</li>
<li>
Creative Memory Scaffolding: Nancy's brilliant "Staples folder" method using provider photos and bios to build trust and comfort for a loved one who resists strangers or forgets appointments.
</li>
</ul>
Key Caregiver Takeaways:
📌 Scale Back What's "Ideal" &mdash; Don't force a radical lifestyle change. Instead, figure out what a healthy, safe "new normal" looks like while still respecting their chosen way of life.
📌 Meet Them Where They Are &mdash; Build rapport through things that bring them joy first. Taking a moment to visit a favorite building or park can completely shift a resistant loved one into an agreeable mood for a doctor's visit.
📌 Investigate the Basket &amp; Routine &mdash; Take your loved one to the grocery or supplement store. Watching what they buy can reveal hidden issues, such as dangerous amounts of hidden caffeine or unmanaged physical fatigue.
📌 Give Yourself Grace &mdash; Intervening with a resistant family member is emotionally exhausting. It is okay to step away, cry, and practice self-care.
Hosts Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial, and their guests talk about Caregiving and how to best cope with the stresses associated with it. Learn about "Caregiver SOS" and the "Teleconnection Hotline" programs.
Caregiver SOS On Air is a presentation of the WellMed Charitable Foundation. For more resources, tips, and past episodes, visit caregiversos.org or email your questions to radio@wellmed.net.

How to Help an Isolated Loved One Who Is Resistant to Medical Care | Nancy Meserve

Amy Fuchs joins host Ron Aaron and co-host Carol Zernial to talk about boundaries in caregiving on this edition of Caregiver SOS.

About Amy

Amy Fuchs, is a licensed clinical social worker and certified aging life care manager. She has decades of clinical experience helping older adults and their families navigate the highs and lows of the aging process. In 2008 she created The Elder Expert, a consulting firm which provides education, care management and coaching services. Amy is an alumni of the University of Michigan, where she received a Bachelor of Arts degree in psychology and then went on to obtain her Master of Social Work from the Wurzweiler School of Social Work in New York City. Amy is an active member of the National Association of Social Workers as well as the Aging Life Care Association. 

Hosts Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial, and their guests talk about Caregiving and how to best cope with the stresses associated with it. Learn about "Caregiver SOS" and the "Teleconnection Hotline" programs.

Amy Fuchs joins host Ron Aaron and co-host Carol Zernial to talk about boundaries in caregiving on this edition of Caregiver SOS.
About Amy
Amy Fuchs, is a licensed clinical social worker and certified aging life care manager. She has decades of clinical experience helping older adults and their families navigate the highs and lows of the aging process. In 2008 she created The Elder Expert, a consulting firm which provides education, care management and coaching services. Amy is an alumni of the University of Michigan, where she received a Bachelor of Arts degree in psychology and then went on to obtain her Master of Social Work from the Wurzweiler School of Social Work in New York City. Amy is an active member of the National Association of Social Workers as well as the Aging Life Care Association.&nbsp;
Hosts Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial, and their guests talk about Caregiving and how to best cope with the stresses associated with it. Learn about "Caregiver SOS" and the "Teleconnection Hotline" programs.

Take Ten Podcast 6-10-23: What Does Trauma-Informed Mean?

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