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Tell you what. I am so glad I'm not working in the health system this morning. Not that I'd be much useful. I was because I've never been that great with blood. But the reason I'm glad I'm not a doctor or a nurse, or a GP or a specialist, anyone really in the health system. The reason I'm glad I'm not one of them is the big stick that's been pointed at all those people by the government with these new targets that it confirmed yesterday, the new health targets. If I was starting a shift on a ward somewhere right now, you know what I'll be thinking. I'll be thinking, here we go again. Here we go again. Another government trading health as if it's a factory and only doing it to look good for the people on the sidelines, not the ones in there doing the doing, not the doctors and the nurses of the GPS, the specialists or any of them. And it's not just this government either. The governments have done it. They've done it for years, tinkering with waiting lists, promising big spend ups, but not delivering. Labour's done it, they're guilty. National has done it. Now the coalition's doing it. And the reason governments do it is because they think we are sucked in by all this serious face performance indicator stuff, when all it does is set us up for disappointment and makes the people who do all the amazing work in our whole system people have just mentioned, makes them feel like they're nothing more than political puppets. It don't get me wrong, I'm all for trying to do things better. I'm all for trying to be as successful as you can be in something. That's what drives us here. You know, we know what's expected of us and we know how it's going to be measured. But we're also asked, and Jess, we'll confirm this. We are also asked time and time again by the haunhows why do we need to be successful? What support do we need? All of that stuff. All the time, they're asking us something that doctors and nurses and gps and specialists aren't being asked by this government and haven't been asked by any government. All they're told is do better, do better, do better. And today they're being told that ninety percent of cancer patients have to start getting treatment within a month. They've been told that ninety five percent of kids have to be fully immunized by the time they're too They've been told that ninety five percent of people to turn up to an emergency department have to be treated, discharged, or transferred somewhere else within six hours. And they've been told that ninety five percent of people can't be left waiting longer than four months for elective surgery. All right, it's a talk that's coming at them today which all sounds brilliant. I mean on paper, looks good on paper, sounds good, sounds promising, but there's no more money coming to make it happen. That healthman is, to Shane Ready, sends to think that's not going to be too much of a problem. Is a bit of what he had to say to Mike about that a couple of hours ago.

Tell you what. I am so glad I'm not working in the health system this morning. Not that I'd be much useful. I was because I've never been that great with blood. But the reason I'm glad I'm not a doctor or a nurse, or a GP or a specialist, anyone really in the health system. The reason I'm glad I'm not one of them is the big stick that's been pointed at all those people by the government with these new targets that it confirmed yesterday, the new health targets. If I was starting a shift on a ward somewhere right now, you know what I'll be thinking. I'll be thinking, here we go again. Here we go again. Another government trading health as if it's a factory and only doing it to look good for the people on the sidelines, not the ones in there doing the doing, not the doctors and the nurses of the GPS, the specialists or any of them. And it's not just this government either. The governments have done it. They've done it for years, tinkering with waiting lists, promising big spend ups, but not delivering. Labour's done it, they're guilty. National has done it. Now the coalition's doing it. And the reason governments do it is because they think we are sucked in by all this serious face performance indicator stuff, when all it does is set us up for disappointment and makes the people who do all the amazing work in our whole system people have just mentioned, makes them feel like they're nothing more than political puppets. It don't get me wrong, I'm all for trying to do things better. I'm all for trying to be as successful as you can be in something. That's what drives us here. You know, we know what's expected of us and we know how it's going to be measured. But we're also asked, and Jess, we'll confirm this. We are also asked time and time again by the haunhows why do we need to be successful? What support do we need? All of that stuff. All the time, they're asking us something that doctors and nurses and gps and specialists aren't being asked by this government and haven't been asked by any government. All they're told is do better, do better, do better. And today they're being told that ninety percent of cancer patients have to start getting treatment within a month. They've been told that ninety five percent of kids have to be fully immunized by the time they're too They've been told that ninety five percent of people to turn up to an emergency department have to be treated, discharged, or transferred somewhere else within six hours. And they've been told that ninety five percent of people can't be left waiting longer than four months for elective surgery. All right, it's a talk that's coming at them today which all sounds brilliant. I mean on paper, looks good on paper, sounds good, sounds promising, but there's no more money coming to make it happen. That healthman is, to Shane Ready, sends to think that's not going to be too much of a problem. Is a bit of what he had to say to Mike about that a couple of hours ago.

But will never be enough. No country has enough in health, that's the nature of things. But for the objectives that we have and the task that we have in the physical constraints that we have, as you've heard the Commissioner say, there is enough for us to deliver a high quality service. We would always want to do more. Everyone wants to do more, but deliver a high quality service. The funding is the highest funding we've had ever in Health ausering.

But will never be enough. No country has enough in health, that's the nature of things. But for the objectives that we have and the task that we have in the physical constraints that we have, as you've heard the Commissioner say, there is enough for us to deliver a high quality service. We would always want to do more. Everyone wants to do more, but deliver a high quality service. The funding is the highest funding we've had ever in Health ausering.

Oh yeah, yeah, So Health New Zealand is going to have to achieve all these targets with the money it's already got, which the president of the Nurses union, Kerri Nuku says, is just setting the system up for failure again. Here's what she told Ryan Bridge on early edition.

Oh yeah, yeah, So Health New Zealand is going to have to achieve all these targets with the money it's already got, which the president of the Nurses union, Kerri Nuku says, is just setting the system up for failure again. Here's what she told Ryan Bridge on early edition.

The government health to target measures process, not outcomes, and they're centered mainly around waiting this and access and flow through the system. But if we fail to look at the reasons for the blockages and the chokish points and the delays within the systems now, which is workforce and resourcing, then we're going to fail to execute any ambitious targets. And that is the problem here. We've had a system that's being chronically underfunded for years and chronically understaff.

The government health to target measures process, not outcomes, and they're centered mainly around waiting this and access and flow through the system. But if we fail to look at the reasons for the blockages and the chokish points and the delays within the systems now, which is workforce and resourcing, then we're going to fail to execute any ambitious targets. And that is the problem here. We've had a system that's being chronically underfunded for years and chronically understaff.

So it's a bit more of that, he said. She said, but I'll tell you what, I am much more inclined to believe the people on the wards, in the operating theaters, people in the GPS practices, much more inclined to believe them than I am the government, in fact, much more inclined to believe them than any government.

So it's a bit more of that, he said. She said, but I'll tell you what, I am much more inclined to believe the people on the wards, in the operating theaters, people in the GPS practices, much more inclined to believe them than I am the government, in fact, much more inclined to believe them than any government.

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