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We've got, of course, the very latest for you out of the Middle East. Hard to believe, but it is one month ago today that the war on Gaza officially began, So we've got a little bit of a look back and also first indications from NETANYAHUO directly as to what the future of Gaza may look like, so we'll bring you all of that. We also have a little bit of a focus on the journalists who have been targeted in this war and the silence from a media that used to care about pretend it please to care about such things, So I'll get into all of that. We also had testimony from Trump in his civil fraud trial. Break that down for you. Apparently it's pretty wild in the courtroom. I guess that's not really unexpected when you're talking about the former president. We also have Dems who are really freaking out about that recent New York Times poll that we brought you yesterday showing Biden losing to Trump in nearly every swing state that they surveyed, and new calls for him to step Aside from perhaps some surprising places, we also have a major change of tune from Jim Kramer over on CNBC with regard to the United Autoworkers and also guys in his election day. It's the election day in Virginia, in Kentucky, and Mississippi. I think there are some thirty seven states that have something on the ballot today. So we're going to give you a little bit of a preview of some of the top things to watch for. Of course, Counterpoints will have full coverage of the results tomorrow, but happy to have j Miles Coleman with us this morning to break all of that down. Forest Let's go ahead and jump into the latest out of the Middle East. Put this first element up on the screen. This is something that we are watching very very carefully as we worry about the risks of this conflict widening into a broader war directly involving US. This is via Politico attacks on US troops in the Middle East spike amid military build up. The US publicized the deployment of warships and a submarine that were sent into the region over the weekend.

We've got, of course, the very latest for you out of the Middle East. Hard to believe, but it is one month ago today that the war on Gaza officially began, So we've got a little bit of a look back and also first indications from NETANYAHUO directly as to what the future of Gaza may look like, so we'll bring you all of that. We also have a little bit of a focus on the journalists who have been targeted in this war and the silence from a media that used to care about pretend it please to care about such things, So I'll get into all of that. We also had testimony from Trump in his civil fraud trial. Break that down for you. Apparently it's pretty wild in the courtroom. I guess that's not really unexpected when you're talking about the former president. We also have Dems who are really freaking out about that recent New York Times poll that we brought you yesterday showing Biden losing to Trump in nearly every swing state that they surveyed, and new calls for him to step Aside from perhaps some surprising places, we also have a major change of tune from Jim Kramer over on CNBC with regard to the United Autoworkers and also guys in his election day. It's the election day in Virginia, in Kentucky, and Mississippi. I think there are some thirty seven states that have something on the ballot today. So we're going to give you a little bit of a preview of some of the top things to watch for. Of course, Counterpoints will have full coverage of the results tomorrow, but happy to have j Miles Coleman with us this morning to break all of that down. Forest Let's go ahead and jump into the latest out of the Middle East. Put this first element up on the screen. This is something that we are watching very very carefully as we worry about the risks of this conflict widening into a broader war directly involving US. This is via Politico attacks on US troops in the Middle East spike amid military build up. The US publicized the deployment of warships and a submarine that were sent into the region over the weekend.

Let me give you the details here.

Let me give you the details here.

US troops station in Irock and Syria have been attacked by rockets and drones thirty eight times since October seventeenth. That's according to a Pentagon spokesperson. That is an increase from thirty one on Friday afternoons. Today. They're considering that an escalation. Forty six service members at this point in total have now self reported injuries from the attacks, which he called harassing. All of the forty six service members who did sustain those injuries were hurt during earlier attacks prior to October six. The injuries were sustained primarily in attacks on Alasade in Iraq and Al Tomp Garrison in Syria on October seventeenth and eighteenth. One additional service member was wounded in an incident in a rock on October twenty six.

US troops station in Irock and Syria have been attacked by rockets and drones thirty eight times since October seventeenth. That's according to a Pentagon spokesperson. That is an increase from thirty one on Friday afternoons. Today. They're considering that an escalation. Forty six service members at this point in total have now self reported injuries from the attacks, which he called harassing. All of the forty six service members who did sustain those injuries were hurt during earlier attacks prior to October six. The injuries were sustained primarily in attacks on Alasade in Iraq and Al Tomp Garrison in Syria on October seventeenth and eighteenth. One additional service member was wounded in an incident in a rock on October twenty six.

Yeah, but the headline news to me was that the Sunday was actually the most violent day five rocket in one way drone attacks near Alasad Air Base in Iraq, two locations in Syria.

Yeah, but the headline news to me was that the Sunday was actually the most violent day five rocket in one way drone attacks near Alasad Air Base in Iraq, two locations in Syria.

That was from the DoD.

That was from the DoD.

What's even worse, Krystal is that all of this is being leaked behind the scenes. The official number was hid from the American people of twenty one US service members, it now appears to be at least forty six US service members who have sustained injuries were hurt during these attacks. Some of them experienced traumatic brain injuries. Many of them are now in Germany actually seeking further treatment. So, look, this was not just like some something that happened far away or you know, even away from the service members that they happened to be completely safe, like obviously they were either caught off guard or they were attacked and they suffered some sort of injury, and the extent to these injuries are being totally hid from. The Sunday attacks are very significant because they came on the exact same time and Secretary Blincoln was actually present on Iraqi soil. So when you consider that and the amount of now visits that the United States and ministers and other officials have been present there, the attacks begin to ramp up as a signal to us, really, they're like, hey, we know who are you supporting. We also want you to know that you are not going to be go away unscathed. Not to what extent, obviously, it's unclear. Yesterday we brought everybody the news, but all those significant military assets, the Ohio class submarine that is present. Now we have seventeen thousand now US service members who have been redirected to the Middle East since the beginning of October seventh. I mean, if you think about that in a single month, to mobilize seventeen thousand US service members, multiple marine Expeditionary Force, two carrier strike groups, and all the attendant firepower on top of the existing military assets. It's only one month ago that the terrorist attack on on Israel and here we are sitting that much later. It just goes to show you how all the pieces are our place for broader escalation if needed.

What's even worse, Krystal is that all of this is being leaked behind the scenes. The official number was hid from the American people of twenty one US service members, it now appears to be at least forty six US service members who have sustained injuries were hurt during these attacks. Some of them experienced traumatic brain injuries. Many of them are now in Germany actually seeking further treatment. So, look, this was not just like some something that happened far away or you know, even away from the service members that they happened to be completely safe, like obviously they were either caught off guard or they were attacked and they suffered some sort of injury, and the extent to these injuries are being totally hid from. The Sunday attacks are very significant because they came on the exact same time and Secretary Blincoln was actually present on Iraqi soil. So when you consider that and the amount of now visits that the United States and ministers and other officials have been present there, the attacks begin to ramp up as a signal to us, really, they're like, hey, we know who are you supporting. We also want you to know that you are not going to be go away unscathed. Not to what extent, obviously, it's unclear. Yesterday we brought everybody the news, but all those significant military assets, the Ohio class submarine that is present. Now we have seventeen thousand now US service members who have been redirected to the Middle East since the beginning of October seventh. I mean, if you think about that in a single month, to mobilize seventeen thousand US service members, multiple marine Expeditionary Force, two carrier strike groups, and all the attendant firepower on top of the existing military assets. It's only one month ago that the terrorist attack on on Israel and here we are sitting that much later. It just goes to show you how all the pieces are our place for broader escalation if needed.

Yeah, I mean, to put it in layman's terms, given the amount of military assets that we have rushed to the region, I mean, it certainly looks like we are preparing for World War three, or at least to be ready in case that is what breaks out. And let's also be really clear in layman terms, the longer that bombs stamped made in America are being dropped on Gaza, the more risk to our service members and the more risk of this widening into a broader war. So when we're covering these escalations and attacks on service members, the rushing military assets into the region, this increase intention these are the concerns that we have about how this could ignite into a broader and incredibly serious conflict for US directly, as if it's not already serious enough. At the same time, and another indication of how concerned Washington is about exactly this possibility. Put this up on the screen. The CIA director is visiting Israel and the Middle East amid Israel Hamas war. This is per The New York Times.

Yeah, I mean, to put it in layman's terms, given the amount of military assets that we have rushed to the region, I mean, it certainly looks like we are preparing for World War three, or at least to be ready in case that is what breaks out. And let's also be really clear in layman terms, the longer that bombs stamped made in America are being dropped on Gaza, the more risk to our service members and the more risk of this widening into a broader war. So when we're covering these escalations and attacks on service members, the rushing military assets into the region, this increase intention these are the concerns that we have about how this could ignite into a broader and incredibly serious conflict for US directly, as if it's not already serious enough. At the same time, and another indication of how concerned Washington is about exactly this possibility. Put this up on the screen. The CIA director is visiting Israel and the Middle East amid Israel Hamas war. This is per The New York Times.

William J.

William J.

Burns, the CIA director, arrived in Israel on Sunday for discussions with leaders and intelligence officials, the first stop in a multi country trip in the region. They go on to say that he has extensive experience in the region, visited as key intelligence leaders in Israel have been heavily criticized for failing to detect the attack and.

Burns, the CIA director, arrived in Israel on Sunday for discussions with leaders and intelligence officials, the first stop in a multi country trip in the region. They go on to say that he has extensive experience in the region, visited as key intelligence leaders in Israel have been heavily criticized for failing to detect the attack and.

The threat from Hamas.

The threat from Hamas.

More broadly, they also point out that he has actually very close personal relationship with King Abdullah of Jordan. He was the ambassador to Jordan when King Hossein died and Abdullah ascended to the throne. And this comes saga, of course, as we covered, we had Blinkeln going back to Israel again and going back to meet with his counterparts in both Jordan and Egypt and basically being rebuked at every turn, and you know, not surprising when they have told Israel, we give you the green light, no red lines, We're with you one hundred percent. And then behind the scenes, hey, pretty please, could you bomble little bit nicer, Could you have a little bit of a humanitarian pause so we can at least save some face for ourselves or save some space and buy some time for you.

More broadly, they also point out that he has actually very close personal relationship with King Abdullah of Jordan. He was the ambassador to Jordan when King Hossein died and Abdullah ascended to the throne. And this comes saga, of course, as we covered, we had Blinkeln going back to Israel again and going back to meet with his counterparts in both Jordan and Egypt and basically being rebuked at every turn, and you know, not surprising when they have told Israel, we give you the green light, no red lines, We're with you one hundred percent. And then behind the scenes, hey, pretty please, could you bomble little bit nicer, Could you have a little bit of a humanitarian pause so we can at least save some face for ourselves or save some space and buy some time for you.

They said no.

They said no.

Then goes on and meets with his counterparts in Egypt and in Jordan, and they also said, listen, the real call here is for a ceasefire. This humanitarian pause thing that you're asking for is total nonsense. So again rebuked at every turn, and now we're sending another high level official into the region to see if they can have any more you know, I guess quote unquote success from their perspective.

Then goes on and meets with his counterparts in Egypt and in Jordan, and they also said, listen, the real call here is for a ceasefire. This humanitarian pause thing that you're asking for is total nonsense. So again rebuked at every turn, and now we're sending another high level official into the region to see if they can have any more you know, I guess quote unquote success from their perspective.

Well, the CIA director Burns actually has a lot of experience in the Middle East. Apparently he actually was the ambassador to Jordan whenever King Hussein died and the current king ascended to the throne. So he's got a very close relationship with King Abdullah, and he's going to try and broker at least some sort or reignite, you know, talks and the rebuke really that the president was given whenever his summit was canceled with all the Middle Eastern leaders.

Well, the CIA director Burns actually has a lot of experience in the Middle East. Apparently he actually was the ambassador to Jordan whenever King Hussein died and the current king ascended to the throne. So he's got a very close relationship with King Abdullah, and he's going to try and broker at least some sort or reignite, you know, talks and the rebuke really that the president was given whenever his summit was canceled with all the Middle Eastern leaders.

Also, CIA has long.

Also, CIA has long.

Connections I guess you could say that with the Egyptians and with them a lot of the other people who are in the Middle East, especially the despotic regimes, and they're going to use and try and leverage those connections. Because William Burns has spent so much time in the region, he knows a lot of these leaders personally, and of course he's got the full force of the US government behind him. So this is probably more of a diplomatic trip than it is anything else. You know, Burns in particular, because of his own diplomatic experience. He did a lot of quasi diplomatic trips whenever it came to go into Ukraine, whenever it came to negotiating in some cases with high level Russians. That was some of the contact that was made even after the mostly breaking off of relations after what happened during the invasion. So this, I think is because of the failure of the Biden diplomacy and the Blinken diplomacy. They're sending somebody who's got a little bit more credibility in the Middle East to actually go and have face to face meetings. So this is far more of a sign of the failure of diplomacy, at least so far, than it is anything else, although who knows. Of course, the CIA director apparently also wanting to share intel with the Israelis about where American hostages are held or you know, we don't know the z act number, what is.

Connections I guess you could say that with the Egyptians and with them a lot of the other people who are in the Middle East, especially the despotic regimes, and they're going to use and try and leverage those connections. Because William Burns has spent so much time in the region, he knows a lot of these leaders personally, and of course he's got the full force of the US government behind him. So this is probably more of a diplomatic trip than it is anything else. You know, Burns in particular, because of his own diplomatic experience. He did a lot of quasi diplomatic trips whenever it came to go into Ukraine, whenever it came to negotiating in some cases with high level Russians. That was some of the contact that was made even after the mostly breaking off of relations after what happened during the invasion. So this, I think is because of the failure of the Biden diplomacy and the Blinken diplomacy. They're sending somebody who's got a little bit more credibility in the Middle East to actually go and have face to face meetings. So this is far more of a sign of the failure of diplomacy, at least so far, than it is anything else, although who knows. Of course, the CIA director apparently also wanting to share intel with the Israelis about where American hostages are held or you know, we don't know the z act number, what is.

It, less than a dozen.

It, less than a dozen.

I think that's the official that are currently being held, so some American ISR. I saw a video of the pathways of US drones and air assets that are surrounding Gaza doing lots of loops. So there's a significant amount of US air presence over the Gaza Strip that is not necessarily being reported about, but we will get to that in a little bit.

I think that's the official that are currently being held, so some American ISR. I saw a video of the pathways of US drones and air assets that are surrounding Gaza doing lots of loops. So there's a significant amount of US air presence over the Gaza Strip that is not necessarily being reported about, but we will get to that in a little bit.

Yeah, and of.

Yeah, and of.

Course you know those hostages, their lives are also at risk in this Israeli bombing campaign, which is something that the hostage families in Israel have been very concerned about and really been pressuring the Nanyahu government over. Which a great transition into what we know about what's happening on the ground in Gaza, which is limited, and we'll get into the challenges of quote unquote journalism in this situation when you have journalisms journalists both targeted and killed, and you also have very few journalists allowed in, and those who are allowed in have to preview for the IDF every single piece of reporting that they're going to take to air. So really challenge to know exactly what's going on on the ground here. But this is what we can tell you. Put this up on the screen. It looks like Israeli troops tightening their positions around Gaza City. This is from the Wall Street Journal They say Israel deepens push into Gaza City. Israel is claiming much of Hamasa's military defenses its command, and many fighters are concentrated in Gaza City. Of course, it's always important to keep in mind here because this often gets left out of the conversation. Most of Hamas's leadership is not in Gaza. Much of it is in Qatar or in Lebanon and other places, so they are not there present on the ground, which I think speaks to what Israel's real goal here is, which their military offensive has never made sense in terms of just eradicating Hamas, which we've had from a number of military analysts saying exactly that in any case, if Israeli forces, they say, push into Gaza City, they will likely face Hamas militants that have barricaded themselves inside bombed out buildings and build a network of tunnels and underground command bunkers. Many civilians, it's important to recall, remain in that city and surrounding neighborhoods, unable or afraid to leave the north because of the continued fighting, despite repeated Israeli calls for non combatants to move south, and of course Israel has continued to bomb the south as well, so it's not like people who have moved to the south have been entirely safe from these bombing campaigns as well, and of course the entire territory is under an extended siege at this point, and Sager, from what we can tell, it seems at this point they haven't done a lot more.

Course you know those hostages, their lives are also at risk in this Israeli bombing campaign, which is something that the hostage families in Israel have been very concerned about and really been pressuring the Nanyahu government over. Which a great transition into what we know about what's happening on the ground in Gaza, which is limited, and we'll get into the challenges of quote unquote journalism in this situation when you have journalisms journalists both targeted and killed, and you also have very few journalists allowed in, and those who are allowed in have to preview for the IDF every single piece of reporting that they're going to take to air. So really challenge to know exactly what's going on on the ground here. But this is what we can tell you. Put this up on the screen. It looks like Israeli troops tightening their positions around Gaza City. This is from the Wall Street Journal They say Israel deepens push into Gaza City. Israel is claiming much of Hamasa's military defenses its command, and many fighters are concentrated in Gaza City. Of course, it's always important to keep in mind here because this often gets left out of the conversation. Most of Hamas's leadership is not in Gaza. Much of it is in Qatar or in Lebanon and other places, so they are not there present on the ground, which I think speaks to what Israel's real goal here is, which their military offensive has never made sense in terms of just eradicating Hamas, which we've had from a number of military analysts saying exactly that in any case, if Israeli forces, they say, push into Gaza City, they will likely face Hamas militants that have barricaded themselves inside bombed out buildings and build a network of tunnels and underground command bunkers. Many civilians, it's important to recall, remain in that city and surrounding neighborhoods, unable or afraid to leave the north because of the continued fighting, despite repeated Israeli calls for non combatants to move south, and of course Israel has continued to bomb the south as well, so it's not like people who have moved to the south have been entirely safe from these bombing campaigns as well, and of course the entire territory is under an extended siege at this point, and Sager, from what we can tell, it seems at this point they haven't done a lot more.

They've really gotten out of the tanks at this point.

They've really gotten out of the tanks at this point.

And so as far as we know, there have been few Israeli casualties, not zero, but relatively few. But again, this is all we're basically like flying blind here with what can be pieced together in terms of the operation that's been executed thus far.

And so as far as we know, there have been few Israeli casualties, not zero, but relatively few. But again, this is all we're basically like flying blind here with what can be pieced together in terms of the operation that's been executed thus far.

We're going to get into in a bit.

We're going to get into in a bit.

How even the private companies that have these satellite images that they normally sell to news outlets, et cetera and to the public have blocked a lot of the images coming out.

How even the private companies that have these satellite images that they normally sell to news outlets, et cetera and to the public have blocked a lot of the images coming out.

That makes it even more difficult.

That makes it even more difficult.

And Israel has been periodically imposing these complete telecoms and internet blackouts on Gaza, so no one can get on information about what is actually going on there.

And Israel has been periodically imposing these complete telecoms and internet blackouts on Gaza, so no one can get on information about what is actually going on there.

Yeah, that's the difficulty.

Yeah, that's the difficulty.

So Gaza City, they're saying, was the nexus of the planning of the attack on October seventh. They've pointed to the als chiefa hospital and others as one of them. The headquarters with a tunnel network underneath the hospital where they claim that HAMAS has much of its at least command and control infrastructure. So, as you said, I mean, really, what we've witnessed so far is, even though we're a month now, basically well really only two weeks or so into the actual military response, they've cut off Gaza City from a couple of angles.

So Gaza City, they're saying, was the nexus of the planning of the attack on October seventh. They've pointed to the als chiefa hospital and others as one of them. The headquarters with a tunnel network underneath the hospital where they claim that HAMAS has much of its at least command and control infrastructure. So, as you said, I mean, really, what we've witnessed so far is, even though we're a month now, basically well really only two weeks or so into the actual military response, they've cut off Gaza City from a couple of angles.

They've made sure that they've had it.

They've made sure that they've had it.

In the south, civilians are fleeing at least I saw some videos to coming out this morning of that. And then in the north they've also isolated any sort of exit that HAMAS would try and have, so then they're trying to squeeze around the city and encircle it. Now, encircling it is one matter. As you said, that's why the casualties they have been taking have been limited, although of course they have said a couple hundred so far. However, what they say is they want to destroy the tunnel network. Now that is going to be incredibly difficult because there is basically no way to ensure that you're doing that keep the hostages alive without having to go in and send people and actually have fighting, you know, in these hundreds and hundreds of miles of tunnels.

In the south, civilians are fleeing at least I saw some videos to coming out this morning of that. And then in the north they've also isolated any sort of exit that HAMAS would try and have, so then they're trying to squeeze around the city and encircle it. Now, encircling it is one matter. As you said, that's why the casualties they have been taking have been limited, although of course they have said a couple hundred so far. However, what they say is they want to destroy the tunnel network. Now that is going to be incredibly difficult because there is basically no way to ensure that you're doing that keep the hostages alive without having to go in and send people and actually have fighting, you know, in these hundreds and hundreds of miles of tunnels.

Now it's possible that they may not choose to do that.

Now it's possible that they may not choose to do that.

They may isolate it, try and take out as many civilians as possible, and then level the entire thing with bunker busting bombs. We've seen some that have been dropped. That actually might be the most plausible way if you want to take the minimal amount of casualties. But the problem is of the emotional issue of so many of these two hundred something hostages that are likely being held in that region as well. So this is a true like devil's bargain for the Israeli military planners and something that they're really going to have to decide, you know, which way they want to go. The other side of that problem is, you know, you can drop bunker busting bombs or you are going to destroy the entire city, like it's going to be gone and not even rubble, it's just gonna be like dust.

They may isolate it, try and take out as many civilians as possible, and then level the entire thing with bunker busting bombs. We've seen some that have been dropped. That actually might be the most plausible way if you want to take the minimal amount of casualties. But the problem is of the emotional issue of so many of these two hundred something hostages that are likely being held in that region as well. So this is a true like devil's bargain for the Israeli military planners and something that they're really going to have to decide, you know, which way they want to go. The other side of that problem is, you know, you can drop bunker busting bombs or you are going to destroy the entire city, like it's going to be gone and not even rubble, it's just gonna be like dust.

That is left there.

That is left there.

And you've even got your own troops now in there. This is a question then of you're really going to ignite you know, fears and outrage in the Arab world about like you've not even It's like, how can you return to absolutely nothing and a literal erasure. When we talk about the parking lot, you know me, it's effectively what they would be turning into. So there's regardless, it appears to be some sort of turning point. We're going to see how they decide to take care of quote unquote Gaza City. Are they going to go in have bloody hand to hand combat or are they just going to encircle it, try and get as many people out as possible and then flatten the entire thing. Both are you know, truly are both will be devastating really for everybody involved.

And you've even got your own troops now in there. This is a question then of you're really going to ignite you know, fears and outrage in the Arab world about like you've not even It's like, how can you return to absolutely nothing and a literal erasure. When we talk about the parking lot, you know me, it's effectively what they would be turning into. So there's regardless, it appears to be some sort of turning point. We're going to see how they decide to take care of quote unquote Gaza City. Are they going to go in have bloody hand to hand combat or are they just going to encircle it, try and get as many people out as possible and then flatten the entire thing. Both are you know, truly are both will be devastating really for everybody involved.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, that's right.

And of course, as we're watching this all unfold, you know, we brought you yesterday the comments coming out of the Israeli government, one minister saying, hey, maybe one option is we should is nuke and Gaza. That's one possibility, he said. He also said that the all the Palestinians should be dispersed. They can go to the desert, or they can go to Ireland. Additional comments like that, you have another member of net Nyahu's Likud party saying what we want is nakpa. We want a second Nakpa, more devastating than the first. Than paraphrasing, but those were essentially the words that were offered there. You have, of course multiple now reports, one from a think tank, one from an official Israeli government ministry laying out, Hey, what we really want to do is we want to push all of the Palestinians out of Gaza. So when you see these extremists who were saying what Soccer was alluding to there, you know what we should really do is just turn Gaza into a parking lot. That is a very real possibility of what could be happening here, And certainly it appears that the goal of pushing all of Palestinian, the Palestinians in Gaza out of Gaza is being pursued behind the scenes by the net Nyahuo administration. We've now had mainstream reporting about the pressure that is being put on Egypt to accept hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Now they claim, oh, it would just be temporary, it's just for humanitarian reasons. But given the communications that have been potentially intentionally leaked out of the Israeli government, I think there is deep reason for skepticism about that, especially when you consider that significant parts of the net Nyahuo coalition have always had this as their stated objective. Moving on, as I mentioned at the top, we are now it's kind of hard to believe, but we're now officially one month from October seventh, when Hamas perpetrated those horrific attacks on many Israeli citizens, and that, of course, on that very day net Nyahu announced we are now at war, and they began their war on Gaza. And just the last evening we got a little bit of an indication from net Nyahoo about what he is thinking the future of Gaza may look like, or some aspect of it. In any case, let's take a listen to what he had to say on an English language. By the way, American broadcast take a lesson.

And of course, as we're watching this all unfold, you know, we brought you yesterday the comments coming out of the Israeli government, one minister saying, hey, maybe one option is we should is nuke and Gaza. That's one possibility, he said. He also said that the all the Palestinians should be dispersed. They can go to the desert, or they can go to Ireland. Additional comments like that, you have another member of net Nyahu's Likud party saying what we want is nakpa. We want a second Nakpa, more devastating than the first. Than paraphrasing, but those were essentially the words that were offered there. You have, of course multiple now reports, one from a think tank, one from an official Israeli government ministry laying out, Hey, what we really want to do is we want to push all of the Palestinians out of Gaza. So when you see these extremists who were saying what Soccer was alluding to there, you know what we should really do is just turn Gaza into a parking lot. That is a very real possibility of what could be happening here, And certainly it appears that the goal of pushing all of Palestinian, the Palestinians in Gaza out of Gaza is being pursued behind the scenes by the net Nyahuo administration. We've now had mainstream reporting about the pressure that is being put on Egypt to accept hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Now they claim, oh, it would just be temporary, it's just for humanitarian reasons. But given the communications that have been potentially intentionally leaked out of the Israeli government, I think there is deep reason for skepticism about that, especially when you consider that significant parts of the net Nyahuo coalition have always had this as their stated objective. Moving on, as I mentioned at the top, we are now it's kind of hard to believe, but we're now officially one month from October seventh, when Hamas perpetrated those horrific attacks on many Israeli citizens, and that, of course, on that very day net Nyahu announced we are now at war, and they began their war on Gaza. And just the last evening we got a little bit of an indication from net Nyahoo about what he is thinking the future of Gaza may look like, or some aspect of it. In any case, let's take a listen to what he had to say on an English language. By the way, American broadcast take a lesson.

President Biden has said that it would be a mistake for Israel to occupy Gaza.

President Biden has said that it would be a mistake for Israel to occupy Gaza.

Who should govern Gaza when this is over?

Who should govern Gaza when this is over?

Those who don't want to continue the way of Hamas, and certainly is not. I think Israel will, for an indefinite period, will have the overall security responsibility, because we've seen what happens when we don't have it. When we don't have that security responsibility, what we have is the eruption of Hamas terror on a scale that we couldn't imagine.

Those who don't want to continue the way of Hamas, and certainly is not. I think Israel will, for an indefinite period, will have the overall security responsibility, because we've seen what happens when we don't have it. When we don't have that security responsibility, what we have is the eruption of Hamas terror on a scale that we couldn't imagine.

So he's basically floating there a reoccupation. He's trying to parse the wording because the Americans, Biden has expressly said he thinks it's a bad idea for Israel to reoccupy Gaza.

So he's basically floating there a reoccupation. He's trying to parse the wording because the Americans, Biden has expressly said he thinks it's a bad idea for Israel to reoccupy Gaza.

What did you make of this comment?

What did you make of this comment?

Saga, Well, welcome to Iraq two thousand and four. You've broken it, and now you've bought it, and now you're going to have to live with the consequences. And this is where Look, they're in a hellish situation no matter what, because their past strategy was the only real politically.

Saga, Well, welcome to Iraq two thousand and four. You've broken it, and now you've bought it, and now you're going to have to live with the consequences. And this is where Look, they're in a hellish situation no matter what, because their past strategy was the only real politically.

Viable one thing was going to happen. I mean viable.

Viable one thing was going to happen. I mean viable.

I didn't say it was just, but it was at least calm ish right before, you're talking about from an Israeli perspective, They're like, well, yeah, we know, we surrounded with a bunch of fences.

I didn't say it was just, but it was at least calm ish right before, you're talking about from an Israeli perspective, They're like, well, yeah, we know, we surrounded with a bunch of fences.

Hamas governs it. It is what it is.

Hamas governs it. It is what it is.

You know, every once in a while, we mow the grass. That's how it goes. Then they said that that is intolerable. Well, you know, if you're going to be responsible now for the security situation, that is going to mean a full scale military occupation. We're not even talking about settlers or any of that other stuff. I'm talking about Israeli IDF troops setting up checkpoints, letting people go through. Ask any American soldier who had to man a checkpoint interact. A lot of those guys, well, they were faced with suicide bombers, they were faced with horrible ambushes, attacks. They were the vector of like so much violence, not even to mention like the civil war situation. So if that is the case, if you're saying you're gonna have an indefinite occupation, which what the United States signed up for before the first Iraqi elections and you know, the Bunk elections honestly in two thousand and four, well again, I mean, I would just say good luck to you, because you're going to need tens to hundreds of thousands of troops to have a security over two something million people. Let's say even that there is you know, one point five million or something like that left. I don't know, you know what the actual number will be. It's still so tremendously difficult in that small amount of area to have security to set up. And now this is the other thing when you say security situation, as America found out in Iraq. You can just want to be responsible for security. But when you're ending up responsible for security, now you're running the water system, now you're running the electricity grid, now you're running like civil services. Now you have to set up departments to make sure that you know, oh, well, what happens when one shake hates another shake and shoots at him, And you're like, well, I guess we got to figure this out. That's exactly what you are signing up for. So when he says indefinite occupation or indefinite security for a temporary pier or indefinite security situation, you are signing up for an occupation or you are signing up for a return to the status.

You know, every once in a while, we mow the grass. That's how it goes. Then they said that that is intolerable. Well, you know, if you're going to be responsible now for the security situation, that is going to mean a full scale military occupation. We're not even talking about settlers or any of that other stuff. I'm talking about Israeli IDF troops setting up checkpoints, letting people go through. Ask any American soldier who had to man a checkpoint interact. A lot of those guys, well, they were faced with suicide bombers, they were faced with horrible ambushes, attacks. They were the vector of like so much violence, not even to mention like the civil war situation. So if that is the case, if you're saying you're gonna have an indefinite occupation, which what the United States signed up for before the first Iraqi elections and you know, the Bunk elections honestly in two thousand and four, well again, I mean, I would just say good luck to you, because you're going to need tens to hundreds of thousands of troops to have a security over two something million people. Let's say even that there is you know, one point five million or something like that left. I don't know, you know what the actual number will be. It's still so tremendously difficult in that small amount of area to have security to set up. And now this is the other thing when you say security situation, as America found out in Iraq. You can just want to be responsible for security. But when you're ending up responsible for security, now you're running the water system, now you're running the electricity grid, now you're running like civil services. Now you have to set up departments to make sure that you know, oh, well, what happens when one shake hates another shake and shoots at him, And you're like, well, I guess we got to figure this out. That's exactly what you are signing up for. So when he says indefinite occupation or indefinite security for a temporary pier or indefinite security situation, you are signing up for an occupation or you are signing up for a return to the status.

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I would personally hope, just for everybody's sake, that it's at least that as opposed to the other, because the other think about how incendiary it is to have IDF troops in a full scale military occupation of Gaza now for quote unquote an indefinite period of time. That just means that, and maybe we should have believed them at the top when they're like, yeah, it's going to go on for years in terms of the war. That is what low grade and I don't mean that, I mean low grade war that just goes on for years and years. And the real issue is if you don't have the political sustainability to sign up for something like that, and it will just lead to the worst of all worlds, where're going to have a massive deterioration of the security situation. And let's you know, just like what happened to America in Iraq is a lot of the populace got radicalized against us and it actually made things ten times worse than if we hadn't invaded in the first place. So I'm personally very dubious that this will I'm personally dubious that this is actually possible. But that does not mean that just like we did that they won't try. They're going to find out all the same lessons that we did.

I would personally hope, just for everybody's sake, that it's at least that as opposed to the other, because the other think about how incendiary it is to have IDF troops in a full scale military occupation of Gaza now for quote unquote an indefinite period of time. That just means that, and maybe we should have believed them at the top when they're like, yeah, it's going to go on for years in terms of the war. That is what low grade and I don't mean that, I mean low grade war that just goes on for years and years. And the real issue is if you don't have the political sustainability to sign up for something like that, and it will just lead to the worst of all worlds, where're going to have a massive deterioration of the security situation. And let's you know, just like what happened to America in Iraq is a lot of the populace got radicalized against us and it actually made things ten times worse than if we hadn't invaded in the first place. So I'm personally very dubious that this will I'm personally dubious that this is actually possible. But that does not mean that just like we did that they won't try. They're going to find out all the same lessons that we did.

Yeah, and that's and that's without even you know, discussing the utter humiliation, degradation, brutality that would be life for all of the residents of Gaza, the you know, the children there. Of course, it's one of the youngest populations in the entire world, and what that would look like for them on a day to day basis. And I think Sager's one hundred percent right when he says this is not a strategy to keep Israel safe, it's certainly not a strategy for the humanity and dignity of the Palestinian people. And you know, the other open question I think we always have to keep in mind is whether it's even going to be net and Yahoo in place leading this government. And also, you know, he is a liar, so what he says now could change a minute from now. And you know, it's I think the pressure that is being reported behind the scenes to just end the Palestinian statehood question once and for all, push all of the Palestinians out of Gaza. We already see the violent efforts for settlers backed by the IDF to aggressively push Palestinis off of their land in the West Bank as well. I think the writing is on the wall for a lot of these things. So, as we've been discussing, it is exactly one month to the day since October seventh. We can put up on the screen what we know of the death toll that has been exacted on Israelis and also on Palestinians. So fourteen hundred as we know Israel Israeli citizens killed on October seventh. Since then, we've had somewhere around ten thousand deaths in Gaza. Of course, it is very difficult to know because of all of the barriers that we've discussed before.

Yeah, and that's and that's without even you know, discussing the utter humiliation, degradation, brutality that would be life for all of the residents of Gaza, the you know, the children there. Of course, it's one of the youngest populations in the entire world, and what that would look like for them on a day to day basis. And I think Sager's one hundred percent right when he says this is not a strategy to keep Israel safe, it's certainly not a strategy for the humanity and dignity of the Palestinian people. And you know, the other open question I think we always have to keep in mind is whether it's even going to be net and Yahoo in place leading this government. And also, you know, he is a liar, so what he says now could change a minute from now. And you know, it's I think the pressure that is being reported behind the scenes to just end the Palestinian statehood question once and for all, push all of the Palestinians out of Gaza. We already see the violent efforts for settlers backed by the IDF to aggressively push Palestinis off of their land in the West Bank as well. I think the writing is on the wall for a lot of these things. So, as we've been discussing, it is exactly one month to the day since October seventh. We can put up on the screen what we know of the death toll that has been exacted on Israelis and also on Palestinians. So fourteen hundred as we know Israel Israeli citizens killed on October seventh. Since then, we've had somewhere around ten thousand deaths in Gaza. Of course, it is very difficult to know because of all of the barriers that we've discussed before.

There is actually an indicasion put this up on.

There is actually an indicasion put this up on.

The screen from a senior Israeli military source to an Israeli news outlet that they actually think that twenty thousand have been killed in Gaza by IDF attacks.

The screen from a senior Israeli military source to an Israeli news outlet that they actually think that twenty thousand have been killed in Gaza by IDF attacks.

They claim most of terrorists.

They claim most of terrorists.

I think we can see from the number of women and children have been killed that that is unfathomable that that would be accurate.

I think we can see from the number of women and children have been killed that that is unfathomable that that would be accurate.

So again, very difficult to say.

So again, very difficult to say.

Ryan over at the Intercept, they did some reporting to try to verify. Okay, you know the Health Ministry and Gaza, they're the ones we get the death numbers from, and the Biden Ad ministration has been trying to throw cold water in this because they're run by Hamas, even though in previous conflicts their death counts and casualty rates have been pretty accurate. But based on the list of individuals that they put out that had been killed, Ryan was able to cross check that with people that were known to have been killed in and actually understated by some amount the number of deaths. So in any case, whatever the number is, we know that it is significant. We know that there are a lot of civilians, and that this has been incredibly brutal of a response from the Israelis. We can also tell that by this math. Let's put this up on the screen that shows you the level of destruction in the Gaza strip. So keep this up on the screen, tie and explain a little bit of what you were looking at. The orange that you see on this map is damage that was inflicted in the first roughly two weeks, so from October seventh to October twenty fifth of this war on Gaza. The red areas that you see here are the damaged areas since October twenty fifth. You can see Israeli ground operation, you can see Israeli incursions, you can see Israeli artillery, air strikes, you can see reported fighting. And one thing while we have this up on the screen, that you can see very clearly, Yes, the northern part of Gaza that you see there has been i mean vast loss of it destroyed. But it's not like the south where people were told to flee, has been unscathed either. And you can see actually quite a lot of red, which is the more recent damage that has occurred in that area. Let's go ahead and put this next piece up on the screen. That gives you a sense of just how much firepower has been used in this, you know, month, which is in a grand scheme of things, a very short period of time. A European human rights group called the euro met Human Rights Monitor. They calculated that Israel has dropped more than twenty five thousand tons of explosives on the Gaza strip since the start of this bombardment on October seventh. That is roughly equivalent to two nuclear bombs of the variety that we dropped in Japan. So, you know, when we're talking about nukes and the Israeli minister who said, hey, maybe that's one option, Well, this isn't dropping a nuclear bomb, but the level of explosives have been just as catastrophic. Put this next piece up on the screen, just as another way of intellectualizing how much firepower we're talking about here. Israel dropped almost as many bombs in Gaza in one week one week as the US did in Afghanistan in their heaviest year of bombardment. And for reference here Gaza is just one hundred and forty one square miles. The whole thing Afghanistan, of course, Ava's country two hundred and fifty two thousand plus square miles. So gives you a sense of just how intense and indiscriminate this bombing campaign has been thus far.

Ryan over at the Intercept, they did some reporting to try to verify. Okay, you know the Health Ministry and Gaza, they're the ones we get the death numbers from, and the Biden Ad ministration has been trying to throw cold water in this because they're run by Hamas, even though in previous conflicts their death counts and casualty rates have been pretty accurate. But based on the list of individuals that they put out that had been killed, Ryan was able to cross check that with people that were known to have been killed in and actually understated by some amount the number of deaths. So in any case, whatever the number is, we know that it is significant. We know that there are a lot of civilians, and that this has been incredibly brutal of a response from the Israelis. We can also tell that by this math. Let's put this up on the screen that shows you the level of destruction in the Gaza strip. So keep this up on the screen, tie and explain a little bit of what you were looking at. The orange that you see on this map is damage that was inflicted in the first roughly two weeks, so from October seventh to October twenty fifth of this war on Gaza. The red areas that you see here are the damaged areas since October twenty fifth. You can see Israeli ground operation, you can see Israeli incursions, you can see Israeli artillery, air strikes, you can see reported fighting. And one thing while we have this up on the screen, that you can see very clearly, Yes, the northern part of Gaza that you see there has been i mean vast loss of it destroyed. But it's not like the south where people were told to flee, has been unscathed either. And you can see actually quite a lot of red, which is the more recent damage that has occurred in that area. Let's go ahead and put this next piece up on the screen. That gives you a sense of just how much firepower has been used in this, you know, month, which is in a grand scheme of things, a very short period of time. A European human rights group called the euro met Human Rights Monitor. They calculated that Israel has dropped more than twenty five thousand tons of explosives on the Gaza strip since the start of this bombardment on October seventh. That is roughly equivalent to two nuclear bombs of the variety that we dropped in Japan. So, you know, when we're talking about nukes and the Israeli minister who said, hey, maybe that's one option, Well, this isn't dropping a nuclear bomb, but the level of explosives have been just as catastrophic. Put this next piece up on the screen, just as another way of intellectualizing how much firepower we're talking about here. Israel dropped almost as many bombs in Gaza in one week one week as the US did in Afghanistan in their heaviest year of bombardment. And for reference here Gaza is just one hundred and forty one square miles. The whole thing Afghanistan, of course, Ava's country two hundred and fifty two thousand plus square miles. So gives you a sense of just how intense and indiscriminate this bombing campaign has been thus far.

Soccer, well, the issue that they really have is that in terms of the number of these munitions. I remember, because I covered this a lot, the Battle of Mosul also with Isis, we were actually dropping so many bombs that we ran out of precision guided munitions. So I actually do have a lot of questions here in terms of Israel and like are we going to restock this? If so, it actually took us years to restock the number that we were able to drop on them. Who are they manufacturing some of these what exactly some of these bombs are I actually recommend people go and read this piece.

Soccer, well, the issue that they really have is that in terms of the number of these munitions. I remember, because I covered this a lot, the Battle of Mosul also with Isis, we were actually dropping so many bombs that we ran out of precision guided munitions. So I actually do have a lot of questions here in terms of Israel and like are we going to restock this? If so, it actually took us years to restock the number that we were able to drop on them. Who are they manufacturing some of these what exactly some of these bombs are I actually recommend people go and read this piece.

It's pretty interesting.

It's pretty interesting.

It's about the quote secrecy shrouds the Israeli targeting process because the Israelis, and you know when I spend time there, they would always hammer this in. They're like, look, we have the most precision guided munitions, like we have a very They're like we have a process like we you know, the door knock, we knock on the roof, we send the text messages, we try and clear out as much as possible before we strike a building, and we have a pretty good ability to tell you, like which floor that we're able to strike. I heard a lot of this too from the Pentagon whenever that was happening. I mean, I think that the biggest issue that they have is that it's just very clear when you have a massive intel failure on October seven, it really calls into question so many of the things that they were able to assure the US military.

It's about the quote secrecy shrouds the Israeli targeting process because the Israelis, and you know when I spend time there, they would always hammer this in. They're like, look, we have the most precision guided munitions, like we have a very They're like we have a process like we you know, the door knock, we knock on the roof, we send the text messages, we try and clear out as much as possible before we strike a building, and we have a pretty good ability to tell you, like which floor that we're able to strike. I heard a lot of this too from the Pentagon whenever that was happening. I mean, I think that the biggest issue that they have is that it's just very clear when you have a massive intel failure on October seven, it really calls into question so many of the things that they were able to assure the US military.

You know, even people like me, like while I was.

You know, even people like me, like while I was.

There, who were listening and I was like, oh, okay, you know, I mean, they say, we'll see and whenever you start to see some of this, you know, in terms of the tens of thousands of munitions now that have been dropped, like I said, it really comes to question about the supply issues, about what their ultimate aims are and all that. So, look, the biggest issue I think is that as they continue to have a loss of the trust deficit with broadly the international community, including the United States, Let's be honest.

There, who were listening and I was like, oh, okay, you know, I mean, they say, we'll see and whenever you start to see some of this, you know, in terms of the tens of thousands of munitions now that have been dropped, like I said, it really comes to question about the supply issues, about what their ultimate aims are and all that. So, look, the biggest issue I think is that as they continue to have a loss of the trust deficit with broadly the international community, including the United States, Let's be honest.

I mean, John Kirby.

I mean, John Kirby.

Yesterday, the State NSC spokesperson was like, well, you know, we have some indication that they're trying to reduce similar civilian casualty, but that's not an endorsement of what they're doing.

Yesterday, the State NSC spokesperson was like, well, you know, we have some indication that they're trying to reduce similar civilian casualty, but that's not an endorsement of what they're doing.

It's like, what what are you saying?

It's like, what what are you saying?

Right, It's like it's like triple speak, just say what we actually think, man, right, And so anyway, I think that they are truly suffering from they feel and this is from what you know from my recent communications with Isra. They feel justified for the carnage of October seventh. They're like, look, we're the more powerful, so yeah, we're going to queue up, like that's how it works.

Right, It's like it's like triple speak, just say what we actually think, man, right, And so anyway, I think that they are truly suffering from they feel and this is from what you know from my recent communications with Isra. They feel justified for the carnage of October seventh. They're like, look, we're the more powerful, so yeah, we're going to queue up, like that's how it works.

Well.

Well.

I think the issue is that they're losing political capital in the US and especially in the broader international world, and they feel especially like they don't have to justify a damn thing to America and to the rest of the world, and to them, I would say, you got to again think back to some of the lessons that we learned in Iraq, because a lot of early US commanders used to think the same way. By the time of two thousand seventeen rolled around. We and I talked about this yesterday. The Pentagon and everybody was doing extensive briefing operations to make sure every single target that was hit in Iraq and Syria. They showed you a video. They're like, Hey, here's the oil rig that they were using.

I think the issue is that they're losing political capital in the US and especially in the broader international world, and they feel especially like they don't have to justify a damn thing to America and to the rest of the world, and to them, I would say, you got to again think back to some of the lessons that we learned in Iraq, because a lot of early US commanders used to think the same way. By the time of two thousand seventeen rolled around. We and I talked about this yesterday. The Pentagon and everybody was doing extensive briefing operations to make sure every single target that was hit in Iraq and Syria. They showed you a video. They're like, Hey, here's the oil rig that they were using.

Here's what we.

Here's what we.

Came in and we bombed it with. Here's why we bombed it. Here are the guys that we killed. It was like trying to get ahead of any potential outrage or ISIS claiming that civilians were killed and all that. I think it was a hard fought lesson that we had to learn in Iraq and Afghanistan, and eventually, how I watched the US military operate in the late twenty tens is we really learned that if you don't get ahead of it, and you don't have at least some level of trust for a lot of people that what you're doing is actually fitting with what you're saying, well, you're really gonna lose you know, a lot of people. And unfortunately for them, I think that they're heading very much down that road with the number of munitions dropped, with the level of secrecy that is involved, and everyone's like that's their right, Yeah, I'm not just you can do whatever you want.

Came in and we bombed it with. Here's why we bombed it. Here are the guys that we killed. It was like trying to get ahead of any potential outrage or ISIS claiming that civilians were killed and all that. I think it was a hard fought lesson that we had to learn in Iraq and Afghanistan, and eventually, how I watched the US military operate in the late twenty tens is we really learned that if you don't get ahead of it, and you don't have at least some level of trust for a lot of people that what you're doing is actually fitting with what you're saying, well, you're really gonna lose you know, a lot of people. And unfortunately for them, I think that they're heading very much down that road with the number of munitions dropped, with the level of secrecy that is involved, and everyone's like that's their right, Yeah, I'm not just you can do whatever you want.

That's not what I'm talking about.

That's not what I'm talking about.

What I'm talking about here is if you want to live in the law, if you want to live and survive in the long run. I don't think that they're headed to us. I don't think they're operating in a sustainable way. I think something is going to break eventually.

What I'm talking about here is if you want to live in the law, if you want to live and survive in the long run. I don't think that they're headed to us. I don't think they're operating in a sustainable way. I think something is going to break eventually.

And they've been using through you know, throwing in our face, which putin did as well our conduct in Iraq and Afghanistan and the number of civilians that we killed, and there's no justification for the way that we conducted ourselves in those words, there was no justification for the Iraq invasion whatsoever, and there was no justification for the lengthy occupation of Afghanistan. Well, I think it was the you know, justified to go in to try to get Bin Lun when we failed at that, like that was the task, and then we stay there for forever. It really is shocking to me to see the you know, outright advocation for ethnic cleansing and outright like hey, there are no innocent civilians not only being advocated directly that perspective being laid out directly from the net Yahoo government, echoed by at least one member of the United States Congress here the total justification of killing of children. I mean, I saw Fox News segment yesterday where the dude was like, yeah, you know, they could be stopping on suicide bombs these children. I really like, it is another level to me to see this just brazenly advocated for this viewpoint, the total indiscriminate bombing, the overwhelming nature of this, I mean, I just I truly am shocked by it, and so Sago when you're talking about like Kirby being like, well, it seems like they try maybe to do a little bit for civilians. But I'm not endorsing. I mean these liberals like Biden, who have put a lot of stock and said a lot of stuff about the international rules based order, they have no cover here whatsoever. And of course Israel is not going to respect any little like face saving humanitarian pause gestures, and they're certainly not going to respect any calls for a ceasefire when there is no willingness to use the incredible significant leverage that we have in the form of our military weapons and our aid dollars. There's no willingness to take that off the table. Of course, they're not going to listen to us. But you know, I know there's a lot of like, well, why you know, Hamas targeted civilians, so why should they be held to a different standard than Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization. You're holding yourself out as like the beacon of the civilized world within the Middle East. Of course, there's a different standard, and it's insane to me that you would suggest otherwise. Like the number of documented likely war crimes that have been committed here in a month are I mean again, I expect brutality from the Israelis based on their previous mo the lawn operations, but this is another level and just the last piece that we have here before we get into you know what a difficult situation this has been for journalists, both in terms of coverage and also in terms of journalists on the ground just being able to live and have their families continue to live. Put this up on the screen, US reporting Israeli forces have killed eighty eight.

And they've been using through you know, throwing in our face, which putin did as well our conduct in Iraq and Afghanistan and the number of civilians that we killed, and there's no justification for the way that we conducted ourselves in those words, there was no justification for the Iraq invasion whatsoever, and there was no justification for the lengthy occupation of Afghanistan. Well, I think it was the you know, justified to go in to try to get Bin Lun when we failed at that, like that was the task, and then we stay there for forever. It really is shocking to me to see the you know, outright advocation for ethnic cleansing and outright like hey, there are no innocent civilians not only being advocated directly that perspective being laid out directly from the net Yahoo government, echoed by at least one member of the United States Congress here the total justification of killing of children. I mean, I saw Fox News segment yesterday where the dude was like, yeah, you know, they could be stopping on suicide bombs these children. I really like, it is another level to me to see this just brazenly advocated for this viewpoint, the total indiscriminate bombing, the overwhelming nature of this, I mean, I just I truly am shocked by it, and so Sago when you're talking about like Kirby being like, well, it seems like they try maybe to do a little bit for civilians. But I'm not endorsing. I mean these liberals like Biden, who have put a lot of stock and said a lot of stuff about the international rules based order, they have no cover here whatsoever. And of course Israel is not going to respect any little like face saving humanitarian pause gestures, and they're certainly not going to respect any calls for a ceasefire when there is no willingness to use the incredible significant leverage that we have in the form of our military weapons and our aid dollars. There's no willingness to take that off the table. Of course, they're not going to listen to us. But you know, I know there's a lot of like, well, why you know, Hamas targeted civilians, so why should they be held to a different standard than Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization. You're holding yourself out as like the beacon of the civilized world within the Middle East. Of course, there's a different standard, and it's insane to me that you would suggest otherwise. Like the number of documented likely war crimes that have been committed here in a month are I mean again, I expect brutality from the Israelis based on their previous mo the lawn operations, but this is another level and just the last piece that we have here before we get into you know what a difficult situation this has been for journalists, both in terms of coverage and also in terms of journalists on the ground just being able to live and have their families continue to live. Put this up on the screen, US reporting Israeli forces have killed eighty eight.

UN AID workers.

UN AID workers.

That is more than have ever been killed in a single conflict in history. Forty seven UN buildings, more than one hundred health facilities have been hit by Israeli airstrikes, and you know, to Sager's point about how you know, they don't even really try to justify a lot of these things.

That is more than have ever been killed in a single conflict in history. Forty seven UN buildings, more than one hundred health facilities have been hit by Israeli airstrikes, and you know, to Sager's point about how you know, they don't even really try to justify a lot of these things.

They do some they give them credit, like every once in a while they do actually put.

They do some they give them credit, like every once in a while they do actually put.

But to give you a sense of how thin it is. Okay, when that convoy of ambulances was hit and they were like, oh, it was terrorists, and they got asked on TV like okay, well who were they? What they They're like, we don't really know. It's like, okay, then how do you know they're terrorists?

But to give you a sense of how thin it is. Okay, when that convoy of ambulances was hit and they were like, oh, it was terrorists, and they got asked on TV like okay, well who were they? What they They're like, we don't really know. It's like, okay, then how do you know they're terrorists?

You don't even know.

You don't even know.

Apparently that October seventh was going to happen. We're supposed to take your word for it that you know that the you know who it was exactly in that ambulance you were targeting, and we're supposed to ta take your word for it. When you go on the television and you're like, yeah, we don't really know, we'll go back to you on that.

Apparently that October seventh was going to happen. We're supposed to take your word for it that you know that the you know who it was exactly in that ambulance you were targeting, and we're supposed to ta take your word for it. When you go on the television and you're like, yeah, we don't really know, we'll go back to you on that.

Come on, Well, it's like one in the US actually accidentally killed that guy at for the revenge and the ISIS attack on Afghanistan. It turned out to be a totally innocent guy who was like a water salesman or something like that.

Come on, Well, it's like one in the US actually accidentally killed that guy at for the revenge and the ISIS attack on Afghanistan. It turned out to be a totally innocent guy who was like a water salesman or something like that.

We killed his family.

We killed his family.

I would just put it on a way out of it.

I would just put it on a way out of it.

He was an aid worker US the lined aid worker.

He was an aid worker US the lined aid worker.

Yeah, here's what I would say.

Yeah, here's what I would say.

If they militarily were actually doing something whereatch I thought that they could destroy Hamas, I would support them one hundred percent. I just don't actually think that they're doing that. I mean, I think that they're making the situation far worse. I think they're putting us at risk too. I mean this is the other issue. Everyone's like, oh, support Israel, support Palestine. I mean, personally, I don't really care about either of them. I care about the United States and I keep, you know, on a human level, I'm like, yeah, I wish you the best. I've got friends in both places. But for me, I'm like, I just don't want to see US service members in borld in the war. That's like my guiding north Star was on Ukraine is here too. I'm always going to care about us more first second on that is trying to actually keep us out of some sort of conflict. Then, you know, I would look at this and I would be like, all right, so with Israel, are you actually going to destroy Hamas? Now I actually support the destruction of Hamas, but I don't think that they're doing something to genuinely lead to that effort. I mean, the US campaign against ISIS with in conjunction with the Iraqi security forces, was genuinely a masterful operation, and you know, it took months, it was much more targeted. We killed, along with the Iraqis, thousands of ISIS fighters, and there was about a one to one civilian casualty rate. I'm not saying that that's justified, but I mean, in retrospect, I think all the people who claim that was so brutal can see that if you have the similar number of civilians killed in a single month as opposed to a two year campaign, they really should shut up about what that looked like at the time. So anyway, if I thought that this was a genuinely successful military operation and had a chance of keeping both the US out and of creating some sort of sustainable situation in the future, I would cool. But the main issue for me really has been I think that they are both inflaming tensions against the United States. I don't think they're making themselves safer. I think that Netanyahu in particular is a genuinely like villainous figure, and I think that he's that so much of his personal conduct, and therefore Israel's conduct is tied up into his own ego and his own political future for the failure of that attack. And that's that's why I say that. I mean, whenever I see everything he does, his orientation is he wants to stay into power, and he wants to keep things on a longer basis so that he can keep away any sort of investigation into him in the future. And I'm like, hey, you're tied the entire nation's fate, possibly forever, onto your own political sustainable career. That's an insane thing to do. If you consider yourself a patriot. If you were to see some sort of conflict of interest like this, any genuine patriot be like, you know what, I'm too controversial.

If they militarily were actually doing something whereatch I thought that they could destroy Hamas, I would support them one hundred percent. I just don't actually think that they're doing that. I mean, I think that they're making the situation far worse. I think they're putting us at risk too. I mean this is the other issue. Everyone's like, oh, support Israel, support Palestine. I mean, personally, I don't really care about either of them. I care about the United States and I keep, you know, on a human level, I'm like, yeah, I wish you the best. I've got friends in both places. But for me, I'm like, I just don't want to see US service members in borld in the war. That's like my guiding north Star was on Ukraine is here too. I'm always going to care about us more first second on that is trying to actually keep us out of some sort of conflict. Then, you know, I would look at this and I would be like, all right, so with Israel, are you actually going to destroy Hamas? Now I actually support the destruction of Hamas, but I don't think that they're doing something to genuinely lead to that effort. I mean, the US campaign against ISIS with in conjunction with the Iraqi security forces, was genuinely a masterful operation, and you know, it took months, it was much more targeted. We killed, along with the Iraqis, thousands of ISIS fighters, and there was about a one to one civilian casualty rate. I'm not saying that that's justified, but I mean, in retrospect, I think all the people who claim that was so brutal can see that if you have the similar number of civilians killed in a single month as opposed to a two year campaign, they really should shut up about what that looked like at the time. So anyway, if I thought that this was a genuinely successful military operation and had a chance of keeping both the US out and of creating some sort of sustainable situation in the future, I would cool. But the main issue for me really has been I think that they are both inflaming tensions against the United States. I don't think they're making themselves safer. I think that Netanyahu in particular is a genuinely like villainous figure, and I think that he's that so much of his personal conduct, and therefore Israel's conduct is tied up into his own ego and his own political future for the failure of that attack. And that's that's why I say that. I mean, whenever I see everything he does, his orientation is he wants to stay into power, and he wants to keep things on a longer basis so that he can keep away any sort of investigation into him in the future. And I'm like, hey, you're tied the entire nation's fate, possibly forever, onto your own political sustainable career. That's an insane thing to do. If you consider yourself a patriot. If you were to see some sort of conflict of interest like this, any genuine patriot be like, you know what, I'm too controversial.

I'm out. You guys do a coalition government. You can figure it out.

I'm out. You guys do a coalition government. You can figure it out.

I'm you know, some sort of flame figure like this, I'll sit by on the sidelines and I'll support whoever so that we can get to some sort of solution which nobody can question, both in the world and here domestically.

I'm you know, some sort of flame figure like this, I'll sit by on the sidelines and I'll support whoever so that we can get to some sort of solution which nobody can question, both in the world and here domestically.

He's chosen not to do.

He's chosen not to do.

That, so there's a lot of and by doing that also, he has to allow these guys Smotrich and all these other you know, nut jobs who we America has never signed on to any of these West Bank Settlement people to allow in power in the government and then inflame the situation even more, deteriorating again our long political capital that we've built up now for so long in the midleast. So that's a very long way of just saying, like, listen, I'm not above supporting Israel. If they were to actually doing something which I thought would work, I would be like absolutely, one hundred percent. But I haven't seen a lot of evidence from that from day one. And the Nets and Nahu piece is actually probably the one that bothers me the most is I'm like, you do not have a real, like political sustainable coalition at the top of your government which inspires confidence in your allies that you were acting on the best, you know, on the best behalf of the Israeli people.