Hello, and welcome to Car and Drivers. Into Cars, a podcast from iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio, brought to you by eBay Motors. I'm Tony ki Roger, the editor in chief of Car and Driver, and I'm joined by my co host, former editor in chief and current Chief Brand and Content Officer, Eddie Alterman, and together we're Into Cars.

Hello, and welcome to Car and Drivers. Into Cars, a podcast from iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio, brought to you by eBay Motors. I'm Tony ki Roger, the editor in chief of Car and Driver, and I'm joined by my co host, former editor in chief and current Chief Brand and Content Officer, Eddie Alterman, and together we're Into Cars.

Each episode of this podcast covers a new car that we think is worthy of your attention. The cars we select may feature a novel design, cutting edge engineering, or something entirely new. We'll cover the stories behind the cars, answering the whys and exploring the whats to bring you into the experience. We'll drive the things and let you listen in, and then we'll sit down with the people who actually made the cars to answer our questions about them. Come along for the ride and you'll hear it all the good, the bad, and the ugly and the way that only carrent Driver delivers.

Each episode of this podcast covers a new car that we think is worthy of your attention. The cars we select may feature a novel design, cutting edge engineering, or something entirely new. We'll cover the stories behind the cars, answering the whys and exploring the whats to bring you into the experience. We'll drive the things and let you listen in, and then we'll sit down with the people who actually made the cars to answer our questions about them. Come along for the ride and you'll hear it all the good, the bad, and the ugly and the way that only carrent Driver delivers.

This episode of Into Cars focuses on Hyundai's newest electric car, the Ionic five N. Unlike every other electric car we've experienced, the Ionic five N is designed to give a gas car experience through several selectable modes. The Ionic five can be set up to act like there's a gas burning engine under the hood and an eight speed dual clutch doing the shifts, but of course it's all fake. But how well does it full up the charade? We're joined today by two Car and Driver writers who have driven the Hundai Ionic five N during different stages of development. Senior editor Andrew Krock drove a prototype on a frozen lake in Sweden, and Managing editor David Beard drove a development car at the famous Nurburgering racetrack in Germany. Both are here to help us make sense of this philosophically and technically complicated vehicle. Welcome to Into Cars, guys. It's good to have you.

This episode of Into Cars focuses on Hyundai's newest electric car, the Ionic five N. Unlike every other electric car we've experienced, the Ionic five N is designed to give a gas car experience through several selectable modes. The Ionic five can be set up to act like there's a gas burning engine under the hood and an eight speed dual clutch doing the shifts, but of course it's all fake. But how well does it full up the charade? We're joined today by two Car and Driver writers who have driven the Hundai Ionic five N during different stages of development. Senior editor Andrew Krock drove a prototype on a frozen lake in Sweden, and Managing editor David Beard drove a development car at the famous Nurburgering racetrack in Germany. Both are here to help us make sense of this philosophically and technically complicated vehicle. Welcome to Into Cars, guys. It's good to have you.

Hey, thanks for having me, Thanks for having us Tony, you were just down the hall, so we figured.

Hey, thanks for having me, Thanks for having us Tony, you were just down the hall, so we figured.

Yeah, So Andrew, why did Hundai take you guys out to a frozen lakebed in Sweden? What was going on there and what did you learn? If anything?

Yeah, So Andrew, why did Hundai take you guys out to a frozen lakebed in Sweden? What was going on there and what did you learn? If anything?

Well?

Well?

I had a blast first and foremost, it was my first job at Car and Driver. As a matter of fact, it was March of twenty twenty three. They schleppt us off as far north as they possibly could and we hung out underneath the Aurora Borealis and did some ice track work with a very early version of the Ionic five vent Hunda was still deep in development on the chassis and some of the fine tuning portions of the five N but they had some small ancillary systems ready for us to try out, like drift mode and E shift. So they brought us up to the Arctic Circle and basically dropped us on a frozen lake bed to spin around in circles and have a great time, and believe it or not, we did.

I had a blast first and foremost, it was my first job at Car and Driver. As a matter of fact, it was March of twenty twenty three. They schleppt us off as far north as they possibly could and we hung out underneath the Aurora Borealis and did some ice track work with a very early version of the Ionic five vent Hunda was still deep in development on the chassis and some of the fine tuning portions of the five N but they had some small ancillary systems ready for us to try out, like drift mode and E shift. So they brought us up to the Arctic Circle and basically dropped us on a frozen lake bed to spin around in circles and have a great time, and believe it or not, we did.

Were you surprised when you learned how much power it had? I mean, we had the Lamborghini Uricon s Dorado on and this thing has almost as much power as that. It's got six hundred and one horse power. And then when you go into what mode is.

Were you surprised when you learned how much power it had? I mean, we had the Lamborghini Uricon s Dorado on and this thing has almost as much power as that. It's got six hundred and one horse power. And then when you go into what mode is.

It and grin boost come and grin boost give you six for one.

It and grin boost come and grin boost give you six for one.

Well, we didn't get too many accelerations on the ice, however, we did get some lowdown blasting around, and obviously electric motors produced torque pretty much instantly all the time, so it felt powerful. I was not terribly surprised by six ZHO one. I believe it. It's about as close as we get to a Korean Hellcat these.

Well, we didn't get too many accelerations on the ice, however, we did get some lowdown blasting around, and obviously electric motors produced torque pretty much instantly all the time, so it felt powerful. I was not terribly surprised by six ZHO one. I believe it. It's about as close as we get to a Korean Hellcat these.

Days, powertrain aside and torque delivery aside. Did it feel because this thing does all those internal combustion style tricks. Did it feel like a Hellcat?

Days, powertrain aside and torque delivery aside. Did it feel because this thing does all those internal combustion style tricks. Did it feel like a Hellcat?

It does?

It does?

And the way I have experienced a lot of consumers who are kind of trying to dip their toes into the EV space, A lot of folks are kind of looking for any sort of anchor of familiarity to kind of be like, oh, well, this reminds me of my gas car. Therefore, you know, this is not as foreign of an experience as I thought it would be. And I think a lot of these enngrin shift stuff and the fake gear settings and everything. I think a lot of it just does a really good job of reminding you that it is still a car underneath.

And the way I have experienced a lot of consumers who are kind of trying to dip their toes into the EV space, A lot of folks are kind of looking for any sort of anchor of familiarity to kind of be like, oh, well, this reminds me of my gas car. Therefore, you know, this is not as foreign of an experience as I thought it would be. And I think a lot of these enngrin shift stuff and the fake gear settings and everything. I think a lot of it just does a really good job of reminding you that it is still a car underneath.

Has it changed much from production to prototype?

Has it changed much from production to prototype?

Frankly, it's only gotten crazier.

Frankly, it's only gotten crazier.

Okay.

Okay.

I honestly think there's more of an attitude to it in the production version than there was, so, if anything, they found that there was room to get even crazier.

I honestly think there's more of an attitude to it in the production version than there was, so, if anything, they found that there was room to get even crazier.

Wow, and Dave Beard, he drove this thing at the Ring.

Wow, and Dave Beard, he drove this thing at the Ring.

I drove it adjacent the ring. Oh so close, but yet so far. I drove it on the GP circuit there, okay, but I did not drive the Norge.

I drove it adjacent the ring. Oh so close, but yet so far. I drove it on the GP circuit there, okay, but I did not drive the Norge.

Lipho okay, because if you were to drive the Norge Lifa you'd only get two laps in.

Lipho okay, because if you were to drive the Norge Lifa you'd only get two laps in.

Yeah, when we were there, that was their goal was two laps with no fall off in performance at all.

Yeah, when we were there, that was their goal was two laps with no fall off in performance at all.

Hyundai tested over six thousand development miles at the Nurber Ring. Was an active sound that is the different modes where it sounds like an internal combustion car, and was an E shift active that's where it shifts like an eight speed dual clutch. Did they let you play with those at the track?

Hyundai tested over six thousand development miles at the Nurber Ring. Was an active sound that is the different modes where it sounds like an internal combustion car, and was an E shift active that's where it shifts like an eight speed dual clutch. Did they let you play with those at the track?

These were still pretty early prototype mules and buttons were taped off so we couldn't really see what things were doing. But they did let us toggle through a few of the sounds. You know, the supersonic jet mode which is pretty synthetic. But what really blew me back was the two liter synthetic engine noise that kind of pumps through the cabin. That really throws you off because it does mimic a gas car pretty well. They had a button set up where you could turn shift boat on and off, and the torque in eruptions in the motor it also does a great job simulating a dual clutch transmission. It kind of warps your mind that you're in a gas car.

These were still pretty early prototype mules and buttons were taped off so we couldn't really see what things were doing. But they did let us toggle through a few of the sounds. You know, the supersonic jet mode which is pretty synthetic. But what really blew me back was the two liter synthetic engine noise that kind of pumps through the cabin. That really throws you off because it does mimic a gas car pretty well. They had a button set up where you could turn shift boat on and off, and the torque in eruptions in the motor it also does a great job simulating a dual clutch transmission. It kind of warps your mind that you're in a gas car.

Yeah, were you fooled? Did the software fool you?

Yeah, were you fooled? Did the software fool you?

I was not fooled. I was impressed. I think that if you put somebody in the vehicle who has not been around vehicles like we are, that you might actually be able to fool them.

I was not fooled. I was impressed. I think that if you put somebody in the vehicle who has not been around vehicles like we are, that you might actually be able to fool them.

Dave, you're a gamer and you like to play video games. I know you like to play racing games. Yeah, that's a simulation. This is a simulation. Now philosophically, are you okay with an electric car simulating a gas experience? And same question for you, Andrew.

Dave, you're a gamer and you like to play video games. I know you like to play racing games. Yeah, that's a simulation. This is a simulation. Now philosophically, are you okay with an electric car simulating a gas experience? And same question for you, Andrew.

I'm okay with it as long as you can turn it off if you want to, right, Like, don't force it on me, give me the opption to go back and forth. But I think we kind of need it. Electric vehicles, Yeah, they're quick and everything, but they lack character. And even adding it in digitally is adding a little bit back to the driving experience of piloting a gas powered car.

I'm okay with it as long as you can turn it off if you want to, right, Like, don't force it on me, give me the opption to go back and forth. But I think we kind of need it. Electric vehicles, Yeah, they're quick and everything, but they lack character. And even adding it in digitally is adding a little bit back to the driving experience of piloting a gas powered car.

And Andrew, how do you feel about the simulation and being part of the simulation.

And Andrew, how do you feel about the simulation and being part of the simulation.

I've been part of the simulation.

I've been part of the simulation.

My whole life, Doney.

My whole life, Doney.

I love it for pretty much every reason Dave said. Number one, it's not hurting anybody. You can turn it off if you don't like it. You don't have to use it. But the fact that it's there expands its appeal, and it's a very, in my opinion, what is probably a lower cost way of getting to expand that appeal. So I'm all for it. Whatever gets more people interested and excited for electric cars, because I know that we had the longest time where we all thought we'd be driving second gen Priuses and we'd all be doing two miles an hour, hanging out with Ed Bagley Junior and having the worst time of our lives. Don't knock ed vaguely, but I think we're at a time where the car is can be exciting, and they're more exciting than people think. And whatever gets more eyes on them, I think. Isn't that positive?

I love it for pretty much every reason Dave said. Number one, it's not hurting anybody. You can turn it off if you don't like it. You don't have to use it. But the fact that it's there expands its appeal, and it's a very, in my opinion, what is probably a lower cost way of getting to expand that appeal. So I'm all for it. Whatever gets more people interested and excited for electric cars, because I know that we had the longest time where we all thought we'd be driving second gen Priuses and we'd all be doing two miles an hour, hanging out with Ed Bagley Junior and having the worst time of our lives. Don't knock ed vaguely, but I think we're at a time where the car is can be exciting, and they're more exciting than people think. And whatever gets more eyes on them, I think. Isn't that positive?

You know, you see this a lot. Whenever there's a technology change, some artifacts of the old technology persist into the new one. To me, and I haven't driven the car yet, but it's little like controlling a vehicle with horse reins, you.

You know, you see this a lot. Whenever there's a technology change, some artifacts of the old technology persist into the new one. To me, and I haven't driven the car yet, but it's little like controlling a vehicle with horse reins, you.

Know what I mean, and making horse sounds.

Know what I mean, and making horse sounds.

But you know, we're so far into the EV transition anyway, it seems like this is pretty late in coming. Maybe this is how it's going to be. I don't know. I mean, are we that addicted to noise, vibration and harshness. Maybe we are.

But you know, we're so far into the EV transition anyway, it seems like this is pretty late in coming. Maybe this is how it's going to be. I don't know. I mean, are we that addicted to noise, vibration and harshness. Maybe we are.

I think I am in a performance car like this, I want that I would miss it.

I think I am in a performance car like this, I want that I would miss it.

Oh yeah, I mean theater is a big reason why people like performance cars, and I think injecting that an EV may seem a little more counterproductive because it isn't making as much noise as an internal combustion engine would, but I'm all for it.

Oh yeah, I mean theater is a big reason why people like performance cars, and I think injecting that an EV may seem a little more counterproductive because it isn't making as much noise as an internal combustion engine would, but I'm all for it.

I should also mention that with ane shift activated, the car is actually slower accelerating because you get those interruptions in torque, so it's not even with that experience active, it's not as quick as your standard EV mode.

I should also mention that with ane shift activated, the car is actually slower accelerating because you get those interruptions in torque, so it's not even with that experience active, it's not as quick as your standard EV mode.

And I'm sure it'd be slower on a racetrack as well.

And I'm sure it'd be slower on a racetrack as well.

Yeah right. That was the one thing about driving it around the circuit is your shift points and all that's playing in your brain as you're out there running laps. So I found it better to drive with an E shift activated on the track, just because it was a level of engagement and it gave me reference points where things were happening versus you know, just dead silent out there.

Yeah right. That was the one thing about driving it around the circuit is your shift points and all that's playing in your brain as you're out there running laps. So I found it better to drive with an E shift activated on the track, just because it was a level of engagement and it gave me reference points where things were happening versus you know, just dead silent out there.

Oh that's interesting.

Oh that's interesting.

Now, speaking of theater, there's also that drift optimization mode. Did you use that at all?

Now, speaking of theater, there's also that drift optimization mode. Did you use that at all?

They turned that on for us, They gave us a walk through of how to do it. They brought us out to this gigantic couple thousand foot ice skid pad, and we're basically just like, engage you in your hown go nuts, see if you can hold the drift with without the mode.

They turned that on for us, They gave us a walk through of how to do it. They brought us out to this gigantic couple thousand foot ice skid pad, and we're basically just like, engage you in your hown go nuts, see if you can hold the drift with without the mode.

See how it was.

See how it was.

And there is a demonstrable difference in how well that thing engages and holds a drift with that mode active.

And there is a demonstrable difference in how well that thing engages and holds a drift with that mode active.

Yeah, because you would think it'd be kind of hard to modulate a drift the way it is in an IC car.

Yeah, because you would think it'd be kind of hard to modulate a drift the way it is in an IC car.

Yeah, and I was thinking that too. So the entire time I'm going around the circle drifting, let's just say, better than I normally would. I was trying to figure out how it was all happening in the background, but my brain was just having the hardest time wrapping around it because the end result was just such a smooth, perfect slide that. Yeah, my mind was blown the whole time.

Yeah, and I was thinking that too. So the entire time I'm going around the circle drifting, let's just say, better than I normally would. I was trying to figure out how it was all happening in the background, but my brain was just having the hardest time wrapping around it because the end result was just such a smooth, perfect slide that. Yeah, my mind was blown the whole time.

So the production car has N race, which will optimize the battery for a few quick laps versus staying out on the track for a longer session. Do you know what mode your car was in?

So the production car has N race, which will optimize the battery for a few quick laps versus staying out on the track for a longer session. Do you know what mode your car was in?

We were not optimized for longer sessions. We were dumping more power in because we did four laps at a time. And I don't know how you guys drive on media events, but I like to drive them pretty hard because we get such short exposure to them, right, So I was, you know, definitely abusing the brain and the tires and leaning on it as hard as I could everywhere. And I came away really impressed with how well they had two in the car. I mean, they've got a couple of fantastic guys running the program over there, with Albert Berman, former mastermind for all the M cars, and Tyrone Johnson. He was from Ford, he did the Fiestast and the focus RS.

We were not optimized for longer sessions. We were dumping more power in because we did four laps at a time. And I don't know how you guys drive on media events, but I like to drive them pretty hard because we get such short exposure to them, right, So I was, you know, definitely abusing the brain and the tires and leaning on it as hard as I could everywhere. And I came away really impressed with how well they had two in the car. I mean, they've got a couple of fantastic guys running the program over there, with Albert Berman, former mastermind for all the M cars, and Tyrone Johnson. He was from Ford, he did the Fiestast and the focus RS.

Great drift mode cars. I mean, we should pause for a second to talk about how good these N cars are. And I don't know if the general public really understands just how amazing something like Alantra N is and just how good it is to drive, how much kind of front end authority these cars have. They really do feel like they're set up by real race guys. They're just awesome to drive.

Great drift mode cars. I mean, we should pause for a second to talk about how good these N cars are. And I don't know if the general public really understands just how amazing something like Alantra N is and just how good it is to drive, how much kind of front end authority these cars have. They really do feel like they're set up by real race guys. They're just awesome to drive.

Yeah, they're tons of fun. The chassis works well. The veloster En sort of got them to this point, and then the Lantra end just took it to the next level. I mean, it's a fantastic car, tons of grip. I think it's close to a G on the skid pad. They're incredibly quick, and it's affordable. It's in the low thirty thousands. Oh yeah.

Yeah, they're tons of fun. The chassis works well. The veloster En sort of got them to this point, and then the Lantra end just took it to the next level. I mean, it's a fantastic car, tons of grip. I think it's close to a G on the skid pad. They're incredibly quick, and it's affordable. It's in the low thirty thousands. Oh yeah.

Just for my brief time hanging out over there with the end team, they're very enthusiastic about their brand and they want them to be good, and they want them to drive well and provide the very entertaining experience. Like they really care about their product, and I think that shows with how well these end cars drive.

Just for my brief time hanging out over there with the end team, they're very enthusiastic about their brand and they want them to be good, and they want them to drive well and provide the very entertaining experience. Like they really care about their product, and I think that shows with how well these end cars drive.

So, Andrew, did you have any reindeer when you were up there?

So, Andrew, did you have any reindeer when you were up there?

Reindeer meat? Like eating it? Or did you see reindeer?

Reindeer meat? Like eating it? Or did you see reindeer?

For a second, in my head, I was like, did he ask if I hit a reindeer while I was out there?

For a second, in my head, I was like, did he ask if I hit a reindeer while I was out there?

No?

No?

No, did you have the reindeer chili?

No, did you have the reindeer chili?

Sadly, everywhere Hun they took us, they did not offer us any sort of local quadruped fair Man.

Sadly, everywhere Hun they took us, they did not offer us any sort of local quadruped fair Man.

You got the short end of the stick there.

You got the short end of the stick there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Really, I was there once and there was a guy beating on a drum and they were parading a reindeer around, and then like thirty minutes later we're all eating a reindeer. So I don't know if that was like, was.

Really, I was there once and there was a guy beating on a drum and they were parading a reindeer around, and then like thirty minutes later we're all eating a reindeer. So I don't know if that was like, was.

It that same reindeer?

It that same reindeer?

I don't know.

I don't know.

They never said, but we had the chili.

They never said, but we had the chili.

Really, it was just theater. Hopefully it was as real as the Ionic.

Really, it was just theater. Hopefully it was as real as the Ionic.

Yeah, those noises, it's not like ritual sack price apocalypse now.

Yeah, those noises, it's not like ritual sack price apocalypse now.

A long time since. It's been one of those press trips.

A long time since. It's been one of those press trips.

Let's go drive it.

Let's go drive it.

Let's go.

Let's go.

Here. It is in the carent driver garage and it's bigger than you think it's gonna be.

Here. It is in the carent driver garage and it's bigger than you think it's gonna be.

Yeah, that's the thing with Ionic ends, they're always it's got this beautiful hatch shape, so in your mind you think eighties hatchback, right, and it's so much bigger than that.

Yeah, that's the thing with Ionic ends, they're always it's got this beautiful hatch shape, so in your mind you think eighties hatchback, right, and it's so much bigger than that.

Let's been described the regular Ionic's been described as like a Minecraft GTI or Delta into.

Let's been described the regular Ionic's been described as like a Minecraft GTI or Delta into.

Graalitg Yeah, exactly.

Graalitg Yeah, exactly.

It has an eight bit feel to it. You know.

It has an eight bit feel to it. You know.

I love the design of this, and you've got a larger rear spoiler. This one has matte blue paint. It's like that light blue gulf Matte paints. It's the end color, right, And it's got the little n on the rockers. It's got the much larger wheels and tires. It's got p zeros on it. It's got a lot of rubber underneath it too.

I love the design of this, and you've got a larger rear spoiler. This one has matte blue paint. It's like that light blue gulf Matte paints. It's the end color, right, And it's got the little n on the rockers. It's got the much larger wheels and tires. It's got p zeros on it. It's got a lot of rubber underneath it too.

Twenty one inches two.

Twenty one inches two.

Seventy five's in the back, two seventy fives in the front.

Seventy five's in the back, two seventy fives in the front.

They're square and there's a little bit of extra width in the car to accommodate those. I got to say, though, the hood fit isn't great over those flares. Do you see that.

They're square and there's a little bit of extra width in the car to accommodate those. I got to say, though, the hood fit isn't great over those flares. Do you see that.

It's sort of hanging out over it, but perhaps intentionally because it sort of meets up with the fender that way. Okay, and it's got the cool eight bit headlights I mentioned, Yeah.

It's sort of hanging out over it, but perhaps intentionally because it sort of meets up with the fender that way. Okay, and it's got the cool eight bit headlights I mentioned, Yeah.

But does that reinforce the idea that this is just a robot.

But does that reinforce the idea that this is just a robot.

Well, it doesn't have that much of a dead lie look, does it. It's cool. It's got radiators for the motors, got radiators for the batteries. I mean, this is the high performance EV right now.

Well, it doesn't have that much of a dead lie look, does it. It's cool. It's got radiators for the motors, got radiators for the batteries. I mean, this is the high performance EV right now.

So I mean it's basically, you know, an Ionic five from the exterior with a little bit more flair.

So I mean it's basically, you know, an Ionic five from the exterior with a little bit more flair.

Yeah, they say, even more of a rally car. Look, it's the Carlos Science version of the Ionic five.

Yeah, they say, even more of a rally car. Look, it's the Carlos Science version of the Ionic five.

Excellent. Let's get in it all right, Let's get in these cool flush door handles.

Excellent. Let's get in it all right, Let's get in these cool flush door handles.

Oh the seeds.

Oh the seeds.

Oh it's nice. My critique of the base Ionic is that it looks like a work cubicle inside, you know, like made in Grand Rapids.

Oh it's nice. My critique of the base Ionic is that it looks like a work cubicle inside, you know, like made in Grand Rapids.

You're going to be hotelling at this for the next couple of days.

You're going to be hotelling at this for the next couple of days.

It's got a little business center with a fax machine. But this thing looks proper.

It's got a little business center with a fax machine. But this thing looks proper.

Yeah, it's got the center, it's got the larger center console up here.

Yeah, it's got the center, it's got the larger center console up here.

Oh did you hear that? It's occurring? Okay, what are you walking through now?

Oh did you hear that? It's occurring? Okay, what are you walking through now?

So I'm going to go through the active end sound and we can choose our different sound. So this is a ignition, which imitates in an internal combustion engine evolution, which is the usual sound of an ev that's piped in, and then supersonic, which is apparently inspired by the movie typ Gun.

So I'm going to go through the active end sound and we can choose our different sound. So this is a ignition, which imitates in an internal combustion engine evolution, which is the usual sound of an ev that's piped in, and then supersonic, which is apparently inspired by the movie typ Gun.

Okay, let's go with ignition.

Okay, let's go with ignition.

We'll go back to ignition. You know, it's a weird.

We'll go back to ignition. You know, it's a weird.

Thing that all the sound is happening on the inside. You've got this fake exhaust noise, but there's no exhaust.

Thing that all the sound is happening on the inside. You've got this fake exhaust noise, but there's no exhaust.

It's on the outside. It's not for anybody else but us.

It's on the outside. It's not for anybody else but us.

It's very eerie.

It's very eerie.

And then I do love like the wheel is the cereingel is gorgeous. I mean it almost looks like a BMW steering wheel. It does, but it has avoided being as large as modern BMW steering wheel.

And then I do love like the wheel is the cereingel is gorgeous. I mean it almost looks like a BMW steering wheel. It does, but it has avoided being as large as modern BMW steering wheel.

You've got these n shortcut button. You have NNGB. That's the what was that n.

You've got these n shortcut button. You have NNGB. That's the what was that n.

N grin boost. Yeah, and that's how you get your six forty one for ten seconds.

N grin boost. Yeah, and that's how you get your six forty one for ten seconds.

Yeah, from it goes from six hundred and one horse power to six and forty one, So next forty horse power boost for ten seconds. For ten seconds, that's it. But there are so many features and options. And look at this menu here that we're going through. This an launch control and shift which is the fake eight speed and actors Salwich is the fake exhaust. So moving on the end, Drift Optimizer.

Yeah, from it goes from six hundred and one horse power to six and forty one, So next forty horse power boost for ten seconds. For ten seconds, that's it. But there are so many features and options. And look at this menu here that we're going through. This an launch control and shift which is the fake eight speed and actors Salwich is the fake exhaust. So moving on the end, Drift Optimizer.

That's the one that keeps us drifting. That's the one that Andrew was talking about on the lake that made him a champion drifting.

That's the one that keeps us drifting. That's the one that Andrew was talking about on the lake that made him a champion drifting.

Only available in rear drive mode and ESC is Minimized Stability Control. N race mode is for track driving.

Only available in rear drive mode and ESC is Minimized Stability Control. N race mode is for track driving.

Yeah, and that one allows you to discharge the battery. Is if you're only going out for a quick lap time or if you're going out for a long session. That's sprinting endurance.

Yeah, and that one allows you to discharge the battery. Is if you're only going out for a quick lap time or if you're going out for a long session. That's sprinting endurance.

And you can adjust the torque front and rear. Ok So, yeah, there's a little fly. Look at that. Oh my god, let's activate it.

And you can adjust the torque front and rear. Ok So, yeah, there's a little fly. Look at that. Oh my god, let's activate it.

So let's go to E shift and turn on the eight speed, the virtual eight speed. Hit activate on the screen. Okay, Oh, and now it's a commoner. Look at that, Eddie, listen to that.

So let's go to E shift and turn on the eight speed, the virtual eight speed. Hit activate on the screen. Okay, Oh, and now it's a commoner. Look at that, Eddie, listen to that.

It is a video game. It totally is a game. Wow.

It is a video game. It totally is a game. Wow.

That's wild. And like you said, it's only playing it for us inside, it's not playing it out.

That's wild. And like you said, it's only playing it for us inside, it's not playing it out.

Can hear it outside?

Can hear it outside?

Wow?

Wow?

That is wild. Maybe you will never upset a neighbor.

That is wild. Maybe you will never upset a neighbor.

It's quiet all the time.

It's quiet all the time.

Yeah. And these seats too, are much more highly Yeah, they're.

Yeah. And these seats too, are much more highly Yeah, they're.

Not hard to get it out of. If they're easy to get it out of. And there's tons of bowl strings. You've got tons of shoulder support.

Not hard to get it out of. If they're easy to get it out of. And there's tons of bowl strings. You've got tons of shoulder support.

Nice wing. You can wear your stets in in this baby.

Nice wing. You can wear your stets in in this baby.

Shall we try it out?

Shall we try it out?

Then? Yeah?

Then? Yeah?

Let's drive it all right?

Let's drive it all right?

You know it's funny, even though if you don't like the idea of all this fake sound. It's really cool. Sound it sound right, it's really cool.

You know it's funny, even though if you don't like the idea of all this fake sound. It's really cool. Sound it sound right, it's really cool.

A fake gearbox has done so convincingly.

A fake gearbox has done so convincingly.

You have to be impressed and seduced by it a little. Right, it sounds great, it feels great.

You have to be impressed and seduced by it a little. Right, it sounds great, it feels great.

I did not I haven't driven this car until today. I did not expect it to be this convincing. I mean, it feels like there's an icy engine underneath you, and there feels like there's an eight speed and.

I did not I haven't driven this car until today. I did not expect it to be this convincing. I mean, it feels like there's an icy engine underneath you, and there feels like there's an eight speed and.

Let's not forget and icy with Lamborghini power exactly in a Hyundai. Now, this thing is a lot more expensive than the base Ionic five. It's sixty eight grand, yeah to start.

Let's not forget and icy with Lamborghini power exactly in a Hyundai. Now, this thing is a lot more expensive than the base Ionic five. It's sixty eight grand, yeah to start.

So over twenty thousand dollars more than the bass Ionic five. But the performance is pretty ridiculous. It's three seconds to sixty.

So over twenty thousand dollars more than the bass Ionic five. But the performance is pretty ridiculous. It's three seconds to sixty.

Oh my god, it's super cool. It feels like the power delivery is not like an EV No, it is absolutely this is really wild, like an icy car wild.

Oh my god, it's super cool. It feels like the power delivery is not like an EV No, it is absolutely this is really wild, like an icy car wild.

And you don't have to really feel guilty about, you know, downshifting and keeping it at quote unquote four thy five hundred rpm all day long either. Right, All right, let's turn off the E shift for a second and see how it is this a regular EV and it's still making the noise because we have an active sound on.

And you don't have to really feel guilty about, you know, downshifting and keeping it at quote unquote four thy five hundred rpm all day long either. Right, All right, let's turn off the E shift for a second and see how it is this a regular EV and it's still making the noise because we have an active sound on.

But the torque delivery feels much more like an EV, right.

But the torque delivery feels much more like an EV, right.

Yeah, and I think it'll just pull on that one gear forever.

Yeah, and I think it'll just pull on that one gear forever.

So how does it do it.

So how does it do it.

I think they just have all the software written so that the electric motor is delivering torque in the same way that an IC engine would wild so it's like software.

I think they just have all the software written so that the electric motor is delivering torque in the same way that an IC engine would wild so it's like software.

It's detuned. This is so weird.

It's detuned. This is so weird.

We're so plugged into the matrix.

We're so plugged into the matrix.

Yeah, it's so weird. But again, it's like in the earliest days of the car, people would have to walk in front of cars with flags.

Yeah, it's so weird. But again, it's like in the earliest days of the car, people would have to walk in front of cars with flags.

Right exactly.

Right exactly.

This is kind of like that. You know, that's the old technology persists in the new one.

This is kind of like that. You know, that's the old technology persists in the new one.

But it's also I mean, you can do it both ways. You can play with this as a regular EV, or you can play with it as with an eighth speed and a fake for cylinder engine under the hood.

But it's also I mean, you can do it both ways. You can play with this as a regular EV, or you can play with it as with an eighth speed and a fake for cylinder engine under the hood.

It's truly what makes it like a video game to me. I wouldn't be surprised if more performance evs went this route. I hope they do, because, as you say, you know, on paper, it really sounds like a gimmick, but when you get in the car and you experience it, You're like, oh, this is what my car does. Yeah, yeah, and it gives it a lot of character. It's a different mode. It's a cool drive mode that's very concrete and distinct from the regular EV modes.

It's truly what makes it like a video game to me. I wouldn't be surprised if more performance evs went this route. I hope they do, because, as you say, you know, on paper, it really sounds like a gimmick, but when you get in the car and you experience it, You're like, oh, this is what my car does. Yeah, yeah, and it gives it a lot of character. It's a different mode. It's a cool drive mode that's very concrete and distinct from the regular EV modes.

And it feels authentic, it feels real. And why not give me a V twelve Lamborghini engine?

And it feels authentic, it feels real. And why not give me a V twelve Lamborghini engine?

Right?

Right?

Why are we stopping at trend? Right? And yeah, I know there's a lot of corporate pride, but come on, but how about like a Colombo V twelve.

Why are we stopping at trend? Right? And yeah, I know there's a lot of corporate pride, but come on, but how about like a Colombo V twelve.

How about Colombo's pougio.

How about Colombo's pougio.

For oh good, good call man.

For oh good, good call man.

Well, now we're in evolution.

Well, now we're in evolution.

I don't like it as much. This is weird. Just sounds like an ev that's broken.

I don't like it as much. This is weird. Just sounds like an ev that's broken.

It sounds like there's somebody's vacuuming in the other room.

It sounds like there's somebody's vacuuming in the other room.

Okay, let's get out of this. Let's go to supersonic. Okay, this is the jet noise.

Okay, let's get out of this. Let's go to supersonic. Okay, this is the jet noise.

Yeah, this is the oh yeah, this one sounds like there's a there's a small jet engine a few rooms.

Yeah, this is the oh yeah, this one sounds like there's a there's a small jet engine a few rooms.

Over, like an A three twenty on takeoff.

Over, like an A three twenty on takeoff.

Because it's a lot quieter. And these are adjustable for sound as well. You can you can crank up the sound on these it's not long enough, too many adjustments. Okay, there's somebody vacuuming nearby. Let's go back to this.

Because it's a lot quieter. And these are adjustable for sound as well. You can you can crank up the sound on these it's not long enough, too many adjustments. Okay, there's somebody vacuuming nearby. Let's go back to this.

Yeah, it's the best one. It is the best one.

Yeah, it's the best one. It is the best one.

Or you can turn it completely off and just listen to the sweet sounds of nothing. Go back, and then when you use launch control you can dial in how much grip there is. You can go from high, medium to low.

Or you can turn it completely off and just listen to the sweet sounds of nothing. Go back, and then when you use launch control you can dial in how much grip there is. You can go from high, medium to low.

Why would you want low?

Why would you want low?

The stability control system optimizes for it, like if you try to do it on the slippery surface, it won't introduce as much torque immediately. And this is all we'll drive do. But that's just how much power this thing is. Let's go to turn an E shift on again.

The stability control system optimizes for it, like if you try to do it on the slippery surface, it won't introduce as much torque immediately. And this is all we'll drive do. But that's just how much power this thing is. Let's go to turn an E shift on again.

I think i'd get task overload in this car.

I think i'd get task overload in this car.

There's a lot going on. You can lock in a bunch of your settings into the end modes, but still there's a lot going on. I wish there was one button just to turn on the eight speed transmission and the sound. So the skip has just a giant three hundred foot radius circle and most cars, when you drive around it, the front tires give up first. That's understeer. But in this car, the test team came back and was like, I've never driven a car like that on the skid pad. It just oversteered. It just wanted to drift the entire time.

There's a lot going on. You can lock in a bunch of your settings into the end modes, but still there's a lot going on. I wish there was one button just to turn on the eight speed transmission and the sound. So the skip has just a giant three hundred foot radius circle and most cars, when you drive around it, the front tires give up first. That's understeer. But in this car, the test team came back and was like, I've never driven a car like that on the skid pad. It just oversteered. It just wanted to drift the entire time.

And you can control the drift.

And you can control the drift.

Yes, yeah, it's all programmable.

Yes, yeah, it's all programmable.

It's amazing.

It's amazing.

It's all part of the simplit.

It's all part of the simplit.

That's amazing. And it's a heavy, heavy car, it is.

That's amazing. And it's a heavy, heavy car, it is.

It's almost five thousand pounds. I think it's like forty eight and change, right.

It's almost five thousand pounds. I think it's like forty eight and change, right.

Yeah, but at least it's big, you know, at least spacious.

Yeah, but at least it's big, you know, at least spacious.

I've taken a regular Ionic five to Ikea and I fit a lot of stuff in the car because it basically has an suv shape.

I've taken a regular Ionic five to Ikea and I fit a lot of stuff in the car because it basically has an suv shape.

It's just a little bit so right. Yeah, it's like GTI.

It's just a little bit so right. Yeah, it's like GTI.

Were in first gear right now, just creeping around.

Were in first gear right now, just creeping around.

I mean, they.

I mean, they.

Could really tune this to drive like any car. But I imagine they should give me more modes, but just make it easier to cycle through them. So now we're in eighth gear. The engine while the tachometer is turning over fourteen hundred rpm and im floor it. Yeah, and it just lugs along just like it as if it was an a laundra n in eighth gear.

Could really tune this to drive like any car. But I imagine they should give me more modes, but just make it easier to cycle through them. So now we're in eighth gear. The engine while the tachometer is turning over fourteen hundred rpm and im floor it. Yeah, and it just lugs along just like it as if it was an a laundra n in eighth gear.

And this is a much stiffer structure than the regular ionic Like there's like forty two additional welding points. There's almost seven feet of additional structural adhesives. Making it stiff is really important for the suspension to do its optimal job.

And this is a much stiffer structure than the regular ionic Like there's like forty two additional welding points. There's almost seven feet of additional structural adhesives. Making it stiff is really important for the suspension to do its optimal job.

It's even the tachometer. You can hear sort of the idle bouncing as if it's got a really hot canon or something.

It's even the tachometer. You can hear sort of the idle bouncing as if it's got a really hot canon or something.

I mean, it's a very welcome con you know, it is. It's very true, good tasting poison.

I mean, it's a very welcome con you know, it is. It's very true, good tasting poison.

The verbal.

The verbal.

No, this thing is set up pretty damp stuff too.

No, this thing is set up pretty damp stuff too.

It is.

It is.

I was gonna go around art de facto a skip bad year. It's got tons of grit. Body control is good. The steering feels terrific. Getting some mid corner bumps here nice. Oh my god, I am fooled. I am completely fooled.

I was gonna go around art de facto a skip bad year. It's got tons of grit. Body control is good. The steering feels terrific. Getting some mid corner bumps here nice. Oh my god, I am fooled. I am completely fooled.

This is really metal, you man, this is really amazing. Wow, way to go, and all right, well done.

This is really metal, you man, this is really amazing. Wow, way to go, and all right, well done.

I mean, they really know how to tune a car.

I mean, they really know how to tune a car.

Yeah, and stacular, and they know what a car is supposed to feel like, yeah, I'm gonna take a turn at it.

Yeah, and stacular, and they know what a car is supposed to feel like, yeah, I'm gonna take a turn at it.

Can't be fooled by this. Oh yeah, you get a little vibration through the pedal. It's weird. It's like it feels authentic. It does, and you can just have it. You can have it earwaight like burger.

Can't be fooled by this. Oh yeah, you get a little vibration through the pedal. It's weird. It's like it feels authentic. It does, and you can just have it. You can have it earwaight like burger.

King dude, nuts no lift shift? Yeah is that why?

King dude, nuts no lift shift? Yeah is that why?

Yeah? You definitely feel it in your inner ear.

Yeah? You definitely feel it in your inner ear.

But it's so much more fun to accelerate in this than in a regular EV even though EV's are.

But it's so much more fun to accelerate in this than in a regular EV even though EV's are.

Brutally quick and with those auto down shifts. Dude, this is great. And the breaks are solid.

Brutally quick and with those auto down shifts. Dude, this is great. And the breaks are solid.

Yeah, the breaks are nice. It's got gigantic breaks. I think there are fifteen point seven inch roders, but it.

Yeah, the breaks are nice. It's got gigantic breaks. I think there are fifteen point seven inch roders, but it.

Feels like completely friction breaking, like no region, right.

Feels like completely friction breaking, like no region, right.

I mean, they spent a lot of time. There were many, many, many prototype drives of this metal. How long the development.

I mean, they spent a lot of time. There were many, many, many prototype drives of this metal. How long the development.

Took, but it worked. And I've always been so impressed by what they do in the end shop. You know, they really take their cars up, you know, several notches. How much have we depleted the battery since we started?

Took, but it worked. And I've always been so impressed by what they do in the end shop. You know, they really take their cars up, you know, several notches. How much have we depleted the battery since we started?

I think we're at like eighty five percent. Okay, a couple of hard excels.

I think we're at like eighty five percent. Okay, a couple of hard excels.

You know, you can get all the hockey gear and the kids in the back, and that's something you don't normally get in a performance car. You get in a performance suv, but there are real trade offs for an internal combustion performance suv because all the masses are high, whereas here they're all low and centered between the axles. And it really is like the ULTI I met big GTI.

You know, you can get all the hockey gear and the kids in the back, and that's something you don't normally get in a performance car. You get in a performance suv, but there are real trade offs for an internal combustion performance suv because all the masses are high, whereas here they're all low and centered between the axles. And it really is like the ULTI I met big GTI.

Yeah, it's the ultimate hot hatch. Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. I can't think of any other hot hatch that delivers this kind of performance. I think it was three seconds to sixty eleven to one in the quarter at one hundred and twenty three miles an hour. It's just ridiculous that before wild and it's not boring. I'm not bored by this car.

Yeah, it's the ultimate hot hatch. Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. I can't think of any other hot hatch that delivers this kind of performance. I think it was three seconds to sixty eleven to one in the quarter at one hundred and twenty three miles an hour. It's just ridiculous that before wild and it's not boring. I'm not bored by this car.

How can you be? That's just so awesome. Now it's throwing all kinds of warning mites and coats.

How can you be? That's just so awesome. Now it's throwing all kinds of warning mites and coats.

Well, you just leap onto traffic so quickly and doesn't know what to do.

Well, you just leap onto traffic so quickly and doesn't know what to do.

Okay, I'm using the reach end panels to shift, which I like. That's a very sort of natural intuitive experience.

Okay, I'm using the reach end panels to shift, which I like. That's a very sort of natural intuitive experience.

But kudo's to Hyundai for doing this first. Right. Everybody else has sort of like played at the idea, has discussed I don't know, maybe we'll do that. I think Toyota was playing with a manual transmission, but here it is and it works, and.

But kudo's to Hyundai for doing this first. Right. Everybody else has sort of like played at the idea, has discussed I don't know, maybe we'll do that. I think Toyota was playing with a manual transmission, but here it is and it works, and.

I'm fooled, so smart, I'm totally fooled, and I'm happy to be fooled. It's like a very much an idealized version of an internal combustion car with all the smoothness of an EV but the sound and the fury of the experience. Yes, but it's kind of the best of both worlds.

I'm fooled, so smart, I'm totally fooled, and I'm happy to be fooled. It's like a very much an idealized version of an internal combustion car with all the smoothness of an EV but the sound and the fury of the experience. Yes, but it's kind of the best of both worlds.

Yeah, you can have both.

Yeah, you can have both.

All right, I'm buy this.

All right, I'm buy this.

So that was way too much fun. But how did they actually do it? Good question?

So that was way too much fun. But how did they actually do it? Good question?

Coming up, we'll chat with Hyundai product planner Andre Ravinovich about how they brought the all new Ionic five N, the N Active and the NE Shift systems to life. Welcome back to car and drivers into Cars.

Coming up, we'll chat with Hyundai product planner Andre Ravinovich about how they brought the all new Ionic five N, the N Active and the NE Shift systems to life. Welcome back to car and drivers into Cars.

Our guest today is Andre Ravinovich. Andrey is a senior product planner in charge of the Hundai Ionic five N, and he's agreed to answer some of our lingering questions. Welcome to into Cars, Andre.

Our guest today is Andre Ravinovich. Andrey is a senior product planner in charge of the Hundai Ionic five N, and he's agreed to answer some of our lingering questions. Welcome to into Cars, Andre.

Hi, Tony, good to be here.

Hi, Tony, good to be here.

I'm excited.

I'm excited.

It's obviously a really exciting car that I'm happy to be a part of, and I'm excited to talk more about it.

It's obviously a really exciting car that I'm happy to be a part of, and I'm excited to talk more about it.

So we've just experienced N Active Sound and n E Shift, the way these systems fool you into thinking that this electric car has an internal combustion engined under the hood is so convincing it's leading me into an existential crisis. Who had the brilliant idea of N active sound and N E shift.

So we've just experienced N Active Sound and n E Shift, the way these systems fool you into thinking that this electric car has an internal combustion engined under the hood is so convincing it's leading me into an existential crisis. Who had the brilliant idea of N active sound and N E shift.

So, you know, in talking to some of the engineers in Korea, nomyank right, I think there is really no benchmark for this car is how they approached it, and they want to look at it, find a way to create a product and create a performance EV model that kind of allow that bridge for enthusiasts to get into something that's in the EV and become engaged and happy about driving. Me personally, for example, a lot of times I saw evs as not necessarily end of the world, but not the most engaging things to be a part of, right, And I think that was the approach for those two features, is to beat almost like a key bridge feature for enthusiasts to be really engaged with EV vehicles.

So, you know, in talking to some of the engineers in Korea, nomyank right, I think there is really no benchmark for this car is how they approached it, and they want to look at it, find a way to create a product and create a performance EV model that kind of allow that bridge for enthusiasts to get into something that's in the EV and become engaged and happy about driving. Me personally, for example, a lot of times I saw evs as not necessarily end of the world, but not the most engaging things to be a part of, right, And I think that was the approach for those two features, is to beat almost like a key bridge feature for enthusiasts to be really engaged with EV vehicles.

One of the things about evs is that they've sort of taken acceleration out of the equation and you guys have put it back, you know, with six hundred and one horse power and the way that that power is delivered through the kind of fake shift mode. It really feels just staggeringly quick, but it doesn't have the kind of torque characteristics of a classic EV. There's a bit of a ramp up to the torque delivery, right.

One of the things about evs is that they've sort of taken acceleration out of the equation and you guys have put it back, you know, with six hundred and one horse power and the way that that power is delivered through the kind of fake shift mode. It really feels just staggeringly quick, but it doesn't have the kind of torque characteristics of a classic EV. There's a bit of a ramp up to the torque delivery, right.

Yeah, So every single gear in that kind of simulated any shifts function has its own torque curve. So it's a combination obviously of kind of simulating that build up you would have in tor kind of a peak as you get to the top end of the gear, and that kind of transition to the next gear obviously is a combination between playing around I guess with the primeters of the motor as well as actually the regen So the regen system of the car helps to simulate that kind of shift shock fuel a normal car transmission, that transition between one gear and another is really could theoretically be really smooth if there wasn't a clutch or if there was any kind of channical componentary to it. Right, you're just shifting torque curves essentially, and I think that that addition of the combination of playing around I guess with the motor parameters and the regen system bring back that kind of mechanical shift shock feel, which makes them really engaging to drive.

Yeah, So every single gear in that kind of simulated any shifts function has its own torque curve. So it's a combination obviously of kind of simulating that build up you would have in tor kind of a peak as you get to the top end of the gear, and that kind of transition to the next gear obviously is a combination between playing around I guess with the primeters of the motor as well as actually the regen So the regen system of the car helps to simulate that kind of shift shock fuel a normal car transmission, that transition between one gear and another is really could theoretically be really smooth if there wasn't a clutch or if there was any kind of channical componentary to it. Right, you're just shifting torque curves essentially, and I think that that addition of the combination of playing around I guess with the motor parameters and the regen system bring back that kind of mechanical shift shock feel, which makes them really engaging to drive.

So it sounds like you could do anything. So you could do anything from like a Ferrari V twelve to an unmuffled tau Va to a Geometro even have you considered programming different cars as an option? I would pay a lot extra if I had that in my Ionic five.

So it sounds like you could do anything. So you could do anything from like a Ferrari V twelve to an unmuffled tau Va to a Geometro even have you considered programming different cars as an option? I would pay a lot extra if I had that in my Ionic five.

N Yeah, you know, that's something that's been commonly asked of us recently. I think it's something that would be relatively easy to do. I think we want to start with the sounds that we have in the car now, and we'll have to see what comes in the future. Like you said, it could be anything, and to be something that I think personally would be very exciting for customers to be able to kind of pick and choose. And you can tailor other parameters of the car, not just the sound. You can tailor the shifting right. Instead of simulating an eight speed dual clutch, why couldn't you simulate a five speed manual right and have a longer transition between gears right. It doesn't necessarily have to be a very fast DCT. So yeah, I think that that's actually the excitement of what this opportunity brings right. I think this to us is just the beginning.

N Yeah, you know, that's something that's been commonly asked of us recently. I think it's something that would be relatively easy to do. I think we want to start with the sounds that we have in the car now, and we'll have to see what comes in the future. Like you said, it could be anything, and to be something that I think personally would be very exciting for customers to be able to kind of pick and choose. And you can tailor other parameters of the car, not just the sound. You can tailor the shifting right. Instead of simulating an eight speed dual clutch, why couldn't you simulate a five speed manual right and have a longer transition between gears right. It doesn't necessarily have to be a very fast DCT. So yeah, I think that that's actually the excitement of what this opportunity brings right. I think this to us is just the beginning.

It's a big car, it's a heavy car, but it's great on the track. And have you measured lap times with and without an E shift enabled?

It's a big car, it's a heavy car, but it's great on the track. And have you measured lap times with and without an E shift enabled?

Me personally, I have not.

Me personally, I have not.

We did an event at Luguna Seka about a month or so ago and we had some of our drivers that are actually running Pike's Peak in about a month or so. They obviously had a lot of track time and drove the car both ways with and without any shift, and I think, as you would expect without an E shift is obviously faster, but I think the feedback from them was it's actually more engaging to have the N shift on. It also helps you on track because it helps put in perspective where you are on the course and entry speeds into corners right, all the things that you typically would find that a normal gasoline car that kind of get lost a little bit in evs right, You get into a corner in then EV and you kind of just go off thought. Obviously the regent is going to kick in a little bit, but you don't have that sense of like, am I going too deep into a corner?

We did an event at Luguna Seka about a month or so ago and we had some of our drivers that are actually running Pike's Peak in about a month or so. They obviously had a lot of track time and drove the car both ways with and without any shift, and I think, as you would expect without an E shift is obviously faster, but I think the feedback from them was it's actually more engaging to have the N shift on. It also helps you on track because it helps put in perspective where you are on the course and entry speeds into corners right, all the things that you typically would find that a normal gasoline car that kind of get lost a little bit in evs right, You get into a corner in then EV and you kind of just go off thought. Obviously the regent is going to kick in a little bit, but you don't have that sense of like, am I going too deep into a corner?

Am I?

Am I?

You know?

You know?

Am I at the right breaking point.

Am I at the right breaking point.

I think the shifting kind of gives a sensible way to know where you are right.

I think the shifting kind of gives a sensible way to know where you are right.

You don't have to say second guess yourself. You don't have to predict how the regen is going to break you into a corner. So I would think that it would give you an extra measure of control and confidence. Definitely.

You don't have to say second guess yourself. You don't have to predict how the regen is going to break you into a corner. So I would think that it would give you an extra measure of control and confidence. Definitely.

Now you mentioned regent and you know I said before the regen is part of this an E shift function. But the more I talked to some of the engineering guys and Nommeo, I find how incredible amount of thought went into all the details of all the features in this car. Typically, when you drive an EV you kind of choose, you know, regen level like one, two, three. As you're driving Ionic five N in any shift mode, that level of regen is different depending what gear you're on, And that's kind of similar to if you're driving a gasoline car. If you're in a higher gear versus lower gear, you have more engine breaking versus lge engine breaking depending what vehicle speed and gear you're on. So that's all played into that kind of adding the realism to this function.

Now you mentioned regent and you know I said before the regen is part of this an E shift function. But the more I talked to some of the engineering guys and Nommeo, I find how incredible amount of thought went into all the details of all the features in this car. Typically, when you drive an EV you kind of choose, you know, regen level like one, two, three. As you're driving Ionic five N in any shift mode, that level of regen is different depending what gear you're on, And that's kind of similar to if you're driving a gasoline car. If you're in a higher gear versus lower gear, you have more engine breaking versus lge engine breaking depending what vehicle speed and gear you're on. So that's all played into that kind of adding the realism to this function.

Is there a part of the Ionic five N of which you're particularly proud that you're like, well, yes, we got that through.

Is there a part of the Ionic five N of which you're particularly proud that you're like, well, yes, we got that through.

I mean, you know, I think the NY shift is obviously the star feature in many ways. I know we've been talking a lot about it, but there's a lot to it. I think one of the things that spent a lot of focus on is getting that longevity of the car. So I think one of the challenges with EV's is being able to do, for example, multiple laps consistently in a race course and be able to have the consistency in speed, being able to have the consistency and cooling performance and battery performance and motor output. And I think this is another huge aspect of this car, is how much differentiation there is to the five end versus the regular five and focusing on cooling, and focusing on track performance and continuity.

I mean, you know, I think the NY shift is obviously the star feature in many ways. I know we've been talking a lot about it, but there's a lot to it. I think one of the things that spent a lot of focus on is getting that longevity of the car. So I think one of the challenges with EV's is being able to do, for example, multiple laps consistently in a race course and be able to have the consistency in speed, being able to have the consistency and cooling performance and battery performance and motor output. And I think this is another huge aspect of this car, is how much differentiation there is to the five end versus the regular five and focusing on cooling, and focusing on track performance and continuity.

Andrea, is an E shift patented? Did you guys patent this or is it open to everyone else in the EV sphere now? Which is a great thing. I hope that's the answer.

Andrea, is an E shift patented? Did you guys patent this or is it open to everyone else in the EV sphere now? Which is a great thing. I hope that's the answer.

That's a good question, And I honestly don't know.

That's a good question, And I honestly don't know.

I personally kind of hope that it, you know, as much as I would love to protect it for ourselves, I kind of hope that it's not. I think what's exciting about this car, and talking to a lot of the team and OMNIONG is that they wanted to kind of set not only a benchmark, but kind of set the starting point right. They know the five end is amazing, but they know it's not perfect. And I think everybody's excited about what this could bring to EV's in general.

I personally kind of hope that it, you know, as much as I would love to protect it for ourselves, I kind of hope that it's not. I think what's exciting about this car, and talking to a lot of the team and OMNIONG is that they wanted to kind of set not only a benchmark, but kind of set the starting point right. They know the five end is amazing, but they know it's not perfect. And I think everybody's excited about what this could bring to EV's in general.

That's exactly how how we felt about it. Immediately. We were like, yes, we're part of the matrix now and we're down with it.

That's exactly how how we felt about it. Immediately. We were like, yes, we're part of the matrix now and we're down with it.

To me, it's so exciting that evs are so configurable. Essentially, you can do anything right. You can detune the power on this car, you can shift toward front the rear, you can simulate a real, real drive car. Tony, you asked earlier about different sounds, right, It just blows my mind, like how much opportunity there is for the future of what we can do with cars like this.

To me, it's so exciting that evs are so configurable. Essentially, you can do anything right. You can detune the power on this car, you can shift toward front the rear, you can simulate a real, real drive car. Tony, you asked earlier about different sounds, right, It just blows my mind, like how much opportunity there is for the future of what we can do with cars like this.

The mixing board has a lot of knobs on dre Yeah, definitely.

The mixing board has a lot of knobs on dre Yeah, definitely.