Second dat day. We've heard of fails happening on first dates, a lot of them, like forgetting your wallet by accident, or hitting a parked car trying to parallel park in front of the restaurant. We don't hear a lot of stories though, with altercations where punches are thrown. What is that what we're doing? Apparently that's what happened with one of our listeners Aiden. Oh no, so, Aiden, please tell me that you were at a UFC fight watching the melee in the octagon. Is that what you meant or are we talking about your fists? No, man, it was It was my fist, but it was all in my head. Wait, what what I'll get there? That's oh my god? Well, no, wonder anyone is not calling you back. Nobody likes fighting on the first date. Yeah. I don't think we should rush to judgment here before we hear the story, even if it does sound kind of weird at first glance. Yeah, but Aiden, I mean take us back to the ginning. What's your date's name? Her name is Kim Okay, she was cool. Yeah. I met her online and her profile said my father used to say, whatever you do, do it one hundred percent. When you work, you work hard. When you laugh, you laugh hard, you laugh loudly. When you eat, eat a ton of food. Right, Dad's like, no one's watching. Ye. I was like, hey, your dad said that, right, So I was like, me and your dad, we have a lot in common. I'd like to feed you a lot of food and laugh loudly with you. And she she loved it. Okay, okay, Yeah, It's usually not a great thing to say, like, hey, I'm a lot like your dad to a woman that your no, I'm not not no, no. If you follow it, I'm going to feed you a lot of food. Everyone says yes to that. Yeah, that's what you want to do. So would you guys do? How'd you guys bond? It was good. I mean we chatted and then we uh, you know, excited to let do a date and everything like that. So we both met up for a few drinks and a barment not food. I thought, the whole point is you're going to feed her a bunch of food. I mean, I'm assuming this bar has food. Yeah, but still that's not like a choice of food. He drinks are edible. But if you if you went to a restaurant, you'd be like, what no drinks? He promised food. I thought there'd be more thought into what they were going to eat. I don't think that that is a bad expectation. Okay, was was there food at this bar? Can we put this to rest? Maybe this is how the fight started. Yes, there was food. Okay. She was the one that suggested she suggested this bar anyway, Okay, all right, So how was it like the first meeting? How are you feeling when you see her for the first time? Beautiful, fantastic, She was hilarious. We joked a lot, and you know, and so like, we had a few drinks and I said, pick a guy in a bar and I'll fight them for you right now. And she laughed and she was like, I don't want you to fight anybody anymore. So this is where it happened. She's like, maybe yourself there. So I punched myself in the head and she laughed, and we've done like that, and then I thought it got extreme. He's like, oh my god, I have a nice of himself a concussion yourself. Was it like a serious punch or joke? No, it was a joke. Okay. Very light in the light above my temple. It was perfectly fine, right, this is I think we can all rest easy now. And she liked the self punch. Yeah, she thought it was hilarious. Good, okay, you sound like you have the same sense of humor. Absolutely absolutely. But then she got like, well we had a humor drinks from ended up going back to my place to see a movie. Okay, and we made out for a little bit. She like, you didn't go any farther than that, but it was nice. It was really nice. That goes against her policy of when you make out, make out as hard as time. It's like I can't breathe. Maybe that's why she's acting all weird. I don't know what did she say when she left. She said she had a good time. Um, but she's been acting strange over text. What do you mean she's acting strange? Yeah? I just I asked her if she wanted to hang on Friday. I asked she was free, and she said, huh you would like that, wouldn't you. I roll emoji. Oh kid. Maybe she's trying to be sarcastic on text and it's not really out a weird response. No, yeah, I mean so, I said, l yeah, I would are you up for it, and she said whatever did you ask her, like, did I do something to make you angry? Women don't like when you get at She just at it. She just ended with whatever, Okay, I mean and she said whatever in capped. Maybe she's just mad that you got beat up on your date and she doesn't want to date to wuss. Yeah, but he also kind of won that fight at the same time. True, is there anything she could have found out about you, like on a Google search or something, or maybe inside your apartment because she was over there for at least a little bit. Yeah. Oh no, I'm a normal guy. I have got a normal job. I'm all good. That's what all the crazies say. I don't know, man, It's like the day was really playful, very fun, and then back to my place it was very romantic and like, I don't know, and then those attitude all the way at the end here and I like, I don't know what's going on. Oh that is weird. Sounds like you're in a relationship already. Let's call Kim here and we'll ask her the question that all women love to be asked, why are you so mad at me? Yeah? What did I do? Yeah, maybe we could tone down that tone. Why are you so upset with the way that I said it? Anyway, we'll do your second date update now. Second texting in a new relationship can be so dangerous because they can ask you, Hey, what do you want to eat tonight? And you respond whatever, okay, and that sounds to your ears, but the person on the other phone might read it as whatever. So normally we reserve judgment in these situations, except for the fact that in this case the girl used all caps. I do not forget that. That's why when our listener Aiden said, Hey, I'd really like to see you. Is that okay with you? Whatever? I roll emoji. I think we're reading that correctly. Yeah, And the only question that we have is why why would she respond that way? Because they had a really normal date. They went back to his place, made out, and he said he just wants to hang out again, and she's giving an attitude. I don't get it personally, I'm scared Aiden, Yeah, me too, I don't. I don't like to call angry women. It's just you just like to be one, Yeah, waiting to happen. Yeah, it really is. And you can't think of any reason why should be so mad at you? I literally can't think of one thing. We had a great date, laughed a lot, and a little romantic at the end, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, and with good boundaries like the whole thing. Yeah. Well, well we're all confused. Hopefully something we learn and get a little clarity. Maybe she's just randomly mad he texted her on the wrong day. Maybe whatever, jose Let's just call this girl and what she has to say. Here we go. Hello, Hey is this Kim? Yeah? Hey, Kim. My name is jeff from the radio show Broken Jeffrey in the Morning. Kim, Hey, hope we caught you in a good mood today. Okay, I don't expect him though. We don't care if you are. I mean, it's fine if you're not, that's okay too. How did you guys get my number? Good question. We had a listener give it to us after telling us a story about a date that you two went on. Okay, who is it talking about? Aiden? Aiden gave you my number? Yeah, because it's part of a segment we're doing right now called a second Date Update. We're trying to help Aiden figure out why date number two hasn't happened. Yet it doesn't seem like you're that interested. Is that true? Well, well, yeah, I'm not that interested anymore. I mean I knew it. Did you like google search him or something and find out something weird? No? Should I No, I didn't mean that. I didn't mean like that. I meant like he told us about the data. It sounded great, And then now it sounds like you hate him just based on the text messages that he was reading to us. Oh, he was reading text messages to you because we felt the same way that he did. That. It seems like from what happened that night, you two had a great time. So there's obviously a disconnect happening. We're trying to figure out where it is. Well, if you want to know, I just I mean, I thought Aiden was great. He was super sweet, good, he's funny, the date was great. But I just started noticing some patterns that I don't really want in a potential partner. Okay, okay, what is it? What type of patterns were you seeing? Well, so when we first started talking, we were really flirting over text, and I would send him like selfies of me, like getting ready to go out with the girls and you know, just be cute and flirting, and he would comments and reply with these long paragraphs about how cuto was just whatever, just like making me feel super beautiful and super seen. And then after the date, I sent him another picture and he just replied with a heart emoji reaction. Okay, okay, yeah right, I mean not after like what he'd been doing the previous week when I've been sending him pictures. I don't know, it just feels weird. It feels like, I don't know, I feel like maybe a little taken advantage of taking advantage of what does that mean. I don't know, Like he fix he made out, I don't know, like he asked you out again, though he said he wanted to hang out with you again, Like his fix is just kissing. It just seems like he wasn't that attentive. That's what it was. And I don't even know why I'm telling you people on the radio, it's like there's a you think there was like a vibe shift because he didn't write a paragraph, but he just like loved your girl. Yeah, he liked you so much he contacted a radio station to get a hold of you, to get another date with you. Yeah, that's just finding that out now. But you were reading it wrong, obviously, is what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't think I am reading it wrong. He was treating me a lot different before. You like a hype response and you just get the heart still means a lot like. Yeah, maybe he reached his text limit and that was all that he could get. I don't think. It's probably just you don't have time always to do that. Yeah, And it feels like you're too desperate. You don't want to do it with everyone. It's too needy, I mean, and even if you left you on red it'd be worse than a horror. Don't let us tell you. Let aid and tell you directly, because he's been on the other line listening this whole time and he wants to say it. Oh hey, how you doing a poem ready? Bro? I don't know. I look, I don't even know what I'm supposed to do here, you know, Sorry, Kim, I I literally don't know what you need for me. So you want me to write a paragraph every time you send a picture? Is that what you want? Because no, I just feels like a little bit of a red flag for me. Oh um, Well, that's a red coast for you there. I don't know why you call the radio station. Oh yeah, it's just like send a message back saying something. You know. It just makes me, I like feel embarrassed, and I like, I put this effort into taking a picture and sending it to you, and yet you like just hearted it. I don't know. So a heart isn't isn't enough of a show of appreciation selfie? Or was it a little bit more provocative? You know, because that is a difference. Oh well that is selfie just deserves a heart, no offense. But I'm just saying I'm not sending these pictures to every man. I mean I'm sending to him. I mean they're they're like subjective, but they're not extreme. I don't know, I don't you want to know. I don't even talking about these pictures. So you just need more validation in your life? Is Yeah, it comes down to a would you like to apologize for not validating her? I was validating her with the heart. I didn't know she needed like words of affirmation. Okay, but think about it, like when you write something funny in like a group text and people just do a haha to it instead of like writing back, Oh my god, that was so funny, like, yeah, I don't know. That's a half hearted heart that happens all the time in my group text So maybe I don't know. I thought we had a great time. Look, I'm willing to learn. I'm willing to get coaching here. If you need more, I'm happy to give you more. All right, that's a good And it's good that you guys are having some open communication right now. I agree. He sounds pretty remorseful for not being more appreciative because he didn't he didn't realize that she needed that. But now that he knows, he can change exactly. Yeah. If he knows that, now that's different. Okay. Yeah. The thing is that I don't know if he's going to do it on a consistent basis, Like every time you make God, is he just going to give me like a thumbed up I don't know. High five after a good makeout session is always good? He texts him like good, yeah, God, high five your husband? Yeah? Sure, oh god, I'm willing to understand that if it was like a pattern, but this only happened once, so I'm willing to take the note and I'm happy to change, but just start right now by saying one really nice thing about the way that she looks in her last picture. So ahead, there you go. You have amazing legs, like absolutely, guard that's a little bit too long. I need just one word art legs changed. He's a changed man. He's got to work his way up, and he'll do that on the next date you guys go out with that will pay for if you're up for giving him another shot at that. Kim, what do you say? One more date? He'm fine, fine, as long as you're willing to learn it. Like I did have a good time. Oh yeah, great, that was angry sweet same time. Fine, great, the most romantic ending to a second date we've ever We did it right, well, thank you, just say whatever and Jeffrey in the morning, I know our number one goal on these is trying to get our listeners a second date. I get that thousand percent, and we did that. Brooke has tends to be the opposite, but somebody has stuff carry the torch and champion love, and that's going to be the me We're getting the one. That's so. I'm glad we got that second date. But does anybody else think it's a little bit weird that she completely stopped talking to him and was willing to never see him again because he hearted a photo. It sounds like he's destined to have one of her like Jose type relationships. How did those go a little tumultuous? Yeah, burn hot in the beginning and go ice cold within. Yeah, but sometimes that's all people are looking for. Jeff Yeah, you know we're not. It's not called eighteen date update. We just gotta get one more. Yea, that's a victory for us. We want to get you some victories in the dating world. You can email the show. We'll call that person who isn't calling you back. And check out all of our second date podcasts. They're up online wherever you get your past or you can go to our website Brooke and Jeffrey dot com Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning

Second dat day. We've heard of fails happening on first dates, a lot of them, like forgetting your wallet by accident, or hitting a parked car trying to parallel park in front of the restaurant. We don't hear a lot of stories though, with altercations where punches are thrown. What is that what we're doing? Apparently that's what happened with one of our listeners Aiden. Oh no, so, Aiden, please tell me that you were at a UFC fight watching the melee in the octagon. Is that what you meant or are we talking about your fists? No, man, it was It was my fist, but it was all in my head. Wait, what what I'll get there? That's oh my god? Well, no, wonder anyone is not calling you back. Nobody likes fighting on the first date. Yeah. I don't think we should rush to judgment here before we hear the story, even if it does sound kind of weird at first glance. Yeah, but Aiden, I mean take us back to the ginning. What's your date's name? Her name is Kim Okay, she was cool. Yeah. I met her online and her profile said my father used to say, whatever you do, do it one hundred percent. When you work, you work hard. When you laugh, you laugh hard, you laugh loudly. When you eat, eat a ton of food. Right, Dad's like, no one's watching. Ye. I was like, hey, your dad said that, right, So I was like, me and your dad, we have a lot in common. I'd like to feed you a lot of food and laugh loudly with you. And she she loved it. Okay, okay, Yeah, It's usually not a great thing to say, like, hey, I'm a lot like your dad to a woman that your no, I'm not not no, no. If you follow it, I'm going to feed you a lot of food. Everyone says yes to that. Yeah, that's what you want to do. So would you guys do? How'd you guys bond? It was good. I mean we chatted and then we uh, you know, excited to let do a date and everything like that. So we both met up for a few drinks and a barment not food. I thought, the whole point is you're going to feed her a bunch of food. I mean, I'm assuming this bar has food. Yeah, but still that's not like a choice of food. He drinks are edible. But if you if you went to a restaurant, you'd be like, what no drinks? He promised food. I thought there'd be more thought into what they were going to eat. I don't think that that is a bad expectation. Okay, was was there food at this bar? Can we put this to rest? Maybe this is how the fight started. Yes, there was food. Okay. She was the one that suggested she suggested this bar anyway, Okay, all right, So how was it like the first meeting? How are you feeling when you see her for the first time? Beautiful, fantastic, She was hilarious. We joked a lot, and you know, and so like, we had a few drinks and I said, pick a guy in a bar and I'll fight them for you right now. And she laughed and she was like, I don't want you to fight anybody anymore. So this is where it happened. She's like, maybe yourself there. So I punched myself in the head and she laughed, and we've done like that, and then I thought it got extreme. He's like, oh my god, I have a nice of himself a concussion yourself. Was it like a serious punch or joke? No, it was a joke. Okay. Very light in the light above my temple. It was perfectly fine, right, this is I think we can all rest easy now. And she liked the self punch. Yeah, she thought it was hilarious. Good, okay, you sound like you have the same sense of humor. Absolutely absolutely. But then she got like, well we had a humor drinks from ended up going back to my place to see a movie. Okay, and we made out for a little bit. She like, you didn't go any farther than that, but it was nice. It was really nice. That goes against her policy of when you make out, make out as hard as time. It's like I can't breathe. Maybe that's why she's acting all weird. I don't know what did she say when she left. She said she had a good time. Um, but she's been acting strange over text. What do you mean she's acting strange? Yeah? I just I asked her if she wanted to hang on Friday. I asked she was free, and she said, huh you would like that, wouldn't you. I roll emoji. Oh kid. Maybe she's trying to be sarcastic on text and it's not really out a weird response. No, yeah, I mean so, I said, l yeah, I would are you up for it, and she said whatever did you ask her, like, did I do something to make you angry? Women don't like when you get at She just at it. She just ended with whatever, Okay, I mean and she said whatever in capped. Maybe she's just mad that you got beat up on your date and she doesn't want to date to wuss. Yeah, but he also kind of won that fight at the same time. True, is there anything she could have found out about you, like on a Google search or something, or maybe inside your apartment because she was over there for at least a little bit. Yeah. Oh no, I'm a normal guy. I have got a normal job. I'm all good. That's what all the crazies say. I don't know, man, It's like the day was really playful, very fun, and then back to my place it was very romantic and like, I don't know, and then those attitude all the way at the end here and I like, I don't know what's going on. Oh that is weird. Sounds like you're in a relationship already. Let's call Kim here and we'll ask her the question that all women love to be asked, why are you so mad at me? Yeah? What did I do? Yeah, maybe we could tone down that tone. Why are you so upset with the way that I said it? Anyway, we'll do your second date update now. Second texting in a new relationship can be so dangerous because they can ask you, Hey, what do you want to eat tonight? And you respond whatever, okay, and that sounds to your ears, but the person on the other phone might read it as whatever. So normally we reserve judgment in these situations, except for the fact that in this case the girl used all caps. I do not forget that. That's why when our listener Aiden said, Hey, I'd really like to see you. Is that okay with you? Whatever? I roll emoji. I think we're reading that correctly. Yeah, And the only question that we have is why why would she respond that way? Because they had a really normal date. They went back to his place, made out, and he said he just wants to hang out again, and she's giving an attitude. I don't get it personally, I'm scared Aiden, Yeah, me too, I don't. I don't like to call angry women. It's just you just like to be one, Yeah, waiting to happen. Yeah, it really is. And you can't think of any reason why should be so mad at you? I literally can't think of one thing. We had a great date, laughed a lot, and a little romantic at the end, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, and with good boundaries like the whole thing. Yeah. Well, well we're all confused. Hopefully something we learn and get a little clarity. Maybe she's just randomly mad he texted her on the wrong day. Maybe whatever, jose Let's just call this girl and what she has to say. Here we go. Hello, Hey is this Kim? Yeah? Hey, Kim. My name is jeff from the radio show Broken Jeffrey in the Morning. Kim, Hey, hope we caught you in a good mood today. Okay, I don't expect him though. We don't care if you are. I mean, it's fine if you're not, that's okay too. How did you guys get my number? Good question. We had a listener give it to us after telling us a story about a date that you two went on. Okay, who is it talking about? Aiden? Aiden gave you my number? Yeah, because it's part of a segment we're doing right now called a second Date Update. We're trying to help Aiden figure out why date number two hasn't happened. Yet it doesn't seem like you're that interested. Is that true? Well, well, yeah, I'm not that interested anymore. I mean I knew it. Did you like google search him or something and find out something weird? No? Should I No, I didn't mean that. I didn't mean like that. I meant like he told us about the data. It sounded great, And then now it sounds like you hate him just based on the text messages that he was reading to us. Oh, he was reading text messages to you because we felt the same way that he did. That. It seems like from what happened that night, you two had a great time. So there's obviously a disconnect happening. We're trying to figure out where it is. Well, if you want to know, I just I mean, I thought Aiden was great. He was super sweet, good, he's funny, the date was great. But I just started noticing some patterns that I don't really want in a potential partner. Okay, okay, what is it? What type of patterns were you seeing? Well, so when we first started talking, we were really flirting over text, and I would send him like selfies of me, like getting ready to go out with the girls and you know, just be cute and flirting, and he would comments and reply with these long paragraphs about how cuto was just whatever, just like making me feel super beautiful and super seen. And then after the date, I sent him another picture and he just replied with a heart emoji reaction. Okay, okay, yeah right, I mean not after like what he'd been doing the previous week when I've been sending him pictures. I don't know, it just feels weird. It feels like, I don't know, I feel like maybe a little taken advantage of taking advantage of what does that mean. I don't know, Like he fix he made out, I don't know, like he asked you out again, though he said he wanted to hang out with you again, Like his fix is just kissing. It just seems like he wasn't that attentive. That's what it was. And I don't even know why I'm telling you people on the radio, it's like there's a you think there was like a vibe shift because he didn't write a paragraph, but he just like loved your girl. Yeah, he liked you so much he contacted a radio station to get a hold of you, to get another date with you. Yeah, that's just finding that out now. But you were reading it wrong, obviously, is what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't think I am reading it wrong. He was treating me a lot different before. You like a hype response and you just get the heart still means a lot like. Yeah, maybe he reached his text limit and that was all that he could get. I don't think. It's probably just you don't have time always to do that. Yeah, And it feels like you're too desperate. You don't want to do it with everyone. It's too needy, I mean, and even if you left you on red it'd be worse than a horror. Don't let us tell you. Let aid and tell you directly, because he's been on the other line listening this whole time and he wants to say it. Oh hey, how you doing a poem ready? Bro? I don't know. I look, I don't even know what I'm supposed to do here, you know, Sorry, Kim, I I literally don't know what you need for me. So you want me to write a paragraph every time you send a picture? Is that what you want? Because no, I just feels like a little bit of a red flag for me. Oh um, Well, that's a red coast for you there. I don't know why you call the radio station. Oh yeah, it's just like send a message back saying something. You know. It just makes me, I like feel embarrassed, and I like, I put this effort into taking a picture and sending it to you, and yet you like just hearted it. I don't know. So a heart isn't isn't enough of a show of appreciation selfie? Or was it a little bit more provocative? You know, because that is a difference. Oh well that is selfie just deserves a heart, no offense. But I'm just saying I'm not sending these pictures to every man. I mean I'm sending to him. I mean they're they're like subjective, but they're not extreme. I don't know, I don't you want to know. I don't even talking about these pictures. So you just need more validation in your life? Is Yeah, it comes down to a would you like to apologize for not validating her? I was validating her with the heart. I didn't know she needed like words of affirmation. Okay, but think about it, like when you write something funny in like a group text and people just do a haha to it instead of like writing back, Oh my god, that was so funny, like, yeah, I don't know. That's a half hearted heart that happens all the time in my group text So maybe I don't know. I thought we had a great time. Look, I'm willing to learn. I'm willing to get coaching here. If you need more, I'm happy to give you more. All right, that's a good And it's good that you guys are having some open communication right now. I agree. He sounds pretty remorseful for not being more appreciative because he didn't he didn't realize that she needed that. But now that he knows, he can change exactly. Yeah. If he knows that, now that's different. Okay. Yeah. The thing is that I don't know if he's going to do it on a consistent basis, Like every time you make God, is he just going to give me like a thumbed up I don't know. High five after a good makeout session is always good? He texts him like good, yeah, God, high five your husband? Yeah? Sure, oh god, I'm willing to understand that if it was like a pattern, but this only happened once, so I'm willing to take the note and I'm happy to change, but just start right now by saying one really nice thing about the way that she looks in her last picture. So ahead, there you go. You have amazing legs, like absolutely, guard that's a little bit too long. I need just one word art legs changed. He's a changed man. He's got to work his way up, and he'll do that on the next date you guys go out with that will pay for if you're up for giving him another shot at that. Kim, what do you say? One more date? He'm fine, fine, as long as you're willing to learn it. Like I did have a good time. Oh yeah, great, that was angry sweet same time. Fine, great, the most romantic ending to a second date we've ever We did it right, well, thank you, just say whatever and Jeffrey in the morning, I know our number one goal on these is trying to get our listeners a second date. I get that thousand percent, and we did that. Brooke has tends to be the opposite, but somebody has stuff carry the torch and champion love, and that's going to be the me We're getting the one. That's so. I'm glad we got that second date. But does anybody else think it's a little bit weird that she completely stopped talking to him and was willing to never see him again because he hearted a photo. It sounds like he's destined to have one of her like Jose type relationships. How did those go a little tumultuous? Yeah, burn hot in the beginning and go ice cold within. Yeah, but sometimes that's all people are looking for. Jeff Yeah, you know we're not. It's not called eighteen date update. We just gotta get one more. Yea, that's a victory for us. We want to get you some victories in the dating world. You can email the show. We'll call that person who isn't calling you back. And check out all of our second date podcasts. They're up online wherever you get your past or you can go to our website Brooke and Jeffrey dot com Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning