Mini Show #5: Elizabeth Holmes, Walmart Worker, VA Gov Polls, and More!

Published Sep 25, 2021, 4:00 PM

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We had some truly incredible outbreaks of white feminism that we want to do bring to you here. The first is, of course, we've been tracking the trave Elizabeth Holmes, former head of Farahos looks like she lied to everyone, investors, customers, et cetera about what her supposed breakthrough technology could actually do. Made her the you know, this young female billionaire, but he loved her. And now that all came crashing down, and she's in fact, you know, facing trial for the alleged crimes that she committed. Well, it was only a matter of time before someone decided that all of this had nothing to do with the fact that she committed massive amounts of fraud and lied to everyone, but that she's a woman. That's the real problem here. Let's throw this off ed up on the screen from the New York Times, The Elizabeth Holmes trial is a wake up call for sexism and tech. This is written by Ellen Powell, who used to be the head wasn't she had read it? Yeah, she was a CEO of readit That's what I thought. She got fired. She also claimed sexism. Yeah, there's a full circle out right. Indeed, so she has an interest in perpetuating this narrative here. But she basically said that, you know, and there is some truth to the fact that this fake it till you make it culture is endemic in Silicon Valley and that it's populated with a bunch of liars who think, effectively, anything is justified if it is in service of getting their revolutionary technology to market so they can transform the world, et cetera, et cetera. But there is a big difference with Elizabeth Holmes, which is that you know, when a search engine doesn't work the way that it's exactly advertised, or the algorithm isn't quite where you want it to be, you don't have people's literal lives at stake. Whereas she was portraying this to the public, they were relying on these blood tests and it was all a complete lie fraud Potempkin Village, where you know, they weren't the tests weren't accurate, they weren't able to do the test that they claimed they were able to do, and it was just absolutely on a massive scale. I mean, these tests were in Walgreens, This was rolled down across the country with much fanfare, and she knew that there was a massive gulf between what the public was being told in the actual reality with you know, potentially really damaging consequences. That's what this BS doesn't get. Like you said, if an HR enterprise software doesn't work is advertised, Okay, you know my figures cry for the fortune five hundreds that will suffer. But when people make medical decisions based on faulty blood work, which happened to many people who are in John Kerry U's Bad Blood Book, they made terrible decisions about their health that had real world consequences to their bodies based upon the fake test results of this woman and her company. That she knew that it was not in good faith that she put out a product that you know, happened to fail. It was a direct knowledge of the fraud that she was perpetrating, both on Walgreens, her investors, and on these actual people that had consequences. That's the difference La and Powell. And like, here's the thing too, is like this could have been written by her defense team because we covered how she's leading into like a me too defense And in this instance, the reverse of sexism being a problem for Elizabeth Holmes is actually true. Is actually the case because what she relied on, what made her so famous was that she was this young female tech head. That's part of why she was able to attract all this investment, part of why she was on all of these magazine covers why she was Glamour's Woman of the Year. All of that stuff is because they loved the story of you have this male dominated field and oh my god, here's this woman who's breaking the mold and she's the female Steve Jobs. She leaned into her identity as a glass ceiling breaking, trailblazing woman. It's part of why she was able to snow people and get away with it for as long as she did. So it's the exact opposite of what Ellen Powell is saying here. She actually used her gender to enrich herself at the expense of you know, all of these people who relied on this medical data that turned out to be complete trash. No, and you, as you point out, this is a long stay. This is now a new you know, defense mechanism for the worst people in our society. Yes, another example of that. Yeah, Jennifer Rubin, who has undergone this weird trans transformation into now she's like the biggest Biden standout there, constantly getting retweeted by Ron Klain every single article she writes, which apparently sadly get a lot of us. They're just slavishly shilling for the Biden ministration. I'm propaganda. So Alex Thompson, who's a solid reporter over at Politico who covers the West wing there, he was writing a piece about how she's gone through this transformation and how she used to be extremely critical not just of Barack Obama but also Joe Biden specifically under the Obaman ministration, and ask you a very obvious question like, oh, well, that's interesting, I wonder what happened and let's talk about the change in your positioning here, to which she responded. When they reached out for questioning, she sent back this insane email that had in the subject line off the record, which is not how you Actually they never agreed to be a cool agreement. Yeah, you have to on both sides agree. They never agreed for this to be off the record. So Alex Stompson went ahead and publish this email, which is quite interesting, in which she claims that the reason they're writing about her is because of sexism and also maybe because she's Jewish. I just have to read you this email because this is amazing. How utterly predictable that Politico would run the zillion's hit piece on a prominent woman, especially when candid in her critiques of Politico's hysterical clickbait style of coverage. Notion that I'm polarizing in a newsroom is a take only Politico could come up with by of course, running around to ask the question in the first place. I trust this post superb news side folks spend zero time thinking about me. This is entirely appropriate. My only surprise is that sam Stein, is a very good journalist, would become enmessed in such an obviously misogynistic publication. Surely there are finer publications that would have him. And by the way, what a low class move to do this on gom kipper at the last moment. Yeah, so and all. So she's saying, like, I mean, this is an interesting story that Alex is pursuing. He used to trash Biden, Yes, and that got you a lot of clicks and a lot of prominence. Now it's very convenient for you to praise him, and that gets you a lot of clicks and a lot of love from the White House, and I'm sure a lot of access here. She's like their favorite journalists there, Now what's going on here? And she goes right to this is all about sexism and misogyny and maybe also because I'm Jewish, and Alex points us out put his sweet up there on the screen, which is that. Ron Klain, the White House Chief of Staff, has retweeted or mentioned Ruben more than three dozen times since midway mid May. The White House Press team, the DNC, the State Department, and the Vice President's office have all promoted her various columns and tweets from her recently. So his coverage of her as a central defender and propagandist with a Biden administration is in fact a legitimate story. It has nothing to do with her sex. If it was, by the way, people have written several stories about the Lincoln Project and many other types in the same thing. So it's just a low life move in order to make And yeah, I'm glad she got burned on this email. She wish she was even burned. She thought she was off the record. That's not how it works. If you think you'd be in Washington long enough to know that, she certainly would be in a position to know that. I mean, the thing that ties these things together here, and why this is so enraging to me is like when you just throw around sexism for everything, it becomes meaningless. It ends up meaning nothing. And another thing is look at how both of these incredibly powerful and wealthy women are pretending to be in some sort of like state of victimhood and using their gender in order to cover for power. Basically, I mean for Ruben, she's explicitly like protecting the Biden administration here by weaponizing her gender. And then Ellen Powell on behalf of Elizabeth Holmes, who's also using this at trial, is using it to cover her massive fraud that she allegedly committed. So it's really disgusting when these sorts of you know, legitimate thing racism, sexism, etc. Identity based issues are weaponized by the powerful to try to cover for their own failings, protect power, and make them outselves out like there's some sort of victim. It's disgusting display and Jennifer Ruben Elizabeth Holmes two key examples here today. There you go, all right, guys, enjoy your day. We'll have more for you later. Hey, So remember how we told you how awesome premium membership was. Well, here we are again to remind you that becoming a premium member means you don't have to listen to our constant pleas for you to subscribe. Are you waiting for Become a Premium member today by going to Breakingpoints dot com, which you can click on in the show notes. Today, we wanted to bring you the story of a true American hero. Beth mcgraf decided she was ready to quit her job at Walmart, and she did it by announcing on the intercom to all of the store associates and customers exactly how she felt about that job and the people, and the corporate culture and all of that distagalism. Attention Walmart shoppers and associates. My name is Beth from Electronics. I've been working at Walmart for almost five years, and I can say that everyone here is overworked and underpaid. The attendant policy is bullshit. We are treated from management and customers poorly every day. Whenever we have a problem with it, we're told that we're replaceable. I'm tired of the constant gas lighting. This company treats their elderly associates like shit. To Jared, our store manager, you're a pergirt, Greta and Kathy, shame on y'all for treating your associates the way you do. I hope you don't speak to your families, the way you speak to us, shout out to comedy, Patty Shardel, and so many more. Walmart doesn't deserve y'all. Fuck manage it and fuck this job. I quit. I just wonder how many service workers have wanted to say very very similar things. I think this woman is speaking for millions of people who want to tell their corporate bosses, managers, and overlords to go f themselves. Yeah, it's a pretty it's pretty amazing. But unfortunately, what are we seeing. Let's put this up there on the screen. More and more people are actually having to go and work at Amazon or Walmart, and as we have seen, the reason they're doing that is because, yes, Walmart is raising its wages, but it comes with the price, which is what did you see there with Beth, which is that Beth is having to work, you know, under a schedule that she doesn't necessarily have any saying wage ladder. Actually, Walmart, as we've discussed, is better than Amazon in terms of promoting outside of its associates. But whenever you work at these places, you're basically at the total mercy of management and you just don't have a lot of say in your day to day life. They could schedule you at night and then schedule you to open at six am the next day. This stuff happens all the time, and it's basically completely allowed in our labor law. For millions of people, this is their day to day reality. People like to portray it as, oh, it's, you know, temporary work. She worked for five straight years. I don't think, you know, it's not. She probably probably wanted to do something better, not necessarily any other options where she lives. So yeah, it's just a good example of what happens. I mean, Walmart hollowed out so much of America, and now Amazon is coming on top of that and doing the same like Walmart sort of hollowed out like the little downtown area and the local small businesses whatever, yeah, Main Street, and then now Amazon is coming in and hollowing out like suburban America and the malls and the sort of like big box retailers and all of that, and leaving with you with very few other options. I would like to think that maybe Beth felt comfortable taking this particular bold and brave stand right now because maybe there are more job openings available and she feels like maybe there's another opportunity out there for me because she hung in there for five years and now something has either brought her to the breaking point or made her feel embolden, like, you know what, I'm going to be able to get another job at a similar level that maybe actually treats me like a human being, because I also think it's very revealing what she says there, and she says, look, we're underpaid and we're overworked, but she also just talks about like not being treated in a basic, decent, dignified human way by management, by the culture of the store, even by you know, customers who were not kind, and that's something we've seen in culture as well as like service workers just treated by everyone as sort of like disposable robots, less than human. So kudos to her. I saw there was also an entire staff of a restaurant. Did you see this one? Quit on mass I think it's down in Georgia, And they just like posted just closed the restaurant and posted a sign on the door about what a terrible place it was to work, and they all just walked out together and were like, screw you guys, amount of here. So good, there you go, American hero. All right, guys, A lot more for you later. Wow, you guys must really like listening to our voices. Well, I know this is annoying. Instead of making you listen to a Viagra commercial. When you're done, check out the other podcast I do with Marsha Kasloff called The Realignment. We talk a lot about the deeper issues that are changing, realigning in American society. You always need more Crystal and Sag in your daily lives. Take care, guys. We've been keeping in our eye on that Virginia governor's race, and a new poll by the Washington Post is really eye popping. So let's put it up there on the screen. Mccauluff and Youngkin locked in a tight race for the Virginia governor. And remember keep in mind that this is from the Washington Post, semi local paper. Among registered voters, mccauliffe has a forty nine to forty three edge. However, amongst likely voters it's actually fifty percent to forty seven percent. Obviously likely voters is what matters the most there. I mean, it's pretty fascinating, Crystal, because Youngkin is really trying to drive up his support in kind of the ex urban parts of northern Virginia win over people who voted for President Biden would consider themselves Republicans who don't like Trump. Mccaulliffe is trying to tie Youngkin explicitly to Trump, do what Gavin Newsom did to Larry Elder. But right now you've got a pretty tight race going on. And as you always say, Virginia is the ultimate bell weather because it's off your election. That's right. It's like the only real significant election that happens right after the presidential election. Very unusual in these weird off years. And so you know, you saw the Tea party waves sort of previewed by Bob McDonald's romping win over Cree Deeds. You seen the era of kind of the Biden Democrat and the shift to suburban Democrats with the rise of Tarry mccaulliffe the first time around when he used to be governor, and then Ralph Northam also appealed to very similar demographic. So if you dig into these poll results, what the analysis from the Washington Post says is that mccauliffe is performing basically the same as Northam in most areas of the state, but the place where he's seen a lot of fallof is in those exurban counties, so you know, not the inner ring of suburbs with the one after that, and that that's the area that Young Kin has picked up a lot of support. Both of these candidates, even mccalluff, who was the former governor and is like pretty well known on the national stage, both of them are fairly undefined. Young Kin in particular, though, is really quite unknown. One thing I would say about this is Young Kin is not Larry Elder. Larry Elder had a lot more inflammatory things that he had said. He's this right wing radio personality, sort of continued to lean into that, even as he's running in a blue state of California. Young Cain doesn't have that kind of baggage. So he is a better candidate in that regard. But I still think you see some signs that this race could go the same way that California did, and ultimately mccaulliff could open up enough of a lead to win this thing fairly comfortably. Which is that right now there's a big enthusiasm deficit among Democrats, which is why you see mcculloff doing okay when you're just talking about registered voters and the race being extraordinarily tight when you're talking about likely voters, Democrats are just lose less enthusiastic right now now as we get down the stretch. And also, I should say Young Kins is very personally wealthy and spent a lot of money early on to help to define the race and give himself the edge that he's enjoying right now. So it is very possible that as voter's minds are focused and as more advertisements are run, and lord knows if Donald Trump may weigh in inadvisably into this race and say something about it. As term Calloff continues to make the case about that extreme Texas abortion law and Roe versus Wade being potentially undermined at the Supreme Court level, as he starts to define young Kin in that way with the more extreme parts of the Republican Party, you could see number one, some of those exurban independent voters moving back to the Democrats. And number two, I think you'll see the Democrats starting to feel more of that existential Okay, we've got to make sure that we don't get this crazy guy young Kin in there. Ultimately, there was a you always want to take these anecdotes with a grain of salt because who knows if this is representative of a broader population. But I did think that this was an interesting comment from a voter that the Washington Post interviewed. This guy named Timothy Davis, sixty two, retired law enforcement officer. He lives down in Williamsburg. Voted for Trump in twenty sixteen and then voted for Biden in twenty twenty. True swing voter this year. Right now, he's undecided, he says. I like some of the things in both parties. He gave him a call of high marks for his work on the economy and job creation during his time in office, but he did not like his support for gun control and abortion rights. Youngkin's appealing, he said, but the big question for him was whether he is fealty to Trump, who Davis said caused terrible damage and stomped all over the constitution. He said, I'll take a closer look at young Kin and try to decide if he's a true Trump. Yes man, it's going to be really, really tough. That's when I sit down on election day and say, Wow, what's the worst of two evils. So that's the case that Terry mccuff is already trying to make and is going to continue to lean into. Is like, look, this guy's basically electing Trump. He is Trump's but he supports him and Youngkin because he doesn't want to piss off the Republican base. Is kind of in a buying tier because he doesn't want to distance himself too much from the President. So I think that dynamic playing out is going to be interesting. I think you're right. I think ultimately Trump's Trump pushes mcauliff over the edge. In a non Trump world, I actually think young Kin could have a shot. He'd have a shot, He'd have a real shot. I mean, look, I still think northern Virginia and Virginia in particular are just a basically a blue state now. But there's enough there that somebody like young Kin, some sort of Hogan like figure, could pull it off. But given the fact that Youngkin has to thread that line and there's no way that he can, there's no that way that he can try and denounce Trump the way that Hogan has or other Republican governors in blue states, I don't think that he ultimately pulls off that. Being said, look, the bellweather is a bellweather, and we're going to keep an eye on it. Fact it's even close. It is interesting. Yeah, And the other thing that was interesting in this analysis is what voters said that they cared about. The economy and COVID continue to be really significant, seen as the most important issues. One thing that I did take note of is there's been a lot of conversation among Republicans and suburban voters about critical race theory and education, et cetera. It was a fairly narrow lead, but on the first of all, the voters who were most concerned about education preferred mccauliffe, and overall voters preferred mccauliff to Young Cain on education. So I just thought that was kind of an interesting note too, that that issue may not be playing out as effectively for Republicans ultimately as they thought that it would. Yeah, I think that's right. All right, guys, thanks for watching. We'll have more for y'all later. Thanks for listening to the show, guys, we really appreciate it. To help other people find the show, go ahead and leave us a five star rating on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Really helps other people find the show as always special. Thank you to supercast for powering our premium membership. If you want to find out more, go to crystalansager dot com.