Queen Charlotte the Official Podcast is a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership with iHeartRadio. Welcome back to Queen Charlotte the Official Podcast, Your companion behind the scenes of Shondaland's Bridgerton prequel on Netflix. I'm your host, Gabby Collins, and today we're going to have some more fun with me. Here I have Sam Clement, who captured the messy Boots, confidant to our Queen as young Brimsley, and Freddie Dennis, who introduced us to the lost love we didn't know Brimsley had.

Queen Charlotte the Official Podcast is a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership with iHeartRadio. Welcome back to Queen Charlotte the Official Podcast, Your companion behind the scenes of Shondaland's Bridgerton prequel on Netflix. I'm your host, Gabby Collins, and today we're going to have some more fun with me. Here I have Sam Clement, who captured the messy Boots, confidant to our Queen as young Brimsley, and Freddie Dennis, who introduced us to the lost love we didn't know Brimsley had.

I'm always jealous that the King's Man is father to quarters from the Queen's Man.

I'm always jealous that the King's Man is father to quarters from the Queen's Man.

To be expected, I am more important than you.

To be expected, I am more important than you.

In today's episode, we're unlocking key moments from episode too, and we'll be jumping around because it's hard not to when talking about Reynolds and Brimsley's points of view and yay. We're also getting to know Sam and Freddie a little bit. So Freddy is a geographer.

In today's episode, we're unlocking key moments from episode too, and we'll be jumping around because it's hard not to when talking about Reynolds and Brimsley's points of view and yay. We're also getting to know Sam and Freddie a little bit. So Freddy is a geographer.

Guys went to Grama school and then four months later I'm Reynolds. But it was a pretty terrifying leap, and who knows, maybe I will end up as a geography teacher. One day we'll see.

Guys went to Grama school and then four months later I'm Reynolds. But it was a pretty terrifying leap, and who knows, maybe I will end up as a geography teacher. One day we'll see.

Maybe your next role is a geography teacher in a blockbuster movie.

Maybe your next role is a geography teacher in a blockbuster movie.

I think that's what everyone wants to see.

I think that's what everyone wants to see.

Yeah, that's what I want to.

Yeah, that's what I want to.

See everybody live and direct. We have the Brimsley, the Reynolds, we have Sam Clement and Freddie Dennis here. Hello, welcome to the podcast.

See everybody live and direct. We have the Brimsley, the Reynolds, we have Sam Clement and Freddie Dennis here. Hello, welcome to the podcast.

Thank you very much for having us.

Thank you very much for having us.

We're so happy to have you. Hi, Freddie, Hello.

We're so happy to have you. Hi, Freddie, Hello.

Thank you, but also for having us. It's very exciting.

Thank you, but also for having us. It's very exciting.

So wondering if you've seen any of the show yet.

So wondering if you've seen any of the show yet.

Yeah, we've been lucky enough to see all of it.

Yeah, we've been lucky enough to see all of it.

You've seen all of it.

You've seen all of it.

Which was initially terrifying but actually brilliant and I think we're all very proud.

Which was initially terrifying but actually brilliant and I think we're all very proud.

Yeah, it's quite overwhelming watching it all for the first time, I think.

Yeah, it's quite overwhelming watching it all for the first time, I think.

So tell me a little about why it's slightly terrifying for you.

So tell me a little about why it's slightly terrifying for you.

Ready, So this is my first of a job, so I have never seen myself on screen. I'm not sure I ever one seen myself on screen again, but it was for that reason. There's a lot of responsibility that comes with Johnny a world that is as beloved as as Bridgington. Everyone has been so welcoming and lovely, and it's been nothing but a joy.

Ready, So this is my first of a job, so I have never seen myself on screen. I'm not sure I ever one seen myself on screen again, but it was for that reason. There's a lot of responsibility that comes with Johnny a world that is as beloved as as Bridgington. Everyone has been so welcoming and lovely, and it's been nothing but a joy.

Damn, you've been on stage, you've been on screen. Is it still a little terrifying for you? How it was your experience watching it? Oh?

Damn, you've been on stage, you've been on screen. Is it still a little terrifying for you? How it was your experience watching it? Oh?

Yeah, I think any project I ever do, it's terrifying. If it's like first air rehearsals, or if it's the first preview of the show, or if it's if it's the screening of the show. I don't think them nerves ever go away. It's always it's just like apprehension going into something you put so much, so much work into and wanting it to be good and wanting people to love it.

Yeah, I think any project I ever do, it's terrifying. If it's like first air rehearsals, or if it's the first preview of the show, or if it's if it's the screening of the show. I don't think them nerves ever go away. It's always it's just like apprehension going into something you put so much, so much work into and wanting it to be good and wanting people to love it.

Okay, you've seen the show, Sam, what's your favorite scene so far? Like you have three seconds go boom?

Okay, you've seen the show, Sam, what's your favorite scene so far? Like you have three seconds go boom?

Oh, my favorite scene so far is in episode four with me and Freddie and we're bickering around the table.

Oh, my favorite scene so far is in episode four with me and Freddie and we're bickering around the table.

I completely agree. That's also my favorite scene.

I completely agree. That's also my favorite scene.

It was the first scene we ever shot together. It was a lot of fun.

It was the first scene we ever shot together. It was a lot of fun.

Had you already shot scenes from the first three episodes before you got together for this scene and episode for it?

Had you already shot scenes from the first three episodes before you got together for this scene and episode for it?

No, we hadn't. That was your first ever scene, wasn't it, fred Yeah?

No, we hadn't. That was your first ever scene, wasn't it, fred Yeah?

It was, Which was brilliant, but we got it as a standalone scene, and I think we both read it and went, oh, my god, this is completely brilliant and so funny and I can't wait to play with this. But then there was also an element of going, I'm not quite sure I understand the context of this. But then the context came in pretty swiftly before we did shoot it, so that made the whole experience again pretty overwhelming. Overwhelming is my buzzword for today.

It was, Which was brilliant, but we got it as a standalone scene, and I think we both read it and went, oh, my god, this is completely brilliant and so funny and I can't wait to play with this. But then there was also an element of going, I'm not quite sure I understand the context of this. But then the context came in pretty swiftly before we did shoot it, so that made the whole experience again pretty overwhelming. Overwhelming is my buzzword for today.

By the way, unpack has been my buzzwords. So we're in this together. Tell me about the table reads, you guys. I hear that those are always really fun and ripe with laughter and amusement. And were there any special moments that that register when you think back on those early days.

By the way, unpack has been my buzzwords. So we're in this together. Tell me about the table reads, you guys. I hear that those are always really fun and ripe with laughter and amusement. And were there any special moments that that register when you think back on those early days.

I think my favorite moment was when I stopped shaking from fear. That was probably the best one.

I think my favorite moment was when I stopped shaking from fear. That was probably the best one.

I was going to say. The other thing is, with all of them things, it's also absolutely terrifying because I don't know if you agree with this ready, but you're like, this is the first time I'm really saying these words out allows to the entire creative team and the rest of the actors, And if I don't do a good job. I'm going to get fired.

I was going to say. The other thing is, with all of them things, it's also absolutely terrifying because I don't know if you agree with this ready, but you're like, this is the first time I'm really saying these words out allows to the entire creative team and the rest of the actors, And if I don't do a good job. I'm going to get fired.

Yeah, that is exactly what it feels like. And then you find yourself trying to say your lines.

Yeah, that is exactly what it feels like. And then you find yourself trying to say your lines.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I really realized actually during the first table read how funny it is. I didn't. I didn't realize how so funny funny it was. You start hearing everyone's voices and everyone everyone's bringing to it. You're like, oh my god, this is hilarious. This is so much funnier than I originally thought it was.

I really realized actually during the first table read how funny it is. I didn't. I didn't realize how so funny funny it was. You start hearing everyone's voices and everyone everyone's bringing to it. You're like, oh my god, this is hilarious. This is so much funnier than I originally thought it was.

Yes, yes, I agree, it is so funny.

Yes, yes, I agree, it is so funny.

But it's also a brilliant opportunity to relax into your relationships with the other actors, because I think if we had all met first day on set in Blend and Palace, we would just have been sort of screaming and going, oh my god, how do we cope with this? But we had a real opportunity to meet each other. And I think it was three or four weeks before, wasn't it sound before we started shooting, Yeah, something like that, And that meant we started having a rapport and then a subsequent friendship. I think Sam and I went for some drinks drinks with Corey in India just to kind of go yeah, oh my god, pinch me if we're starting this thing. And then we started the whole filming process as mates, which made it a more fun be less intimidating.

But it's also a brilliant opportunity to relax into your relationships with the other actors, because I think if we had all met first day on set in Blend and Palace, we would just have been sort of screaming and going, oh my god, how do we cope with this? But we had a real opportunity to meet each other. And I think it was three or four weeks before, wasn't it sound before we started shooting, Yeah, something like that, And that meant we started having a rapport and then a subsequent friendship. I think Sam and I went for some drinks drinks with Corey in India just to kind of go yeah, oh my god, pinch me if we're starting this thing. And then we started the whole filming process as mates, which made it a more fun be less intimidating.

I think so much easier because you just when you're friends with each other and you have a bit of a chemistry with each other, as you know Samon Freddy and India and Corey, it just makes lifting the scenes off the page a lot easier than meeting someone on the day and going, I don't know who you are. Okay, let's give it a go. Do you know what I mean?

I think so much easier because you just when you're friends with each other and you have a bit of a chemistry with each other, as you know Samon Freddy and India and Corey, it just makes lifting the scenes off the page a lot easier than meeting someone on the day and going, I don't know who you are. Okay, let's give it a go. Do you know what I mean?

We could work together. I could be useful.

We could work together. I could be useful.

I am a patriot. I serve the ground. You cannot take all of this on a learn You.

I am a patriot. I serve the ground. You cannot take all of this on a learn You.

Are climbing, brims I am not. He is mine. Stay down.

Are climbing, brims I am not. He is mine. Stay down.

So okay, what's so interesting about that is that's the scene for me where I'm like, oh, there is back backstory between Reynolds and Brimsley. This is a level of passive aggressiveness that people who know each other reach.

So okay, what's so interesting about that is that's the scene for me where I'm like, oh, there is back backstory between Reynolds and Brimsley. This is a level of passive aggressiveness that people who know each other reach.

Okay, love each other.

Okay, love each other.

Can you and who love each other, yes, tell me the back backstory in your mind of Brimsley and Reynolds. There's so much that's left for viewers to fill in, what did you think.

Can you and who love each other, yes, tell me the back backstory in your mind of Brimsley and Reynolds. There's so much that's left for viewers to fill in, what did you think.

They've known each other for a very long time. We think they would have grown up in the court together learning what it is to be the right hand man of serving the king or the queen. And in terms of the power play between the two, Reynolds definitely got, you know, the number one job in serving the king, and he's always been very arrogant about that he did, and Rimsey fell in just behind with being the queen's man, and they have to look after the one that they are beside, and we're constantly trying to gain information from the other to protect the king or to protect the queen, and so that element of their relationship is a lot of fun to play. But then the more romantic side of things is, you know, the two people that are very isolated and the only downtime that they have is with each other, and so they seek a lot of solace in each other and they become each other's emotional support systems.

They've known each other for a very long time. We think they would have grown up in the court together learning what it is to be the right hand man of serving the king or the queen. And in terms of the power play between the two, Reynolds definitely got, you know, the number one job in serving the king, and he's always been very arrogant about that he did, and Rimsey fell in just behind with being the queen's man, and they have to look after the one that they are beside, and we're constantly trying to gain information from the other to protect the king or to protect the queen, and so that element of their relationship is a lot of fun to play. But then the more romantic side of things is, you know, the two people that are very isolated and the only downtime that they have is with each other, and so they seek a lot of solace in each other and they become each other's emotional support systems.

Yeah, I definitely had the thought that, oh, they have chosen each other because they didn't have many other choices. But that's pretty much what we're seeing across this series too. There's a lot of arrangement and like choosing to love and choosing to commit, And I think that's across all of the relationships in the series.

Yeah, I definitely had the thought that, oh, they have chosen each other because they didn't have many other choices. But that's pretty much what we're seeing across this series too. There's a lot of arrangement and like choosing to love and choosing to commit, And I think that's across all of the relationships in the series.

I think they have to make a choice to love each other. They have a choice whether or not to be together, and there's also a very dangerous choice. But I think that is a testament to how much they clearly do love each other despite all the passive aggression and the bickering, which is my favorite thing to play. It was much fun.

I think they have to make a choice to love each other. They have a choice whether or not to be together, and there's also a very dangerous choice. But I think that is a testament to how much they clearly do love each other despite all the passive aggression and the bickering, which is my favorite thing to play. It was much fun.

Yeah, I mean the power play scenes between the two of them are my favorite parts in the whole series, particularly in episode two, the first scene when we realize they are romantically involved. You know, there is so much information I'm trying to get from him, and he won't give me anything, and that just raises the stakes high and higher and higher.

Yeah, I mean the power play scenes between the two of them are my favorite parts in the whole series, particularly in episode two, the first scene when we realize they are romantically involved. You know, there is so much information I'm trying to get from him, and he won't give me anything, and that just raises the stakes high and higher and higher.

Right, and then Brimsley sees the young King George in the cellar right and later spills the beans and Reynolds is so upset. You just see Renolds jump out of bed and he's like, I cannot believe you spill the beans.

Right, and then Brimsley sees the young King George in the cellar right and later spills the beans and Reynolds is so upset. You just see Renolds jump out of bed and he's like, I cannot believe you spill the beans.

You made me almost corpse quite a few times in that scene. You agreed to see nothing, not agreed, your eyes agreed.

You made me almost corpse quite a few times in that scene. You agreed to see nothing, not agreed, your eyes agreed.

Reynolds is pretty furious at Brimsley at this point, and he's putting on his clothes on in a bit of a rush. But on Sam's coverage, I couldn't get my clothes on because there's a lot of buttons, you know, it's seventeen sixty three or whatever, and I didn't manage to do it, but I wanted to carry on with the momentum of the scene, so I sort of ended up doing the scene naked because I couldn't get my clothes on, and Sam had to respond to me, Yeah, the camera is right at me, and there's a whole bunch of group behind Freddy, and Freddy has to go right round the back of the of the room to then get out of the room, and I have to track him with my eyeline. But all I'm seeing is this man holding all of his clothes trying to get around the instead of like being here with me, and I struggled to hold it together. I'm sure they didn't use that taking it would have been very den I'd have looked ridiculous as ridiculous as me if the cameras the other way around.

Reynolds is pretty furious at Brimsley at this point, and he's putting on his clothes on in a bit of a rush. But on Sam's coverage, I couldn't get my clothes on because there's a lot of buttons, you know, it's seventeen sixty three or whatever, and I didn't manage to do it, but I wanted to carry on with the momentum of the scene, so I sort of ended up doing the scene naked because I couldn't get my clothes on, and Sam had to respond to me, Yeah, the camera is right at me, and there's a whole bunch of group behind Freddy, and Freddy has to go right round the back of the of the room to then get out of the room, and I have to track him with my eyeline. But all I'm seeing is this man holding all of his clothes trying to get around the instead of like being here with me, and I struggled to hold it together. I'm sure they didn't use that taking it would have been very den I'd have looked ridiculous as ridiculous as me if the cameras the other way around.

That's true.

That's true.

I was telling Tom Berica that that set. There's so much detail.

I was telling Tom Berica that that set. There's so much detail.

I remember Brimsey's room and how I mean, he's a very meticulous young man. He knows his job inside out. Everything's very precise. Everything was very perfect when I stepped into his room for the first time. But just walking onto the more elaborate sets, you know, the corridors that go around the palace and one of the Queen's bedroom, the King's bedroom, these elaborate sets that they've you know, they've created. I mean it is like stepping into the grounds of Buckingham Palace. I imagine. The attention to detail was extraordinary. I find it quite overwhelming. And stepping into the likes of Blending Palace is extraordinary as it is, but into something that has been created by you know, the set directors and everyone else, it has a very different meaning to I suppose.

I remember Brimsey's room and how I mean, he's a very meticulous young man. He knows his job inside out. Everything's very precise. Everything was very perfect when I stepped into his room for the first time. But just walking onto the more elaborate sets, you know, the corridors that go around the palace and one of the Queen's bedroom, the King's bedroom, these elaborate sets that they've you know, they've created. I mean it is like stepping into the grounds of Buckingham Palace. I imagine. The attention to detail was extraordinary. I find it quite overwhelming. And stepping into the likes of Blending Palace is extraordinary as it is, but into something that has been created by you know, the set directors and everyone else, it has a very different meaning to I suppose.

Yeah, that was amazing actually because that had just come from drama school and lots of the plays that you're doing are actually they're quite limited in terms of props, and walking into Reynolds's bedroom, I just thought, this is so intricate and detailed. There's a man's life in this room.

Yeah, that was amazing actually because that had just come from drama school and lots of the plays that you're doing are actually they're quite limited in terms of props, and walking into Reynolds's bedroom, I just thought, this is so intricate and detailed. There's a man's life in this room.

Yeah, hurry up and get your tea, come right back. There's more from behind the scenes of Queen Charlotte, a Bridgeton story with Sam Clement and Freddie Dennis right after this. Thanks for staying with us. Now back to our talk with actors Sam Clement and Freddie Dennis. I was wondering if you all could speak to the attentiveness of like Coral Brimsley and Reynolds to the King, to Lady Danbury Young Charlotte. There are particular scenes that I'm thinking of, Like, for example, Sam, there's the scene where you are just five steps behind, five paces behind. Yeah, you're five paces behind, and you've got your hand out at Young Charlotte's back, but you're not touching her. And I was wondering if you could unpack that moment a little bit.

Yeah, hurry up and get your tea, come right back. There's more from behind the scenes of Queen Charlotte, a Bridgeton story with Sam Clement and Freddie Dennis right after this. Thanks for staying with us. Now back to our talk with actors Sam Clement and Freddie Dennis. I was wondering if you all could speak to the attentiveness of like Coral Brimsley and Reynolds to the King, to Lady Danbury Young Charlotte. There are particular scenes that I'm thinking of, Like, for example, Sam, there's the scene where you are just five steps behind, five paces behind. Yeah, you're five paces behind, and you've got your hand out at Young Charlotte's back, but you're not touching her. And I was wondering if you could unpack that moment a little bit.

This moment, for all of us, it basically solidifies who Brimsley is to the.

This moment, for all of us, it basically solidifies who Brimsley is to the.

Queen and I will you shall not tell me what I'm allowed.

Queen and I will you shall not tell me what I'm allowed.

To do, Your majesty, I am the one person who will never tell you what you are allowed to do. I will, however, always tell you how better to do the things you are not allowed to do. The two of them have sort of been trying to find the rhythm with one another and he's been trying to guide her through this new role and what it means to be to be queen, and she's obviously had a lot to deal with, and that becomes more and more intense for her as the series progresses. Within Bridgeton, you know, he doesn't have to say very much, but he is always present. His duty is to serve her first and four most throughout his life, and in that moment he wants to be very very human towards her and support her and hold her and give her a shoulder to cry on. But he's not. He's not allowed to do that. So Shonder Rhymes and Tom Verica, you know, they created this sort of very beautiful tableau of a simple gesture which would basically be him putting his hand on her shoulder, and it's like everything's going to be okay. I am here for you, come what may. And I think that moment is the foundation of who they are and what they then become. In the Bridgeton verse.

To do, Your majesty, I am the one person who will never tell you what you are allowed to do. I will, however, always tell you how better to do the things you are not allowed to do. The two of them have sort of been trying to find the rhythm with one another and he's been trying to guide her through this new role and what it means to be to be queen, and she's obviously had a lot to deal with, and that becomes more and more intense for her as the series progresses. Within Bridgeton, you know, he doesn't have to say very much, but he is always present. His duty is to serve her first and four most throughout his life, and in that moment he wants to be very very human towards her and support her and hold her and give her a shoulder to cry on. But he's not. He's not allowed to do that. So Shonder Rhymes and Tom Verica, you know, they created this sort of very beautiful tableau of a simple gesture which would basically be him putting his hand on her shoulder, and it's like everything's going to be okay. I am here for you, come what may. And I think that moment is the foundation of who they are and what they then become. In the Bridgeton verse.

And Freddie, similarly, Reynolds has a moment where he busts through and is like, get off of the king.

And Freddie, similarly, Reynolds has a moment where he busts through and is like, get off of the king.

I am the kingsman, I will see the king.

I am the kingsman, I will see the king.

Well, no, you are not allowed to.

Well, no, you are not allowed to.

I am the King's man.

I am the King's man.

I will see the King go back.

I will see the King go back.

To your horse, and I'm like, oh, wait, have they grown up together? You know? How long have they known each other? And talk about Reynolds's care for the king and how you pro says that, how you prepared for that.

To your horse, and I'm like, oh, wait, have they grown up together? You know? How long have they known each other? And talk about Reynolds's care for the king and how you pro says that, how you prepared for that.

I think they absolutely have known each other since childhood. And actually Cory and I just discussed that quite a lot, because there there's a sort of unspoken love that exists between King George and Reynolds throughout the series that manifests in increasingly dramatic ways. One of the main things about Reynolds's role is he does a great duty to the king to look after the king, but first and foremost their friends. So the way that I connected to that was just back considering some of my best friends in the world and considering what it would feel like to see them struggling in that way. Because George is a deeply, deeply vulnerable man as we can all see, and Reynolds, I'm going to say, his best friend just wants him to be okay, and he wants to take away that pain for him.

I think they absolutely have known each other since childhood. And actually Cory and I just discussed that quite a lot, because there there's a sort of unspoken love that exists between King George and Reynolds throughout the series that manifests in increasingly dramatic ways. One of the main things about Reynolds's role is he does a great duty to the king to look after the king, but first and foremost their friends. So the way that I connected to that was just back considering some of my best friends in the world and considering what it would feel like to see them struggling in that way. Because George is a deeply, deeply vulnerable man as we can all see, and Reynolds, I'm going to say, his best friend just wants him to be okay, and he wants to take away that pain for him.

Freddie, your encounter with the lines you give to the young King George where you tell him that Princess Augusta has left and he collapses and he sends you to call for the doctor, and you also tell the young King George, don't worry, norm will no that you're going to decompensate. So do you remember that scene?

Freddie, your encounter with the lines you give to the young King George where you tell him that Princess Augusta has left and he collapses and he sends you to call for the doctor, and you also tell the young King George, don't worry, norm will no that you're going to decompensate. So do you remember that scene?

Yeah, yeah, I do. I mean, that's always an interesting scene to me because I remember after we shot that scene Tom Verica that won't get in, which was sad because Corey and I when we got it, we went, oh, wow, this is a this is our sort of first interaction as George and Reynolds. There's almost that unspoken bond between the two of them, and that's a powerful scene because it's the first time I think you see a hint of Reynolds's care for George, but also the cracks very much start appearing for George and you go, Okay, this is quite a serious problem we have on our hands here. And that was amazing to shoot, and we shot there quite early on, and I think it sort of laid the foundation for a lot of mine and Corey's work.

Yeah, yeah, I do. I mean, that's always an interesting scene to me because I remember after we shot that scene Tom Verica that won't get in, which was sad because Corey and I when we got it, we went, oh, wow, this is a this is our sort of first interaction as George and Reynolds. There's almost that unspoken bond between the two of them, and that's a powerful scene because it's the first time I think you see a hint of Reynolds's care for George, but also the cracks very much start appearing for George and you go, Okay, this is quite a serious problem we have on our hands here. And that was amazing to shoot, and we shot there quite early on, and I think it sort of laid the foundation for a lot of mine and Corey's work.

Any moments from the two of you working together, especially if you can remember anything from episode two, any.

Any moments from the two of you working together, especially if you can remember anything from episode two, any.

Stories We definitely have some stories.

Stories We definitely have some stories.

Yeah, we have many stories. So we were staying in an airbnb, the four of us, and and me and Freddie took a bit of a bit of a walk in the countryside and ended up in a field we clearly weren't meant to be in, and we walked down to this little lake and it wasn't really going anywhere, so we walked back and then turned behind us and realized there was a few cows. So instead of instead of dealing with the situation calmly, we decided to run and then realized there was a lot more cows behind us, and then got trapped in this sort of little center section and sent pictures to our castmates and to the crew, and everyone found it hilarious, and we were stuck. We were stuck there for about forty five minutes waiting for them to get bored so we could leave this area and not get trampled by cows.

Yeah, we have many stories. So we were staying in an airbnb, the four of us, and and me and Freddie took a bit of a bit of a walk in the countryside and ended up in a field we clearly weren't meant to be in, and we walked down to this little lake and it wasn't really going anywhere, so we walked back and then turned behind us and realized there was a few cows. So instead of instead of dealing with the situation calmly, we decided to run and then realized there was a lot more cows behind us, and then got trapped in this sort of little center section and sent pictures to our castmates and to the crew, and everyone found it hilarious, and we were stuck. We were stuck there for about forty five minutes waiting for them to get bored so we could leave this area and not get trampled by cows.

I grew up in the Midwest. That's hilarious.

I grew up in the Midwest. That's hilarious.

There were about fifty of them, it was. It was terrifying, and we were considering what to do. We were going do we call the police, what do we say? But the cows never got bored, right so we eventually had to hide in the in the shrubbery waiting for them to go and think, this is so embarrassing. But they were pretty fast.

There were about fifty of them, it was. It was terrifying, and we were considering what to do. We were going do we call the police, what do we say? But the cows never got bored, right so we eventually had to hide in the in the shrubbery waiting for them to go and think, this is so embarrassing. But they were pretty fast.

Actually they were fast, a lot faster than us. But everyone on set thought it was hilarious. They had they had they had no sympathy for us whatsoever. And it became the talk of the set that day and we came on and it was like, we could have we could have died. But no.

Actually they were fast, a lot faster than us. But everyone on set thought it was hilarious. They had they had they had no sympathy for us whatsoever. And it became the talk of the set that day and we came on and it was like, we could have we could have died. But no.

No scenes for episode two. The ones in Blenham that were pretty fun to shoot, the ones in the hats. I love that because I love those Hans, but also that again they were they were interesting establishing scenes where you you become aware of the inherent competitiveness that exists in rens In Reynolds and are everyone from the hashtag rounds.

No scenes for episode two. The ones in Blenham that were pretty fun to shoot, the ones in the hats. I love that because I love those Hans, but also that again they were they were interesting establishing scenes where you you become aware of the inherent competitiveness that exists in rens In Reynolds and are everyone from the hashtag rounds.

I love it.

I love it.

It's better than brim Noles, or.

It's better than brim Noles, or.

It could be Brens and it's like like Brenoles brothers.

It could be Brens and it's like like Brenoles brothers.

Yeah, Brenolds is better than I said, brim Noles. What am I doing?

Yeah, Brenolds is better than I said, brim Noles. What am I doing?

Where did that cut?

Where did that cut?

Brim Noless, brim Sli, I'm just going to stop.

Brim Noless, brim Sli, I'm just going to stop.

Well, we'll ask the listeners.

Well, we'll ask the listeners.

Yeah, the listeners will make their decision that's a silly idea.

Yeah, the listeners will make their decision that's a silly idea.

They probably they will, They will decide very quickly. I'm sure of it. Yeah, because the scenes with the two of you are really really remarkable, and you just really do deliver that layer of life that the entire series really does give us. You allow us to really go into the story further.

They probably they will, They will decide very quickly. I'm sure of it. Yeah, because the scenes with the two of you are really really remarkable, and you just really do deliver that layer of life that the entire series really does give us. You allow us to really go into the story further.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, it was really fun to watch.

Yeah, it was really fun to watch.

Thank you very much.

Thank you very much.

Well, I'm glad you enjoyed watching it, because I think I found it very very terrifying. But I do now like watching it. I assure you.

Well, I'm glad you enjoyed watching it, because I think I found it very very terrifying. But I do now like watching it. I assure you.

I'm sure you're not alone. Tom Verica told me that actor Hugh Sachs, who plays present day Brimsley, Yeah, spent the day with you two to watch episode six. I guess the dancing moment on top of the Hill.

I'm sure you're not alone. Tom Verica told me that actor Hugh Sachs, who plays present day Brimsley, Yeah, spent the day with you two to watch episode six. I guess the dancing moment on top of the Hill.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Can you tell me a little more about working with Jack Murphy on that moment.

Can you tell me a little more about working with Jack Murphy on that moment.

Well, firstly, Hugh is amazing. We love Hugh. It was brilliant having him there as a friend first and foremost and as a colleague. The whole dancing preparation was one of my favorite things about the entire show because it was unlike anything I at least had ever done before. I think it taps into Brimsley's and Reynolds's vulnerabilities in a way that actually a scene where they were speaking probably couldn't have done. And it almost feels like a moment of unadulterated joy that neither them have had up until this point in the series. Working with Jack was amazing, and I will be forever grateful to Jack for his patients because I am not a mover, but I do think I can now just about do it. But actually, one of my favorite things about watching that scene is there is a moment where there is a definite mistake on behalf of me think or maybe both of us, and we both slightly think it was both. We both giggle and it made it in because I think, and that's lovely because it just shows how much fun we were having as actors. But also I think that's very true to what the moment would have been for Bremsley and Reynolds, where they go, hey, we've done it, you and me, you and me.

Well, firstly, Hugh is amazing. We love Hugh. It was brilliant having him there as a friend first and foremost and as a colleague. The whole dancing preparation was one of my favorite things about the entire show because it was unlike anything I at least had ever done before. I think it taps into Brimsley's and Reynolds's vulnerabilities in a way that actually a scene where they were speaking probably couldn't have done. And it almost feels like a moment of unadulterated joy that neither them have had up until this point in the series. Working with Jack was amazing, and I will be forever grateful to Jack for his patients because I am not a mover, but I do think I can now just about do it. But actually, one of my favorite things about watching that scene is there is a moment where there is a definite mistake on behalf of me think or maybe both of us, and we both slightly think it was both. We both giggle and it made it in because I think, and that's lovely because it just shows how much fun we were having as actors. But also I think that's very true to what the moment would have been for Bremsley and Reynolds, where they go, hey, we've done it, you and me, you and me.

And the idea that they get to like steal five minutes ten minutes together because it's never more than that, and you know, they get this opportunity to have a very intimate moment away from everybody else, and it's it's exactly what Freddie has said. It's that it's them feeling complete and utter joy and entirely themselves and not having the weight of the rest of the world on their shoulders. They can just be present with each other. Because we shot that very late on in a night shoot. It was the last day at Blendon Palace and we were shooting it like quarter past through in the morning, so we were shooting cortpas thro in the morning. We were wrapping at four and we had to do our scene and then we had to do Hughes bit of the dance as well, and then they were like, Freddie, we want you to do a little bit of dancing with Hugh leading up to the take as well. So we're all just sort of being thrown around dancing with each other. So having time with Hugh and Jack and the two of us in rehearsals was invaluable because it meant that not only could Hugh and Freddie start to learn each other's bodies, but I could also start to learn Hugh's body as well, because part of my way into the character was the physicality that he has and how he holds himself at the end of that shot, after he has danced. I know it was just speaks a thousand words as to who Reynolds is to Brimsley.

And the idea that they get to like steal five minutes ten minutes together because it's never more than that, and you know, they get this opportunity to have a very intimate moment away from everybody else, and it's it's exactly what Freddie has said. It's that it's them feeling complete and utter joy and entirely themselves and not having the weight of the rest of the world on their shoulders. They can just be present with each other. Because we shot that very late on in a night shoot. It was the last day at Blendon Palace and we were shooting it like quarter past through in the morning, so we were shooting cortpas thro in the morning. We were wrapping at four and we had to do our scene and then we had to do Hughes bit of the dance as well, and then they were like, Freddie, we want you to do a little bit of dancing with Hugh leading up to the take as well. So we're all just sort of being thrown around dancing with each other. So having time with Hugh and Jack and the two of us in rehearsals was invaluable because it meant that not only could Hugh and Freddie start to learn each other's bodies, but I could also start to learn Hugh's body as well, because part of my way into the character was the physicality that he has and how he holds himself at the end of that shot, after he has danced. I know it was just speaks a thousand words as to who Reynolds is to Brimsley.

It is heartbreaking, It is completely heartbreaking.

It is heartbreaking, It is completely heartbreaking.

It is everyone's going to wonder what happened? What happened?

It is everyone's going to wonder what happened? What happened?

He's on holiday.

He's on holiday.

He's on a very very long holiday. Where's he gone.

He's on a very very long holiday. Where's he gone.

He's on a beach somewhere. He's on a beach. Okay, great, I think the Maldives probably, yeah, okay, what's.

He's on a beach somewhere. He's on a beach. Okay, great, I think the Maldives probably, yeah, okay, what's.

The capital of the Maldives?

The capital of the Maldives?

Marley or Marhe.

Marley or Marhe.

Freddie, what was your leap from geography to this world?

Freddie, what was your leap from geography to this world?

I have always wanted to be an actor, but I I will put it down to a lack of self confidence. I didn't allow myself to start before me until I was twenty three years old, because the thought of it excited me, but it also completely terrified me. So I you know, I told myself, next year older, next year older, when I go to UNI, I'll do And then I left UNI with a degree in geography and went, am I going to I've never acted? How have I not done this? And I just went, Fred, you have to take the plunges now or never, And I just knew I would love it, So I went to Gramma School and then four months later I'm Reynolds. But it was a pretty terrifying leap. And who knows, maybe I will end up as a geography teacher one day. We'll see.

I have always wanted to be an actor, but I I will put it down to a lack of self confidence. I didn't allow myself to start before me until I was twenty three years old, because the thought of it excited me, but it also completely terrified me. So I you know, I told myself, next year older, next year older, when I go to UNI, I'll do And then I left UNI with a degree in geography and went, am I going to I've never acted? How have I not done this? And I just went, Fred, you have to take the plunges now or never, And I just knew I would love it, So I went to Gramma School and then four months later I'm Reynolds. But it was a pretty terrifying leap. And who knows, maybe I will end up as a geography teacher one day. We'll see.

I mean, it can happen.

I mean, it can happen.

Maybe your next role is a geography teacher in a blockbuster movie.

Maybe your next role is a geography teacher in a blockbuster movie.

I think that's what everyone wants to see.

I think that's what everyone wants to see.

Yeah, that's what I want to see.

Yeah, that's what I want to see.

Stick around. There's more with Sam Clement and Freddie Dennis. They're going to be sharing tales from their auditions right after this. Before we jump back into our discussion, take a listen to what Kelly Valentine Hendry had to say about casting with these two actors.

Stick around. There's more with Sam Clement and Freddie Dennis. They're going to be sharing tales from their auditions right after this. Before we jump back into our discussion, take a listen to what Kelly Valentine Hendry had to say about casting with these two actors.

What was really great at the read through, because we didn't get a chance to chemistry them, was when we had lovely Freddie Dennis and Sam Clement. So when he and Sam at the read through, we realized, oh my goodness, there's super proper sparking chemistry there. That was really glorious to walk away and say, we've absolutely got that right.

What was really great at the read through, because we didn't get a chance to chemistry them, was when we had lovely Freddie Dennis and Sam Clement. So when he and Sam at the read through, we realized, oh my goodness, there's super proper sparking chemistry there. That was really glorious to walk away and say, we've absolutely got that right.

That was Kelly Valentine Henry, casting director of Queen Charlotte at Bridgerton Story wasn't that interesting. I mean, you would have never guessed. Right. Well, we've got more from Sam and Freddy on their auditions and memories from the early days of the project, early early days of joining the project. Let's get back into our conversation, Sam, were there any full circle moments for you? You know, Queen Charlotte. A Bridgerton story has a ton of flash forwards in the way Shondaland knows how to do a good flash forward. I was wondering if you had any moments in your life or your career that kind of feel full circle.

That was Kelly Valentine Henry, casting director of Queen Charlotte at Bridgerton Story wasn't that interesting. I mean, you would have never guessed. Right. Well, we've got more from Sam and Freddy on their auditions and memories from the early days of the project, early early days of joining the project. Let's get back into our conversation, Sam, were there any full circle moments for you? You know, Queen Charlotte. A Bridgerton story has a ton of flash forwards in the way Shondaland knows how to do a good flash forward. I was wondering if you had any moments in your life or your career that kind of feel full circle.

It related to this show totally. I have auditioned for the Bridgington World. I think it's four or five times before getting this part, more than any like long running series. I auditioned in twenty nineteen for one of the leading parts in Bridgeston, and then off the back of that had read for like various guest parts here and there, and then read four. The initial tape for this was a scene from Bridgeston. No one quite knew what they were reading for, and then eventually the audition for the Brimsley came around. I was like, oh my god, maybe this is the fifth time. Now I just went like, you know what what will be will be? I know the world. I'm not going to put all of my energy into this basket and trying to make this work, and did it very relaxed tape and lo and behold got the job. So that became a very full circle moment for me in my career and with this particular job as well. It was four years in the making.

It related to this show totally. I have auditioned for the Bridgington World. I think it's four or five times before getting this part, more than any like long running series. I auditioned in twenty nineteen for one of the leading parts in Bridgeston, and then off the back of that had read for like various guest parts here and there, and then read four. The initial tape for this was a scene from Bridgeston. No one quite knew what they were reading for, and then eventually the audition for the Brimsley came around. I was like, oh my god, maybe this is the fifth time. Now I just went like, you know what what will be will be? I know the world. I'm not going to put all of my energy into this basket and trying to make this work, and did it very relaxed tape and lo and behold got the job. So that became a very full circle moment for me in my career and with this particular job as well. It was four years in the making.

Wow, Relaxation is the key.

Wow, Relaxation is the key.

Relaxation is the key. But also I don't know if I've told anyone this. I was offered a smaller part in series two of Bridgington and it would come off the back of the pandemic and work was pretty sparse for everyone. And cue as to my agent as well, for very good agent thing here he went, So they've offered you this. It's like three lines, and that would be great obviously, but they love you a lot for this world, and I think it's worth just holding off to see if something else comes down the line. And if I'd have taken that role, I would never have been able to read and do Brimsley.

Relaxation is the key. But also I don't know if I've told anyone this. I was offered a smaller part in series two of Bridgington and it would come off the back of the pandemic and work was pretty sparse for everyone. And cue as to my agent as well, for very good agent thing here he went, So they've offered you this. It's like three lines, and that would be great obviously, but they love you a lot for this world, and I think it's worth just holding off to see if something else comes down the line. And if I'd have taken that role, I would never have been able to read and do Brimsley.

Oh okay, well, thank goodness, because I don't think I'm alone when I'm like, of course, that's young Brimsley, Like, we spoke with Kelly Valentine Henry and just so you know, she was like, oh yeah, within the first three minutes we knew who was was going to be, which whatever role they played, So I'm so happy. Tell me about your first encounter with the actual first scenes that we see you in. I think that's the five steps behind on the steps.

Oh okay, well, thank goodness, because I don't think I'm alone when I'm like, of course, that's young Brimsley, Like, we spoke with Kelly Valentine Henry and just so you know, she was like, oh yeah, within the first three minutes we knew who was was going to be, which whatever role they played, So I'm so happy. Tell me about your first encounter with the actual first scenes that we see you in. I think that's the five steps behind on the steps.

Right, Sam, Yeah, on the staircase.

Right, Sam, Yeah, on the staircase.

Just really funny was that exchange between you and ye Charlotte?

Just really funny was that exchange between you and ye Charlotte?

It is really funny. I first encountered that scene in the audition. That was the audition scene.

It is really funny. I first encountered that scene in the audition. That was the audition scene.

Same for me.

Same for me.

Because that's what you used as well. Of course. Yeah, we were well into the end of block one, so we've been shooting for like six or seven weeks, and I sat with this dialogue for so long and I felt like I knew the ins and out of it so much that when it got round to it and India was felt the same. We then suddenly got so incredibly nervous, even though we knew that scene like the back of our hand. And then I just put all of this pressure on myself, like I think this might be a bit stale and it needs to be snappy, It needs to be funny. It's the first time we meet him, so when it came to doing it, it took me a while of me to on that one.

Because that's what you used as well. Of course. Yeah, we were well into the end of block one, so we've been shooting for like six or seven weeks, and I sat with this dialogue for so long and I felt like I knew the ins and out of it so much that when it got round to it and India was felt the same. We then suddenly got so incredibly nervous, even though we knew that scene like the back of our hand. And then I just put all of this pressure on myself, like I think this might be a bit stale and it needs to be snappy, It needs to be funny. It's the first time we meet him, so when it came to doing it, it took me a while of me to on that one.

Your delivery is so good so as India's. It's almost flippant, like is Brimsley being a little smart.

Your delivery is so good so as India's. It's almost flippant, like is Brimsley being a little smart.

You know what?

You know what?

You know?

You know?

It was really really funny.

It was really really funny.

He's just like, he's just like, just do your job, just do your job. Just don't mess up, Just don't mess up. And she's making this very very hard. Just don't mess up. And then when she starts talking about the king, he's like, well, that's a kind of worms I don't want to open. He's the king, he's this, he's that. Please stop talking to me.

He's just like, he's just like, just do your job, just do your job. Just don't mess up, Just don't mess up. And she's making this very very hard. Just don't mess up. And then when she starts talking about the king, he's like, well, that's a kind of worms I don't want to open. He's the king, he's this, he's that. Please stop talking to me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's the moment you say those are facts, you're mad. I'm like, okay, this is this is going to be an interesting relationship.

I think it's the moment you say those are facts, you're mad. I'm like, okay, this is this is going to be an interesting relationship.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, Freddie, a lot of first experiences for you on this project. Do you have any favorite firsts or do you have any favorite scenes?

So, Freddie, a lot of first experiences for you on this project. Do you have any favorite firsts or do you have any favorite scenes?

Well? I love the scene where I'm riding the horse.

Well? I love the scene where I'm riding the horse.

That's tell me about tell me about shooting that scene.

That's tell me about tell me about shooting that scene.

Oh my goodness, it was I was completely terrified.

Oh my goodness, it was I was completely terrified.

I was there. I had to come down and watch it. I couldn't not present for it.

I was there. I had to come down and watch it. I couldn't not present for it.

I think everyone came and watched it. They prepped me for it for months, which is funny because it was only a sort of ten second scene. But obviously I'm not wearing a helmet. But I was absolutely terrified. I was on this lovely horse. They kept saying he was lovely called Mufassa, and they went, Vassa is definitely not scared of drones, and I went, well, I'm a bit scared of drums, you know. But every time this drone went up in the air, Mufassa would freak out and kind of start moving loads like that, listeners and moving quite a lot. And I have to kick him twice to tell him to go, and he would just take off. And I was also aware because people found it slightly ridiculous that I was on a horse. I Freddie was on a horse. Everyone was watching, so I had to try and play it as cool as I could. A boy, was I sweating?

I think everyone came and watched it. They prepped me for it for months, which is funny because it was only a sort of ten second scene. But obviously I'm not wearing a helmet. But I was absolutely terrified. I was on this lovely horse. They kept saying he was lovely called Mufassa, and they went, Vassa is definitely not scared of drones, and I went, well, I'm a bit scared of drums, you know. But every time this drone went up in the air, Mufassa would freak out and kind of start moving loads like that, listeners and moving quite a lot. And I have to kick him twice to tell him to go, and he would just take off. And I was also aware because people found it slightly ridiculous that I was on a horse. I Freddie was on a horse. Everyone was watching, so I had to try and play it as cool as I could. A boy, was I sweating?

You smashed it though? It went very well?

You smashed it though? It went very well?

Yeah it did. I'm glad I wasn't wearing a heart rate thing.

Yeah it did. I'm glad I wasn't wearing a heart rate thing.

Oh Sam, I don't remember if you had any scenes like that, or you were on horseback. Or dealing with other animals. Oh, you had the Pomeranian all the time?

Oh Sam, I don't remember if you had any scenes like that, or you were on horseback. Or dealing with other animals. Oh, you had the Pomeranian all the time?

I have the Pomeranian pomp.

I have the Pomeranian pomp.

Yes, how was that? And also with your costumes? How did you manage that?

Yes, how was that? And also with your costumes? How did you manage that?

I mean it was she was sort of extraordinary. I think she was, like I think she was about fifteen weeks old when we started, because they needed a puppy, and I was like, oh God, this is going to be hard work. But she was the best behaved puppy I think I've ever met in my life. She would occasionally fall asleep while I was acting, which I think is, you know, quite an aggressive reaction towards my performance, and therefore and I will stole my scenes.

I mean it was she was sort of extraordinary. I think she was, like I think she was about fifteen weeks old when we started, because they needed a puppy, and I was like, oh God, this is going to be hard work. But she was the best behaved puppy I think I've ever met in my life. She would occasionally fall asleep while I was acting, which I think is, you know, quite an aggressive reaction towards my performance, and therefore and I will stole my scenes.

So is there anything else that she'd like to to say about your challenges onset or challenges with the material or anything that you overcame throughout the process.

So is there anything else that she'd like to to say about your challenges onset or challenges with the material or anything that you overcame throughout the process.

For me, sometimes scenes can get changed, you know, and adapted last minute to suit the story as best as they can. So I like to sit with dialogue for at least three or four days before doing a scene, and occasionally things might get changed last minute because there's a better version of this of a particular scene. And learning dialogue quite quickly, I find quite hard sometimes because I like to feel very relaxed with the scenes and with the dialogue, and I think for something for me that I'm trying to get better at is being able to turn over the dialogue very very quickly. What about you, Fred, I think for me, I learned an awful lot about the importance of remaining confident and believing in yourself. And there's a particular moment on set that happened very very early on actually, in one of those scenes at Blenham in episode two when Sam You'll remember it, because I was very in my head and I felt like I was doing a terrible job, and we eventually got the shot. I'd struggled a bit and Tom came up to me and he went it really gently, in a lovely way. He went, Freddie, just remember that this is really really fun, and I went.

For me, sometimes scenes can get changed, you know, and adapted last minute to suit the story as best as they can. So I like to sit with dialogue for at least three or four days before doing a scene, and occasionally things might get changed last minute because there's a better version of this of a particular scene. And learning dialogue quite quickly, I find quite hard sometimes because I like to feel very relaxed with the scenes and with the dialogue, and I think for something for me that I'm trying to get better at is being able to turn over the dialogue very very quickly. What about you, Fred, I think for me, I learned an awful lot about the importance of remaining confident and believing in yourself. And there's a particular moment on set that happened very very early on actually, in one of those scenes at Blenham in episode two when Sam You'll remember it, because I was very in my head and I felt like I was doing a terrible job, and we eventually got the shot. I'd struggled a bit and Tom came up to me and he went it really gently, in a lovely way. He went, Freddie, just remember that this is really really fun, and I went.

Yeah, You're You're so right. What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to do the perfect job, and that's that's putting me in my head and inhibiting me from doing my best work. So from that day I went and wrote about it in my little diary, and from that day forth, every day I would try and remind myself. Yes, this is intimidating. Yes, I feel like I could be doing better. But it's a journey, and b it's an incredibly fun journey.

Yeah, You're You're so right. What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to do the perfect job, and that's that's putting me in my head and inhibiting me from doing my best work. So from that day I went and wrote about it in my little diary, and from that day forth, every day I would try and remind myself. Yes, this is intimidating. Yes, I feel like I could be doing better. But it's a journey, and b it's an incredibly fun journey.

That's so good. That's so good.

That's so good. That's so good.

I haven't properly learned it yet and it's I'm still on that journey.

I haven't properly learned it yet and it's I'm still on that journey.

Easier said than done. Right, that's so great.

Easier said than done. Right, that's so great.

Anyone's got any tips.

Anyone's got any tips.

To please let me know and use the hashtag.

To please let me know and use the hashtag.

Bremsley Breynolds, Bremsley, Bremsley, Brimsley.

Bremsley Breynolds, Bremsley, Bremsley, Brimsley.

No Reynolds in Bremsley.

No Reynolds in Bremsley.

No, it's not, it's not.

No, it's not, it's not.

In the initial audition that we both both did, Brimsley wasn't called Brimsley, he was called Bosley.

In the initial audition that we both both did, Brimsley wasn't called Brimsley, he was called Bosley.

Yeah, oh I thought it was Bosely.

Yeah, oh I thought it was Bosely.

Oh, you said, well, I clearly got Reynolds because I said, Bosley, you.

Oh, you said, well, I clearly got Reynolds because I said, Bosley, you.

Were basically talking down to me already, and you didn't realize. I think you were saying that because the other audition scene was the one in the in the chapel when I've lost the queen on the day of of their of their wedding and I come in and go, we've got a problem. The bride's missing, and you go, what have you done?

Were basically talking down to me already, and you didn't realize. I think you were saying that because the other audition scene was the one in the in the chapel when I've lost the queen on the day of of their of their wedding and I come in and go, we've got a problem. The bride's missing, and you go, what have you done?

Now?

Now?

Brimsley and it's so condescending, and you were like, I think that's what's got me the part.

Brimsley and it's so condescending, and you were like, I think that's what's got me the part.

Well, yes, did you have any other last thoughts before we wrap up?

Well, yes, did you have any other last thoughts before we wrap up?

I genuinely think everyone is utterly brilliant in this show, and I can't wait for everyone to see the casts extraordinary work.

I genuinely think everyone is utterly brilliant in this show, and I can't wait for everyone to see the casts extraordinary work.

Absolutely, Yes, you both were brilliant on screen.

Absolutely, Yes, you both were brilliant on screen.

I hope people enjoy watching it as much as we enjoyed making it because it Yeah. I don't know about for you, Sam, but for me, it was possibly the best thing I have ever done.

I hope people enjoy watching it as much as we enjoyed making it because it Yeah. I don't know about for you, Sam, but for me, it was possibly the best thing I have ever done.

Yeah, totally, I loved.

Yeah, totally, I loved.

It, Sam, Clement, Freddie Dennis, thank you so much for your time today.

It, Sam, Clement, Freddie Dennis, thank you so much for your time today.

Thank you, thank you very much.

Thank you, thank you very much.

I'm imagining applause effects here right now, because these two actors recognized the space Shonda Rhymes carved out for their characters, and they dug in. They came off the page in a way Brimsley and Reynolds come off the wall. Okay, stay with me, the way they come off the wall as servants and step outside of their roles to care for Charlotte and George as friends. And you heard them. That's how they thought of their characters too. I mean, could you imagine Charlotte's story without Brimsley. Think about it, If these walls could talk, That's what I think of when I think of Brimsley and Reynolds, if these walls could talk. And that's also what I loved about Chorl. Peyvan said, Deeguian was brilliant as Chorl, that familiar homegirl bestie vibe. You know. Shonda Rhimes wrote a voice that lit up a part of young Agathus's life that could have been really lonely, and she tapped into Charlotte and the King in the same way through Brimsley and Reynolds. Shawna's way of crafting the dance of relationships is amazing. Speaking of dance, on our next episode, choreographer Jack Murphy joins us.

I'm imagining applause effects here right now, because these two actors recognized the space Shonda Rhymes carved out for their characters, and they dug in. They came off the page in a way Brimsley and Reynolds come off the wall. Okay, stay with me, the way they come off the wall as servants and step outside of their roles to care for Charlotte and George as friends. And you heard them. That's how they thought of their characters too. I mean, could you imagine Charlotte's story without Brimsley. Think about it, If these walls could talk, That's what I think of when I think of Brimsley and Reynolds, if these walls could talk. And that's also what I loved about Chorl. Peyvan said, Deeguian was brilliant as Chorl, that familiar homegirl bestie vibe. You know. Shonda Rhimes wrote a voice that lit up a part of young Agathus's life that could have been really lonely, and she tapped into Charlotte and the King in the same way through Brimsley and Reynolds. Shawna's way of crafting the dance of relationships is amazing. Speaking of dance, on our next episode, choreographer Jack Murphy joins us.

Many years ago, when the Queen Mother died, my mother and I we went to see her lying in state and seeing the four gods standing protecting That's where I drew the parallel from those four couples either side of Charlotte George, so they're not just dancing, but they're protecting the jewel of the.

Many years ago, when the Queen Mother died, my mother and I we went to see her lying in state and seeing the four gods standing protecting That's where I drew the parallel from those four couples either side of Charlotte George, so they're not just dancing, but they're protecting the jewel of the.

Crown and another special treat. Executive producer Betsy Bears will also visit us on the next episode. You definitely don't want to miss. Queen Charlotte. The Official Podcast is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Lauren Homan, alex Alja Tyler Klang, and me Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is Tarry Harrison. Subscribe to the podcast anywhere you get your favorite shows. Get the book I'm a Crispy Turn the page, Smell the Binding kind of Queen. But you can download it and you can find Queen Charlotte, a Bridgeton story on Netflix. We'll see you next week. Queen Charlotte. The Official Podcast is a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

Crown and another special treat. Executive producer Betsy Bears will also visit us on the next episode. You definitely don't want to miss. Queen Charlotte. The Official Podcast is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Lauren Homan, alex Alja Tyler Klang, and me Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is Tarry Harrison. Subscribe to the podcast anywhere you get your favorite shows. Get the book I'm a Crispy Turn the page, Smell the Binding kind of Queen. But you can download it and you can find Queen Charlotte, a Bridgeton story on Netflix. We'll see you next week. Queen Charlotte. The Official Podcast is a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.