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A personal speech. A private AI summit. One powerful catch-up.
In this episode, Marisa and Steven reconnect in real life to reflect on two powerful weeks, from Marisa’s moving and bold speech at the UJA Marketing Leadership Awards in NY to Steven’s high-impact Alpha Board Forum in LA. Threading these two events with the larger themes of this season, the two talk about what it means to “stand up” - as professionals, as humans, and as leaders - in a time of exponential change. With candor and care, they examine how brand, identity, and humanity remain as essential as AI, agents and automation, while being unequivocal about the urgency with AI in “learning how to surf.” A thoughtful lead-up to the 2025 Cannes Lions and a powerful reminder that: how you lead is part of your brand.

A personal speech. A private AI summit. One powerful catch-up. In this episode, Marisa and Steven reconnect in real life to reflect on two powerful weeks, from Marisa&rsquo;s moving and bold speech at the UJA Marketing Leadership Awards in NY to Steven&rsquo;s high-impact Alpha Board Forum in LA. Threading these two events with the larger themes of this season, the two talk about what it means to &ldquo;stand up&rdquo; - as professionals, as humans, and as leaders - in a time of exponential change. With candor and care, they examine how brand, identity, and humanity remain as essential as AI, agents and automation, while being unequivocal about the urgency with AI in &ldquo;learning how to surf.&rdquo; A thoughtful lead-up to the 2025 Cannes Lions and a powerful reminder that: how you lead is part of your brand.

Tune in for insider insights and lively banter between two of the most dynamic and well-connected business leaders: Marisa Thalberg and Steven Wolfe Pereira.  The co-hosts, award-winning c-suite executives and close friends, keep it real as they tackle the most important and timely topics in marketing, media, tech, culture, careers, and more, particularly through the lens of brands, and the people powering them.

Tune in for insider insights and lively banter between two of the most dynamic and well-connected business leaders: Marisa Thalberg and Steven Wolfe Pereira.  The co-hosts, award-winning c-suite executives and close friends, keep it real as they tackle the most important and timely topics in marketing, media, tech, culture, careers, and more, particularly through the lens of brands, and the people powering them.

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