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As you guys know, we've started this new partnership with the Daily Poster in order to elevate some of their original journalism. You all know they do incredible work over there. Following the money, telling the real story of how to decisions get made in Washington. Now, normally we talked to David Serota, but the Daily Poster is way more than just David Serota. We have one of their great reporters on this morning, Julia Rock has got a couple of news stories we want to get too. Great to see Julia. Good to see Julia, Thanks for having me. So you have a piece doun about former Chicago mayor Rom Emmanuel, everybody's favorite, and you detail what you describe. We can throw this tears sheet up on the screen as the corporate funded rehabilitation of Rom Emmanuel, and effectively what you do here is break down the money that he's taken from various corporate interests, how that has potentially impacted some of the commentary that he has offered in mainstream outlets. And also, by the way, the fact that none of those mainstream outlets ever disclosed that he had these very direct conflicts of interest. Just break down for us what you found. Yeah, So, after Emmanuel left the Mayor's office in Chicago in twenty nineteen, he got a job with ABC News as an it as well as a couple of smaller gigs, writing op eds for places like Politico, The Washington Post. He had a really short stint at The Atlantic as a contributing editor, and during that time between twenty nineteen and when he was nominated for the ambassadorship to Japan a couple of months ago, a manual just kind of trashed key progressive policies such as Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, as of mainstream positions within the Democratic Party, such as raising the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour, something that Kamala Harris and President Joe Biden both support, making college more affordable and accessible. And during that time when he was writing those op eds and appearing on ABC News to disparage progressives, he was also making quite a bit of money working for an investment banking advisory firm called Center View Partners. He made about like twelve and a half million dollars during the two years between being in office and being nominated for the ambassadorship. And we looked through the deals that that firm was working on during that time, and as it turns out, a lot of those deals were with major pharmaceutical companies and fossil fuel companies. So some companies would be familiar, such as Giliad, which manufactured the government funded COVID treatment drug, as well as Pacific asim Electric, the utility in California. So these are companies that are involved in lobbying against the policies that Emmanuel was trashing on TV and in the pages of mainstream publications. And you know, like you said, it was never disclosed that he was taking in money from this firm and working on these deals while he was writing those offense and going on those tiraids. It is wild. I mean, twelve million, that's good work if you can get it. And what I'm really looking at here was that not what you're pointing to in the disclosure is that during that exact time, whenever he was in the media, this investment deals that they were working on were directly impacted by policies he was discussing. Is that right? Can you say more about that? Yeah, I mean the Gilliad pharmaceutical deal that you guys point to, just explain that a little bit got you. Yeah, So, so policies that he is on TV talking about exactly are policies that would directly, you know, affect these companies and the things they're working on. So Medicare for all is a is a good example. I think you know, not a lot of people necessarily know this, but but some of the biggest lobbying and lobbying money against Medicare for All has been from the pharmaceutical companies. And you know, the same goes for a Green New Deal, which is less of a specific policy but kind of a collection of climate policies and utilities again have been really important kind of sources of money for lobbying efforts against climate action. So yeah, again, these are these policies he's talking about would kind of directly affect these companies. It's not some like tangential or down the road impact. Julie, you also have a news story out this morning about Look, we've focused here a lot on the fact that Democrats since two thousand and six have promised to work on this time. We're really going to do it, guys. We're going to negotiate with these prescription drug companies to get you lower prices. Something that is such a no brain or something like eighty to ninety percent of the American people supported, and yet for all of these decades they failed to get it done. But you point to there are other mechanisms that the Biden administration could use to lower pharmaceutical drug prices. So far they have not pursued those avenues, but just lay out for us what tools are on the table for them. Yeah. So one of the mean tools at the Biden administration's disposal is called march in rights, which is something that a couple of senators have really been pressuring the Biden administration to take on as well as as we reported today, you know, Biden's current Health and Human secretary, Health and Human Services Secretary has long supported the federal government doing this, and march in rights is basically a tool that the federal government has if a government subsidized patent. So an example of this would be the COVID vaccines. We know that those vaccines were developed using patents that were funded with government research. If you know, if there's a product that was developed using a government subsidized patent and the company that has that patent isn't kind of distributing the product in a reasonable way or pricing it in a reasonable way, the government can essentially say you're not using this patent correctly, We're going to give another manufacture the right to produce this product, and this is something that can be used to lower drug prices. The Trump administration was opposed to using it to lower drug prices and issued kind of an eleventh hour rule to prevent the federal government from doing that. But that rule, which is now actually sitting in the Commerce Department under Secretary Genio Romando, could be rescinded. So the Biden administration could essentially rescind that Trump rule that prevents marchin rights from being used to lower drug prices, as well as kind of deploy marching rights to go in and start licensing these patents to other manufacturers to lower prices. And what has AHHS Secretary Bassara said on this in the past. So, yeah, there are a couple of vacations where he's really pressured the federal government to use these rights. During the Obama administration, he was one of a group of Congress people to pressure the Obama administration to use marching rights to lower drug prices. And then again as recently as last year when he was Attorney General of California, he petitioned Trump HHS Secretary Alex Azar to use marching rights to make the gillad treatment drug for COVID that I was talking about earlier, more acceptable to a broader population. Wow, seems like another candidate would be If this merk pill for COVID ultimately pans out, they're wanting to charge like four hundred percent of what it costs to make. This is again another drug that was developed using government public funding, so US taxpayer funded the development and then the company turns around and charges four hundred percent of what it costs to make in a gigantic price gouging scheme that bide administration could do something about it, but so far they had chosen not too. Julia, thank you so much for breaking down these great reports that you have out this morning. And listen, guys, we give the pitch every week, but you and the whole team over there at the Daily Poster are doing such great work actually focusing on the stories that matter in DC, the money that flows through this town and create some of the messes that we ultimately see. So if you guys are able, make sure you go over and subscribe to the Daily Poster so that you can be informed about all of those things straight away. Julia, thank you so much for your time this morning. Thank you, Julia, Thank you. A lot of people watch with great interest doctor Sanjay Gupta over at CNN appearing on the Joe Rogan Podcast. Both Christal and I listen to the entire thing. I recommend that you all go do so as well. Joe actually presses Sanjay Gupta hard on the case for vaccination. Sanjay Gupta does a good job of laying out what I would say the most reasonable pro vaccine case there is. Joe does a good job of representing the other side. Regardless, we need to see a lot more of that in our media, people who are actually engaging with one another. It was a very respectful conversation. There was one part though, that we had to pull out. We were going to wait until Friday in order to post this, but because you know, there's so much interest, and I think we'll go ahead and post it today on Thursday. For those of you who are watching, Joe is grilling Sanjay Gupta on remember CNN's decision in order to call ivermectin horse d wormer, specifically in reference to Rogan after he got sick, and Joe really grills him and gets Sanjay Gupta to admit that CNN made a mistake and should not have said what they said. One of the rarest things you're ever going to see. Let's take a listen. By the way, I'm glad you're you're better that. You're probably the only one at CNN that's glad. No, no, no, no. The rest of them are all lying about meeting horks medication and we should talk about that. That bothered you. It should bother you too. We're lying at your network about people taking human drugs versus drugs at a horse to wormer. Not a flattering thing. I guess that's a lie. It's a lie on a news network, and it's a lie. That's a willing that's that's a lie that they're conscious of. It's not a mistake. They're unfavorably framing it as veterinary medicine. Well, the FDA put this thing out. You saw that. Did you see the thing that the FDA put out? What did the FDA put out? It was a tweet and it was snarky, I admit it. They said, you are not a horse, you are not a cow. Stop taking this stuff or something like that. Why would you say that when you're talking about a drug that's been given out to billions and billions of people, A drug that was responsible for one of the inventors of it making the Nobel Pride a Nobel Prize in twenty fifteen eighteen. Yeah. Yeah, a drug that has been shown to stop viral replication in vitro. You know that, right? Why would they lie and say that's horsty wentwerre. I can afford people medicine. Motherfucker, This is ridiculous. It's just a lot that anyone is thicking. But don't you think that a lie like that is dangerous on a news network when you know that they know they're lying. You know that they know that I took medicine. Like here it is, this is iro you got right here. Somebody gave it to me, right, hang out? I do. The thing is We're like going so fast, like I feel like I'm missing I'm missing youth. I want that. That's a problem that your news networks. Well, I don't. I don't, dude. What did they say? They lied? They say I was taking horse de warmer. First of all, it was prescribed to me by a doctor along if you got a human pill, because there were people that were taking it the veterinary medication and you're not. Obviously you got it from a doctor, so that it shouldn't be called that. I remectin can be a very effective medication for parasitic disease. And as you say, it's probably you know, I think what a quarter billion people have taken it around the world. I get that way more so, way more pillions of people have taken it. Can I just come back to the one I want to talk about it you have before we get to that. Does it bother you that the news network you work for, out and out Lied was outright lied about me taking horse de Warmer. They they shouldn't have said that. Why did they do that? I don't know. You didn't ask. I didn't think that you're the guy over there. I didn't ask. I should have asked before No show I watched, I watched, I watched, watch No. I don't think there's yes. I don't No one takes taking livestock drug despite warnings. Yeah, Jamie had to pull this up. I want to play it. She does network. I'm going to watch. I'm going to watch. He then goes on to play Aaron, describing it as I think she's his veterinary medication. He also references Brian Stelter, who had said, when you have a horsty warming medication that's discouraged by the government, actually causes some people in this crazed environment we're into actually want to try it. That's the upside down world we're in with figures like Joe Rogan so lost someone to watch that was You're never going to see that. You're just never going to see well. And again, I want to give both of these men credit correct for engaging. And you should really listen to the whole conversation because it is actually fascinating. They go through the different studies on ivermactin, they talk about myocarditis and the incidents among young boy I mean, they really go through it all, and it is extraordinarily important and I think good to listen to. And so little of that dialogue has happened in American discourse. But to this moment right here, you see Joe's like fighter instinct. Gupta is on the ropes and he is not He's not gonna let him out. Yea, he had changed that. Well, this is coming so festive. Let a you're talking. He's like no, no, no, no no, no, no no. Why did they say it's why did they lie and say it's Horsey Warmer? And he makes this really important point and at another point, because this went on for quite a while or the like ten minutes, and recurring came up a couple times throughout the podcast, because not because Joe like cares about his own like ego or whatever, but because it's really important that people feel like a news network being straight with them. And so he draws the connection of Okay, well, if they're gonna lie about this thing which is easily checkable and like obviously untrue, what else are they lying about? Are they lying about Syria? Are they lying about Afghanistan? Are they lying about Russia? Like what other Hunter Biden, whatever it is? How do we trust these other things that you're asserting with similar levels of confidence when something so easily checked you're just outright wrong about. Yeah, and Sonjai didn't have an answer. Like, I've actually met Sanjay Gupti is a really nice guy. I can say that, and I do actually think he's a genuinely honest actor. Remember he's the one who asked doctor Fauci about natural immunity. Yeah, he's the one who did the documentary on the origins of COVID, and he got doctor Robert Redfield, the CDC director, to tell him about the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and he's the one who is very open to the idea of a lab. Leak talked about gain of function research. Some of the primary source materials that I have used to talk about lableik come from Sanjay Gupta, so that is on the table being said. Sanja did not have a good answer. And when Joe was like, do you understand how when people see this, how do I know you're telling the truth about Hunter Biden, Russia, putin or anything else? He said, do you understand that? And look, I get it Sanjay Gupta. I mean he's been on TV since like before I was born, and I would really say, like, hey, it's a he is not representative of everything that's wrong at CNN. But he didn't really have a good answer. There is no answer. And answer is yes, I understand that, and I think it's upsetting obviously can't say that right, And I you know, I was a little upset this morning because I woke up. I thought the conversation was great and group to put out this kind of op ed where he talks about and he's like, well, you know, some of my friends told me not to do this, and it was very much like a signaling to the elite circle of the world, like, oh, well, you know I had to do this because you know, talking to Joe Rogan like here's why I have to justify it. He rolled this whole op ed. Dude, you don't have to justify anything. You're on the number one podcast show in the country. You have a book to sell. That's easy, not justification. Number one. Number two is if we can't even talk to somebody, what's the point The guy's a doctor. If you want to talk about somebody who is going to have the best case, like the best case for the vaccine against somebody with some honest questions about it, why do you have to write this whole sob like, here's why I did it, Here's why it was important. Dude. Of course it's important. You probably reach more people there than you ever did on CNN. Yeah and yeah, I found that part very annoying. I understand why he has to do it. Says a lot about kind of the place that we're at, where this whole idea of how could you like platform Joe Rogan, he doesn't. He gets way more viewers and listeners than CNN does. So you're not platforming or legitimizing anyone. You have an opportunity to speak to an audience address Joe's concerns. Say listen to this study. I mean one of the studies that Joe brought up about i've remect him. For example, Sanjay was able to point out like, well, you know, at the same time that these people were given i remact and they were also given the steroid that's proven to be effective, and I didn't know that either, you know exactly, So I mean, that's a really useful piece of information. And they went back and forth on these specific studies where it's okay, but here's you know that was this was the sample size, or here's why that may have been linked to natural immunity decline in COVID in India versus ivermect. And so they actually were able to go through with factual information what each of these pieces meant and how people should think about the relative risks of the disease versus the vaccine. And it was an extraordinary three hour conversation Sanjay. There are a couple of things that were noteworthy to me. They did get into it. It was not particularly contentious, but they did dig into the definition of gain a function reach right at the very end actually, for those who are looking for that, and those exchanges that Ran Paul has had with Fauci, and I think Goopta sort of rightly pointed out like, look, obviously, Paul, he didn't say this quite so directly, but like, look, obviously this guy's gotten a gen. But in the same respect, they're parsing the language and they have their very specific technical definition of gain of function that they think this doesn't technically meet, but by lots of definitions of gain and function obviously was so they get into that. He talks about the cover up of China, not letting people in to look at what's going on in the lab test, the antibodies of the workers who got sick, and all of those things. So that was interesting. There's also a moment at the end where they start talking about Joe's political ideology. That's true, and Gupta was really surprised, right, he was, like, I thought you were a libertarian or something, just like no, I mean, Joe actually describes himself as one hundred percent left. I think some people would dispute that. I think he's, you know, he's heterodox. He has a mix of views, but he's like, I'm for universal health care. He said he never voted for a Republican in his life. I'm for expanding the social safety net and UBI and talked about Andrew Yang. He also said though like had his critiques of of the left too. But I thought that was kind of revealing as well, because Gupta, even though he had said he had listened to his podcast, had clearly taken in and internalized just the sort of caricaturist view of Joe and what his views on all of this are. There are some parts that are extrameally frustrating and listen to. There are some parts that are pretty compative. There's some parts where they can really come to agreement. But overall, it was definitely a worthwhile three hours. You need ten times more of this in terms of actual engagement. So I thought it was a great conversation. I encourage you guys all to go listen to it. This particular part, I'll admit I enjoyed it. It was satisfying to watch, very satisfying to watch. All Right, all right, guys, thanks for watching. One more for you later. Hey. So, remember how we told you how awesome premium membership was, Well, here we are again to remind you that becoming a premium member means you don't have to listen to our constant please for you to subscribe. So what are you waiting for? Become a premium member today by going to Breakingpoints dot com, which you can in the show notes. So I've noticed an interesting phenomenon online. Everybody keeps saying let's go Brandon, and I said, what the hell is going on? And it has been traced back to a clip which has recently come across my radar, which may be one of the funniest things I've ever seen. An NBC reporter trying to cover up the fact that a crowd of people at a sporting event are shouting f Joe Biden by saying, look at them shouting let's go Brandon. I swear this is real. You can judge it for yourself. Let's take a listen pick. Thank you to all of our partners. Oh my god, it's just such an unbelievable moment, Brandon. You also told me, as you can hear the chance from the crowd, let's go Brandon. Brandon, you told me you were going to kind of hang back those first two stages and just watch and learn. What did you learn that helped you there in those closing laps? Oh my god, it was learning how each line you didn't stay to one and everything shifted top to bottom so much. All right, look, it's clear as day with the crowd is shouting here. I mean, I don't know. Here's the thing I do kind of feel for in that situation. I don't really know what you do. I mean it is I think it's like that's like network TV, so they have standards, so they are like do they cut away? And so she's like, let's go back. I don't know where did they even come from? Like, how do you even possibly try and spin that this dude's name was Brandon. I believe his name is brand by Way. I know nothing about NASCAR whatsoever, So you know, cars on the table there. I have no idea even who this guy is. I mean, I want to say it's possible that she actually thought they were saying that, because well, if you think about it, you're standing there, you got your ear piece in. It's very loud it's very hard to hear. You're trying to hear back like at you know, New York or wherever they're based, and then you're talking to the dude and you hear something in the background. I'm gonna stand up for and say, maybe she actually thought that, But that doesn't make it any less hilarious. No, it is so funny, and so now it has become a sensation on on media. I see it in our comment section. I see it everybody's comment section. Let's Go Brandon. I was like, what is going on? I was like, who is Brandon? What's happening. Eventually this after I saw the video, I was like, oh my god, I cannot believe it. As you said, look, maybe she did actually believe it. Maybe she was panicking. She was like, I just I have to do something. You could say it's enough like Brandon, But yes, Crystal, this is the origin of the Let's Go Brandon meme, which I gotta say, in terms of sticking power for memes, I think this one's gonna be around the solid ones, this very solid, solid thing. Let me attempt to make a serious point here, okay, which is remember at the beginning of the Biden presidency. He was hard to demonize, Like there wasn't energy around hating him. Yep, at Sea Pack, the speeches weren't really about him, even Trump right in February, that's right. Yeah, even Trump like didn't talk about it. Not much Fox News, you know, they and they still prefer to you know, the drag up AOC and like she and Bernie are really running the show or something like that. But oh yeah, but there's definitely starting to be more organic, actual hatred towards Joe Biden. Not just sort of like, oh he's doddering old man and he's irrelevant, we're afraid of these other things, but actual like hatred and venom directed at him, which you know, look, it's predictable, and the partisan media machine is very good at generating that those kinds of feelings. But I also think is it's a bad sign for him because we covered some of the poll numbers where he used to be really firmly above water on things like you know, do you trust him, do you like him? Is he looking out for people like you? And now he's underwater in those same character traits And that was really the thing that he had going for him as he was kind of like inoffensive, hard to demonize, kind of likable. You kind of gave him the benefit of the doubt, and I think that he's lost a lot of Oh. I think that's right, and it's interesting, you know, to that point, I asked a producer, James Is, like, where does this come from? And apparently it's an organic thing kind of at SEC games and more. It would make sense my own hometown in the SEC. So I completely understand what's going on there. But you are entering that. Once you start to get that revulsion of a figure, that's a problem because Biden is not Barack Obama. People really loved Barack Obama, so he was both hated and he was loved. People feel fine about Joe Biden, and now people are beginning to hate Joe Biden. I'm not saying it's in the same categories Obama and even Trump, but and you point this out all the time, I would much rather be those two gentlemen, because you have people who would actually come out and vote for you, crawl over broken glass. There's not a lot of Biden people like that out there, but there's beginning to become some sort of constituency which is against Biden himself, or maybe just a national Democratic brand, and you put that together, that's an electoral problem that they're Yeah, you don't want to be in a situation where your detractors really super hate you, guts right, and your supporters are sort of like, Eh, he's okay, And I kind of think that's the territory that Biden's get. I think that's right. So let's go Brandon. Let's go Brandon. We'll have more for you guys later. Wow, you guys must really like listening to our voices. Well, I know this is annoying instead of making you listen to a Viagra commercial. When you're done. Check out the other podcast I do with Marshall Kasloff called The Realignment. We talk a lot about the deeper issues that are changing realigning in American society. You always need more Crystal and Zag in your daily lives. Take care, guys. Some very troubling and yet predictable developments in the Prince Andrew Jeffrey Epstein connection. Let's put this up there on the screen, which is that the UK police say that they will not take any action on sexual assault suits against Prince Andrew. Now this matters for a number of reasons, which is one of the reasons that the accuser of Virginia Gouffrey, she has accused Andrew of sexually abusing her when she was a teen, she filed suit in the US Court in the US District for the Southern District of New York. Now, part of the thing is is in these suits is you have to be served papers. And so this is where the British police protecting Andrew have come into play, because the Duke has maintained that he's never been served and the reason he's never been served is because he's being protected by the Metropolitan Police. And so Virginia Gufray's legal team has tried repeatedly in order to get and see Andrew, to serve him with papers. They were told by the Metropolitan Police, you could consider him served by giving us these papers or the people who guard him, but his legal team says that doesn't count, and so effectively what you have is a situation where Virginia Gufray, the accuser of Prince Andrew, is unable to actually serve Prince Andrew with papers, at least in a legal definition, although that's being challenged in court because he's being protected by the British Police. Now, the way that the British Police had kind of been saying that they would would that they could keep up their morale or you know, keep up the image of them is they're like, well, we're going to do an investigation. Well now they just dropped the investigation. They said they're not going to take any action on this whatsoever. They said they will quote continue to liaise with other law enforcement agencies on matters related to Epstein. But what did I just tell you, which is that the Metropolitan Police is already protecting Prince Andrew by making sure that he can't get served with papers. And then they say that they're liaise with other agencies. Okay, well, how about this. The FBI since twenty nineteen has been trying to interview Prince Andrew. They've tried on multiple occasions, and he refuses to cross the pond and come to the United States and sit down for a deposition. And whenever our agents have tried to go talk to him in the UK, they say, no, it's not going to happen. This was under Bill Barr and it's current US Department of Justice policy. So what's going on? Why don't you liaise with us. They're police commissioners, says quote, no one is above the mall. But come on now, at this point, he's a prince in a palace being protected by police, and that's his excuse, Crystal, for why he can't get served with papers. And then his own country's police department is dropping the investigation into this guy. It doesn't get any more corrupt than this. I'm gonna guess the US isn't going to provide a whole lot of pressure too. Oh what are we supposed to do? Yeah, he's the prince, it's their government. They should be giving us him on a platter if they really want to police. Yeah, I mean, just ask yourself the question, this is any but like low level regular person who is charged with these kinds of crimes police like it would be over and yet he's protected and looks like very possible. He won't face justice ever, zero accountability for this. And imagine how much courage it took for Virginia Goodfrid to come out and you know, pursue this court, actually pursue this in court, knowing what she'll be subjected to, knowing the that these types of shenanigans will be pulled to protect him at any cost. And that's exactly what's transpired. No, it is exactly what's happening. And look, even the judge here in our the Southern District of New York was starting to say, like, come on, guys, this is ridiculous whenever it came to Prince Andrew's legal team. But the whole reason that they're challenging this on the serving grounds is because they don't even want to go on the record to deny or affirm in court what happened. They don't want to They want to avoid any admission or denial of guilt. Yes, Andrews said, you know in his twenty nineteen BBC interview that he didn't do anything. Okay, you know, he could say whatever he wants, but remember he has now dodged all the FBI to actually speak on the record here. He wants to avoid saying anything in court, and they want to try and dismiss this on procedural grounds. We'll see how that works out. I mean, at the end of the day's still a prince. And then the only entity which can do anything, which is the Metropolitan Police. They protect him. They could go and they could serve him with papers, they could investigate him, they could depose him on the behalf of the FBI, all of that. They're not going to do anything. So just the latest in terms of this. They really hope what the want. They want the monarchy and all that is. They want the press and the public to just lose interests. They're like, look, if you drag this out long enough and we stick him behind a wall, which is what they've done now for almost two years, people are just going to forget. Turn the temperature down. They should not forget because this guy, you know, you look at the interview for yourself and you could say that, in my view, for his lawyers, is clearly a liar. Look all pure innocent, Go clear your name. There you go. That's simple. Okay, All right, guys, we lot more for you later. One more thing, I promise. Just wanted to make sure you knew about my podcast with Kyle Kolinski. It's called Crystal, Kyle and Friends, where we do long form interviews with people like Nom Chomsky, Cornell West, and Glenn Greenwald. You can listen on any podcast platform, or you can subscribe over on substack to get the video a day early. We're going to stop bugging you now enjoy some important news about how just fake everything he is In Washington, DC. Kamala Harris, our vice president, recently produced a YouTube original series about the space program. As vice president, she actually is the head of the American Space Program. It's a carryover from the LBJA days under John F. Kennedy. And in that video, you're going to notice some children. The only thing you can really notice just from the video itself is good Lord. As a politician, I just will never understand what's going on. There'll first watch it, and then we're going to tell you the important news on the other side about what you're seeing. I just love the idea of exploring the unknown, and then there's other things that we just haven't figured out or discovered yet to think about so much that's out there that we still have to learn. I love that. I love that, and so I'm very excited about the Space Council. We're going to learn so much as we increasingly, I think, are curious and interested in the potential for the discoveries and the work we can do in space. So that's one of the things I'm most excited about. But the other you guys are gonna see. You're gonna literally see the creators on the moon with your own eyes, with your own eyes. I'm telling you, it is going to be unbelievable. So those kids who were saying wow, uh yeah, first of all coor children. It turns out, though of deep investigation left from the Washington Examiner, let's put this up there on the screen, that those children were actually child actors. And this was all sparked because Trevor Bernardino, he was an actor, thirteen year old from Carmel, California. He was asked to submit a monologue discussing something he's passionate about and three questions for a world leader. He then interviewed with a production director and then his agent was like, hey, you booked it. And he didn't learn until later that he would be meeting with Kamala Harris. He was joined by several others. Actually realized I shouldn't read all their names, but anyway, it's been confirmed all of the children, the multi racial children in the in that video were child actors, all five of them. According to the father of one of the actors. All of them work the one that I mentioned working in Los Angeles, and this was billed as a YouTube original called Get Curious with Kamala Harris. I mean you can find I mean, this became adorable, no knock off. Nothing about the kids, So kids who actually were like interested in space and would be excited Vice President. I can't stand Kamala Harrison. If I was a kid and I got to meet the vier. Look, I don't look. I don't know exactly what to say to say about it. Very revealing, it is very revealing. There were a couple other very revealing pieces on this deep dive that the Washington Examiner did. One is I liked this line. I am so, so so excited this product is out, wrote Emily Keller, a YouTube executive overseeing Progressive Civics content partnerships, who, according to her LinkedIn, was previously the Democratic National Committee social media director. Which also tells you something about, you know, the pipeline from politics into corporate executive roles and that whole symbiotic relationship which exists, you know, both with Democrats more so actually at this point than Republicans, because Trump sort of made some of his people rather unemployable. So there's that. Then they also point out one of Harris's new advisors, Lorraine Voles, has a portfolio including crisis management and marketing and rebranding. I think the White House and you know, Democrats certainly talk about this in this town. They realize they have a problem with Kamala Harris, regardless of you know, whether they like or don't like or whatever. They realize she is not very good at being a politician. She's not well liked. This was all obvious, utterly predictable, given that she dramatically failed in her presidential primary bid. Like you had a real time test of whether there was there was an excitement and an organic appetite for Kamala Harris to be the next in line, and they chose to ignore that for what reason, I really couldn't tell you. I think, you know, I think I think Cliburn put a lot of pressure on Biden after he was so instrumental. You know, I think certain I still think they were kind of looking at Amy Klobashark because remember Biden was saying, like, I'm going to make a black woman a Supreme Court justice. That was kind of the signal of like, but I'm going to pick like a white lady for vice president. And then when George Floyd happened and Amy Klobeshark was was involved, that took that off the table. So confluence of events leads you to Kamala Harris's vice president, and it hasn't gone very well. I mean, they've given her some very challenging assignments in terms of, hey, why don't you handle the immigration and border enforcement? But that in your portfolio. They're clearly trying to with this, you know, maybe rehab her image a little bit, make her a little more relatable. It's a big swing and a miss. And the real point that you alluded to is like just how fake everything in Washington is. It actually reminded me of that story about how the Zoom bookshelves are behind people being artificially constructed, right, they were like cultivated, but you could hire a company to like cultivate the right books on your bookshelf. Like that just says everything about DC. Yeah, exactly, we never actually read any of those books. Also, update on the video itself, Oh boy, it has four hundred thousand views, not bat two point five, twenty five hundred up votes, twenty one thousand down votes, and comments have been turned off for the video, so not so good in terms of its reception. Is that representative? No, Also, we have a poll. We've been promising you more polls from the breaking Points audience. This is actually revealing though. Let's put this up here on the screen, relatively the same amount of one day vote right now, it stands around sixty four thousand and Yes, that number holds with ninety something percent of you saying no, I don't approve of Vice President Kamala Harris, two percent of you to say yes, eight percent of you say unsure. And I'll remind that what were the Biden numbers he did or whatever it came to. The Biden numbers, he had a seventy eight percent disappeal. So obviously the vast majority there still saying that they don't. But I mean much more of you, I mean, many thousands more saying that you, at least some did approve of Joe Biden, not many saying that you do for Kamala Harris. And that tells you the whole story. Yeah, they're they're in trouble. I mean, there's even speculation that they'll try to push somebody else into that slot, not necessarily the vice presidential slot, but you know if Joe Biden doesn't run this time, or if he doesn't, or whether it's the next time up when you know, of course he couldn't serve a third term, and plus he'd be exhort and early old that they may not ultimately end up with Comlin because just the writing on the wall is way too clear. Absolutely all right, guys, we're gonna have more for you later. Thanks for listening to the show. Guys, we really appreciate it. To help other people find the show, go ahead and leave us a five star rating on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts really helps other people find the show as always special. Thank you to Supercast for powering our premium membership. If you want to find out more, go to Crystalansager dot com.

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As you guys know, we've started this new partnership with the Daily Poster in order to elevate some of their original journalism. You all know they do incredible work over there. Following the money, telling the real story of how to decisions get made in Washington. Now, normally we talked to David Serota, but the Daily Poster is way more than just David Serota. We have one of their great reporters on this morning, Julia Rock has got a couple of news stories we want to get too. Great to see Julia. Good to see Julia, Thanks for having me. So you have a piece doun about former Chicago mayor Rom Emmanuel, everybody's favorite, and you detail what you describe. We can throw this tears sheet up on the screen as the corporate funded rehabilitation of Rom Emmanuel, and effectively what you do here is break down the money that he's taken from various corporate interests, how that has potentially impacted some of the commentary that he has offered in mainstream outlets. And also, by the way, the fact that none of those mainstream outlets ever disclosed that he had these very direct conflicts of interest. Just break down for us what you found. Yeah, So, after Emmanuel left the Mayor's office in Chicago in twenty nineteen, he got a job with ABC News as an it as well as a couple of smaller gigs, writing op eds for places like Politico, The Washington Post. He had a really short stint at The Atlantic as a contributing editor, and during that time between twenty nineteen and when he was nominated for the ambassadorship to Japan a couple of months ago, a manual just kind of trashed key progressive policies such as Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, as of mainstream positions within the Democratic Party, such as raising the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour, something that Kamala Harris and President Joe Biden both support, making college more affordable and accessible. And during that time when he was writing those op eds and appearing on ABC News to disparage progressives, he was also making quite a bit of money working for an investment banking advisory firm called Center View Partners. He made about like twelve and a half million dollars during the two years between being in office and being nominated for the ambassadorship. And we looked through the deals that that firm was working on during that time, and as it turns out, a lot of those deals were with major pharmaceutical companies and fossil fuel companies. So some companies would be familiar, such as Giliad, which manufactured the government funded COVID treatment drug, as well as Pacific asim Electric, the utility in California. So these are companies that are involved in lobbying against the policies that Emmanuel was trashing on TV and in the pages of mainstream publications. And you know, like you said, it was never disclosed that he was taking in money from this firm and working on these deals while he was writing those offense and going on those tiraids. It is wild. I mean, twelve million, that's good work if you can get it. And what I'm really looking at here was that not what you're pointing to in the disclosure is that during that exact time, whenever he was in the media, this investment deals that they were working on were directly impacted by policies he was discussing. Is that right? Can you say more about that? Yeah, I mean the Gilliad pharmaceutical deal that you guys point to, just explain that a little bit got you. Yeah, So, so policies that he is on TV talking about exactly are policies that would directly, you know, affect these companies and the things they're working on. So Medicare for all is a is a good example. I think you know, not a lot of people necessarily know this, but but some of the biggest lobbying and lobbying money against Medicare for All has been from the pharmaceutical companies. And you know, the same goes for a Green New Deal, which is less of a specific policy but kind of a collection of climate policies and utilities again have been really important kind of sources of money for lobbying efforts against climate action. So yeah, again, these are these policies he's talking about would kind of directly affect these companies. It's not some like tangential or down the road impact. Julie, you also have a news story out this morning about Look, we've focused here a lot on the fact that Democrats since two thousand and six have promised to work on this time. We're really going to do it, guys. We're going to negotiate with these prescription drug companies to get you lower prices. Something that is such a no brain or something like eighty to ninety percent of the American people supported, and yet for all of these decades they failed to get it done. But you point to there are other mechanisms that the Biden administration could use to lower pharmaceutical drug prices. So far they have not pursued those avenues, but just lay out for us what tools are on the table for them. Yeah. So one of the mean tools at the Biden administration's disposal is called march in rights, which is something that a couple of senators have really been pressuring the Biden administration to take on as well as as we reported today, you know, Biden's current Health and Human secretary, Health and Human Services Secretary has long supported the federal government doing this, and march in rights is basically a tool that the federal government has if a government subsidized patent. So an example of this would be the COVID vaccines. We know that those vaccines were developed using patents that were funded with government research. If you know, if there's a product that was developed using a government subsidized patent and the company that has that patent isn't kind of distributing the product in a reasonable way or pricing it in a reasonable way, the government can essentially say you're not using this patent correctly, We're going to give another manufacture the right to produce this product, and this is something that can be used to lower drug prices. The Trump administration was opposed to using it to lower drug prices and issued kind of an eleventh hour rule to prevent the federal government from doing that. But that rule, which is now actually sitting in the Commerce Department under Secretary Genio Romando, could be rescinded. So the Biden administration could essentially rescind that Trump rule that prevents marchin rights from being used to lower drug prices, as well as kind of deploy marching rights to go in and start licensing these patents to other manufacturers to lower prices. And what has AHHS Secretary Bassara said on this in the past. So, yeah, there are a couple of vacations where he's really pressured the federal government to use these rights. During the Obama administration, he was one of a group of Congress people to pressure the Obama administration to use marching rights to lower drug prices. And then again as recently as last year when he was Attorney General of California, he petitioned Trump HHS Secretary Alex Azar to use marching rights to make the gillad treatment drug for COVID that I was talking about earlier, more acceptable to a broader population. Wow, seems like another candidate would be If this merk pill for COVID ultimately pans out, they're wanting to charge like four hundred percent of what it costs to make. This is again another drug that was developed using government public funding, so US taxpayer funded the development and then the company turns around and charges four hundred percent of what it costs to make in a gigantic price gouging scheme that bide administration could do something about it, but so far they had chosen not too. Julia, thank you so much for breaking down these great reports that you have out this morning. And listen, guys, we give the pitch every week, but you and the whole team over there at the Daily Poster are doing such great work actually focusing on the stories that matter in DC, the money that flows through this town and create some of the messes that we ultimately see. So if you guys are able, make sure you go over and subscribe to the Daily Poster so that you can be informed about all of those things straight away. Julia, thank you so much for your time this morning. Thank you, Julia, Thank you. A lot of people watch with great interest doctor Sanjay Gupta over at CNN appearing on the Joe Rogan Podcast. Both Christal and I listen to the entire thing. I recommend that you all go do so as well. Joe actually presses Sanjay Gupta hard on the case for vaccination. Sanjay Gupta does a good job of laying out what I would say the most reasonable pro vaccine case there is. Joe does a good job of representing the other side. Regardless, we need to see a lot more of that in our media, people who are actually engaging with one another. It was a very respectful conversation. There was one part though, that we had to pull out. We were going to wait until Friday in order to post this, but because you know, there's so much interest, and I think we'll go ahead and post it today on Thursday. For those of you who are watching, Joe is grilling Sanjay Gupta on remember CNN's decision in order to call ivermectin horse d wormer, specifically in reference to Rogan after he got sick, and Joe really grills him and gets Sanjay Gupta to admit that CNN made a mistake and should not have said what they said. One of the rarest things you're ever going to see. Let's take a listen. By the way, I'm glad you're you're better that. You're probably the only one at CNN that's glad. No, no, no, no. The rest of them are all lying about meeting horks medication and we should talk about that. That bothered you. It should bother you too. We're lying at your network about people taking human drugs versus drugs at a horse to wormer. Not a flattering thing. I guess that's a lie. It's a lie on a news network, and it's a lie. That's a willing that's that's a lie that they're conscious of. It's not a mistake. They're unfavorably framing it as veterinary medicine. Well, the FDA put this thing out. You saw that. Did you see the thing that the FDA put out? What did the FDA put out? It was a tweet and it was snarky, I admit it. They said, you are not a horse, you are not a cow. Stop taking this stuff or something like that. Why would you say that when you're talking about a drug that's been given out to billions and billions of people, A drug that was responsible for one of the inventors of it making the Nobel Pride a Nobel Prize in twenty fifteen eighteen. Yeah. Yeah, a drug that has been shown to stop viral replication in vitro. You know that, right? Why would they lie and say that's horsty wentwerre. I can afford people medicine. Motherfucker, This is ridiculous. It's just a lot that anyone is thicking. But don't you think that a lie like that is dangerous on a news network when you know that they know they're lying. You know that they know that I took medicine. Like here it is, this is iro you got right here. Somebody gave it to me, right, hang out? I do. The thing is We're like going so fast, like I feel like I'm missing I'm missing youth. I want that. That's a problem that your news networks. Well, I don't. I don't, dude. What did they say? They lied? They say I was taking horse de warmer. First of all, it was prescribed to me by a doctor along if you got a human pill, because there were people that were taking it the veterinary medication and you're not. Obviously you got it from a doctor, so that it shouldn't be called that. I remectin can be a very effective medication for parasitic disease. And as you say, it's probably you know, I think what a quarter billion people have taken it around the world. I get that way more so, way more pillions of people have taken it. Can I just come back to the one I want to talk about it you have before we get to that. Does it bother you that the news network you work for, out and out Lied was outright lied about me taking horse de Warmer. They they shouldn't have said that. Why did they do that? I don't know. You didn't ask. I didn't think that you're the guy over there. I didn't ask. I should have asked before No show I watched, I watched, I watched, watch No. I don't think there's yes. I don't No one takes taking livestock drug despite warnings. Yeah, Jamie had to pull this up. I want to play it. She does network. I'm going to watch. I'm going to watch. He then goes on to play Aaron, describing it as I think she's his veterinary medication. He also references Brian Stelter, who had said, when you have a horsty warming medication that's discouraged by the government, actually causes some people in this crazed environment we're into actually want to try it. That's the upside down world we're in with figures like Joe Rogan so lost someone to watch that was You're never going to see that. You're just never going to see well. And again, I want to give both of these men credit correct for engaging. And you should really listen to the whole conversation because it is actually fascinating. They go through the different studies on ivermactin, they talk about myocarditis and the incidents among young boy I mean, they really go through it all, and it is extraordinarily important and I think good to listen to. And so little of that dialogue has happened in American discourse. But to this moment right here, you see Joe's like fighter instinct. Gupta is on the ropes and he is not He's not gonna let him out. Yea, he had changed that. Well, this is coming so festive. Let a you're talking. He's like no, no, no, no no, no, no no. Why did they say it's why did they lie and say it's Horsey Warmer? And he makes this really important point and at another point, because this went on for quite a while or the like ten minutes, and recurring came up a couple times throughout the podcast, because not because Joe like cares about his own like ego or whatever, but because it's really important that people feel like a news network being straight with them. And so he draws the connection of Okay, well, if they're gonna lie about this thing which is easily checkable and like obviously untrue, what else are they lying about? Are they lying about Syria? Are they lying about Afghanistan? Are they lying about Russia? Like what other Hunter Biden, whatever it is? How do we trust these other things that you're asserting with similar levels of confidence when something so easily checked you're just outright wrong about. Yeah, and Sonjai didn't have an answer. Like, I've actually met Sanjay Gupti is a really nice guy. I can say that, and I do actually think he's a genuinely honest actor. Remember he's the one who asked doctor Fauci about natural immunity. Yeah, he's the one who did the documentary on the origins of COVID, and he got doctor Robert Redfield, the CDC director, to tell him about the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and he's the one who is very open to the idea of a lab. Leak talked about gain of function research. Some of the primary source materials that I have used to talk about lableik come from Sanjay Gupta, so that is on the table being said. Sanja did not have a good answer. And when Joe was like, do you understand how when people see this, how do I know you're telling the truth about Hunter Biden, Russia, putin or anything else? He said, do you understand that? And look, I get it Sanjay Gupta. I mean he's been on TV since like before I was born, and I would really say, like, hey, it's a he is not representative of everything that's wrong at CNN. But he didn't really have a good answer. There is no answer. And answer is yes, I understand that, and I think it's upsetting obviously can't say that right, And I you know, I was a little upset this morning because I woke up. I thought the conversation was great and group to put out this kind of op ed where he talks about and he's like, well, you know, some of my friends told me not to do this, and it was very much like a signaling to the elite circle of the world, like, oh, well, you know I had to do this because you know, talking to Joe Rogan like here's why I have to justify it. He rolled this whole op ed. Dude, you don't have to justify anything. You're on the number one podcast show in the country. You have a book to sell. That's easy, not justification. Number one. Number two is if we can't even talk to somebody, what's the point The guy's a doctor. If you want to talk about somebody who is going to have the best case, like the best case for the vaccine against somebody with some honest questions about it, why do you have to write this whole sob like, here's why I did it, Here's why it was important. Dude. Of course it's important. You probably reach more people there than you ever did on CNN. Yeah and yeah, I found that part very annoying. I understand why he has to do it. Says a lot about kind of the place that we're at, where this whole idea of how could you like platform Joe Rogan, he doesn't. He gets way more viewers and listeners than CNN does. So you're not platforming or legitimizing anyone. You have an opportunity to speak to an audience address Joe's concerns. Say listen to this study. I mean one of the studies that Joe brought up about i've remect him. For example, Sanjay was able to point out like, well, you know, at the same time that these people were given i remact and they were also given the steroid that's proven to be effective, and I didn't know that either, you know exactly, So I mean, that's a really useful piece of information. And they went back and forth on these specific studies where it's okay, but here's you know that was this was the sample size, or here's why that may have been linked to natural immunity decline in COVID in India versus ivermect. And so they actually were able to go through with factual information what each of these pieces meant and how people should think about the relative risks of the disease versus the vaccine. And it was an extraordinary three hour conversation Sanjay. There are a couple of things that were noteworthy to me. They did get into it. It was not particularly contentious, but they did dig into the definition of gain a function reach right at the very end actually, for those who are looking for that, and those exchanges that Ran Paul has had with Fauci, and I think Goopta sort of rightly pointed out like, look, obviously, Paul, he didn't say this quite so directly, but like, look, obviously this guy's gotten a gen. But in the same respect, they're parsing the language and they have their very specific technical definition of gain of function that they think this doesn't technically meet, but by lots of definitions of gain and function obviously was so they get into that. He talks about the cover up of China, not letting people in to look at what's going on in the lab test, the antibodies of the workers who got sick, and all of those things. So that was interesting. There's also a moment at the end where they start talking about Joe's political ideology. That's true, and Gupta was really surprised, right, he was, like, I thought you were a libertarian or something, just like no, I mean, Joe actually describes himself as one hundred percent left. I think some people would dispute that. I think he's, you know, he's heterodox. He has a mix of views, but he's like, I'm for universal health care. He said he never voted for a Republican in his life. I'm for expanding the social safety net and UBI and talked about Andrew Yang. He also said though like had his critiques of of the left too. But I thought that was kind of revealing as well, because Gupta, even though he had said he had listened to his podcast, had clearly taken in and internalized just the sort of caricaturist view of Joe and what his views on all of this are. There are some parts that are extrameally frustrating and listen to. There are some parts that are pretty compative. There's some parts where they can really come to agreement. But overall, it was definitely a worthwhile three hours. You need ten times more of this in terms of actual engagement. So I thought it was a great conversation. I encourage you guys all to go listen to it. This particular part, I'll admit I enjoyed it. It was satisfying to watch, very satisfying to watch. All Right, all right, guys, thanks for watching. One more for you later. Hey. So, remember how we told you how awesome premium membership was, Well, here we are again to remind you that becoming a premium member means you don't have to listen to our constant please for you to subscribe. So what are you waiting for? Become a premium member today by going to Breakingpoints dot com, which you can in the show notes. So I've noticed an interesting phenomenon online. Everybody keeps saying let's go Brandon, and I said, what the hell is going on? And it has been traced back to a clip which has recently come across my radar, which may be one of the funniest things I've ever seen. An NBC reporter trying to cover up the fact that a crowd of people at a sporting event are shouting f Joe Biden by saying, look at them shouting let's go Brandon. I swear this is real. You can judge it for yourself. Let's take a listen pick. Thank you to all of our partners. Oh my god, it's just such an unbelievable moment, Brandon. You also told me, as you can hear the chance from the crowd, let's go Brandon. Brandon, you told me you were going to kind of hang back those first two stages and just watch and learn. What did you learn that helped you there in those closing laps? Oh my god, it was learning how each line you didn't stay to one and everything shifted top to bottom so much. All right, look, it's clear as day with the crowd is shouting here. I mean, I don't know. Here's the thing I do kind of feel for in that situation. I don't really know what you do. I mean it is I think it's like that's like network TV, so they have standards, so they are like do they cut away? And so she's like, let's go back. I don't know where did they even come from? Like, how do you even possibly try and spin that this dude's name was Brandon. I believe his name is brand by Way. I know nothing about NASCAR whatsoever, So you know, cars on the table there. I have no idea even who this guy is. I mean, I want to say it's possible that she actually thought they were saying that, because well, if you think about it, you're standing there, you got your ear piece in. It's very loud it's very hard to hear. You're trying to hear back like at you know, New York or wherever they're based, and then you're talking to the dude and you hear something in the background. I'm gonna stand up for and say, maybe she actually thought that, But that doesn't make it any less hilarious. No, it is so funny, and so now it has become a sensation on on media. I see it in our comment section. I see it everybody's comment section. Let's Go Brandon. I was like, what is going on? I was like, who is Brandon? What's happening. Eventually this after I saw the video, I was like, oh my god, I cannot believe it. As you said, look, maybe she did actually believe it. Maybe she was panicking. She was like, I just I have to do something. You could say it's enough like Brandon, But yes, Crystal, this is the origin of the Let's Go Brandon meme, which I gotta say, in terms of sticking power for memes, I think this one's gonna be around the solid ones, this very solid, solid thing. Let me attempt to make a serious point here, okay, which is remember at the beginning of the Biden presidency. He was hard to demonize, Like there wasn't energy around hating him. Yep, at Sea Pack, the speeches weren't really about him, even Trump right in February, that's right. Yeah, even Trump like didn't talk about it. Not much Fox News, you know, they and they still prefer to you know, the drag up AOC and like she and Bernie are really running the show or something like that. But oh yeah, but there's definitely starting to be more organic, actual hatred towards Joe Biden. Not just sort of like, oh he's doddering old man and he's irrelevant, we're afraid of these other things, but actual like hatred and venom directed at him, which you know, look, it's predictable, and the partisan media machine is very good at generating that those kinds of feelings. But I also think is it's a bad sign for him because we covered some of the poll numbers where he used to be really firmly above water on things like you know, do you trust him, do you like him? Is he looking out for people like you? And now he's underwater in those same character traits And that was really the thing that he had going for him as he was kind of like inoffensive, hard to demonize, kind of likable. You kind of gave him the benefit of the doubt, and I think that he's lost a lot of Oh. I think that's right, and it's interesting, you know, to that point, I asked a producer, James Is, like, where does this come from? And apparently it's an organic thing kind of at SEC games and more. It would make sense my own hometown in the SEC. So I completely understand what's going on there. But you are entering that. Once you start to get that revulsion of a figure, that's a problem because Biden is not Barack Obama. People really loved Barack Obama, so he was both hated and he was loved. People feel fine about Joe Biden, and now people are beginning to hate Joe Biden. I'm not saying it's in the same categories Obama and even Trump, but and you point this out all the time, I would much rather be those two gentlemen, because you have people who would actually come out and vote for you, crawl over broken glass. There's not a lot of Biden people like that out there, but there's beginning to become some sort of constituency which is against Biden himself, or maybe just a national Democratic brand, and you put that together, that's an electoral problem that they're Yeah, you don't want to be in a situation where your detractors really super hate you, guts right, and your supporters are sort of like, Eh, he's okay, And I kind of think that's the territory that Biden's get. I think that's right. So let's go Brandon. Let's go Brandon. We'll have more for you guys later. Wow, you guys must really like listening to our voices. Well, I know this is annoying instead of making you listen to a Viagra commercial. When you're done. Check out the other podcast I do with Marshall Kasloff called The Realignment. We talk a lot about the deeper issues that are changing realigning in American society. You always need more Crystal and Zag in your daily lives. Take care, guys. Some very troubling and yet predictable developments in the Prince Andrew Jeffrey Epstein connection. Let's put this up there on the screen, which is that the UK police say that they will not take any action on sexual assault suits against Prince Andrew. Now this matters for a number of reasons, which is one of the reasons that the accuser of Virginia Gouffrey, she has accused Andrew of sexually abusing her when she was a teen, she filed suit in the US Court in the US District for the Southern District of New York. Now, part of the thing is is in these suits is you have to be served papers. And so this is where the British police protecting Andrew have come into play, because the Duke has maintained that he's never been served and the reason he's never been served is because he's being protected by the Metropolitan Police. And so Virginia Gufray's legal team has tried repeatedly in order to get and see Andrew, to serve him with papers. They were told by the Metropolitan Police, you could consider him served by giving us these papers or the people who guard him, but his legal team says that doesn't count, and so effectively what you have is a situation where Virginia Gufray, the accuser of Prince Andrew, is unable to actually serve Prince Andrew with papers, at least in a legal definition, although that's being challenged in court because he's being protected by the British Police. Now, the way that the British Police had kind of been saying that they would would that they could keep up their morale or you know, keep up the image of them is they're like, well, we're going to do an investigation. Well now they just dropped the investigation. They said they're not going to take any action on this whatsoever. They said they will quote continue to liaise with other law enforcement agencies on matters related to Epstein. But what did I just tell you, which is that the Metropolitan Police is already protecting Prince Andrew by making sure that he can't get served with papers. And then they say that they're liaise with other agencies. Okay, well, how about this. The FBI since twenty nineteen has been trying to interview Prince Andrew. They've tried on multiple occasions, and he refuses to cross the pond and come to the United States and sit down for a deposition. And whenever our agents have tried to go talk to him in the UK, they say, no, it's not going to happen. This was under Bill Barr and it's current US Department of Justice policy. So what's going on? Why don't you liaise with us. They're police commissioners, says quote, no one is above the mall. But come on now, at this point, he's a prince in a palace being protected by police, and that's his excuse, Crystal, for why he can't get served with papers. And then his own country's police department is dropping the investigation into this guy. It doesn't get any more corrupt than this. I'm gonna guess the US isn't going to provide a whole lot of pressure too. Oh what are we supposed to do? Yeah, he's the prince, it's their government. They should be giving us him on a platter if they really want to police. Yeah, I mean, just ask yourself the question, this is any but like low level regular person who is charged with these kinds of crimes police like it would be over and yet he's protected and looks like very possible. He won't face justice ever, zero accountability for this. And imagine how much courage it took for Virginia Goodfrid to come out and you know, pursue this court, actually pursue this in court, knowing what she'll be subjected to, knowing the that these types of shenanigans will be pulled to protect him at any cost. And that's exactly what's transpired. No, it is exactly what's happening. And look, even the judge here in our the Southern District of New York was starting to say, like, come on, guys, this is ridiculous whenever it came to Prince Andrew's legal team. But the whole reason that they're challenging this on the serving grounds is because they don't even want to go on the record to deny or affirm in court what happened. They don't want to They want to avoid any admission or denial of guilt. Yes, Andrews said, you know in his twenty nineteen BBC interview that he didn't do anything. Okay, you know, he could say whatever he wants, but remember he has now dodged all the FBI to actually speak on the record here. He wants to avoid saying anything in court, and they want to try and dismiss this on procedural grounds. We'll see how that works out. I mean, at the end of the day's still a prince. And then the only entity which can do anything, which is the Metropolitan Police. They protect him. They could go and they could serve him with papers, they could investigate him, they could depose him on the behalf of the FBI, all of that. They're not going to do anything. So just the latest in terms of this. They really hope what the want. They want the monarchy and all that is. They want the press and the public to just lose interests. They're like, look, if you drag this out long enough and we stick him behind a wall, which is what they've done now for almost two years, people are just going to forget. Turn the temperature down. They should not forget because this guy, you know, you look at the interview for yourself and you could say that, in my view, for his lawyers, is clearly a liar. Look all pure innocent, Go clear your name. There you go. That's simple. Okay, All right, guys, we lot more for you later. One more thing, I promise. Just wanted to make sure you knew about my podcast with Kyle Kolinski. It's called Crystal, Kyle and Friends, where we do long form interviews with people like Nom Chomsky, Cornell West, and Glenn Greenwald. You can listen on any podcast platform, or you can subscribe over on substack to get the video a day early. We're going to stop bugging you now enjoy some important news about how just fake everything he is In Washington, DC. Kamala Harris, our vice president, recently produced a YouTube original series about the space program. As vice president, she actually is the head of the American Space Program. It's a carryover from the LBJA days under John F. Kennedy. And in that video, you're going to notice some children. The only thing you can really notice just from the video itself is good Lord. As a politician, I just will never understand what's going on. There'll first watch it, and then we're going to tell you the important news on the other side about what you're seeing. I just love the idea of exploring the unknown, and then there's other things that we just haven't figured out or discovered yet to think about so much that's out there that we still have to learn. I love that. I love that, and so I'm very excited about the Space Council. We're going to learn so much as we increasingly, I think, are curious and interested in the potential for the discoveries and the work we can do in space. So that's one of the things I'm most excited about. But the other you guys are gonna see. You're gonna literally see the creators on the moon with your own eyes, with your own eyes. I'm telling you, it is going to be unbelievable. So those kids who were saying wow, uh yeah, first of all coor children. It turns out, though of deep investigation left from the Washington Examiner, let's put this up there on the screen, that those children were actually child actors. And this was all sparked because Trevor Bernardino, he was an actor, thirteen year old from Carmel, California. He was asked to submit a monologue discussing something he's passionate about and three questions for a world leader. He then interviewed with a production director and then his agent was like, hey, you booked it. And he didn't learn until later that he would be meeting with Kamala Harris. He was joined by several others. Actually realized I shouldn't read all their names, but anyway, it's been confirmed all of the children, the multi racial children in the in that video were child actors, all five of them. According to the father of one of the actors. All of them work the one that I mentioned working in Los Angeles, and this was billed as a YouTube original called Get Curious with Kamala Harris. I mean you can find I mean, this became adorable, no knock off. Nothing about the kids, So kids who actually were like interested in space and would be excited Vice President. I can't stand Kamala Harrison. If I was a kid and I got to meet the vier. Look, I don't look. I don't know exactly what to say to say about it. Very revealing, it is very revealing. There were a couple other very revealing pieces on this deep dive that the Washington Examiner did. One is I liked this line. I am so, so so excited this product is out, wrote Emily Keller, a YouTube executive overseeing Progressive Civics content partnerships, who, according to her LinkedIn, was previously the Democratic National Committee social media director. Which also tells you something about, you know, the pipeline from politics into corporate executive roles and that whole symbiotic relationship which exists, you know, both with Democrats more so actually at this point than Republicans, because Trump sort of made some of his people rather unemployable. So there's that. Then they also point out one of Harris's new advisors, Lorraine Voles, has a portfolio including crisis management and marketing and rebranding. I think the White House and you know, Democrats certainly talk about this in this town. They realize they have a problem with Kamala Harris, regardless of you know, whether they like or don't like or whatever. They realize she is not very good at being a politician. She's not well liked. This was all obvious, utterly predictable, given that she dramatically failed in her presidential primary bid. Like you had a real time test of whether there was there was an excitement and an organic appetite for Kamala Harris to be the next in line, and they chose to ignore that for what reason, I really couldn't tell you. I think, you know, I think I think Cliburn put a lot of pressure on Biden after he was so instrumental. You know, I think certain I still think they were kind of looking at Amy Klobashark because remember Biden was saying, like, I'm going to make a black woman a Supreme Court justice. That was kind of the signal of like, but I'm going to pick like a white lady for vice president. And then when George Floyd happened and Amy Klobeshark was was involved, that took that off the table. So confluence of events leads you to Kamala Harris's vice president, and it hasn't gone very well. I mean, they've given her some very challenging assignments in terms of, hey, why don't you handle the immigration and border enforcement? But that in your portfolio. They're clearly trying to with this, you know, maybe rehab her image a little bit, make her a little more relatable. It's a big swing and a miss. And the real point that you alluded to is like just how fake everything in Washington is. It actually reminded me of that story about how the Zoom bookshelves are behind people being artificially constructed, right, they were like cultivated, but you could hire a company to like cultivate the right books on your bookshelf. Like that just says everything about DC. Yeah, exactly, we never actually read any of those books. Also, update on the video itself, Oh boy, it has four hundred thousand views, not bat two point five, twenty five hundred up votes, twenty one thousand down votes, and comments have been turned off for the video, so not so good in terms of its reception. Is that representative? No, Also, we have a poll. We've been promising you more polls from the breaking Points audience. This is actually revealing though. Let's put this up here on the screen, relatively the same amount of one day vote right now, it stands around sixty four thousand and Yes, that number holds with ninety something percent of you saying no, I don't approve of Vice President Kamala Harris, two percent of you to say yes, eight percent of you say unsure. And I'll remind that what were the Biden numbers he did or whatever it came to. The Biden numbers, he had a seventy eight percent disappeal. So obviously the vast majority there still saying that they don't. But I mean much more of you, I mean, many thousands more saying that you, at least some did approve of Joe Biden, not many saying that you do for Kamala Harris. And that tells you the whole story. Yeah, they're they're in trouble. I mean, there's even speculation that they'll try to push somebody else into that slot, not necessarily the vice presidential slot, but you know if Joe Biden doesn't run this time, or if he doesn't, or whether it's the next time up when you know, of course he couldn't serve a third term, and plus he'd be exhort and early old that they may not ultimately end up with Comlin because just the writing on the wall is way too clear. Absolutely all right, guys, we're gonna have more for you later. Thanks for listening to the show. Guys, we really appreciate it. To help other people find the show, go ahead and leave us a five star rating on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts really helps other people find the show as always special. Thank you to Supercast for powering our premium membership. If you want to find out more, go to Crystalansager dot com.