Call It What It IsHappy Wives Happy Life! Camilla catches up with her TV husband’s real life wife Erin Slaver.
Hear what Camilla really thought about Chris Carmack before they worked together, and how she ‘linked’ up with the family during Covid.
Plus, what REALLY went through Erin’s head when she saw her hubby marrying another woman on Grey’s!
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington, an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, Call It crew, and welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is.
Today is actually really special because Jessica Capshaw is in Nashville right now and she is filming nine to one one and I needed a guest host, so I brought on someone that someone call a violin virtuoso, a social media queen, but I like to call her my sister wife because she's married to mister Chris Carmack or somebody called Carmack.
I don't know. Aaron Slaver, Welcome to Call It What It Is.
What an introduction, so much more than I could list, like extraordinary, there's so many things.
I'm so excited to have you on. Thank you for having me on.
I'm such an honor and guest host with me and all the listeners are really excited, and there's so much I want to get into because I feel like so many people know you from your social media.
And it's as soon as I told iHeart that I was like, I want Aaron on. They're like, oh my god, she's so funny, and.
I was like, we'll get into that, but there's so much more that I want to talk about so that listeners can get to know you. Okay, so let's just are you ready to jump in? Yes, yes, absolutely, Okay. So the crew wanted to know the first time that we met, and I said, I it's all a blur for me, especially pre pandemic. Yeah, I'm sure so we but you said that we met for the first time at a cast party for our showrunner's wedding celebrations.
Yes. Yeah, And like for me, it was a huge deal. Here I am meeting these people I had watched on my TV set. Did you watch Chris before it started? Okay, okay, before he got on your face your character. I mean it was crazy. Oh and by the way, I always thought like you were so gorgeous on TV. I don't really always the whole glam team, Aaron.
You've seen me without makeup, like in the middle of the pandemic having a nervous break down.
Now you're still so gorgeous. You really are. But and and what is crazy is when Chris started the show, it was like to Patty, can't be with that joke character, Like, I love you, she's so cute and you would be so cute. I honestly thought that you were rooting for them as a couple. I like secretly was, oh my god, I love it. We haven't talked about this, right, okay, because you know, you had your husband and he had Amelia, and you know, things were set, things were set on the show. But yeah, yeah, so I met you at this party and memorable night for me. I met a bunch of the cast cairst time and Chris had just started the show. Was you know, is he making a good impression? Yeah? And I remember you guys were so sweet, big smile and you were like yes, so yeah, you guys were super welcoming, even to a wife of a regular. By the way, I feel like.
The partners are like more important than the cast because behind the scenes when we're having late nights, you guys are holding down the ship.
Yeah, I know. And you guys, it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. Job. No, you do an amazing job.
I know because I'm sat next to Chris for you know, like midnight, and I know that they're.
Like texting him like the baby's sick, what are you getting home? What are you listens? Our kids are always sick. I know, it's tough, right, That's the truth.
Like oftentimes Chris and I share on set, I'm like, what happened with you this week?
And He's like, well, we've got.
Salmonella and this virus and that, and it's almost like I'm like, well, I've got those two in these two right right.
It's and then and then he'll that's the week where he's working till. Yes, that'll be the one high hundred percent when you were calling. Honestly, I feel like we should just bring them to set. We have so many doctors on set, you guys take care of her. Yeah, we should have them. We should have them all the filming. I wish.
Okay, So that was the first time that we met. And then people might not know this, but.
We partnered up.
You were our family, our COVID family, that's right, and then bubled. We bubbled together. Yeah, did you bubble with anybody else? I didn't bubble with anyone else. There was no other family.
I mean, we had we had a set of neighbors that didn't have children that we would do like parking lot wine nights with. And that was parking lot wine Nights. Remember, it was so weird. Yeah, but you were the only family that week. Yes, and I think it's because Chris and I were testing for Grace.
We probably safe enough. But Aaron and Chris's kids, well it was just Kai at the time. We're the only kids, and I was pregnant with Lucas, so.
You had just we were like, remember we were the first people to meet.
You were the first people to meet my baby. I can you believe that over families like.
Six months I think around or when by that time, Yes, yeah, came by that time.
Yes, they were the very first people to meet the baby, over literally anybody. And but so I had Lucas and then we were and then the girls played together and it was such a relief because Hayden had not seen another kid. Yeah, same, and so it was like so amazing to like have you guys come over or come over to you and just like swim and be like, oh my god, I can actually touch another human being.
Yeah, it gave them like a sense of normalcy. Yeah, we were all severely lacking.
We were trying to make it during the time, but I feel like we did a good job of like kind of in the pandemic making it work.
Together as best we could. We had to be really careful. Yeah, and I mean I look back and it felt like an eternity. Was it like nine months before we got the vaccine and everyone started, yes, sort of going out again. Yeah, but it Yeah, it felt a lot longer. It did. Yeah, we did park bates at Lacy we did.
Yeah, we did parked at parks and then we did we did super Bowl.
At our place. Yeah, you were the super Bowl party. I remember we baked cookies.
Yeah.
Yeah, Thanksgiving, get Thanksgiving. This is good times. It was, and it's like it but those memories are like all a blurb. But it really did feel like almost a two year period.
Yeah, even though it was and it felt like a two year period that we were hunkering down together. So people don't know that we we rode the pandemic together, Me and Aaron, Yeah, these together.
Yeah, we really got to know each other's families. And that was before you and Chris were linked up. Yeah on the show.
Yeah, in a way, I've thought about this because I felt like that history between Joe and Link on the show. I think what really helped, like that friendship history was actually sort of that time because we all got to know each other so well in a way that I wouldn't have probably gotten too before. Yeah, and or without it, And so I think it added a layer into like the Joe and link of it all because.
We I don't know, it's like we really hunkered down. We all went through something. The getod acting right there. We have a trauma bond. Trauma bond.
Yeah, Okay, So let's go back a little bit because people might not know that you are incredible, an incredible musician.
And I was reading the notes and I feel like an idiot asking this.
So it's in my notes about you it says that you started the classical violin at age three and then later focused on the fiddle.
And I was like, what's the difference? Oh, yeah, no, that's don't that's not stupid at all. What is that many people ask this, It's really it's really a style. Just stylistically is it the same, Like it's the same instrument, it's the same instrument. It's the way a musician processes the music. I'd say would differentiate between fiddler or violinist. Like classical violinists, we're taught to learn the music, we're interpreting music. Someone else wrote like hundreds of years ago, interpreting it to be perfect. You want it to just, you know, sound beautiful. You're focusing on your tone, you're focusing on your technique and of course the musicality of it. You want to express it, but you're still trying to be true to this other composer's vision. And then you get into fiddle music and suddenly you're really just you're sort of like a jazz musician. You're listening to chords and chord changes and you're playing over them, so you're kind of I mean, great fiddlers are just improvising as they go. They have licks that they keep up their sleeve that they can play. And I mean, like, I don't think I'm not that level of fiddler because I trained classically. So it's really hard to get out of your head. When you train classically, you're like, must play the right notes all the time. You're like this little violin robot ed. So when they say just play, you're like just play? What?
No?
But I.
I mean I love the freeness of playing, you know, any kind of music, fiddle, rock, folk, whatever, you know, like getting to write your own parts or play your own solos. So that's what you know. After college, I really wanted to, uh, you know, get into that side of music, not just the classical aspect of it.
So yeah, so a fiddler, okay, so the same It is the same instrument technically, the same instrument, yes, because I was like, oh my god, there's an instrument called the fiddle, and this whole time I thought it.
Was the violin. Okay, So right, it's not so stupid. No, No, like a like a violin, like a classical violinist will probably play on a hundred K instrument, I mean, very expensive instruments, and a fiddler would not care as much because you're just it's more of a workhorse in a band. A fiddle. You know, you're playing your solos, you're filling up space, You're you're creating a pad underneath whatever the singer is doing or whoever is soloing at the time, Whereas the violin you're soloing or you're playing in an orchestra. So okay, it's okay what you're using it for. I hear you. Okay, So now I have a question.
You have been a backup violinist and singer or some major major artists, and I'm a list a few, Rod Stewart, Rascal Flats, My Tina McBride, Sugar Lynn, Keith, open, Amy Grant, so many. Okay, So when you were back up, were you playing the fiddle?
You know what? On some of those I was on some I was playing more of a violin style like Rod Stewart, he would I, I cannot believe that you played Okay. Well, I didn't tour with him, so it's different. You know, some people I toured with and some people I played back up for when they came to Nashville. So, like Rod Stewart came to Nashville, I was contracted to play. He had I don't know, like ten violinists come out on stage and we played a couple of different songs. He needed violin in the background for okay, so that would be more like a classical style. This is what I hope to do. When I went to Nashville, I thought, hopefully I can bridge this place where you can be a violinist. I can read music, I have good technique, and then also I can transition and do a more fiddle style playing, you know. And so if someone like Trace Akins or Martina McBride or something. It was more of a fiddle fiddle style that I was playing, So yeah, it depended on the gig it was. I was basically freelancing and just okay whatever. You know. This is so wild to me. So as an actor, that's like, as an actor.
Everyone knows that you sort of like land in Hollywood, you most likely don't know anybody, and then you're sort of auditioning if you're a musician because you're originally from New York. Yeah, yeah, you're from New York, right, Okay, so originally from New York.
You moved to Nashville.
And then what are you just like arriving with your violin and like, how does that work? How does because I know the process on our side, but how does that work for a musician like arriving in Nashville trying to get work.
I think it's so similar what the lives we lived. Like I I picked up and moved from New York. I had my fingers crossed something was going to happen. I rented an apartment for six months, and we were like if nothing happens, I go back home or whatever I go. You have to like wait tables or to have like I did. I was a hostess. Yeah, at a restaurant called Sambuca. To tell you to tell Jessica okay, I wrote, am I have closed actually and it was you know, they had like live dinner music. But I was a hostess. I lived walking distance, so I okay, So you arrive and you're doing like the hostess. Yeah, first thing I did. I got a jot and I think though I did get really lucky. Within two weeks, I met someone who booked me for the CMA Awards, which which is like the Grammys of Nashville. So I know, yea, within two weeks yeah, I mean I met the right person. I knew a few people. I knew a few contacts in the music industry. And I happen to be backstage at the Grand Old Opry and I met the bass player who's still there. I think he's the like MD now and he's like, oh, you got to email my wife. She'll give you a job. It's like, okay, so I email. People are very nice in Nashville. They're very friendly. They take you for your word. If you say I'm a fiddler and I can sing, they will hire you. And they'll say okay, fiddle and sing and like you will get hired and sort of they will. They'll test you out and if they like you, then you keep getting work. So I was very fortunate I got hired for that, and that's when I played for Rascal Flats at the CMA Awards.
And.
That was your first gig in Nashville. In Nashville, it was no. My friends at home were like, what is happening? Because I you know, I had like ten seconds, no, not even ten two seconds of airtime where you could see my face.
But that's that's That's like those dreamy stories that I hear as an actor where you land and someone discovers you. It's almost like, I know, maybe you wouldn't call it being just discovered technically because you're like networking, but that early and that to be your first gig is insane.
Well yeah, no, I was. I felt very fortunate and everyone was like, how did you do that? But I really did get lucky, and you know, that opportunity opened up a whole new network of people and like that's how I ended up working background on Nashville the show.
Okay, so before we get to background on Nashville, people want to know who your favorite singer, whoever band was to play for.
Oh, such, well, I gotta say Carolyn don Johnson, even though maybe not everyone would know who she is. But she had a big hit in the nineties. Okay, when I before, I was working a whole lot. I saw her singing at the Bluebird Cafe, which is like this renowned songwriter's venue. It's very small, intimate like this, and everyone sings the songs they wrote. And so Carolyn had had a hit in the nineties. She's from Canada, and I turned to my friend, that song was amazing. Yeah, and then I think, like a year later I was playing for Carolyn and my god, that is weird.
But yeah, I understand how that would feel, even though it's not as big a name as some of these other names.
I feel like a full circle. It really did. Yeah, it was so cool and I mean, and then you know, we opened up for the Eagles in Oh my band I played for later on, and I guess I didn't technically play for the Eagles, but that was my favorite thing to do ever. Because we were touring with the Eagles, we would watch their show afterwards. It was I mean, that was a dream come true. So that's wild.
That is incredible. Okay, so then how do you land Nashville?
Yeah, that was going back to that first gig I had. I met some contractors in Nashville and a gentleman who worked with the opry The Opry House is like a powerhouse in Nashville of music, and uh, yeah, I got a call. I think it was the night before they were starting filming the pilot. And this is Chris wasn't even on the show yet, and he's so, you were on the show before Christmas. Technically I want oh my god, I passmates, I'm calling you out. I do at home all the time. Oh my god, you're just following my hotel. Just remember I was on But yeah, they were like, can you be at the Opry House tomorrow? What is he either filming this pilot? It's it's it. They think it's going to go. They need a background singer for Connie Britton, and you know she's from Friday Night Lights. She was and she was a huge star to be there in Nashville. Everyone was flipping out that they had Connie and that was why a big reason they thought it was going to go. You know, Connie braven is first star, and do.
You remember hearing about the pilot and thinking, oh, it's definitely gonna go.
Yeah. Yeah, it was was such a cool experience, and she was playing like a faith Hill sort of character, and yeah, so I was like, sure, I'll be there, and I was her background singer in the band and was amazing. Like Callie Corey, the creator of that show and her husband t Bone has you know, renowned producer, they really were adamant about like hiring real musicians and real people who lived and worked in Nashville to be in the show and play the roles that they were supposed to play. So they had, you know, they had real guitar players, just like you have real doctors on set. Yeah, they had real guitar players making sure everyone was doing the fingering right and the playing right. And the entire band that they would hire for every scene was always real session players or touring musicians. So I met a ton of people like back doing background with me who have gone on to you know, play for Kelly Clarkson and and.
So then where you hired for every episode, like every episode they needed someone where you consistently and it was for a.
While, Yeah, they started changing things up. I think it's probably maybe second season. And that was partially because they they couldn't, you know, give us any kind of retainer, like can you be here. So people would get jobs and we'd be touring, we'd be doing other.
Tours or whatever, and they have to bring someone else and then they can bring you back. So okay, so this is where you met. We had a lot of questions about this. This is where you met Chris Carmack for the first time. Do you remember seeing Chris for the first time.
I do. Did you think that, Do you think, okay, we need to tell that story.
Yeah? Did you think, oh my god, he's so hot? Or were you like, I roll another actor?
You know what? His reputation preceded him. I was really good friends with Sam, his his co actor, the guy who played Gunner I played. I played in Sam's band, and Sam had told me all about him. He was like, Oh, this new guy is here. He works out all the time. He's telling me about how he's in the gym with him, he's super ripped. Can he tell me he was on OC? Yeah? So I I guess I just had this assumption he was going to be so arrogant. Yeah. I don't know why, just you know, a buff guy who had been on the se you make.
First off, he played Luke on the OC. Yeah, and Luke was a dick.
Yeah, yeah he was. It's like he's known as the bad boy. Then he's like, there's a new guy, Kennedy. He's in the gym all the time. I'm like, yeah, yeah, right. I was like, oh, this guy's gonna be yes. And so when I met him, it was iron like, oh great, this guy hi. And I know I couldn't have been more wrong, because I'm sure, as you you know Chris, he's he's such a gentleman, very humble. Ye. Nothing, he doesn't look his personality and the way he looks, don't Matt, don't go they thank God.
I mean I have to say that I think that because of social media, fans have gotten to know at this point that he's not like the Abercrombie.
You know, he's not Luke, right, He's he's now an actor. Yeah. I don't know if you know this, but I know Chris de side of the story of you. Oh what is it?
Yeah?
Remember no, no, no, no.
He remembers that it was so sweet because I think this is like way way way back when, and we were talking about how we you know, met our partners, and I was talking about like, you know, waiting titles with Matt, and I thought Matt was like, really boring.
I've talked about this before. I thought he was so boring. I was like, he doesn't talk.
It's more best if we were like on the same shift together.
I was disappointed.
Really, yes, that is so fun and obviously things changed people. But so when I asked Chris about you, he had the sweetest story. This is exactly what I would want to hear if I was like you. And it basically was that he saw you and then you were obviously beautiful, and then he realized how talented you were and he was just like really taken by you and your He he said that just basically like your personality was just so bright and you were so shimmery and shiny basically, and it was.
Like such a cute story. And here I am being like, well, I thought my hansband was so boring. Ask him what he thinks about me? Now? No, no, of course it's all shiny is not very.
Like children, and the shiny can be really hard.
Having that like mystic attitude all the time.
Okay, so then you learned that he was like not douchebag, right, Yes, I spent some time hanging out with him. Yeah, what's interesting is sort of like Joe and Link.
We were just friends for a while, yes, and then he dated several girls that I would always get along with because I would get invited to hang.
Out with this group of So you were kind of watching him go through cycle through something else.
Oh yeah, and I thought I was not his type. Okay, I was like Chris carmag and I are never going to happen. Not that I was feel like he was your type.
Like had you dated guys before though, was you know, like that looked like him or was like him?
No, he's not your type. I think I always went for like small artistic music guys, you know, very you know, tortured artist, yea, tortured artists. Tortured artist. Yeah, Chris is not. He doesn't give tortured artists does. He might be one, but he doesn't give it. He doesn't give it.
Yes, I could see that he could. Yeah, he mind me a little bit, but no, he's not. It's not like you know. Yeah, so yeah, I know. I So you did not feel like you were his type. He was technically not your type, but were as he was like dating out the girls, were you developing feelings?
Well, this is an interesting story and I made sure it was okay. I told it, okay, I love it. Exclusive. We were We were just friends for probably about a year and he texted like the group chat even back then, and he said, hey, guys, my girlfriend can't come to this comedy show. I got tickets for a while ago, and he seemed kind of pissed. Yeah, okay, and he was like, is anybody free tonight to come? And I don't know. I was feeling outgoing, I was feeling extroverted, and I was like, yeah, i'll come, and.
Okay, when you be honest, when you were like yeah, i'll come, was there a party part of you that was like i'll come.
You know. I don't know. I don't think so. I just wanted to get to know him. I think I had seen him perform as well recently. I had seen him perform and I was super impressed. I was like, this guy's a great musician. So yeah, I had like a lot of respect for Chris and I loved their friend group. I loved, you know, hanging out with all of them, and I thought, oh, this is the opportunity to like, yeah, see yeah he hang out and no, we were all talking about hanging out as a group later, so I thought, oh, I'll go to the show. I don't have anything to do so anyway, So yeah, I don't know what he was expecting when I when I answered the text. But but we went together and it, I mean, it'd be lying if I didn't say it felt like we were on a date all of a sudden, because Chris is such a gentleman, you know, like he's gonna open the door for you, and he's gonna pull out the chair for you, and he's gonna pay, and he's gonna be like he really treats you so well. And I think that's just how he was raised to treat women very respectfully and he does that to everyone. And but we had a great time. Uh you know, we ended up paying. Feel like he does have all those things.
Yeah, but I'm assuming that there was that that's you know, his like gentleman thisess.
I'm assuming that there was also that like chemistry. Yeah, I think there was to make it feel like a date. There was deff. I think there was chemistry. I asked him, and I think he said that he felt there was a little chemistry. I'm assuming.
Yeah, who made the first move, first kiss move?
That that was Chris? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he invited me over to that Like a couple of months go by and we had this like faux date.
Was it clear that at that point it was a date because your guys are friend and so, like, was.
It liked it? How did it? What made it different than just be like, hey you want to go grab something? Like was it obvious like hey do you want to?
Oh?
You mean that when he made the move? Yes, yes, because he specifically texted me, can you come over and hang out? Like he never would just specifically text me, you know, he would maybe text the group chat or or there would be an event we're all going to moved off the group chat.
Yes.
Yeah, I got a personal text from him, And I think I was about to go out on tour for like three weeks and I couldn't even the first time he texted me personally, And I love this. This is weird, Like, you know, Karmak never just texts me. Yeah, And so I couldn't come, and then I love, Actually, I really love this part of the story where you're like, I just don't. I'm on tour, I can't. Yeah, I was like not going to be there in town. And then I got back in town and I don't know how he reconnected or I texted him or whatever, but then he invited me again to It was Memorial Day and he invited me. His best friend was there with his girlfriend and it was just Chris and me, and then later that night he made a move and from then.
On were you guys together. Did you ever do like the make up breakup situation a lot of people will do before.
They get married. Yeah, No, we never had an official break We went through a little rough patch. We always worked through it, and I.
Think it's all working through it obviously that makes for a successful relationship.
Yes, oh, one hundred. Yeah. I mean it's a little different once you have kids and you're married and you have a rough patch, you're like, Okay, well I don't think anyone's going anywhere because we had a little fight. But yeah, when you're just dating, it's a little scarier. It is scarier.
Yeah, so we'd like to go through that and to stick with it together, I think says a lot.
Yeah. Yeah, even back then he was committed to trying. You know, I think we even talked to a therapist of your time.
You're talking about this because we talk a lot of times about therapy and it's so nice and relatable to hear, like, hey, we got couple therapy even early on in dating to work through some stuff.
Yeah, it's it was amazingly helpful. I mean even to take a step back and look at myself and the way I grew up and like the my tendencies that I didn't realize I had. You know, it's it's so helpful. So I wish we should do more of it. I think everyone should do it.
I mean, Matt was on here and we were talking about couple Star because we haven't done it, and we're joking about how we we probably do need it because everyone should.
Have it've done it? Ever? No? Oh really no, but we do.
We've said this on the podcast. We use it as a threat sometimes like, oh, really, guess what steps a couple therapy?
Oh, And it's like every time it is a threat because really, every time we fight, I'm like, we need to call the therapist. Yeah, get Barbara on the phone for emergency zoom exactly.
So we have a lot of people. It's summertime. People are planning weddings. I just got married. I've seen the pictures. Beautiful wedding.
Thank you.
What is one piece of advice you would give two brides for the day, Because I what I have said before, My answer has always been that I limited the time.
It took to take pictures. I gave like a hard out. Is there something that you if you could go back and change that you would change? Well, I mean this is sort of the opposite answer is that I we did one of those like all inclusive wedding places. Okay, I mean I cannot recommend that enough. Well, I love it because tell me why they do it all for you? It is such a stress free day. You just get to show up and be the star of your show. I mean you do they do like the flowers and everything. Yes, they do the flowers, They do the food, the catering, the decorations on the table, they do the photo. Well, no, you get your own photographer. But then they coordinate with them. They sort of have vendors that they use. Yes, and so you you have to pick a few, but for the most part, they have the catering down, they have the the florists, all the decorations, the lighting, the I mean just almost everything they think of for you, the transport, the Did you feel relaxed on the day that knowing it was all taken care of? I feel like I did. I did. That's amazing, it was really nice. Yeah. I cannot recommend something like that enough. But yeah, I also wish we had made more time for family, because I mean, I had cousins and relatives and people who like have passed away since our wedding that you know, they traveled and you get to see them for ten minutes and then you can talk to other people. Have so many peopeople there, and I don't know, I don't know what the solution is for that, but I wish there had been a way to really, you know, have quality time with all of your guests.
But it's so hard because did you feel like you had quality time with Chris? Because Matt and I literally were talking about this with a couple of the other day. They're about to get married, and we felt like we didn't see each other much. Yeah, in the wedding I mean we were trying to sort of host, right, we also had and so she was two, and so we were like Matt had to write yes too, and so I don't know if you had to do this, but we'd like.
We had to go, one of us had to go put her down to bet. Oh wow. Yeah, well we had my we had both of our parents sets of parents there who were designated, and we also had we had like a babysitter come and take care of all the young kids, so they were all together. So wait, that's a great idea. Yeah, that's a good if you have kids. Yeah, get coming to the wedding. Gets to hire someone, hire someone absolutely. Oh you see the baby. Yes, yeah, we had little kids area like tucked away and they all went and the kids table and they had their like chicken fingers and their coloring books.
And wait, this is an amazing I have never a thought of this or heard of this.
Oh yeah, see.
I would take it a step further and just make like a jail, did I mean, like where they just literally can't come out, Like do you just throw a chicken finger in and.
Then you walk away, lock them up and then when you're done, Mommy's got to Espresso Martina during the baby finger. This is amazing.
I love Okay, that's amazing. Okay, So you guys got married in twenty eighteen. Yeah, and then that was the same year if he got graced onto.
Me, yes, yeah, I don't know. If you use that, he would come back like every weekend. Yes, I do remember a lot of caramel back and forth.
And then how did you feel about having to move a young family to Los Angeles?
Sounds tough. That was tough moving, you know, especially going from a place where the cost of living is lower, and you had community complain about that a lot.
No, I know community and community because we have a lot of people writing and talking about how with this All the time you have people saying, I just moved to a new town.
I have no idea how to make friends, Like it's very hard. That's so hard. Yeah, I mean I still have made very, very few friends. But partially, I mean I'm so busy that I know, I feel bad I can't commit to when when you know people do reach out to try to make a relationship, I'm limited in the time I have. I think that's very something, very a lot.
It is also I feel like there's a lot of times where truthfully, I want to like when Matt comes home, I want to spend time with him, right, instead of just bounce all the time. Hm.
And so it's really careful.
It's a really hard balance of like putting in an effort with your friends, your family, your kids, or you know, all of it.
It's yeah, it's hard. Yeah. Yeah. And and to your point, you know, before I had kids, when I was in my early twenties and whatever, and I was having fun in Nashville making all my friends. It's like they're all still there in Nashville, yeah, or my old friends from high school or New York or East Coast, and so yeah, when once you move from a place you've spent you know, your young adulthood. Yeah, and you moved to a completely different city, people sort of already are in their grooves too. They have their friends, they have their families, and you know, I do find that like when Kai started kindergarten, we were in the Lacannyata area, and that's that's a great time to make a lot of.
That's how friends, right, that's how I felt like I met mommy friends. I feel like once Hayden Star School.
I was so confused.
A lot of my friends did not have kids yet, and so I was so confused, like.
Where do I find moms? It's hard in a big city like Los Angeles. It's just not like, I mean, you grew up in a different country, but I grew up in a small town in upstate New York, and it was just hardly anyone left, hardly anyone came. It was the same people our whole lives. And I mean, in a way that's kind of nice.
Do you feel like you would ever want your family to move back to where you grew up if you could move anywhere with them, like sometimes would you would you go to Nashville or would you take them back home to New York.
I think there's a lot of advantages to being in this more metropolitan area Los Angeles, Nashville that I totally missed out on. And even though I loved my childhood, I loved my you know, teenage years, I do I wish I had been a little more exposed to you know, the culture and and just everything of that. I sort of had a rude awakening when I got to college. Yeah, So yeah, No, I think I think Nashville or I mean, I'm really happy where we are now, Like outside of Pasadena, It's it's so sweet there. It's very neighborhoodie. But you know we're it could be downtown LA in thirty minutes. Yeah, it's true. No, no, no.
I I do think it's advantages to living in Los Angeles. I do think as a new mommy having moved to the area, it's it's a tough it is a tough city, and it's that's a really relatable thing I think for a lot of a lot of people. Yeah, okay, let's get into.
Okay, your wedding.
I do have a question about your wedding because Link and Joe just got married on Grace Now. Oh yes, and he's song he's they had him sing his wedding vows.
Oh yeah.
If Chris had reached for his guitar and started saying to you.
His vows, would you have been like, are you kidding me? The guitar dome? Okay, have three otions? Are you would like this is a fine line, this is about you or me? Would you have been like, you know what, let's.
Have a battle and pick up your violin and be like it's on. Or would you just like melted and loved it because I feel like this has been a little polarizing. Some fans have been like this is too much or she yeah, and now the.
Fans are like, of course they love it. I when when he told me, I mean, obviously I knew like he was working on the song NonStop when he was helping write it, so I knew it was this was happening. And I was kind of like, oh, is Camilla gonna like that? I mean to stare at you while young? Was she gonna hate this girl? After three hours? We just used air plugs. Yeah, I just I put my own pods in. I listened to a little you know lady God. Yeah, yeah, I don't blame you. I kidding, Chris. I loved it. I was in it every time. I know, but I have to say when I watched it, I was crying too. You got it. You did such an amazing job not making it feel ick. I thought he sold it really well. He did. He did, and that's that's hard to sell you.
No, it's it's not easy. It's a fine line. It could have been super cringey. I was felt very heartful, but I know it was would you for.
Your own wedding, would you for just a song? Free? Yeah? I mean I think so. Look if he had done it, I think it would be something I'd look back and say, what a romantic gesture like it would be fairytale level story. But in the moment, I mean, I was picturing myself and picturing you being me, like, what is Camila gonna think this guy for real?
Or I'm not sure the wedding would have happened if Chris's song the lyrics, we don't. I don't know if Aaron would have you know, been on the horse riding away.
But no, I you know, for our engagement, though he did, he didn't play, but he hired. This is very romantic of him for when he asked, guy, ton't know this story? Ok, guy, this is a good story. He rented out the rooftop of this hotel in New York that that I loved. It's like no longer in existence. It was called the Nomad Hotel. Okay, thought we were going to visit a friend and he hits the up button and that's where I knew something's happening here.
And did you think engagement or did your mind kind of god feeling had a feeling my nails done?
Yes, who was on tour with me to convince me to get my nails done? Yeah, so smart, good job. He did really good and he had her come even to take pictures. And so then we get to the top, the elevator opens and he hired a jazz quartet to play music for us, which was really cool because it was songs that we had been playing together violin and guitar. So it was like all very thoughtful, and he had champagne and then yeah, he got down on his knee and he had the ring and I was really impressed. Beyond this is like this is like Sleepless in Seattle, like movie movie impressed. It was it was my one romantic gesture that because he didn't sing his vows so he didn't sing his vowel.
So you know what, Honestly, I'm gonna tell you something, I kind of would have liked that.
You liked that champagne.
I can't, I know, I know, listend to be in the hospital.
It's not the same jazz Corte to the good job Carmat and I mean he was he wanted to work fast because we were I was in New York on a tour, so we weren't there very long. It wasn't didn't really I am so impressed. Okay, so this is no, this is amazing.
So now you guys, you have two kids, and what I feel like people have just fallen in love with you for is the social media.
So we have to talk about it. First of all, I want.
To know because recently your social media has been you playing a lot.
Of pranks on Chris.
I want to know where you get these. I'm like, where are the ideas from?
I'm in my pranking era? Is it just honestly you thinking crazy things up? Yeah?
I mean like like you went to the beach and you pretend to eat sand and it was just like, how did you even think about the cookies?
Like, I don't want to copy other people prank their husbands. I don't want to copy people. Like I've always been Christ and I both we've always been like on social media, we're doing this. We want to be original content creators. Yeah, and like we don't want to just do the same you know whatever. Yeah, so yeah, I'm always trying to be original. And you know I had done I think I had done like a more simple version where I had switched a wine bottle out with grape juice and people had loved that. Right, Yeah, this is why you were like early morning drinking.
Yes, early morning drinking, and you're like, oh god, he was okay, So we have I have logistical questions when I watched this is your phone set up on the counter recording him?
Is that how you're catching his reaction? Because sometimes you have more than one jingle? So we started out. It was a lot easier when we first started because Chris didn't know. I was just trying to get his reaction on things so I could set up the phone and and he honestly has no idea. That's what You're well for the most part, like he might figure out something's up, especially now because I'm always ranking him. Yeah, doesn't know. Everyone's like, how does he not know that she's pranking you? But the thing is he might know that something is up. He might even spot in one of the hidden cameras, but he doesn't know what I'm doing. Like people, I tell people in the beginning of the video what I'm doing, so everyone knows and they think, oh, this is obvious. How does he not know?
But he doesn't because I don't tell him at the beginning of the pace, so he might spy.
The cameras and realize something's going to be a miss at some point, but might not know.
So when he comes out and you like bought new shoes or like the shorts, he was he by the end of that prank, he definitely thought like, she's got to be pranking me. But I don't know what this is about, Like way until listeners, I haven't seen this, like a couple of your tops. Yeah okay, well okay, so we said switching out the wine for grape juice.
So yeah, you downing a bottle of grape sing in the morning, and he thought.
It was wine. Then there was the beach. I picked up a bucket of sand, which I had, you know, hidden my own prop bucket of sand. I switched them out and I pretended that I was doing like I talked to my camera, yeah, like you can eat the sand. It's actually safe and healthy. And I start just you know, downing the sand.
It looks so real, even though I knew it wasn't real. I was grossed out.
Yeah, it was really great, and it really made me choke, Like I was eating a bunch of sand. So it was it was a very realistic moment. At least it tasted good.
But you also, okay, the peaches. Can you talk to them about the peaches and the eggs?
Oh and the eggs. Oh my mom loves that one. Yeah, it's so good. You know what I do sometimes like I'll come up with how can I switch out you know, a raw egg? And I will google actually follow this guy on YouTube and it's Scott prop and Roll and he is a prop master in Los Angeles and you might know him. And he shows everyone like secrets behind the cameras of how they make props. So I got the egg idea from him. The sand idea, I just figured it out and I googled on Reddit somebody had said make fake sand this way. But so she took can she took a bunch of eggs and you switch the yolk with peaches. My god, this was an elaborate one. I did buy this special device that cracks an egg like as perfectly as you can crack it, because I took I took the shells of an egg. I know it's insane. Too much time, everyone have too much time. No, you don't even have time. You don't have.
This is what's so crazy to you don't have any time. I know how busy you are, so the setup, I'm like, this is incredible that you're able.
To do this. It's it's definitely And then Chris I have to do when he's doing yard work or something, so he's coming in the house and don't like run in my bathroom. No. So I cracked the egg. I dumped the yolks out, and then I boiled the eggs because I wanted them to be clean because I'm going to actually eat. Yes, I had these oiled shells that I was trying to hold together, and I was like, if he looks closely, he's gonna see. But what I did is I made a fake raw egg. This was a trick from a prop master. You can use peaches and thickened water, so I bought there's actually something powder you can buy on Amazon that thickens a liquid so you can thicken the water. And then I put the peaches. You know, I cut them in round circles. It really looks like an egg. Put it in the shell. I was going to try to glue it. That wasn't working out, so put I'm back in the carton, and then I pulled him out and I was like, all right, Chris, you know I'm going to make some answer everybody. And so he really was not suspecting that I put all that work into a break that same Yeah, are you feeling the pressure to just now? Yeah? I know your question. Yes, yes, they have to get better and better. And I'm like, Chris, I don't know what it's going to happen.
I feel like you should be like hosting. I feel like you should be hosting like an America's you know, funniest I feel like you should be hosting a show. It feels like a pink show, like I think, put this out there for Hollywood, for Aaron, because there's no more perfect a person to be doing a show like that.
Let's put it out Sons, thank you, Hey everyone.
We're gonna call it the end of the episode, but stay tuned for part two because we are not done chatting.
