The recent outrage over the live transportation of 19000 cattle via sea from Brazil to Iraq has opened up a discussion on the way in which animals are reared and taken to be slaughtered, this panel discussion looks at the dynamics involved and whether it can be conducted in a more humane manner. Our guests are Thabile Nkunjana, Agricultural Economist at National Agricultural Marketing Council, Angus McIntosh, better known as Farmer Angus and who practices sustainable farming; and Toni Brockhoven of Beauty Without Cruelty.