Lester Kiewit speaks to Sasha Stevenson, the executive director of Section27 who have been representing some of the families of victims in the Life Esidimeni case. A court has now found that former Gauteng Health MEC Qedani Mahlangu and the former head of the Mental Health Directorate, Makgabo Manamela are responsible for the deaths of at least nine of the 144 victims.