Call It What It IsJess & Camilla are putting on their dancing shoes because DWTS Mirror Ball-winning queen, Jenna Johnson, is here!
She talks about partner withdrawal, her dream pairing and hears why Jess & Camilla want to meet her on the dance floor to compete.
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Luddington, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is. Jessica kpsha, how.
Are you feeling today? Well, it's raining in New York City and so I'm feeling a bit damp. Other than that, Other than that, we have Jenna Johnson on today. No, you know that I'm a huge Dancing with the Stars fan, so I've been really looking forward to this day. We've been trying to get her on since the season was actually still active, and our schedules have just not aligned. But now they have, and I could not be more excited to have this gorgeous, talented guest.
Be honest, are you wearing because we can't see you wearing jazz shoes just in case, just.
So we're clear, I look down at my feet preemptively when you said are.
You yeah, because you don't know, because maybe you'd throw in the morn in case you need to show her some moves.
We all know that I'm not showing anyone. It's a quick audition. Can you imagine if I just decided to lay it down she would love it off. She would this would end. Or just one more thing, Jen, just one more, just one more thing, one more move? What about this one more thing? Miss Johnson? Oh my god.
Okay, just just do me a favor and just take a deep breath before she comes in and just like, you know, be a little bit cool.
Okay, you want me to play this cool? When have I ever played anything cool?
No?
But this time I'm it's a special request, and yes, bring her in?
All right?
Fine, Hi, We've been trying to get you on for so long because I am tried and true dancing with the stores fan.
She's die hard, Jenna, she's dying.
And you're the second. You're the You're our second guest. We had Julianne first. I adore her and and and we were trying to get you on when the show was still actually you know, happening.
So thank you for being here with us.
We're so excited here, thanks for having How do you feel?
How has the wind sunk in? How do you do you have? Are you feeling still like a winner? Are you riding just as high? What have you done with all that winningness?
And where is the trophy?
Yeah? You guys do you want to see something?
Yes, we do.
Oh my gosh, this is so embarrassing.
It's not but so oh my god, this is look at all those mirror of.
Blights and this is a racket that was in my freestyle. So it's just like a little.
Corner of am I counting five?
There?
No?
Yes, oh it's five?
Three? Are vowels two or mine?
Well we need to add some more to yours.
I wouldn't love that.
And also, look how gorgeous you are. Guys.
I'm such a nerd because I just love the show so much, and like the rest of America when I when you watch the show, you're like, oh, I'm sure it's like what everyone gets like, they can't possibly be that cute in real life, and then you see them in real life and you're like, yeah, they are.
Thank you, really, you're that good.
Thank you.
You went from being just you to wow, wow.
I appreciate that. Welcome to my home, Welcome to MTV Cribs. No, it's been amazing. Obviously, I just you ride this cloud of just happiness, exhaustion, relief. But I just felt like I had such an incredible partner. So I was just so grateful but then it's so wild because you have all of that high and then inevitably you're like in this deep depression because it's all over. You've just created this insane bond with somebody for three months, you spend every day together, you're like each other's teammates, you go through very high stress situations together, and then it's just done, and you're like that experience is over, that that purpose is over. It's just it's a wild and it happens every year, so you would think that we would know how to deal with it or expect it, but every year is so hard because the person that you meet or your partner is somebody new, and so yeah, it's wild. I just again, but I'm trying to stay with the positives of I'm just so grateful I was able to first of all, meet Joey, go through that wild ride together, have incredible win in that moment. It was just a dream come true. So I'm so beyond grateful. Obviously, you know, there's like rumblings of the new season coming up and all of this stuff, and so that anxiety sets in of like, oh my goodness, I want to be competitive, I want to have another incredible season, But you know, I'm grateful at this time.
Now, I have a question before it gets announced to us and the world, who is on Dancing with the Stars right, Like, who's gonna be on the next season?
When do you guys find out?
Because often for us, on like Grey's Anatomy, something will be announced and we won't have even heard about it.
It'll be like this person's joining the cast. I'm like, they are, Oh my god, I haven't read that up. So how much do you know? And how long before it gets announced?
We don't know any of that stuff.
You don't know you're fighting out with the world.
Yes, So they really try to keep it very hush hush, and I totally get that they don't want leaks. But then from like when we meet our partners to when the whole cast is announced, we probably know for like maybe a week before you guys know, because we always do a reveal on Good Morning America. They really keep everything so secretive. They want our reactions to be genuine. They don't want things getting announced or revealed beforehand. They want that Good Morning America revealed to be like here.
Is do you feel like?
Because I mean again, I'm sort of a I guess I'm a Dancing with the Stars late bloomer like I didn't. I didn't come to the show early seasons. I knew it, and I every time I would see it, I would really be I would be just so, I honestly, I would be very impressed by just where you start with people and where those people end, like the.
In terms of frust jazz, that's hope. There's none for me. There's there might be for you, there's none for me. Let's I just want to call it what it is. Okay, okay, let's do that. These feet will not be on that phew. You don't think you could do a foxtrot? In no world I could be Foxy and trot. I think Jenna could teach you to fox trot.
You'll understand what my job description is. Well, I know, I know who doesn't know how to dance? How to dance?
I know, I know, I know, and really you don't know me. But I'm the I'm the farthest thing from negative. So I promise you I'm not just like faux There's no.
Faux humility here.
There's real experience, uh of feeling like I can see a dance step shown to me, I can I can see, someone can draw it out, they.
Can video it. It just doesn't translate into your body. It's that part of my brain. It doesn't stick. Well, that's why they're Anyways, we digress.
Okay, Yes, I was sort of a you know, I would watch it from Afar, But then it was my daughters that really were like they became megafans. And then I sat down long enough between doing all the things that you do with when you have four kids, and I sat down long enough to watch a little bit more. And then there was a moment, was a tipping point, and I was in. And then I was in for the dancing as much as I was the storytelling because it's so human and so you all do such an incredible job, and those editors who are there awards for that.
So those editors get awards because the way that you.
That they slice and dice and give you all that what must be hours of footage, hours and hours, and they can.
Is some of this live when we perform, it's all live.
Yeah, So like they're editing on the job, which is yeah, but they're also editing all the rehearsals. And then someone's got an injury, and I'm telling you, I know editing, they're definitely like making a lot out of it, Like the injury could be like me, it's fine, but like they're going to make it seem like an emergency room visit is imminent.
A love, That's what.
Makes me in I think that's why Dancing with the Stars is so special is because you really get these two worlds of where it feels sport, where they are athletes showing up, but then it's also mixed with artistry. So I think that's why there's like so much risk of there could be injuries or going into this lift, how is that going to go? You know, so there's always this like high risk, but then you paint it with this artistry and the intimacy and sensuality of it all and partners all of that, and it just it's so unique, like there is nothing else like that.
Let's talk about the sensuality for just a second, shall we. I knew you were gonna jump on a Jess.
Let's get into it.
She said the magic word for Jess's next question. Okay, go on, Jess.
You all really make it seem intimate and very sensual, and you're obvious, and you are married to a dancer, and so he's creating his chemistry with his partner. You're creating your chemistry with your partner. Y'all are definitely selling it. Like I'm I'm like, how are they even do they have do they have bedrooms? Are they sleeping in the same house?
Like? How do you go home after your husband just watched you do that dance?
Right?
It's unbelievable.
I you know, this is one of my favorite questions because everybody always has it, and it's I understand. I think the best way for me to explain this is if you were to watch a movie, would you want to watch a scene and do you want to cry or do you want to feel real, raw emotion? And the answer for me is always yes. So they're doing their job. If they came, they delivered the lines, there was no emotion behind it. There wasn't any commitment to the character. You wouldn't believe it. And that's why people walk away with Oscar nominations and Oscar trophies.
Okay, yep, but hold on, I'm interrupting. I'm only interrupting because again I watched the show. It's not just the dancing. That makes me feel like you guys are all in. It's when you're listening to your feedback. It's when I think that's the part where as a partner, I'd be like, did you need to hold her hand? Like the whole time that you were listening to how you guys did today.
It's so funny because those things for us don't bobster because of course not. Since I was eight years old, I've been partnered with a boy and he's been my teammate and deepen on the same goal of we're going to go out on the dance floor. We're gonna smash and sell these routines, and we're partners. So when we walk around the dance floor or walk around, we're holding hands because we are a team. So and we forget his dancers like that is such an intimate visual, that's part of it. Yes, yeah, yeah, we're like bragging our partner around the floor, like over it.
Must be easier to be married to someone who gets it, yeah, because they're not in the audience.
I think they're probably not in the audience.
Right, But Joey's fiance showed up week after week after week, and I remember being like he's not a professional, I.
Know, but but I'm imagining and you can speak to this Jedda that this experience, because it's only three months, is like in your experience is a dancer in overdrive, and that intimacy that doesn't have to be romantic is teammate is just like insane. It's an insane boot camp experience that bonds you.
You're in a bubble. You are yeah, and it is a weird social experiment and you have no time to really like lightly get into things because like you said, there are only three months of this, but somebody also gets eliminated week after week after week. So honestly, like day one, week one, I am breaking the ice and all of the barriers with a partner of like, this is gonna be super weird and really intense. We're gonna be in each other's space. But as soon as we break that like that wall, that's when we're gonna create magic of like there's gonna be trust, there's gonna be friendship, there's gonna be bond Like We're probably not gonna like each other all of the time because I'm gonna be yelling at you, I'm gonna be in your face, I'm gonna like, I expect so much from you. So yeah, there's a vulnerability. There is, I guess you could say an intimacy in that experience because it is a very tight knit relationship. But that's all about just having chemistry with your partner, and I think all of us as pros understand that that is a necessity to do well on the show, not just because of how it looks, but because of that trust. And yeah, in case with your partner, you.
Know, no, I get I get that no one people vibe.
And when they don't, it translates whether you're in the skybox, whether you're getting wars in the rehearsal packages. So again, it is a very It is hard I think for people's significant others that aren't in the industry or aren't answers to like see duel. But for me, I always try to make them part of it, to make them feel like nothing's hidden. If that makes sense. Yes, yes, I would always be like with Joey, like go show Kelsey or videos, like we'll do rehearsal, go show her what we learned today, show her this new trick that we did, so it doesn't feel like something.
That's very smart of you as a partner. I have a question that's a little spicy.
Yes, you don't have to name names, okay at all because you can't. But have you ever had a partner and the significant other there are some some vibe but like you're feeling like, I'm not sure they're understanding that this intimacy is just for the show.
Oh. I have had situations where it's been sad watching as a partner my partner's significant other put extra stress on them.
Yeah, yeah, you know that causes because that gets in your head. I'm sure that's like a lot of the times of because yeah, it it helps them not be so committed and they're born and they want to be respectful to like you know, all sides. For me, I always try to be like, listen, this is three months and then you will never have this ever again. You'll never have this opportunity. So for me, I'm always just like, don't leave with any regrets of like looking back and.
Being like that was such a short amount of time that I could have like fully committed to. And again, I think you have to respect your spouse or your significant other first, but you need to also explain to them, like I will never have this opportunity again. So if I don't commit in my Argentine Tango or if I don't commit in my it might affect this experience getting eliminated.
But also it's just a dance.
Yeah, and it's just I mean, like it's not it is just a dance. It's like us going to work and performing.
Like a love scene. At the end of the day, we come home like that's our job for like that day.
Yes, and I think it is really really helpful that my husband is on the show as well. Yeah. Yeah, it helps even see what he's doing with his partner and they are like so safe and sure of our relationships that we wanted to thrive. So I think that's also helpful. And like Valve comes in into my rehearsal a ton and helps my partner out and feel good, gives some pointers.
It's helpful. He's the best Jess because you feel like val could help you with your No, no one can help me.
Anyone can help you. It would be Valentine.
If when you guys get people announced, right, so they announce somebody tomorrow, right, Yeah, are you or is it not? Okay? Are you ever texting producers and be like mine or is that just like not something you can do?
Can you never be like, here's lying? I really want this person.
No, that would be really fun. I'm sure we could do it, but I don't think it would have it.
Do you have a dream partner? Is there someone who you've been like watching something, listening to something, or thinking like, oh my god, it would be so amazing to be partners with that person.
I am shocked every year with who I get and I always just like end up having the best time. So I really trust like our casting director. So far, I would say I have not had a football player.
Oh that's fun.
So and I think that they're just so incredible on the show. They understand like that work ethic and the time and effort that goes into being great. So I think they always really do well on the show I have so I haven't had one of those yet. Jason Kelce, I just keep throwing his name out because I think this would be so fun.
I saw him from across the room at upfronts the other day.
I just think he liked the vibe where he doesn't take things too see.
He seems very relaxed.
Yes, where I think he would be down to like rip off his shirt.
Yeah, I think such to God, John at you and Jason Kelsey, Yes, this needs to happen.
I would just be down for like a really fun person who's just down for the experience, like ye or I'm dancing. It's not that serious at the end of the day. Yes, Oh so I think he would have such great energy.
Do you SIDEI because I do.
N You guys have professional dancers come and be contestants on the show. I'm like, why, and if you're in competition with those people, is it frustrating when you're like, I got a football player and I'm so excited, but like, why do you have this incredible professional answer that I'm not competing against. I don't understand.
I've had both. I've had both. I've had somebody with no experience and I've won with them last season with Joey, and then I've had somebody like Jojo Siwaw, who is a Yeah. Of course, you know, people felt some type of way about that, but it's a completely different battle With somebody like Joey. You're invested in the journey and his like of all becoming a dancer with Jojo. We had to really bring it every week of like do the best routine possible and make magic and have moments and all of that stuff. So there's a lot of pressure when you have a dancer or somebody who already has dance experience. I wouldn't say that that's the easier route. Sometimes it's harder because you're having to like overly prove that they deserve to be there. I've had both. Each journey is very very different.
But like, are you really if you're a great dancer and your technically fantastic, you're not getting marked down in the same way that like Joey would, right, And that's what at the end of the day sort of that ends up being a huge part of the competition.
But that's where the expectations really get to you, and it it kind of feels unfair, like, well, I'm for them. They've never done ballroom before. Yes, they may have like danced, but ballroom and partnering is very different than just like jazzing by yourself, So in a sense, they are learning something new, so they should have that same sort of grace when it comes to being a beginner in ballroom dance.
I don't know, because I don't know if I agree with that, just because I feel like you can make when dancers just carry themselves in a certain way. You put Jess against like Nicole from the Pussy gat Adolls, like whether baller is the first time she's ever got she's going to make it look beautiful. There are certain ways you carry yourself. There's like flexibility that you have.
It might be a leg up when it comes to the dancing, but people also fall in love with the story.
That's true, that's true.
You know.
I have a question from a fan perspective. Yes, when you guys are all up there rooting, you know, cheering each other on, I really do completely buy the camaraderie and that everybody really is rooting for everybody else.
But I'm just going to call it what it is.
Some people are annoying up there when they're standing there waiting and they're like trying to get in front of each other, and like they're like me, and they're like looking at the camera and they're like trying to like grab that moment.
Are you saying that another couple are trying to sort of steal the moment from somebody else or like grab the attention.
They're true.
Yes, they're definitely trying to grab the attention because they're all on like the balcony. That's I've never been to the ballroom, so I'm imagining it's a balcony.
All at the skybox.
Yes, yes, the box.
Okay, So the question is are people as annoying as they look?
Sometimes I'm gonna say that I am not that person, so.
I know you're not.
That's why I'm asking you where She's wondering if you were annoyed by other people who.
I would like to know if you find them annoying.
Personalities are fun, So if people that's a great answer to oh.
For it, I know, but your face kind of said it looked annoying.
You know, as long as all of us are having a good time and you know we're staying on the air, do whatever.
You got to do exactly exactly.
You know what it adds to the spices dress because those people like you watching being like they're so annoying and it's getting you to talk about it, right, Like maybe you have a love hate relationship with the skybox where.
They're being seen and they're getting more votes.
See, that's another reason why I shouldn't go on the show because I would be terrible at that.
I would literally do no uh attention stealing promotion? Are you kidding? You're a Leo.
Leo. She would be up there hamming away. God, I I don't think.
I would, honestly though. It's also sometimes on you're so exhausted from the week that sometimes I'm just like too tired, and I'm like, if I'm praying in my heart that we get through our dance, or if I've already danced, I'm like, thank goodness, and I'm just exhausted. So maybe that's why I'm not eager to get extra screen time.
Yeah, well I'm gonna go I'm gonna go ahead and say I think you're a class act, and that's why you don't do it.
Thank you.
You don't need to do it. You got those mirror bars, That's what I mean.
Like, it's really only the people that need to do it that I see doing it, which makes me annoyed with them.
Who would you like for a Val as a partner?
I love when Val is inspired and excited, so I just want him to have somebody that that gives him good energy. For women, we are a lot more intimidated when it comes to this space. Guys tend to be like, yeah, whatever, I'll put my arm out, you know if they don't take it patly. Yeah, But if you are a female contestant, I think it's hard. It's like you're putting yourself very uncomfortable situation. So always those people that have come in and just been like open and excited and fall in love with dance. He is so inspired by, I would say, somebody like Gingersey. They were partners, and I have just never seen him be so in love with dance. Oh yeah, going up with her. She was just invested in the show, in doing an amazing job, and it was just so fun to see their relationship grow. And she's like near and dear to our family now.
Oh I love that.
She was incredible. Somebody like Tamar Braxton was really fun for him. He was partnered with Normani Cordat and they danced superstars together.
That's what I'm saying. I mean, that's hard to compete against.
You know. It's crazy though. For Nomani. That's when she was still with Fifth Harmony and they had just announced that they were going on their Asian leg of their tour. So he was flying back and forth from Asia the whole season with her. Sometimes they would have like two days to rehearse. One time they rehearsed in a hotel lobby like in Yes, but she was just incredible and then somebody likes sochy. They just had such an epic relationship. He loved the show, she loved the experience. They had such a great bond. So yeah, anytime that he just like vibes with somebody, and yeah.
It really showed. That season was incredible and it really showed. And he does have a smile. You both do, but he has a smile that could just light up a room. Oh yeah, you know when you see his happiness, it's like.
Ah, I would love to see you with Jason and him with Kylie Kelsey. And so you're married couple with married couple.
That would be interesting. Yeah, that could be cute. So doubt all right, ABC threw that out there for you.
Yeah, and your hosts are also so incredible.
Yeah, love them, love them.
So we did an episode last week about well it was technically about mom guilt.
We're trying to find a new name for a Jonah because we're.
Guilt. But you know what, it is what it is, like that that is what we feel.
Yeah, we're trying to We're talking about whether or not that is what we feel or that's what people tell us to feel, right, like we should feel guilty, whereas like what is the value exchange of being a working person? And like how do you explain it to your kids? Because you're not going to You're not going to do something you know for your own benefit solely, right, it might include your own benefit, but it's not. There's like guilty seems like something that you would, you know, feel after you did something that was just for yourself and working as for your whole family. But when you are in like a three month stint that is that sounds as intense as the one you're describing.
Do you do you favor that Rome comes to work sometimes?
Do you favor that he stays where he is and keeps his Like I'm someone who keeps I keep my kids' schedule constant, and then I'm the variable that comes in and out. Yeah, I mean obviously there's times when they come to me. But how do you work that?
Uh? Yeah, it is really difficult and hard and being a new mom and a new working mom and also his schedules are changing in things, So I think this last season was was interesting to navigate. I don't think the word guilt necessarily has to have a negative connotation to it, because I think I think that means that you care. If you are feeling these things, that means that you do care and your heart is torn into different places. And that's definitely what I did feel this this last season. Days that he would come to set were so fun and would give me like this reset ative and be like, oh my goodness, Okay, I'm stressed about these two eights in my fox drop, but I have this bubbly little boy just looking at me for everything, and that gave me so much purpose. But at the end of the day too, I know that I'm also in a very stressed environment and I don't want to put that on him. So I would like do maybe every two weeks he would come to set on a show day, you know, or if I was knew though I was going to be having a more lighthearted day, i'd have him come. But he's just always a breath of fresh air. He always gives me that sense of like grounding and purpose. And even if I would have the longest worst rehearsal, so stressed out, I'd come home and just nothing else mattered. And that's something that I've loved about being a mom, Where before I would take that stress from work and bring it home and just like fester on it and just sit on it and let it ruin the rest of my evening. But as a mom, you don't have time for that, Like you don't have opportunity to know, you need to do dinner, bedtime, bathtime, bottle clean the house, you know. So I've loved that, even though it's chaotic and sometimes I feel like I don't have a second to like breathe myself, it really it's really what I need. And he just, yeah, he is the best I've loved being a mother. Obviously, it has his days where I'm like, man, I missed out on this, or I could have showed up so much better in that regard, I was just exhausted. But I love a challenge, and I think you always have to like challenge yourself and evolve, and it's okay if you have a rough day, like you'll show up better tomorrow. But I think also Valas is really great about He is just so such an incredible dad, and so I think I'm constantly inspired by the way that he shows up for our son and for our relationship and our marriage. So I'm just constantly inspired by him, I think. And that also helps navigating parenthood.
Oh, I love that so much.
If you had this is a trippy question, but if you had a time machine and your son was twenty one tomorrow and he wanted to be on the next season of Dancing with the Stars, who would you partner him with?
We can't be you.
Oh, she comes up with such good questions.
I would say Daniella. She is an absolute force to be reckoned with. She is just a powerhouse, and I think she is super creative. I know that she is a good teacher, and I think that sometimes the biggest battle on our show is being a good teacher. You can be an incredible dancer. Oh yeah, yeah, but you need to know how to gameplay when ABC doesn't work. You need to know how to come up with a new option, and you don't need to know how to dissect dance and teach it to somebody that has no idea what they're doing. And she is that, So I would I would say Daniella Oh.
I love that. I love it. Who would you partner me with if I ever did it? Vow val Oh, I can't. There we go I get helping me.
He is the best teach, teacher, teammate, coach. He's amazing.
I never say never, never say never, you know, I mean, I mean, come up, we're ABC family. Like, I love that.
I'm gonna if I can, and this is this is a hope, if I can. With schedules and everything else, I am dying to get there for one of the last She wants.
To see it.
I know I really wanted to, and it didn't work out timing wise because I'd just been in LA and I couldn't like turn it around and bring them back again this last time, this last season. But I'm I and I told Julianne, I'm like, I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make it there. I'm going to be in that ballroom. I really am.
It's it's a different it's so so magical seeing the sets.
Oh, it's gorgeous, and you all do an incredible job also on your socials, Like I love getting the peak behind the you know, behind the curtain. Do you have any like pre show things that you do, like charity superstitions.
Do you have like any of that kind of question?
Yes, I do. I this is so weird, but I always have to put my right shoe, my right ballroom shoe on before my left. It's just like the thing that I've heard the show and like even when the dressers are doing a quick change with me, I'm like, no, it has to be the right shoe first. So that's something that's just a weird one. But for me, I love to stay in my zone. So as much as I love to cheer on other people and like watch, I know that it's not going to be good for my focus. So I kind of venture off with my partner and I want us to like stay in the zone. So we always do a warm up together. I'm really big about planks. I think that they're so good to do.
Oh my gosh's my worst nightmare. My mother can do a five minute plank. Wow, hurt me?
That's amazing. Well, yeah, I usually try to do like a two to three minute plank with my partner. So we'll do that, we'll go through the dance a little bit, and then as soon as we're going like back backstage, say we're next up. I always take a second by myself to like call my breathing, I say a prayer and then positive affirmations. I read this thing that nerves either can be negative or positive, just in whatever you tell yourself. So instead of being like, I'm so scared, I'm so nervous that we're not going to do like you know, putting it in that, I always am like, I am so excited. I have the excited I'm so I know that I'm prepared, I know that I've done all of that I can and I'm just going to go dance now. So I think like the mindset that you have yourself in also helps.
I think that what you just said is so powerful, for.
I feel exactly the same way your little guy is too little to do this with.
But I have people that don't feel so.
Little anymore, and they have started entering into worlds that can feel like scary, like I have to do something, I have to be something that's maybe bigger or I haven't developed the courage for yet, And I say exactly the same thing.
Because it is it feels so true. Is that is.
That that feeling you really can choose how you program it is you're going to program as it? Are you going to program it as excitement or will you categorize it as fear? And and the fear kind of makes you go back on your heels, and the and the and the excitement gets you on your toes. And it's like, are you more nimble? Where are you more ready for flexibility? Where you more ready to receive? It's in being excited, it's not in being scared. And I think that's incredible, incredible nerves.
I mean we should all have them. That's great. I mean again, that means that you care, But it's just really how you decipher, like am I going to take this in the nervous route and doubt myself and question things? And that's when you start making mistakes. I feel whenever I'm on thinks for that always is what happens. So I always try to put be like, oh, I'm so excited, so scared, but very excited to go show up and go do what we've been practicing. Like it's it's awesome. So yeah, that's kind of my little ritual.
I love that and hope for the best.
Yes, yeah, go out there.
Would you like to be a judge? One season? Instead of an answer, Oh.
You know, for me, I still I would love that. But I always have wanted to be a performer. So I'm going to try to drag out this day as long as as long as my body can ye and then then I can see myself as like a judge. But for me, I just I have so many goals and dreams that I would love to do still in this space, I would really love to do Broadway one day.
So you're like, well, I love to like You're an incredible actress too.
You're the whole package, so like I can see that for you, like I would cast you in two seconds and all of the things.
Thank you. But yeah, I still just feel like such a performer that I don't feel that like authority of sitting. I feel like I would have a hard time sitting. Honestly, I would be like, oh, out there, I want to do this.
Yeah, you'd have fomo for the dance floor.
Yes, but I love giving feedback again that like teacher inside of me. Yea, I love that. But for right now, I just I would love to be a performer.
Well, we we all love watching you perform.
Thank you.
When do you start the new season?
Well, the season starts September. Usually I technically haven't been picked up yet, none of us have. We usually don't find out if we're back on the season until until like end of August September. So fingers crossed.
That's happens with Yeah, that's the way we're all. Yeah, yeah with teep shows. Got a wait for that pickup too, personally.
But yeah, that's when it starts. Is it will be back this fall. They just announced season thirty four, So exciting, so crazy, thirty four seasons.
That's more than Gray's Anatomy.
Well is also special because they're celebrating twenty years on air. Oh what twenty year anniversary this year? So wild?
I see you adding your third Mira ball to that ledge.
I love a little manifestation.
Yeah, I see it for you. It's already done. That's our manifesting trick. It's already been done. It's thirty yours. You already have a third one.
So we're excited to watch you win next season exactly, and I will be there, Camilla, will you come with me?
Will be my day o? God you kidding?
Yes?
Me and the girls, so we'll bring our daughters. Yeah, let's bring the girls. Okay, we'll be in there.
You should come on like a Disney night or something too.
That's also, Oh, don't say Disney. Don't say Disney twice to this one.
You don't understand. Jenna, you said the imagine and Neil Patrick Harris.
I've never seen two people more excited to be at Disneyland.
I love it.
I love it. Jenna, thank you so much for joining us.
Will you come back on when the season starts and you're deep in it and we can pick your brain on how it's going.
Yes, it'll be so. It'll be so fun to see who I'm partnered with and we can chat all the way. Yes.
Wait, I have one more question, because I think you're very wide. I don't ask everybody this, but I think you have some real wisdom in there. Here's my question for you. What would you if you could talk about time machine, go back in time? What would you tell your seventeen year old self? What had you not learned yet that you that you value so breaking now?
I think my worth and not having this having this anxiety of having to be somebody else, to be somewhere or to make it somewhere. And I actually shortly after I was seventeen joined the show, and when I did, I was just constantly trying to be somebody else because I looked up to them. They were all pros. I was on troop. So yeah, I think that until I learned to really value all that I had to give, that's when I started to really make a difference and make an impact, and that's when I really started to shine. So I think that if I were to go back to my seventeen year old self, I would just tell her to trust herself and to not forget why she's special.
Yeah. I love that you just said, like, not forget that she's special, because I think that as women, we do this thing where we sort of like we can say that we're great, but like then we'd sort of, like, you know, want to underplay it.
There's a lot of pressure that we have, I think as women obviously and in the society right now. Like for me, comparison is the thief of joy.
It just is are you in my head?
I've always that's been one of my favorite quotes, and I just I really think it's so true. And when we live in a world where we're just constantly scrolling and seeing how gorgeous and how amazing and how yeah you neque these other women are instead of being like oh, tearing ourselves down because of it, we can celebrate that first of all, others accomplishments, others beauty, but we cannot forget in the gate why we are so magnificent and special and beautiful that we have to offer so.
Oh my god, what a way to end. I love that. Oh, I love it so much.
I know and I think that it's also it's like it's the acknowledging of the human feeling, like the neurobiological need to envy or cove it or be jealous or think like I want that other thing. Like that's normal. You're not doing anything wrong. You're not a bad person for that while you're scrolling. It's then what you do with the thought, like do you then make it a negative have it? Let it have a negative impact on yourself, like I'm not enough. Do you let it make a negative impact on someone else by tearing them down? Or do you just see the thought, see the judgment, see the whatever it is that monkey mind's in your head and then go like yeah, okay, thank you for your service, and like no, thank you I think that person's gorgeous or right, that she so hard or she has that natural shine. I don't know, but it's like it's it's really human to have all those feelings. And I think that you know what you just said is true.
It's what you do with.
Them, completely agree.
Thank you so much for coming on, so much for coming and call it what.
It is. So nice to meet you.
It will be the first of many, hopefully.
Yes, okay, so come back and talk to us when the season starts and when you're on your journey to winning again.
Yes, I love it.
We'll see you in the audience to go all right, thank you bye. I feel like I just want to be friends with her.
I know I need you guys to never meet because I think you could be best friends.
And that's not going to work for me. I'm not down with a third. But I will sit in the audience with you.
You said Disney Night, and I'm like, already there, my Mickey mouse or are you kidding?
Yeah?
Yeah, you make you where the ears all wear the hands. We'll sit in the front row. I'm going to be there. You're going to be there, and it's going to be magical and special. I can't wait until they announced the contestants. And we will be sitting front row for ABC's thirty fourth season of Dancing with the Stars and they will be celebrating their twentieth year on air.
God, I hope it's Jason Kelce. When she's said that name, I was like, oh my, she said football star.
Well she's a football star, but could have been anyone. But when she said Jason Kelce, I was like beyond yeah.
And I was I tried to say, but I didn't get it out. I was at the ABC upfronts and I actually saw Bruno in person and Alfonso and I had to like not nerd out.
And go up to them.
And then I saw Jason Kelce from across the room because it was also ESPN we were doing their upfronts and he was there.
There were so many athletes. How tall is he?
I don't know, because he was he was far across the room. I couldn't tell from that perspective.
But make a bee line else b line.
No, it was wonderful to be with her, and I'm super excited for the new the new season.
Yeah, she's super talented.
I I really did love her being like I'm special because I think that as women, we learned to like not say those adjectives about ourselves and describe ourselves that way. And I'm like, yes you are, Yeah, you should be saying that about yourself.
I know the whole thing. They're just like family over yea.
All right, Okay, well let's call it the end of the episode.
