With Kyle Odegard vacationing – or is he? – Paul Calvisi and Darren Urban have an intimate discussion on Kyler Murray’s place in Steve Keim’s headspace, what it would take to win the NFC West, DeAndre Hopkins’ rank among NFL players, what Chandler Jones might be thinking, the ability to wear alternate helmets, a Scouting combine on the move, and just how difficult it might be for Larry Fitzgerald to end his playing career (whenever it might happen).

Since 2007, the original team podcast has been delivering analysis and anecdotes about the Cardinals every week. Craig Grialou, Darren Urban and Dani Sureck use their extensive experience covering the team to offer commentary with some humor and a few zings along the way.

<p>Since 2007, the original team podcast has been delivering analysis and anecdotes about the Cardinals every week. Craig Grialou, Darren Urban and Dani Sureck use their extensive experience covering the team to offer commentary with some humor and a few zings along the way.</p>

Cardinals Underground

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