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So over the weekend, Trump announced that he is invoking the Foreign the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight. This is claiming wartime powers. It's only been invoked three times in the past, both all three during actual wars eighteen twelve, World War One, and World War Two, when it was infamously used to justify the internment of Japanese civilians, including others as well, Italians and Germans as well. We can put me one up on the screen. So the headline here from PBS, Trump invokes eighteenth century law declaring invasion by gangs to speed mass deportations. So his claim is that the US has been invaded by a Venezuelan gang, putting us quote unquote at war because these, you know, can only these powers can only be used at wartime, and handing himself the discretion to intern and summarily to port with zero due process anyone that he effectively wants. So right away after he invokes this, and there was anticipation that this was coming, there were some Venezuelan migrants who were sort of moved to.

So over the weekend, Trump announced that he is invoking the Foreign the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight. This is claiming wartime powers. It's only been invoked three times in the past, both all three during actual wars eighteen twelve, World War One, and World War Two, when it was infamously used to justify the internment of Japanese civilians, including others as well, Italians and Germans as well. We can put me one up on the screen. So the headline here from PBS, Trump invokes eighteenth century law declaring invasion by gangs to speed mass deportations. So his claim is that the US has been invaded by a Venezuelan gang, putting us quote unquote at war because these, you know, can only these powers can only be used at wartime, and handing himself the discretion to intern and summarily to port with zero due process anyone that he effectively wants. So right away after he invokes this, and there was anticipation that this was coming, there were some Venezuelan migrants who were sort of moved to.

This Texas ice facility. Of course, this had.

This Texas ice facility. Of course, this had.

Been expected because he talked about on the campaign trail that this was coming all along. So the ACLU actually got out front and filed a suit to try to block these deportations, focusing in particular on these five Venezuelan migrants. So when Trump invokes this Alien Enemies Act, immediately a plane takes off with hundreds of Venezuelan migrants that they claim are in this trender Aragua gang, which became a big talking point on the campaign.

Been expected because he talked about on the campaign trail that this was coming all along. So the ACLU actually got out front and filed a suit to try to block these deportations, focusing in particular on these five Venezuelan migrants. So when Trump invokes this Alien Enemies Act, immediately a plane takes off with hundreds of Venezuelan migrants that they claim are in this trender Aragua gang, which became a big talking point on the campaign.

Trail as well.

Trail as well.

So they take off and head to El Salvador, where they are put into a notorious prison there where you know. I mean, they're just completely disappeared, right, So there's no access for journalists, no access for.

So they take off and head to El Salvador, where they are put into a notorious prison there where you know. I mean, they're just completely disappeared, right, So there's no access for journalists, no access for.

Lawyers, whatever.

Lawyers, whatever.

There is no proof that these people actually are in the gang that Trump says that they're in. In fact, previously they had said that some people you know and that were held at Guantanamo were in this gang, and journalists went in and turned out they weren't whatsoever. It's estimated there's only a few hundred members of this gang in the US all together, so.

There is no proof that these people actually are in the gang that Trump says that they're in. In fact, previously they had said that some people you know and that were held at Guantanamo were in this gang, and journalists went in and turned out they weren't whatsoever. It's estimated there's only a few hundred members of this gang in the US all together, so.

It's sort of okay, that's not so very.

It's sort of okay, that's not so very.

Unlikely that, you know, they got all of them in this one round up. In any case, there's there's no proof. They were given no due process, no ability to challenge the determination that they're part of this gang, and they're disappeared into this El Salvador prison that's known for cruelty, torture and slave labor. So after this plane takes off, a judge actually acts pretty quickly. We can put this next piece up on the screen. Judge actually acts pretty quickly and hastily schedules a hearing and says, you can't do this. You know, I don't think that you have the legal right to do this, and I am blocking all of these deportations, not just the five that the case was originally about. The ACLU, you know, immediately expanded their case to include all migrants who were held in detention. Said you can't do this, and even if there is a plane in the air, you need to turn that plane around and bring them back.

Unlikely that, you know, they got all of them in this one round up. In any case, there's there's no proof. They were given no due process, no ability to challenge the determination that they're part of this gang, and they're disappeared into this El Salvador prison that's known for cruelty, torture and slave labor. So after this plane takes off, a judge actually acts pretty quickly. We can put this next piece up on the screen. Judge actually acts pretty quickly and hastily schedules a hearing and says, you can't do this. You know, I don't think that you have the legal right to do this, and I am blocking all of these deportations, not just the five that the case was originally about. The ACLU, you know, immediately expanded their case to include all migrants who were held in detention. Said you can't do this, and even if there is a plane in the air, you need to turn that plane around and bring them back.

But that does not happen.

But that does not happen.

Instead, there's reporting from Axios that says that Steven Miller and Kirsty you know, they were apparently the ones that were you know, involved most closely in the execution of all of this. They debated with lawyers like, you know, should we go along with this court order or not?

Instead, there's reporting from Axios that says that Steven Miller and Kirsty you know, they were apparently the ones that were you know, involved most closely in the execution of all of this. They debated with lawyers like, you know, should we go along with this court order or not?

And basically they decided not.

And basically they decided not.

Now they claimed, oh, it was already in over international waters, so you know it's out of our hands now. Of course, this is like preposterous, and well why nonsot?

Now they claimed, oh, it was already in over international waters, so you know it's out of our hands now. Of course, this is like preposterous, and well why nonsot?

Wait?

Wait?

Why, well, because do you think you take things? First of all, look read the quote in front of you.

Why, well, because do you think you take things? First of all, look read the quote in front of you.

However, that's accomplished, whether planning is turning around or not or not being the operative word.

However, that's accomplished, whether planning is turning around or not or not being the operative word.

Second, however, it's a complane took off.

Second, however, it's a complane took off.

From Texas, which immediately put it over international waters within like ten minutes.

From Texas, which immediately put it over international waters within like ten minutes.

Those six thirty five pm.

Those six thirty five pm.

The flight landed at El Salvador at eight thirty five pm, making it clear that actually it was over international territory and not over the waters of the United States. Now, do you really believe that some federal judge here in Washington, d C. Has the authority to tell the executive to turn a military aircraft around?

The flight landed at El Salvador at eight thirty five pm, making it clear that actually it was over international territory and not over the waters of the United States. Now, do you really believe that some federal judge here in Washington, d C. Has the authority to tell the executive to turn a military aircraft around?

You believe? Okay, Well, then we'll test that at the Supreme Court. We will test that here's at the United States Supreme Court.

You believe? Okay, Well, then we'll test that at the Supreme Court. We will test that here's at the United States Supreme Court.

Spathetic, how do you know the criminal?

Spathetic, how do you know the criminal?

First of all, I mean this is where Look, you said something earlier, which I think is important. You think your country is being taken away from you because three hundred something Venezuelan illegal immigrants were deported to El Salvador.

First of all, I mean this is where Look, you said something earlier, which I think is important. You think your country is being taken away from you because three hundred something Venezuelan illegal immigrants were deported to El Salvador.

How do you what proof do you even have of that? I mean, because here's here's the thing.

How do you what proof do you even have of that? I mean, because here's here's the thing.

Yeah, here's the thing. They all entered the country illegally.

Yeah, here's the thing. They all entered the country illegally.

That's there according to the government. I mean, listen, I think that is probably true. But here's what you're defending. Hundreds of people who we don't know who they are, disappeared into a foreign prison known for torture, where no lawyers or journalists could possibly go and find out who they are and whether the government story adds up with zero due process. That's what you're defending, is that Trump can summarily say these people they're gone.

That's there according to the government. I mean, listen, I think that is probably true. But here's what you're defending. Hundreds of people who we don't know who they are, disappeared into a foreign prison known for torture, where no lawyers or journalists could possibly go and find out who they are and whether the government story adds up with zero due process. That's what you're defending, is that Trump can summarily say these people they're gone.

I'm putting them in.

I'm putting them in.

This prison and a foreign country indefinitely at my discretion, and you don't get to say anything about it.

This prison and a foreign country indefinitely at my discretion, and you don't get to say anything about it.

That's what happened here. So I just don't see anything.

That's what happened here. So I just don't see anything.

You can't say anything about it. I should see.

You can't say anything about it. I should see.

I think you should be easily challenged to the United State Supreme Court. And I think that within the context of clearly the invocation of the Alien Enemies Act, from what I've been able to review, he seems well within his rights to be able to do this from a state department or terrorist organization. That's not Listen, you're arguing semantics.

I think you should be easily challenged to the United State Supreme Court. And I think that within the context of clearly the invocation of the Alien Enemies Act, from what I've been able to review, he seems well within his rights to be able to do this from a state department or terrorist organization. That's not Listen, you're arguing semantics.

I'm talking no, I'm arguing the law. Are we at war right now?

I'm talking no, I'm arguing the law. Are we at war right now?

I mean it doesn't involved three times.

I mean it doesn't involved three times.

Look in the past of eighteen twelve, World War one, world War two, those are the three times that's been invoked. All three times, especially during World War two, quite shamefully in the internment of Japanese citizens. You think it's okay for our government to round up whoever claim their criminals and imprison them indefinitely in a foreign prison to be tortured.

Look in the past of eighteen twelve, World War one, world War two, those are the three times that's been invoked. All three times, especially during World War two, quite shamefully in the internment of Japanese citizens. You think it's okay for our government to round up whoever claim their criminals and imprison them indefinitely in a foreign prison to be tortured.

Well, that round saying to me, see, you seem much more concerned earned about that than the importation of eight to ten million illegal immigrants under Joe Biden. That seems to me, my country'smen taken away. So this is what I'm saying, Like, we can play this game all day long. Do you think that's an invasion. I think that's an invasion eight to ten million.

Well, that round saying to me, see, you seem much more concerned earned about that than the importation of eight to ten million illegal immigrants under Joe Biden. That seems to me, my country'smen taken away. So this is what I'm saying, Like, we can play this game all day long. Do you think that's an invasion. I think that's an invasion eight to ten million.

But that's not what he's talking about.

But that's not what he's talking about.

But he's talking specifically about Venezuelan migrants.

But he's talking specifically about Venezuelan migrants.

Yes, no, No, he's talking specifically about the.

Yes, no, No, he's talking specifically about the.

How many people are here from trende.

How many people are here from trende.

I have no idea, all right, that's my not even.

I have no idea, all right, that's my not even.

The roughly several hundred.

The roughly several hundred.

Who are we getting on CLU or from the lawyer.

Who are we getting on CLU or from the lawyer.

From from agencies, from international agencies that track law and order across Latin America. These are not like liberal do good or These are people who are looking at the spread of gangs around the world. Okay, many actually of these people likely were fleeing violence from the very gang that you're talking.

From from agencies, from international agencies that track law and order across Latin America. These are not like liberal do good or These are people who are looking at the spread of gangs around the world. Okay, many actually of these people likely were fleeing violence from the very gang that you're talking.

That's probably a convenient errative. Hold on, hold on, I think that's a very convenient narrative.

That's probably a convenient errative. Hold on, hold on, I think that's a very convenient narrative.

In terms of who was brought to Guantanamo Bay. Okay, in prison in Getmo, the Trump administration made the same Oh these are gang members. These are the worst of the worst. Some of them didn't even have criminal records at all. Some of them who they claimed were in Trende Ragua. It was because of either they were from that state of Ragua in Venezuela and actually, like I said, had been fleeing the violence from this gang, or they happened to have a tattoo that made them think like, oh, they're just in the gang. One of the people who is who was part of this group is LGBT Venezuelan who was in prison, according to his lawyer because of his tattoo, was assumed to be in a gang.

In terms of who was brought to Guantanamo Bay. Okay, in prison in Getmo, the Trump administration made the same Oh these are gang members. These are the worst of the worst. Some of them didn't even have criminal records at all. Some of them who they claimed were in Trende Ragua. It was because of either they were from that state of Ragua in Venezuela and actually, like I said, had been fleeing the violence from this gang, or they happened to have a tattoo that made them think like, oh, they're just in the gang. One of the people who is who was part of this group is LGBT Venezuelan who was in prison, according to his lawyer because of his tattoo, was assumed to be in a gang.

That's what we're talking about here. So there is no.

That's what we're talking about here. So there is no.

Reason I see him being gay or whatever.

Reason I see him being gay or whatever.

How is that relevant, because how do you think it's gonna go for him? Saga, he's an artist. How do you think this.

How is that relevant, because how do you think it's gonna go for him? Saga, he's an artist. How do you think this.

Is my hollowed Okay, then don't care that he's gay.

Is my hollowed Okay, then don't care that he's gay.

Do you care that he was wrongfully in prison and disappeared in a foreign jail cell? And there's nothing that anyone can do about it.

Do you care that he was wrongfully in prison and disappeared in a foreign jail cell? And there's nothing that anyone can do about it.

Author is a CLU lawyer. He's not a part of the air Trendogou you truly, I'm supposed to trust some open borders.

Author is a CLU lawyer. He's not a part of the air Trendogou you truly, I'm supposed to trust some open borders.

I believe that they rounded up in this. They successfully rounded up every trender Iragua gang member in the country.

I believe that they rounded up in this. They successfully rounded up every trender Iragua gang member in the country.

That's it. No, I don't mission accomplished.

That's it. No, I don't mission accomplished.

Okay.

Okay.

If anything, there's probably a lot more than need to go now. This is actually what I'm saying is that at the end of the day, within the powers of the State Department, which has declared this in ft O, the powers within the executive are quite clear. I also not Trump literally promised to do this on the campaign trail, so this was one of the most telegraphed.

If anything, there's probably a lot more than need to go now. This is actually what I'm saying is that at the end of the day, within the powers of the State Department, which has declared this in ft O, the powers within the executive are quite clear. I also not Trump literally promised to do this on the campaign trail, so this was one of the most telegraphed.

Okay, are you in like, are good with it? Are you good with it?

Okay, are you in like, are good with it? Are you good with it?

I mean christ random people? Are you good with eight to ten million illegal random over four years?

I mean christ random people? Are you good with eight to ten million illegal random over four years?

Changing the subject? Yes, I am. You know that I'm flying.

Changing the subject? Yes, I am. You know that I'm flying.

Okay, then are you good?

Okay, then are you good?

Quit changing the subject?

Quit changing the subject?

That's are you comfortable part of the story.

That's are you comfortable part of the story.

Are you comfortable with random people being snatched up?

Are you comfortable with random people being snatched up?

Why?

Why?

Okay, give me give me your proof.

Okay, give me give me your proof.

Of what that they entered the country.

Of what that they entered the country.

Give me your proof these are gang members?

Give me your proof these are gang members?

I don't have to offer that proof, and actually even the government doesn't necessarily have to do that either, But.

I don't have to offer that proof, and actually even the government doesn't necessarily have to do that either, But.

Good with that?

Good with that?

With what I think being able to snatch up random people.

With what I think being able to snatch up random people.

They're not random here, you know, they're not citizens, they.

They're not random here, you know, they're not citizens, they.

Are you're flying with okay?

Are you're flying with okay?

Do you think that the appropriate punishment for people who were fleeing gang violence and coming here.

Do you think that the appropriate punishment for people who were fleeing gang violence and coming here.

Seeking about a life accord gus?

Seeking about a life accord gus?

Do you think that an appropriate punishment is to be disappeared into a foreign jail cell, to be tortured indefinitely and subjected to slave labor.

Do you think that an appropriate punishment is to be disappeared into a foreign jail cell, to be tortured indefinitely and subjected to slave labor.

What I think is that their responsibility and safety is the problem of the Venezuelan government, and that they can argue to the government of Bel Salvador and identify answer virtuals.

What I think is that their responsibility and safety is the problem of the Venezuelan government, and that they can argue to the government of Bel Salvador and identify answer virtuals.

My question is it okay with you? Is it okay with you?

My question is it okay with you? Is it okay with you?

You think it is an appropriate punishment for someone who crossed our border seeking a better life to be disappeared with zero due process into a foreign jail cell to be tortured.

You think it is an appropriate punishment for someone who crossed our border seeking a better life to be disappeared with zero due process into a foreign jail cell to be tortured.

I are you good with that?

I are you good with that?

First of all, look, you're offering up a lot of claims where you don't even necessarily be true. In the same way you can't say for certain or whatever they've been tortured. Oh, they had their head shaven by the Salvador.

First of all, look, you're offering up a lot of claims where you don't even necessarily be true. In the same way you can't say for certain or whatever they've been tortured. Oh, they had their head shaven by the Salvador.

This is what this person is known.

This is what this person is known.

Okay, Okay, that's again.

Okay, Okay, that's again.

For I think it's look, as I continue to say, when you let in eight to ten million people and you an elect a president who says I'm going to use the alien enemies active mass deport people and stand in front of a sign and then you win the popular vote, then yeah, I am okay with it. And in fact the only problem I have with the Trump administration is that they've been prioritizing the stupid shiit like trying to deport someone like mahmod Cleer for some billionaire donors, and not the people who came here illegally. Those people entered our country criminally and illegally. This whole oh fleeing a better life is bs. There's they're economic migrants.

For I think it's look, as I continue to say, when you let in eight to ten million people and you an elect a president who says I'm going to use the alien enemies active mass deport people and stand in front of a sign and then you win the popular vote, then yeah, I am okay with it. And in fact the only problem I have with the Trump administration is that they've been prioritizing the stupid shiit like trying to deport someone like mahmod Cleer for some billionaire donors, and not the people who came here illegally. Those people entered our country criminally and illegally. This whole oh fleeing a better life is bs. There's they're economic migrants.

That's fleeing for a better life.

That's fleeing for a better life.

But there are problems, so they take advantage of our laws they illegally use.

But there are problems, so they take advantage of our laws they illegally use.

There is a very discreet question.

There is a very discreet question.

Yes, I understand you think it's okay to then randomly take people.

Yes, I understand you think it's okay to then randomly take people.

We have zero proof that these are.

We have zero proof that these are.

Gang members, and we should very much mistrust the government because they've been proven.

Gang members, and we should very much mistrust the government because they've been proven.

To lie about this previously.

To lie about this previously.

We should trust them that they're picking up gang members when they can pick up whoever they want and imprison them in a foreign jail to be tortured. You think that is an appropriate punishment for crossing our borders trying to achieve a better life.

We should trust them that they're picking up gang members when they can pick up whoever they want and imprison them in a foreign jail to be tortured. You think that is an appropriate punishment for crossing our borders trying to achieve a better life.

No, I think that the look I mean once again, I think it is clearly within the executive purview to be able.

No, I think that the look I mean once again, I think it is clearly within the executive purview to be able.

To do it.

To do it.

Stop lodging with the executive p think it's because do you do you think it's right or wrong?

Stop lodging with the executive p think it's because do you do you think it's right or wrong?

There's the world is not so black and white?

There's the world is not so black and white?

Would I have preferred to do you think it's preferred that they release the list of all of the names and the dossier for each one of these people. Absolutely would actually make it the history onic coming from a lot of.

Would I have preferred to do you think it's preferred that they release the list of all of the names and the dossier for each one of these people. Absolutely would actually make it the history onic coming from a lot of.

Liberty, you think there should be, and that that's the whole point of having to do so that they can have an opportunity to prove the things you're saying about me are not true. But instead, don't you think it's telling that they had this plane ready to go so that they could avoid any of that scrutiny and that they are now disappeared into a foreign prison where there is no ability to know who these people are. And by the way, there were children as young as fourteen who were part of this, because the Alien Enemies Act says it's fourteen or older. So you're talking about not just grown men. You're talking about you know, teenage boys here as well. Like that's that's what we're talking about. We're talking about the government claiming and ability to in turn deport with summer elite with no due process and holding the foreign prison whoever they want because we have no way to know who these people are. We don't even know for sure that they're Venezuela.

Liberty, you think there should be, and that that's the whole point of having to do so that they can have an opportunity to prove the things you're saying about me are not true. But instead, don't you think it's telling that they had this plane ready to go so that they could avoid any of that scrutiny and that they are now disappeared into a foreign prison where there is no ability to know who these people are. And by the way, there were children as young as fourteen who were part of this, because the Alien Enemies Act says it's fourteen or older. So you're talking about not just grown men. You're talking about you know, teenage boys here as well. Like that's that's what we're talking about. We're talking about the government claiming and ability to in turn deport with summer elite with no due process and holding the foreign prison whoever they want because we have no way to know who these people are. We don't even know for sure that they're Venezuela.

And we don't know we're where we enter illegal This is what I'm saying. The level of concern you have for a bunch of illegal immigrants is it's honestly maddening to me that you think it's okay to let eight to ten million people here at a level many human crimes. Okay, that's great. That's the job of the United Nations. Our job is to protect our country. The United States Constant as well as the Alien Enemies Acquistion me a multiple constitutionals.

And we don't know we're where we enter illegal This is what I'm saying. The level of concern you have for a bunch of illegal immigrants is it's honestly maddening to me that you think it's okay to let eight to ten million people here at a level many human crimes. Okay, that's great. That's the job of the United Nations. Our job is to protect our country. The United States Constant as well as the Alien Enemies Acquistion me a multiple constitutionals.

Tell me how it protects our country. To hand the president the ability to randomly round up and whoever he wants.

Tell me how it protects our country. To hand the president the ability to randomly round up and whoever he wants.

How do you know that what proof have you been given of.

How do you know that what proof have you been given of.

What that these are Venezuelan nationals are actually there is proof that they were Venezuelan nationals.

What that these are Venezuelan nationals are actually there is proof that they were Venezuelan nationals.

But beyond that.

But beyond that.

Now, again, we can criticize process in here all day long, but I do think that is a philosophical trap where look at the status quo that.

Now, again, we can criticize process in here all day long, but I do think that is a philosophical trap where look at the status quo that.

We were living in.

We were living in.

Fifteen to twenty million illegal immigrants who entered this country, eight to ten million of them over a four year period, or resounding popular voute victory for a person who said I am going to mask okay poor. In fact, I think this is probably one of the most popular things that Trump will do. And if liberals want to mount a great fight on this, this is I say, be my guest, But because this is the irony of the situation, I.

Fifteen to twenty million illegal immigrants who entered this country, eight to ten million of them over a four year period, or resounding popular voute victory for a person who said I am going to mask okay poor. In fact, I think this is probably one of the most popular things that Trump will do. And if liberals want to mount a great fight on this, this is I say, be my guest, But because this is the irony of the situation, I.

Don't know whether it would be popular or not. I actually know, I.

Don't know whether it would be popular or not. I actually know, I.

Actually doubt that.

Actually doubt that.

I doubt that disappearing people into a foreign prison is that popula. Maybe you're right, you know what, Slavery was popular at a time. Yes, ce creation was popular at a time. You know, Hating gay people was popular at a time. Like sometimes things that are popular, can be bad, can be immoral, can be a massive authoritarian, fascist power grab. This is one of those times. And I think it's insane that you can defend taking whoever they want and.

I doubt that disappearing people into a foreign prison is that popula. Maybe you're right, you know what, Slavery was popular at a time. Yes, ce creation was popular at a time. You know, Hating gay people was popular at a time. Like sometimes things that are popular, can be bad, can be immoral, can be a massive authoritarian, fascist power grab. This is one of those times. And I think it's insane that you can defend taking whoever they want and.

With zero due process, defying a court order.

With zero due process, defying a court order.

Well, no, that's yeah, no, no, no, because.

Well, no, that's yeah, no, no, no, because.

Again because it's actually it's very up to interpretation.

Again because it's actually it's very up to interpretation.

I would be more sympathetic to your view maybe if it wasn't for the Kelly who is the head of Al Salvador coming out and saying whoopsie and the White House amplifying that with regard to the court order being defied, like they openly and brazenly defied a court order here that said you have to turn the plane around. You cannot do this. So if these are hardened gang criminals, prove it, wouldn't you want to prove it. Wouldn't you want to show everybody look at all of these monsters that we found, that we're now getting rid of, that we're now deporting, that we're now falling through on our promises. No, they want to hide it. They want to do it under the cover of night because they want to hide who these people are and do it under the cover of night because they know that these are not No, I'm talking about the specifics of who these people are. These are not gang criminals when they went when journalists were able, and this is probably why people were pulled from Guantanamo. When journalists were able to go and check, oh, who are these people that you say, are these hardened criminal monsters that you put at Guantanamo Bay with no rights? Guess what they found. Many of them had zero criminal records. The ones who they claimed were gang they were not gang members. Some of them were fleeing gang violence. And yet we're just going to disappear people now and defy court orders and say whoopsie and send it to you know, this brutal human rights violation, torturing, slave labor cesspool.

I would be more sympathetic to your view maybe if it wasn't for the Kelly who is the head of Al Salvador coming out and saying whoopsie and the White House amplifying that with regard to the court order being defied, like they openly and brazenly defied a court order here that said you have to turn the plane around. You cannot do this. So if these are hardened gang criminals, prove it, wouldn't you want to prove it. Wouldn't you want to show everybody look at all of these monsters that we found, that we're now getting rid of, that we're now deporting, that we're now falling through on our promises. No, they want to hide it. They want to do it under the cover of night because they want to hide who these people are and do it under the cover of night because they know that these are not No, I'm talking about the specifics of who these people are. These are not gang criminals when they went when journalists were able, and this is probably why people were pulled from Guantanamo. When journalists were able to go and check, oh, who are these people that you say, are these hardened criminal monsters that you put at Guantanamo Bay with no rights? Guess what they found. Many of them had zero criminal records. The ones who they claimed were gang they were not gang members. Some of them were fleeing gang violence. And yet we're just going to disappear people now and defy court orders and say whoopsie and send it to you know, this brutal human rights violation, torturing, slave labor cesspool.

I think you know, you know, the funny thing is is that you know, as much as you love miss Shinbaum over in Mexico, Bill Kelly is the actually one of the also most popular.

I think you know, you know, the funny thing is is that you know, as much as you love miss Shinbaum over in Mexico, Bill Kelly is the actually one of the also most popular.

Leaders in Latin America.

Leaders in Latin America.

He dropped his crime rate from something like six thousand murders ten years ago to one hundred and fourteen just in the last year, overwhelming amount of success. So for all of this, he's overwhelmingly popular and it turns out that like, oh, whenever you lock a bunch of criminals up, crime drops is actually shocking. Beyond that, again, the histrionics and the level of concern always comes to applying the maximum force of the beauty of the United States to people who criminally entered our country.

He dropped his crime rate from something like six thousand murders ten years ago to one hundred and fourteen just in the last year, overwhelming amount of success. So for all of this, he's overwhelmingly popular and it turns out that like, oh, whenever you lock a bunch of criminals up, crime drops is actually shocking. Beyond that, again, the histrionics and the level of concern always comes to applying the maximum force of the beauty of the United States to people who criminally entered our country.

I genuinely wish there was the same level of concern for our citizens.

I genuinely wish there was the same level of concern for our citizens.

But this is where the liberal like entire concern strategy just frankly why it loses at the ballot box. It's genuinely internationalists and globalist. It is open border almost to its core, looking at these people as if they are full deserve the full protections of the United States and or are equal in equivalent US citizens. Well, you know under the alien under the Alien Enemies Act, if they are trend to AGUA members, and no, they don't actually have due process rights. In a similar way, for some mirror deportation are now I mean, okay, are we being invaded right now? You're to say, exactly, so there we go, water playman.

But this is where the liberal like entire concern strategy just frankly why it loses at the ballot box. It's genuinely internationalists and globalist. It is open border almost to its core, looking at these people as if they are full deserve the full protections of the United States and or are equal in equivalent US citizens. Well, you know under the alien under the Alien Enemies Act, if they are trend to AGUA members, and no, they don't actually have due process rights. In a similar way, for some mirror deportation are now I mean, okay, are we being invaded right now? You're to say, exactly, so there we go, water playman.

Imagine that two hundred people from a gang is an invasion and that puts US at war like that is insane. And so here's here's the thing.

Imagine that two hundred people from a gang is an invasion and that puts US at war like that is insane. And so here's here's the thing.

Okay, you you hate these people, you want.

Okay, you you hate these people, you want.

To know, You're fine to deport everything, imprison them in a foreign jail sale where that can be torture.

To know, You're fine to deport everything, imprison them in a foreign jail sale where that can be torture.

We got it. Okay.

We got it. Okay.

Do you realize though, that once the store is open, like, it's open for everyone, not just for Trump, like when civil rights go, that's it, they're gone.

Do you realize though, that once the store is open, like, it's open for everyone, not just for Trump, like when civil rights go, that's it, they're gone.

They're going to deport who exactly illegal immigrants? Okay, fine, that's why if Biden or Kamalain Hanris or whoever in the future wants to are it could be somebody who is here legally, fine, that's fine.

They're going to deport who exactly illegal immigrants? Okay, fine, that's why if Biden or Kamalain Hanris or whoever in the future wants to are it could be somebody who is here legally, fine, that's fine.

Would be comfortable with them picking up whoever they want and summarily deporting them.

Would be comfortable with them picking up whoever they want and summarily deporting them.

So this is because we keep on the protection of legal or.

So this is because we keep on the protection of legal or.

The Americans process where we even know who these people are. But yes, of course, if you're here you have some rights. Otherwise it would be like crazy. You couldn't just have some foreign tours here and then just like torture them for the hell of it. That would be insane. If you are here, yes you have some rights. If you're an asylum seeker, yes you have some rights. One of those rights is due process. And this is the thing. It's like, you know they pick this. They paint these people as all gang members, which they're not all gang er. There's zero chants that they're all gang members. But in any case, they paint them as that because they know that this is like a hated group and then those you know, rights get stripped away. And if you think that it just stays with the group that you happen to like, hate or not care about, or think deserve to rot and get tortured in a foreign jail cell, that's not what history shows us. And some of the most shameful moments in our history have been when a you know, hated group is targeted, like Japanese internment during World War Two, which is the last time that this law was invoked.

The Americans process where we even know who these people are. But yes, of course, if you're here you have some rights. Otherwise it would be like crazy. You couldn't just have some foreign tours here and then just like torture them for the hell of it. That would be insane. If you are here, yes you have some rights. If you're an asylum seeker, yes you have some rights. One of those rights is due process. And this is the thing. It's like, you know they pick this. They paint these people as all gang members, which they're not all gang er. There's zero chants that they're all gang members. But in any case, they paint them as that because they know that this is like a hated group and then those you know, rights get stripped away. And if you think that it just stays with the group that you happen to like, hate or not care about, or think deserve to rot and get tortured in a foreign jail cell, that's not what history shows us. And some of the most shameful moments in our history have been when a you know, hated group is targeted, like Japanese internment during World War Two, which is the last time that this law was invoked.

What's the key difference between that those were US citizens who are having their Supreme Court or their constitutional rights violated natural born us.

What's the key difference between that those were US citizens who are having their Supreme Court or their constitutional rights violated natural born us.

Is there any level of cruelty to migrants that you would not justify?

Is there any level of cruelty to migrants that you would not justify?

This is what this is what I'm saying. Deportation is not cruelty.

This is what this is what I'm saying. Deportation is not cruelty.

That's deportation. They're imprisoned in a torture chamber.

That's deportation. They're imprisoned in a torture chamber.

Okay, well it's else.

Okay, well it's else.

Is there any level of cruelty you would not justify?

Is there any level of cruelty you would not justify?

What I justify like chaining them up and hanging them from.

What I justify like chaining them up and hanging them from.

Their tortured They were sent for being prisoned.

Their tortured They were sent for being prisoned.

They were sent to a prison.

They were sent to a prison.

Salvador has agreed, apparently like on some fee basis, to house these people while they're there. It is now the problem the Venezuelan government. And by the way, actually, if this does go to the US Supreme Court and they uphold what you're saying, you know what, I'll say, Okay, bring them back, go ahead, let's do it.

Salvador has agreed, apparently like on some fee basis, to house these people while they're there. It is now the problem the Venezuelan government. And by the way, actually, if this does go to the US Supreme Court and they uphold what you're saying, you know what, I'll say, Okay, bring them back, go ahead, let's do it.

Strike it down. You can bring them back to.

Strike it down. You can bring them back to.

You no moral companies outside what the Supreme Court tells you. It's okay.

You no moral companies outside what the Supreme Court tells you. It's okay.

You look again, this is why I think this level of like frankly like moral where would the line udicous?

You look again, this is why I think this level of like frankly like moral where would the line udicous?

What would be too okay?

What would be too okay?

So let me ask you that how many illegals have to murder? What's the correct number that is justifiable in the crystal ball universe for the number of illegals to enter the United States?

So let me ask you that how many illegals have to murder? What's the correct number that is justifiable in the crystal ball universe for the number of illegals to enter the United States?

How many murders is that okay? To balance with increasing economic ge.

How many murders is that okay? To balance with increasing economic ge.

Aware that is it?

Aware that is it?

One doocumented and documented have a lower crime rate.

One doocumented and documented have a lower crime rate.

Than the native right, so they should actually be here to.

Than the native right, so they should actually be here to.

Stop smearing them all if.

Stop smearing them all if.

There shouldn't be here, then the number should be zero, correct. I think the trustful number is zero as the number.

There shouldn't be here, then the number should be zero, correct. I think the trustful number is zero as the number.

We need to actually have an immigration system where I would let more people in, yes than is legally allowed now, but yes, I would have borders. I would want to know who's coming in. I would want to make sure that criminals weren't coming in.

We need to actually have an immigration system where I would let more people in, yes than is legally allowed now, but yes, I would have borders. I would want to know who's coming in. I would want to make sure that criminals weren't coming in.

Well, none of that now, and I didn't see any of this level of history onics that was happening.

Well, none of that now, and I didn't see any of this level of history onics that was happening.

Well, two hundred people are.

Well, two hundred people are.

Sent to be tortured by our government, but they're interesting. That's something that doesn't upset you. Like, is that not upset you?

Sent to be tortured by our government, but they're interesting. That's something that doesn't upset you. Like, is that not upset you?

I don't think that they're quote unquote being tortured. I think they're in a prison now. Second, again, I think that there are tens of millions of people who crime only entered our country, circumvented our laws. We have no idea in the similar way that you're talking about here, who are who are either committing crimes. Let's say it's less than the native born population. Nobody knows if that's actually true or not. But even if it is, why is that acceptable number? And you think zero that is the appropriate pology.

I don't think that they're quote unquote being tortured. I think they're in a prison now. Second, again, I think that there are tens of millions of people who crime only entered our country, circumvented our laws. We have no idea in the similar way that you're talking about here, who are who are either committing crimes. Let's say it's less than the native born population. Nobody knows if that's actually true or not. But even if it is, why is that acceptable number? And you think zero that is the appropriate pology.

I think that justifies sending people to be tortured in a foreign person.

I think that justifies sending people to be tortured in a foreign person.

Keep saying there's evidence in the similar way there's no evidence.

Keep saying there's evidence in the similar way there's no evidence.

Do you think that that justifies do our government claim it? No, our government claiming the power to disappear people into a foreign prison set.

Do you think that that justifies do our government claim it? No, our government claiming the power to disappear people into a foreign prison set.

I will tell you this.

I will tell you this.

I will I think that, considering the circumstances of the election and the genuine insanity of the status quo that we're in, that me, along with many people who saw what Trump was running on, agreed with this idea put forward that every power of the United States government should be brought to bear to toport people who entered this country illegally. So I think that is open affirmed at the ballot box and is within this U. S.

I will I think that, considering the circumstances of the election and the genuine insanity of the status quo that we're in, that me, along with many people who saw what Trump was running on, agreed with this idea put forward that every power of the United States government should be brought to bear to toport people who entered this country illegally. So I think that is open affirmed at the ballot box and is within this U. S.

Law.

Law.

You are good with random people we don't know who they are, they get no due process, being smeared as gang members we don't know, and being disappeared into a foreign prison that is known for torture and slave labor.

You are good with random people we don't know who they are, they get no due process, being smeared as gang members we don't know, and being disappeared into a foreign prison that is known for torture and slave labor.

I mean again, I'm just going to say, like, so you're okay with people who are coming up, but actually answer, ironically answer, hold on, this is acause.

I mean again, I'm just going to say, like, so you're okay with people who are coming up, but actually answer, ironically answer, hold on, this is acause.

We have because we had people come.

We have because we had people come.

We have no idea who we had people come. That was we need fat because we also need argument. We also need some dishwashers. Company needs to build our house.

We have no idea who we had people come. That was we need fat because we also need argument. We also need some dishwashers. Company needs to build our house.

Because people with authorization, we should have fascism.

Because people with authorization, we should have fascism.

It's just it is not fat. It's ridiculous.

It's just it is not fat. It's ridiculous.

This is where But where is the what would be too cruel? What would be where you would say, you know what, this is wrong?

This is where But where is the what would be too cruel? What would be where you would say, you know what, this is wrong?

You know what? There should be due process? You know what these are?

You know what? There should be due process? You know what these are?

Yes, I I don't think that they should be. I don't think they should be in this country. But I do think that we.

Yes, I I don't think that they should be. I don't think they should be in this country. But I do think that we.

Deserve the not the perfect example, somebody who is here screened by our government, not only do we know who he was, somebody who has due process rights as a legal permanent resident who was arrested and is being deported for a BS free speech reason.

Deserve the not the perfect example, somebody who is here screened by our government, not only do we know who he was, somebody who has due process rights as a legal permanent resident who was arrested and is being deported for a BS free speech reason.

Perfect.

Perfect.

There you go say, we're I think we're going to talk about a case soon on some h one B thing. I think the government acted outrageously on that one. On this one. This is what you just This is what people really don't seem to get is when you sit there and you just justify again, how many people are okay to just be able to come in We're supposed to take their word for what is Oh I'm fleeing violence, and you apparently get to stay here for twenty five years and say it isen' ship in a job.

There you go say, we're I think we're going to talk about a case soon on some h one B thing. I think the government acted outrageously on that one. On this one. This is what you just This is what people really don't seem to get is when you sit there and you just justify again, how many people are okay to just be able to come in We're supposed to take their word for what is Oh I'm fleeing violence, and you apparently get to stay here for twenty five years and say it isen' ship in a job.

It's a complete bullshit circumvention of any.

It's a complete bullshit circumvention of any.

Your tension is that that justifies claiming wartime powers to disappear random people?

Your tension is that that justifies claiming wartime powers to disappear random people?

I think, I mean, I like how the phrasing is here. I will interpret yours in similarly bad faith, which is that you think it is okay for criminal illegals, pedophile, rapist murders, all of who have been proven to have crossed the illegally and under the various island status quo.

I think, I mean, I like how the phrasing is here. I will interpret yours in similarly bad faith, which is that you think it is okay for criminal illegals, pedophile, rapist murders, all of who have been proven to have crossed the illegally and under the various island status quo.

I am fine, and it's okay.

I am fine, and it's okay.

For them to meet here. I think they should be deported.

For them to meet here. I think they should be deported.

But but we don't know who these people are.

But but we don't know who these people are.

Because we don't know who these people are, and this administration has already been caught lying about who these people are. They've already been caught. There is zero reasons to believe them. In the entire country, there are probably three hundred gang members who are types internationally, like I'm telling you, there are multiple estimates from independent groups who track gang violence across Latin America. Their estimate is best estimate is that there are a few hundred members of this gang. So your faith that they got them all in this one round up, I guess we can mission accomplished.

Because we don't know who these people are, and this administration has already been caught lying about who these people are. They've already been caught. There is zero reasons to believe them. In the entire country, there are probably three hundred gang members who are types internationally, like I'm telling you, there are multiple estimates from independent groups who track gang violence across Latin America. Their estimate is best estimate is that there are a few hundred members of this gang. So your faith that they got them all in this one round up, I guess we can mission accomplished.

It's all done.

It's all done.

And then they brazenly defy a court order and brag about it and celebrate it. Like I just I just don't, I truly don't understand how that can be justified. Like, I get your upset about the number of people came here. We have a difference of opinion about that. That's fine, But in response to that, we think it's okay to just send.

And then they brazenly defy a court order and brag about it and celebrate it. Like I just I just don't, I truly don't understand how that can be justified. Like, I get your upset about the number of people came here. We have a difference of opinion about that. That's fine, But in response to that, we think it's okay to just send.

A group of people to be disappeared and tortured. How is that? How is that acceptable?

A group of people to be disappeared and tortured. How is that? How is that acceptable?

How?

How?

How in what world is that acceptable? I mean, in what a world is it acceptable for anyone to be torture?

How in what world is that acceptable? I mean, in what a world is it acceptable for anyone to be torture?

Whatsoever?

Whatsoever?

Are you?

Are you?

I mean, I don't think you're okay with that in general? So why when it's this group of migrants, is it like you could do whatever you want to And I really don't care.

I mean, I don't think you're okay with that in general? So why when it's this group of migrants, is it like you could do whatever you want to And I really don't care.

Well, we didn't do whatever we want to, and we put them in the custo of the l Salvadorian government.

Well, we didn't do whatever we want to, and we put them in the custo of the l Salvadorian government.

In a prison.

In a prison.

It's not the same.

It's not the same.

Thing, No, we in a prison that is known for torture and slavely.

Thing, No, we in a prison that is known for torture and slavely.

Yes, you can say it again. Okay, again, it's not the US who's doing this, And yes.

Yes, you can say it again. Okay, again, it's not the US who's doing this, And yes.

The US is doing it.

The US is doing it.

We facilitated their deportation.

We facilitated their deportation.

Of course, the US contracted with Bukelli to put them in this prison.

Of course, the US contracted with Bukelli to put them in this prison.

Yes, so they're in the custody the l Salvadoran government. They were deported. I think legally, we'll find out at the US Supreme Court. So what are you going to say if the US Supreme Court, which I fully expect them to uphold.

Yes, so they're in the custody the l Salvadoran government. They were deported. I think legally, we'll find out at the US Supreme Court. So what are you going to say if the US Supreme Court, which I fully expect them to uphold.

The My moral compass doesn't depend on what the Supreme Court says.

The My moral compass doesn't depend on what the Supreme Court says.

He then court support the Supreme Court candidate who does.

He then court support the Supreme Court candidate who does.

Has had dread Scott you know.

Has had dread Scott you know.

I mean there's a record, there is a record of terrible decisions from the Supreme Court. Okay, it doesn't require a Supreme Court decision to know what's right and what's wrong. And I think to take people with their due process where they don't get to make the case. Hey, I'm actually just I'm seeking asylum. Here's what is Here's why I have this tattoo, here's you know, I'm actually from that state.

I mean there's a record, there is a record of terrible decisions from the Supreme Court. Okay, it doesn't require a Supreme Court decision to know what's right and what's wrong. And I think to take people with their due process where they don't get to make the case. Hey, I'm actually just I'm seeking asylum. Here's what is Here's why I have this tattoo, here's you know, I'm actually from that state.

I was fleeing the gang violence.

I was fleeing the gang violence.

Like that would give the government an opportunity to prove what bad embrace these and why they deserve punishment.

Like that would give the government an opportunity to prove what bad embrace these and why they deserve punishment.

Fate the testimony of the lord, like, oh he's getting again.

Fate the testimony of the lord, like, oh he's getting again.

I take what I take is the proof previously that this government lied, and the proof also that the fact that they disappeared these people and clearly don't want us to know who they are and don't want us to be able to evaluate. If they were able to prove these claims in court, then they should do it. And even then though I mean personally I don't think people should be tortured, but in any case, they have a lot stronger justification for what they're doing here.

I take what I take is the proof previously that this government lied, and the proof also that the fact that they disappeared these people and clearly don't want us to know who they are and don't want us to be able to evaluate. If they were able to prove these claims in court, then they should do it. And even then though I mean personally I don't think people should be tortured, but in any case, they have a lot stronger justification for what they're doing here.

We are not at war.

We are not at war.

This is not an invasion of two hundred gang members, Like what are we talking about here? And if you can, if you can claim these if this president can claim these powers, any president can claim these powers, zero due process rights, to just disappear whoever they want into a jail cell in El Salvador where they are beyond the reach of any journalists or lawyers or anywhere.

This is not an invasion of two hundred gang members, Like what are we talking about here? And if you can, if you can claim these if this president can claim these powers, any president can claim these powers, zero due process rights, to just disappear whoever they want into a jail cell in El Salvador where they are beyond the reach of any journalists or lawyers or anywhere.

Then why that's what we're talking Why did the United States Congress not repeal that lawt or is invothe three times if they thought it was such a horrible threat to do process.

Then why that's what we're talking Why did the United States Congress not repeal that lawt or is invothe three times if they thought it was such a horrible threat to do process.

I mean Listen, were when we were leading up to this election, and I said I thought Trump was a fascist and authoritarian. You said, I think the institution. I think he's authoritarian, but I think the institutions will constrain him. Yeah, where are those institutional constraints, because what we have right now is a court ruling that the president just decided. I'm just not going to do that. I'm just going to go out. I mean, it was open to interpretation.

I mean Listen, were when we were leading up to this election, and I said I thought Trump was a fascist and authoritarian. You said, I think the institution. I think he's authoritarian, but I think the institutions will constrain him. Yeah, where are those institutional constraints, because what we have right now is a court ruling that the president just decided. I'm just not going to do that. I'm just going to go out. I mean, it was open to interpretation.

I remember you even saying previously when a judge was like, hey, you need to stop all of this. But it's not, let's say, feasible, because something is there. It's a lower court here at the district level. It will get challenged and it will go all the way to Scotus letus down. No, I'll tell you this, well, first of all, they might be coming back, because if the Supreme Court does say that that was illegal, then yes, the United States should actually not only have to comply with that order, they should fully pay bring these individuals back, and then we can go through that. Secondly, as we said, the idea that they're quote not complying is just not true. Put B four pleas up on the screen from the White House. The administration quote did not refuse to comply. Moreover, as a Supreme Court is made repeated clear federal or sorry. This isn't actually in a statement, but it's on the other side. This is the only current flight that's supposedly planned, considering that after the plane land was then over international waters, as they're claiming, it will be adjudicated sometime soon as to whether they're going to be held in contempt a court or not. This is not some ongoing policy there from the US government with respect to mass deportation flights of every Venezuelan like you are claiming, So they are actually complexed. This is now that the law has been now that the judge of judicial courses, you may have the similar point for the level of histronics if they were doing it every single day for the next ten years or it's our ten days, this up until it goes, but.

I remember you even saying previously when a judge was like, hey, you need to stop all of this. But it's not, let's say, feasible, because something is there. It's a lower court here at the district level. It will get challenged and it will go all the way to Scotus letus down. No, I'll tell you this, well, first of all, they might be coming back, because if the Supreme Court does say that that was illegal, then yes, the United States should actually not only have to comply with that order, they should fully pay bring these individuals back, and then we can go through that. Secondly, as we said, the idea that they're quote not complying is just not true. Put B four pleas up on the screen from the White House. The administration quote did not refuse to comply. Moreover, as a Supreme Court is made repeated clear federal or sorry. This isn't actually in a statement, but it's on the other side. This is the only current flight that's supposedly planned, considering that after the plane land was then over international waters, as they're claiming, it will be adjudicated sometime soon as to whether they're going to be held in contempt a court or not. This is not some ongoing policy there from the US government with respect to mass deportation flights of every Venezuelan like you are claiming, So they are actually complexed. This is now that the law has been now that the judge of judicial courses, you may have the similar point for the level of histronics if they were doing it every single day for the next ten years or it's our ten days, this up until it goes, but.

It hasn't happened.

It hasn't happened.

This is not even the only court order that they flouted in the past number of days. And a B seven up on the screen another deportation that a judge blocked. Judge demands Trump admin explained why a doctor was deported despite an order. This was an doctor who was here on an H one B visa citizen of Lebanon who was detained at the border and deported again in spite of the fact that there was a court order not to mention that this comes on the heels of you know, I mean usaid. There were all kinds of court orders saying, hey, you gotta you have to unfreeze this money. You got to pay these contracts. The government wouldn't do it, wouldn't do it, wouldn't do it, wouldn't do it.

This is not even the only court order that they flouted in the past number of days. And a B seven up on the screen another deportation that a judge blocked. Judge demands Trump admin explained why a doctor was deported despite an order. This was an doctor who was here on an H one B visa citizen of Lebanon who was detained at the border and deported again in spite of the fact that there was a court order not to mention that this comes on the heels of you know, I mean usaid. There were all kinds of court orders saying, hey, you gotta you have to unfreeze this money. You got to pay these contracts. The government wouldn't do it, wouldn't do it, wouldn't do it, wouldn't do it.

And so you have.

And so you have.

If you don't want to say it's open defiance because they're still coming up with a cover story, that's fine. But it's pretty clear from the reporting that they knew what they were doing, They had the ability to turn the plane around, and they just decided we're not going to listen.

If you don't want to say it's open defiance because they're still coming up with a cover story, that's fine. But it's pretty clear from the reporting that they knew what they were doing, They had the ability to turn the plane around, and they just decided we're not going to listen.

Uh yeah, Well I don't think I honestly think it's a crazy precedent that a lower federal court judge could be able to decide that a military aircraft can be turned around over international water. I mean, imagine, like, what is somebody in the middle of a bombing operation.

Uh yeah, Well I don't think I honestly think it's a crazy precedent that a lower federal court judge could be able to decide that a military aircraft can be turned around over international water. I mean, imagine, like, what is somebody in the middle of a bombing operation.

You're going to go to a judge and say, hey, actually, you got.

You're going to go to a judge and say, hey, actually, you got.

To turn that around because would circument the very basics of the United States government and executive authority.

To turn that around because would circument the very basics of the United States government and executive authority.

Government agencies were in charge of this flight. The order applied to those government agencies saying, no, you can't do this, like you have to turn these planes around, says turn the.

Government agencies were in charge of this flight. The order applied to those government agencies saying, no, you can't do this, like you have to turn these planes around, says turn the.

Plane around or not, and however that.

Plane around or not, and however that.

Is however it's accomplished.

Is however it's accomplished.

So if there's a plane in there and then you have to turn it around, like and they and again the reporting from in the room is that like they knew that they had a choice, and they thought they had they decided they get they decided that they were just not going to listen. I think that this is a new chapter in what our country is. If you can just claim claim we're at war and use it to just crush whoever's rights you want and send people to foreign prison cell with the expectation that they will be tortured and held indefinitely, I think that's wrong.

So if there's a plane in there and then you have to turn it around, like and they and again the reporting from in the room is that like they knew that they had a choice, and they thought they had they decided they get they decided that they were just not going to listen. I think that this is a new chapter in what our country is. If you can just claim claim we're at war and use it to just crush whoever's rights you want and send people to foreign prison cell with the expectation that they will be tortured and held indefinitely, I think that's wrong.

Yeah, well, I think the rorshack test here is that I think the last four years were ten times more outrageous than any potential implications of this.

Yeah, well, I think the rorshack test here is that I think the last four years were ten times more outrageous than any potential implications of this.

You were okay with it. I was not.

You were okay with it. I was not.

The people decided to vote for somebody who thought they wanted to have deportation.

The people decided to vote for somebody who thought they wanted to have deportation.

At the end of the day, we had a situation again.

At the end of the day, we had a situation again.

But this isn't about the deportivation, but.

But this isn't about the deportivation, but.

It really is actually about.

It really is actually about.

Getting rid of all the laws.

Getting rid of all the laws.

And this is about saying, you know, taking people, we have no proof of who they are.

And this is about saying, you know, taking people, we have no proof of who they are.

And does it not make you think the fact that ninety nine percent of the border crossings have dropped now under the Trump administration, despite the fact that there were no.

And does it not make you think the fact that ninety nine percent of the border crossings have dropped now under the Trump administration, despite the fact that there were no.

News that was before they did this might need to do it.

News that was before they did this might need to do it.

Is that not evidence that Joe Biden was genuinely did have some executive authority to quash whatever was going on the comp The story that we were told was that he was fully enforcing and complying with the law when eight to ten million people were allowed to enter our country illegally. The Trump administration has not, even in violation of any executive order or any judicial authority that I know of today, has been able to implement remain in Mexico and other policy to facilitating ninety nine percent drop. We didn't have to be doing any of the stuff we are right now if we had a previous president who didn't allow all these people.