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4: In 988 We Trust?

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Stigma is one of 988’s biggest hurdles. The other is widespread fear of first responders that has increased with every report of another police killing. The latter has led to pervasive misinformation online about how 988 works. But even if we set the record straight, how can we get to a place of public buy-in? It’s one thing to implement a new system for crisis response; it’s another to completely shift culture. How does 988 earn the trust of the people it’s trying to help? In this episode, you’ll hear from actress Glenn Close, Zak Williams, and others working to change the national conversation around mental health.



Connect With Glenn

Bring Change to Mind creates peer support groups for high school students, find out if there’s a chapter near you!

Emergency Services for Deaf Users

Read Steve Hamerdinger’s adapted paper on mental health needs for deaf people and learn more from the National Association of the Deaf.

Keep Up With 988

Follow the rollout, upcoming legislation, and all things 988.

Stay in Touch With Zak

Check out the various mental health organizations Zak is involved with.



Call for Help is a Lemonada original, presented by Sozosei Foundation. Hosting and story-editing were done by Stephanie Wittels Wachs. Our producers are Alie Kilts and Alexa Lim. Tess Novotny is our associate producer. Natasha Jacobs is our engineer and sound designer. Music is by Xander Singh with additional music by Natasha Jacobs. Naomi Barr is our fact checker. Executive producers are Stephanie Wittels Wachs, Zak Williams and Jessica Cordova Kramer. Special thanks to Chrystal Genesis and Jackie Danziger for additional support.

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