From host Matt Conner:

"From the moment I had the idea for this podcast, I knew I needed to sit down with my friend Thomas McKenzie as the cornerstone conversation. Thematically speaking, as a podcast exploring what it means to create in the image of a Creator, it felt very important for me to begin with some theological guard rails in place, so to speak.

After all, if we're talking about the image of God, inspiration from God, and our interaction with God, then we've got to establish some theological norms pretty quickly. What made Thomas the ideal interview subject was easy: I trusted him. Not only was he a longtime friend but he was also my pastor at Church of the Redeemer for the years that my family lived in Nashville, Tennessee.

And while I knew he was beloved by so many, it wasn't until his recent funeral after a horrific car accident that claimed both his life and the life of his daughter, Charlie, that I learned just how many others had trusted Thomas the same way I had.

Listening back to this interview stirs so many emotions in me. But one of those is certainly gratitude. He was always filled with so much wisdom and love when speaking on matters of the spirit. Thomas was such a beautiful co-creator with the Spirit and was a man who understood Genesis 1 as an invitation to join in the same process of calling forth beauty from chaos.

Even now, it's a gift to hear his voice and receive his words in this episode. And I'm so glad we were able to carve out the time to make this happen last summer. We certainly hope it's helpful for you too, as we begin to explore what it means as Christians to call it good."

Audio engineering & theme music by Asher Peterson. Find transcripts for Call It Good at RabbitRoom.com/podcast.