Rebecca Davis, senior journalist at Daily Maverick, speaks to John Maytham for this week's Plan B, reflecting on the anti-immigrant protests she covered across the Garden Route and why she believes South Africa has reached a dangerous moment. She shares her concerns about children witnessing and participating in acts of intimidation, challenges the claim that the protests are only about undocumented migrants, and warns that xenophobia can quickly give way to broader forms of prejudice. They also discuss President Cyril Ramaphosa's appointment of Dina Pule to Cabinet before ending the conversation on a lighter note with a humorous Gen Z "aura" quiz.

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