Call It What It IsClose your eyes and use your imagination, at least that’s what Jess & Camilla are doing today!
The duo addresses some of their deepest fears, from worrying about death to having anxious thoughts, they pretend what it would be like if their lives were just like the movies.
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington, an iHeartRadio podcast.
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Here is another short and sweet episode brought to you by BMW.
I love a BMW. I've had a couple of my days.
They're smooth ride. Yeah.
Yeah, I used to like that way back in the day too. I would just like stare at those cars. Be like one day and I'd be on the bus.
We were just in we were walking down the street and we went to the next game, and Luke saw a really sweet, a sweet ass BMW definitely had some kind of custom caller and he was like, whoa could that BMW? It was like two three four nine seven two one. You know, like the style number? Is that what they even call him? Model number?
You think that I would know the mode to just say it out like, oh the two three seven nine one. I love this. I'm so confused. What's going on right now?
Yeah?
I love that. They're all gorgeous.
Okay, let's talk about the picture you sent me from the game.
Of Luke and Benny Blanco.
Yes, and I text you I said, he needs to come and call it what it is. I love him.
How about the fact that Luke managed to you know, he he got the moxie to go up to Benny Blanco and ask for a picture. And I didn't have the moxie to walk up to Benny Blanco and be like, hey, will you come on the podcast.
No, that was such a dish opportunity. We're so silly. I messed it up.
I saw an interview with him, and he's like, very extrovert. He defines himself as an extrovert, and he's super friendly, and I think.
That you should come on, come on, Benny. I love that new song with him too.
Oh my gosh, it's so good. Well, here was actually the most endearing part of the picture of Luke and Benny. We'll call him Benny. Now he's my friend.
Is that?
I said, Oh my gosh, that was so cool. You asked to take a picture of him. And he goes, yeah, he was super cool, super chill guy. I was like yeah, and he goes yeah. He just you know, he he said, just yeah, yeah, man, I'll take a picture with you. Just hold on, let me let me move my chicken tenders into my other hand. He didn't want to take a picture with the chicken tenders. He was so polite. You didn't want the chicken tenders in the picture with him. He was like, you don't want to take a picture of me and my chicken tender? Do you want to take a picture of me?
I don't know though, Sometimes, like I remember the chicken tender picture with Taylor Swift, everyone was like talking all the chicken tenders. Sometimes you want to know, like what are you eating? What kind of sauces do you get with that? Like I have questions are you're a ranch person or you a honey mustard?
Do you know this about me? I get all the sauces.
Every single one pretty much.
I mean truly, like a little dip in every single one, not like all of them together. So it's some sort of you know, no no, no, noopath sauce, but like you know, like you take it, you dip it, and then you have a little branch BikeE and then you may have a little honey mustard and then a little barbecue.
I this is something that Matt and I fight about all the time actually because he I really desperately. His food looks really dry to me all the time, and I'm like, you just need a sauce and he doesn't want a sauce, and it like, actually kind of pisces me off.
Another reason why we probably should live together.
Yeah, obviously.
By the way, speaking of your husband, who did you get a text from this week?
Yesterday?
Mamma Capshaw she saved in my phone is Mama Capshaw and miss Ky Capshaw the icon that she is graced me with her texting and I really truly mean that and said that she loved the mad I episode. And I instantly got all red faced and hot because I was, like, God, I talk We talked about farts and everything, and she's so chic and I can't even believe she listened to that, But she she sent me a couple real cute texts.
She loves you, she thinks your so well, so you are so funny, but oh my gosh, and then and then again, guys, it's not just on the podcast that she musters all this incredible witch. She does it on text. Actually that might be where you shine the brightest.
I was on texts. Yeah, not in person. No, not person. Oh my god.
One of my favorite things. People say, you're so much taller, I'm prettier in person.
Thanks I've gotten that too.
I don't know what I look like on the show, like, like, oh my god, there's so much I'm like, what do I look like on TV?
Anyway?
Yeah, actually talking about being on TV, here's what we're tackling today.
If you were the main character of the movie in your.
Life, which you should be, yeah, exactly, and you have an audience watching the movie, Hey, what would the audience be screaming at you to do and be? What needs to change? Yeah, okay, let's get inspired by the crew and then we can answer at the end because.
They got some good submissions.
Well, and by the way, I just want to add to this for anyone who's super visual like myself, I did envision this. Like you're sitting in a movie theater, like a really big one, not a teeny tiny one.
Yeah you sold out like the l Capitan or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you're watching a movie and you got all these audience members and they're just watching, poping some popcorn, drinking some soda, all the stuff, and they're so into the movie and you're doing stuff and they're so inspired or we're not like here or not, they're really not. They need you to do something different by the movie of your life that they have to scream.
At you to do something you know what, I already know what on my answer, so I just to say it right now. They would be screaming at me stop worrying about fucking dying. I know, I know, And I say it with a smile because it's like, I know this is my thing, this is my trigger, but like it is my trigger because of my you know, my mommy trauma. But like I think that they would be like, just fucking enjoy your day, like stop worrying about and zolof does help me stop wearing a little bit, and soda is therapy.
But there's still that underlying thing.
Yeah, I think when you have that, uh, it's yeah, it really does frame your whole life. It does.
It's like a real it's a real hard right turn.
But you really took me down.
I don't know how to come back. De grossing Listen, lets it was really depressing. That's what they would be screaming because that is that's real.
For me, and you know what, that is real and that's why. But what's also real and this is I just love you so much. I really do. There's so many times in those podcasts where just I just think again, I think you shine so bright, and I just think you're the most wonderful person in the world. But I love you because you can bring that. And then the flip side of it, which is the laughter.
Just just gotta get a laugh for it.
Yeah, you're left not a little drunk.
Yeah, So let's remind ourselves that if you were the main character in the movie of your life, and you have an audience watching the movie, what is the audience.
Screaming at you to do? And what do you need to change? And we got some crazies admissions? Why don't you kick it off?
Okay, Cameron says, to get with the guys. All my friends think I should get with.
Yeah, a little bravery out there, it's ooves.
Yeah, that's fun. She's got fine.
I was a real downer. Yeah, I know you're we started off listen. That was real. It was real and also a downer. But it's fine.
That was okay, yeah, or it's not fine sometimes and we can sit in that too. We're brave, yeah, Alicia said, ask her out already and stop being so scared. That's such a big one.
Who is the Alicia who is she? Can we help facilitate this? Yeah? Okay, Kens?
Why does every thing have to be so negative with you? Can't you just think positive for once?
Ken's yes, I listen. The world is.
Real tough right now, I understand how easy it is to do sometimes.
Well, that reminds me of my screensaver is the which which is the antisote to all that mine too, is that if you're worried all the time, and you really believe in your worry, then and and it's it's just worry, right, It's not an actual thing that's happened, It's just you're worry about a thing that might happen. Then couldn't it be equally true because you're thinking all the time it's not going to work out, right, couldn't equally true that everything could work out? And so if you just flip the script and spend more time thinking what if it all works out? Instead of what if it doesn't work out? Then how does how does thing? How do things change for you? And I have to say they've changed a lot for me. Yeah, I agree, as I deal with anxiety, which is you know, definitely.
You've only recently started saying that.
By the way, I think it's I asked you that question before and you have not, so welcome.
To the club.
Yeah, it's pretty cool. Thanks, there's a lot of us. Do I get a card?
All right?
Bella said.
The audience would be screaming at me to stand up for myself. Yes, yes, yes, Sometimes I don't stand up for myself either.
Summer to not care about everyone else's opinion. I can't change it, so why worry about it so much?
Yes, because let them, let them know, Robin and them, Tolly says, tell me to say no. I've been saying yes to everything. Oh, I say yes.
I know.
There was definitely a moment in my life where I just used to be able to manage all of it, and so I would say yes to everything anyone asked me to do. And I thought that was fine, and then kids in life and work and everything else, and then all of a sudden I realized I said yes to everything, and there would be very conflicting items on my calendar.
You know that movie like yesterday you need no Day?
I need no Day? No, No, I can't can you do that?
No?
I can't, No, I can't.
Okay, Benji said, get out of the house. Even if it's just for a walk and find some hobbies.
I can relate to the hobbies. I need more hobbies. Actually, goog the.
Do sometimes you could get out of the house. You're a little slothy.
I do.
I love a slothy.
Yeah, I know, Coco block him, that's yes, because also it's easy just block. Yeah, didn't used to be so easy. I didn't have that back in the day. It'd be great to block him. Uh and get my driver's license. Yes, you'll have so much freedom, it's amazing.
Rich said, to stop beating myself up over the past.
I get that.
Oh, I get that.
They would probably scream get your shit together when they scream at all of us in some way to get there's some part of everyone's life that just needs to get a little more together.
Mm hmm. Yeah. I feel like you do that for me sometimes.
Megan said, have another baby and leave my teaching job to bake full time. Yes, please, Megan, open a bakery, open and send us the goods. M m Ashley kiss a girl. So I'd come out publicly crying on the inside.
Ashley hashtag crying on the inside.
Yeah, hashtag crying and Ashley ashally go kiss a girl. Yeah, we support this, Ashley, go get it.
Yeah, Jessica, let go of the narcissistic, toxic family members in my life. It only hurts worse to hang on. Oh that's all. Let them, Yeah that is, let them be on their journey and then let you figure out how to keep your mind and body safe.
Yeah.
Absolutely, Selena, You've got to eventually stop choosing the job over the man.
Let too many good ones slip away. That's hard, you know, don't hear this often?
Do you know?
So many great guys let it?
I know.
But she's choosing work life. She's making that the priority right now, and I think it sounds like she needs to make room for more. We can always get lost in the things. You can get lost in a relationship, you can get lost on your work, you can get lost in motherhood.
Yeah. Yeah, Lana said, stop feeling sorry for yourself and get the gup. I know you got to break the cycle. I don't like this. I really don't like when people say this, but I do you think it's true, which is, whenever you get into the habit of not taking care of yourself, maybe not going to the gym, not going for walks, not doing like not doing the things that help your body be strong and fit. You're like, you really don't want to go, but then when you go, you want to go more.
Yeah, it's true. You're never sorry that you went. No, No, you're never sorry.
No, You're never sorry. So I think this is one of those things where it's like, I think you get the up.
I also think that you can make you can make like the last day of it trying. I mean, and be like, you know what, today I'm gonna be slobby, I'm gonna sit in bed, I'm gonna whatever I want to do, and this is the last day to like do that. Oh I like that, you know, So you give yourself that day to like do all the things you want to do.
You want to stand your pjs, you want to brush your teeth for the day, fine, don't.
But tomorrow morning when you you're gonna get up, you're gonna shower, you're gonna do all the things.
You're gonna go outside. Yeah.
I like that, Chloe, stress less about work, go for morning walks, and take my anxiety meds daily. Chloe, I really notice when I sometimes I'm like, you know, I forget to make my anxiety medication. And even after I've gone like three days in a row where I needed to pick up my prescription on it and so busy and haven't done it. And I can notice a difference even in just like three days a bit, I start to feel a little like wobbly.
So yeah, take it daily, people, Ken said, the audience would yell to break up with my boyfriend. Wow, Goddis would yell that sounds like it sounds like he's got a biff or something.
You know, Oh god, get rid of the BEV. You gotta get you gotta biff the biffs.
Maybe that's the T shirt.
Get rid of the BEV.
No biffs allowed, or just biff with a big.
No biffs.
Oh god.
I'd stop getting drunk every weekend and kissing boys you don't like.
That doesn't feel good. I'm not, It's not good for you. I would even call them frogs. I would call them like toads, do you know.
What I mean?
Like whatever step below?
I've done.
Rats, Yeah, I've had. I've had a night or two. Yeah, listen saddle Ranch on Sunset.
Boulevard because was there were a lot of rats there and I was like, you know, two fish bowl fucking my ties deep and everyone started like royal good, they're.
Riding the bowl. You guys doesn't want to like the I mean, I actually do love saddle Ranch because it's his own thing.
Back in the day. I mean, just to explain it. It was a giant It was like an amusement park bar on Sunset Boulevard where I don't even know where people parked, people like shuttle bus in.
I don't I don't know what they parked. I don't really go And there was.
A mechanical bowl in the center of it.
Yeah.
I was really good at having a little smooch and then turning my girlfriends and being like I need to get out of here now.
You and I would have been in so much trouble if we had known each other during this phase.
Yeah, because you're a kissing bandit.
I was a little that saddle ranch. I was a little kissing bandit over its saddle ranch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was like pull them in, push them out, yeah, exactly them in. Yeah, no, fully closed. There was nothing else going on.
There's just a smooch.
Oh my gosh. By the way, I just want to go back to this ida I get it, and where I'd be like, I just want to say that, have you ever had that thing? Thankfully these days are behind me, back in these days that we will refer to as the s R days, the Saddle Ranch days, where it was actually my only favorite part of this situation, the horror and semi delight slash hilarity that would come the next day when you'd remember something, yes, that had been blocked.
Yes, can I tell you? Yes? Yes? And you would and you were dying a cringe dying.
And you'd have to maybe go have another mimosa because you're like, I need to just not remember anything. It's funny because my my kissing snow cheese at that time referred to as as famous people, so it'd be like one of the people I made out with was the poor Man's Orlando Bloom, but it was always the poor Man's.
It's like they looked, they didn't quite look, you know. There were several notches.
Down the pms, but not the prime ministers.
They were not, Yeah they were, they were not the real deals had a lot of pms.
They were dupes. They were the dupes. Yeah, then they were victorious.
Stop pleasing everyone, be a little more selfish and love myself more.
Yes to that. Yeah, Julie said, the audience would be like, girl, just you wait, You're gonna meet Jessica and Camilla one day.
I want to go on the road, jess.
Let's do it. Let's take this show on the road.
I would would you guys join us if you one on the road. I feel like we need to hit up a city. Oh my gosh, yes, which city you guys? Which city? Where are you guys?
Tell us where you want us. We're gonna take this shit on the road.
Listen. That inspired me. By the way, speaking of we were.
At the I was at the next game last night, and I not only did I see Benny Blanco, but I also saw Whitney Cummings, who was on the show. And she's on the road. She's taken her show on the road.
She say hi, yeah, oh hello. I ran into her in.
The bathroom and then we squealed and we hugged, and then we told each other how great the other one looked, and then yeah, those great little ketchup. She loved coming on the show and we loved having her, so it's great.
Yeah.
Her her tiktoks right now are cracking me up. She is really funny. She's so I do you want to expect the zero filter?
I really like, I don't know. I kind of wish that I had a little bit more of that, but I'm too scared.
Yeah, I agree.
Okay, you have to answer the question before what would they be screaming at you?
Gosh, I do feel very inspired by many of the ones that we got. I think, what would they be screaming at me? I think that they would be I think that right now, I think I'm gonna go with the right now. I think they would say stop worrying, like it's gonna what if it all works out? You know, it's all gonna be okay. It's like I think that, I think, I think, I just you know, I run scenarios. We've talked about this before, and my therapist always says, stop with the futurizing because I can as soon as I start going into the what ifs, you know, and it can be like a beautiful day. There's no there's no it's gonna it's it's all gonna be good. But I just you know, and I think be present because I can get a little like I find safety and planning in case you haven't noticed control it's a yeah, so you know, then I'm but then I'm living in the future and I'm comforted by this idea of the future and how it's gonna go, and then I'm not in the present. So I think I've been I think the audience will be yelling that, but I also have been, you know, kindly, softly and sweetly whispering that to myself as well, like just stop worrying. It's gonna be okay, all coming good.
Super relatable. I mean, what else can you say, I'm worrying all the time. Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm getting better at it. I was a lot worse.
But yes, I think that's probably a a lot of people are feeling like that's what.
Their audience is also yelling at them today. Yeah, all right, I love this episode.
We gotta chet it up and I love you and I love you, and let's call it the end of the episode.
