They say when one door closes, another one opens.  

That’s certainly been the case for Lisa King. In the same breath she closed her first business Eat My Lunch and started a drinks brand AF Drinks.

AF stands for alcohol free - and it's a range of booze free cocktails.

The brand has picked up on a huge rise in people who want to drink less or not at all.  

It’s a change not just seen in New Zealand, but across the world. Within two years in the US market, AF Drinks are now available in 4000 stores in America. 

Lisa King joined Kerre Woodham in studio for the latest episode of Bosses Unfiltered. 

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They say when one door closes, another one opens. &nbsp;
That’s certainly been the case for Lisa King. In the same breath she closed her first business Eat My Lunch and started a drinks brand AF Drinks.
AF stands for alcohol free - and it's a range of booze free cocktails.
The brand has picked up on a huge rise in people who want to drink less or not at all. &nbsp;
It’s a change not just seen in New Zealand, but across the world. Within two years in the US market, AF Drinks are now available in 4000 stores in America.&nbsp;
Lisa King joined Kerre Woodham in studio for the latest episode of&nbsp;Bosses Unfiltered.&nbsp;
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Kiwi businesses have been navigating the biggest economic turmoil in decades. Wherever you look, business leaders are making tough calls: staff cuts, putting payroll on the credit card, or worst case… closing the business altogether.  

They thought they had it all: a great idea, solid marketing, and a healthy amount of capital.  So where did it all go wrong?  And can they ever turn things around? 

In Bosses Unfiltered, Kerre Woodham, interviews prominent Kiwi businesspeople who’ve experienced failure and adversity and lets them tell their story.

When did they realise their dreams weren’t coming true?  How big was their fall from grace?  How did they pick themselves up and where are they now?  

Bosses Unfiltered tells the real story behind the headlines.  About what it’s really like being in business, in a raw and vulnerable way, while showing that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that success can quite often come from failure.

Listen to Bosses Unfiltered every Thursday morning from 11:30am during Kerre Woodham Mornings, and follow the podcast on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts.

Kiwi businesses have been navigating the biggest economic turmoil in decades. Wherever you look, business leaders are making tough calls: staff cuts, putting payroll on the credit card, or worst case&hellip; closing the business altogether. &nbsp;
They thought they had it all: a great idea, solid marketing, and a healthy amount of capital. &nbsp;So where did it all go wrong? &nbsp;And can they ever turn things around?&nbsp;
In Bosses Unfiltered, Kerre Woodham, interviews prominent Kiwi businesspeople who&rsquo;ve experienced failure and adversity and lets them tell their story.
When did they realise their dreams weren&rsquo;t coming true? &nbsp;How big was their fall from grace? &nbsp;How did they pick themselves up and where are they now? &nbsp;
Bosses Unfiltered tells the real story behind the headlines. &nbsp;About what it&rsquo;s really like being in business, in a raw and vulnerable way, while showing that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that success can quite often come from failure.
Listen to Bosses Unfiltered every Thursday morning from 11:30am during Kerre Woodham Mornings, and follow the podcast on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts.

Bosses Unfiltered tells the real story behind the headlines.  About what it’s really like being in business, in a raw and vulnerable way, while showing that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that success can quite often come from failure.

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Episode 3: Lisa King

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It’s hard enough to chase a scientific breakthrough. 

But as New Zealand company Ārepa found out it's even harder and more expenisve to defend your breakthroughs time and time again. 

Ārepa was founded in 2017 and the so called “brain drink” company was growing at a rapid pace when at the end of 2023, they hit a massive speed bump. 

That's when the Ministry for Primary Industries and an Auckland University scientist came out and said the company hadn’tactually proven better brain function at all. 

Ārepa found itself in the headlines, but for all the wrong reasons. 

The company's co-founder and co-chief executive Angus Brown told their story with Kerre Woodham on the latest episode of Bosses Unfiltered. 

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NOTE: This interview was recorded on June 4th 2025. 

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<p style="-webkit-user-drag: none; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; margin: 0px 0px 10.6667px; padding: 0px; user-select: text; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; vertical-align: baseline; font-kerning: none; background-color: transparent; color: windowtext; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px;">But as New Zealand company Ārepa found out it's even harder and more expenisve to defend your breakthroughs time and time again. 
<p style="-webkit-user-drag: none; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; margin: 0px 0px 10.6667px; padding: 0px; user-select: text; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; vertical-align: baseline; font-kerning: none; background-color: transparent; color: windowtext; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px;">Ārepa was founded in 2017 and the so called “brain drink” company was growing at a rapid pace when at the end of 2023, they hit a massive speed bump. 
<p style="-webkit-user-drag: none; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; margin: 0px 0px 10.6667px; padding: 0px; user-select: text; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; vertical-align: baseline; font-kerning: none; background-color: transparent; color: windowtext; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px;">That's when the Ministry for Primary Industries and an Auckland University scientist came out and said the company hadn’tactually proven better brain function at all. 
<p style="-webkit-user-drag: none; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; margin: 0px 0px 10.6667px; padding: 0px; user-select: text; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; vertical-align: baseline; font-kerning: none; background-color: transparent; color: windowtext; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px;">Ārepa found itself in the headlines, but for all the wrong reasons. 
<p style="-webkit-user-drag: none; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; margin: 0px 0px 10.6667px; padding: 0px; user-select: text; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; vertical-align: baseline; font-kerning: none; background-color: transparent; color: windowtext; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px;">The company's co-founder and co-chief executive Angus Brown told their story with Kerre Woodham on the latest episode of Bosses Unfiltered. 
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<p style="-webkit-user-drag: none; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; margin: 0px 0px 10.6667px; padding: 0px; user-select: text; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; vertical-align: baseline; font-kerning: none; background-color: transparent; color: windowtext; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px;">NOTE: This interview was recorded on June 4th 2025.

Episode 7: Angus Brown

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New Zealand produces enough food to feed 40 million people. Some of it we consume and some some we export.

 But a staggering 30% of the food we make or grow goes to waste. 

Fruit and vegetables need to look a certain way to make it onto supermarket shelves – or they get tossed.  

Angus Simms and his partner Katie Jackson wanted to tackle that problem - so they started Wonky Box three years ago. 

This is the subscription food box full of wonky fruit and veg that’s delivered to your door. 

Their business has grown way bigger and faster than they ever thought, but it hasn’t been smooth sailing along the way.  

Angus joined Kerre Woodham in the latest episode of Bosses Unfiltered to share his story. 

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New Zealand produces enough food to feed 40 million people. Some of it we consume and some some we export.
&nbsp;But a staggering 30% of the food we make or grow goes to waste.&nbsp;
Fruit and vegetables need to look a certain way to make it onto supermarket shelves – or they get tossed. &nbsp;
Angus Simms and his partner Katie Jackson wanted to tackle that problem - so they started Wonky Box three years ago.&nbsp;
This is the subscription food box full of wonky fruit and veg that’s delivered to your door.&nbsp;
Their business has grown way bigger and faster than they ever thought, but it hasn’t been smooth sailing along the way. &nbsp;
Angus joined Kerre Woodham in the latest episode of&nbsp;Bosses Unfiltered to share his story.&nbsp;
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Episode 6: Angus Simms

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What do you do, when you have invested all your money into an idea you thought was going off, and then the whole world shuts down?  

Do you try to fight on? Or do you completely change your business to survive? 

That’s the decision Aidan Bartlett faced.  

He’s the co-founder and chief Executive of online marketplace Designer Wardrobe. It was, once upon a time, a designer rental shop.  

Covid-19 wrecked the business but also gave it a new life.  

Aidan Bartlett joined Kerre Woodham in studio in the latest episode of Bosses Unfiltered. 

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What do you do, when you have invested all your money into an idea you thought was going off, and then the whole world shuts down? &nbsp;
Do you try to fight on? Or do you completely change your business to survive?&nbsp;
That’s the decision Aidan Bartlett faced. &nbsp;
He’s the co-founder and chief Executive of online marketplace Designer Wardrobe. It was, once upon a time, a designer rental shop. &nbsp;
Covid-19 wrecked the business but also gave it a new life. &nbsp;
Aidan Bartlett joined Kerre Woodham in studio in the latest episode of&nbsp;Bosses Unfiltered.&nbsp;
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Episode 5: Aidan Bartlett

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