John Maytham speaks to Velenkosini Hlabisa, Minister of Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs, about the urgent need to address rising deaths in traditional initiation practices. With at least 27 fatalities in the Eastern Cape due to dehydration and abuse, Minister Hlabisa calls for suspending initiation ceremonies in areas with unregistered schools, emphasizing the need for better oversight and medical care to protect initiates while preserving cultural practices.