In 1985 a skull and partial remains are found in a plastic bag near Channel Islands Harbor in Oxnard, California. Thinking the remains are from a recent victim, investigators work to solve what they think is a murder. Failing to identify the victim, the case goes cold. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the scientists at Othram Labs developed a DNA extract from the evidence and were able to identify “Ventura County Jane Doe "as the victim of a grave robbing that happened after her death in 1915. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will share the story of Gertrude Elliot-Littlehale, a woman born in 1864 and the amazing life she lived well before she became the unidentified “cold case” of “Ventura County Jane Doe”. Othram Labs is helping solve cases that seem unsolvable with the help of everyday people willing to make a small donation at DNASOLVES.COM Please take a moment of your time and visit DNASOLVES.COM and see how you can help solve a case.  







Transcript Highlights 

00:00:08 Introduction of Ventura County Jane Doe 

00:03:44 Discussion of Skull found in a bag in 1985 

00:07:19 Talk about history and DNA 

00:11:58 Discussion identifying bodies 

00:15:13 Talk about going from 1985 back to 1864 

00:20:49 Discussion of dogs and old bones 

00:24:14 Discussion of forensic anthropologist 

00:29:04 Discussion of “suture lines” 

00:33:03 Talk about solving crimes with DNA 

00:38:20 Discussion of building a family tree 

00:42:12 Discussion of “Gertie” and her life 

00:46:50 Talk about Othram Labs 

In 1985 a skull and partial remains are found in a plastic bag near Channel Islands Harbor in Oxnard, California. Thinking the remains are from a recent victim, investigators work to solve what they think is a murder. Failing to identify the victim, the case goes cold. On this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain how the scientists at Othram Labs developed a DNA extract from the evidence and were able to identify “Ventura County Jane Doe "as the victim of a grave robbing that happened after her death in 1915. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack will share the story of Gertrude Elliot-Littlehale, a woman born in 1864 and the amazing life she lived well before she became the unidentified “cold case” of “Ventura County Jane Doe”. Othram Labs is helping solve cases that seem unsolvable with the help of everyday people willing to make a small donation at DNASOLVES.COM Please take a moment of your time and visit DNASOLVES.COM and see how you can help solve a case.  
 
 
 
Transcript Highlights 
00:00:08 Introduction of Ventura County Jane Doe 
00:03:44 Discussion of Skull found in a bag in 1985 
00:07:19 Talk about history and DNA 
00:11:58 Discussion identifying bodies 
00:15:13 Talk about going from 1985 back to 1864 
00:20:49 Discussion of dogs and old bones 
00:24:14 Discussion of forensic anthropologist 
00:29:04 Discussion of “suture lines” 
00:33:03 Talk about solving crimes with DNA 
00:38:20 Discussion of building a family tree 
00:42:12 Discussion of “Gertie” and her life 
00:46:50 Talk about Othram Labs

Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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Skull Found in Plastic Bag in 1985 Identified; Victim Born in 1864

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Recorded LIVE at CrimeCon Nashville, 2024, in this Episode of Body Bags,  Joseph Scott Morgan explains how he challenges his class at Jacksonville State University to try and solve a cold case. Two years in a row, two different classes and students choose the unsolved murder of Blake Chappell. Blake Chappell tells his mother he is having the best night of his life with his girlfriend at the East Coweta High School Homecoming Dance. Within a matter of hours, Blake will find himself chased out of his girlfriend’s house in the middle of the night, walking down the road at 5 a.m. texting his girlfriend, and telling her police just stopped and talked to him. One last text to his girlfriend that he is getting cold, and his phone goes quiet. Blake Chappell is 17 and he never makes it back to his friend’s house. He just vanishes into thin air. It is October 16, 2011. Two months later on December 17, 2011, his nearly naked body is found floating in a creek, he has been shot in the back of the head. The case is still unsolved. But new search warrants were served in March 2024, will there be justice for Blake Chappell? 





Transcript Highlights 

00:00:13 Introduction Blake Chappel Case 

00:04:40 Discuss of family financial issues 

00:08:28 Blake finds ex-girlfriend who ran away 

00:10:32 Blake beaten up by ex’s stepfather 

00:12:26 Blake put in jail for finding his ex 

00:17:35 Mother takes Blake and date to homecoming dance 

00:20:48 Discussion of Blake activities walking in the night 

00:24:24 Talk about Blake walking miles to see girlfriend 

00:28:08 Talk about Blake texting girlfriend 

00:31:49 Talk about Blake doesn’t make it back to Austin’s house 

00:37:36 Discussion Blake shot in back of head 

00:43:22 Discussion rumors about Blake’s death 

00:48:12 Discussion Blake found wearing underwear, no shoes 

00:52:34 Conclusion Joseph Scott Morgan lets his JSU class pick unsolved crime to solve 

Two years in a row the case of Blake Chappel is chosen for the project 

Recorded LIVE at CrimeCon Nashville, 2024, in this Episode of Body Bags,  Joseph Scott Morgan explains how he challenges his class at Jacksonville State University to try and solve a cold case. Two years in a row, two different classes and students choose the unsolved murder of Blake Chappell. Blake Chappell tells his mother he is having the best night of his life with his girlfriend at the East Coweta High School Homecoming Dance. Within a matter of hours, Blake will find himself chased out of his girlfriend’s house in the middle of the night, walking down the road at 5 a.m. texting his girlfriend, and telling her police just stopped and talked to him. One last text to his girlfriend that he is getting cold, and his phone goes quiet. Blake Chappell is 17 and he never makes it back to his friend’s house. He just vanishes into thin air. It is October 16, 2011. Two months later on December 17, 2011, his nearly naked body is found floating in a creek, he has been shot in the back of the head. The case is still unsolved. But new search warrants were served in March 2024, will there be justice for Blake Chappell? 
 
 
Transcript Highlights 
00:00:13 Introduction Blake Chappel Case 
00:04:40 Discuss of family financial issues 
00:08:28 Blake finds ex-girlfriend who ran away 
00:10:32 Blake beaten up by ex’s stepfather 
00:12:26 Blake put in jail for finding his ex 
00:17:35 Mother takes Blake and date to homecoming dance 
00:20:48 Discussion of Blake activities walking in the night 
00:24:24 Talk about Blake walking miles to see girlfriend 
00:28:08 Talk about Blake texting girlfriend 
00:31:49 Talk about Blake doesn’t make it back to Austin’s house 
00:37:36 Discussion Blake shot in back of head 
00:43:22 Discussion rumors about Blake’s death 
00:48:12 Discussion Blake found wearing underwear, no shoes 
00:52:34 Conclusion Joseph Scott Morgan lets his JSU class pick unsolved crime to solve 
Two years in a row the case of Blake Chappel is chosen for the project

Teen Missing Two Months, Found Naked, Shot in Back of Head

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Herb Baumeister lived more than just a “double life."

On this episode of "Body Bags," Joseph Scott Morgan explains how it is possible that Baumeister had over 10,000 remains on his million-dollar estate, and Dave Mack dives into the background of the married, father and businessman who owned two Save-a-lot stores in Indianapolis.

Baumeister, who took his own life in 1996, is suspected of enticing gay men to his home, where he killed them and disposed of their bodies at the rear of his property.

Investigators suspected that Baumeister, a married father of three at the time who frequented gay bars, enticed unsuspecting men to his property to murder them. By 1999, investigators connected him to the disappearance of at least 16 men since 1980.

Some of the victims’ bodies were discovered discarded in shallow streams in rural central Indiana and western Ohio

For 30 years, investigators have been working to identify thousands of human remains, will they ever know the truth about how many people Herb Baumeister murdered?

Transcript Highlights 

00:00:13 Introduction of serial killer graveyard 

00:04:40 Discuss killer double life, wife claims she didn’t know anything 

00:08:28 Talk about trying to identify bone from other items 

00:12:26 Discussion of Forensic anthropologists 

00:17:35 Discussion of hiding secrets from family 

00:20:48 Talk about serial killer obsession with dead animals 

00:24:24 Discussion of the depth of depravity  

00:28:08 Discussion of skeletonized body on the property 

00:31:49 Talk about trying to render body down to ash 

00:36:36 Discussion of method of destruction after burning 

00:40:22 Discussion of other serial killers 

00:44:12 Talk about the size of the property 

00:44:34 Conclusion 

Herb Baumeister lived more than just a “double life."
On this episode of "Body Bags," Joseph Scott Morgan explains how it is possible that Baumeister had over 10,000 remains on his million-dollar estate, and Dave Mack dives into the background of the married, father and businessman who owned two Save-a-lot stores in Indianapolis.
Baumeister, who took his own life in 1996, is suspected of enticing gay men to his home, where he killed them and disposed of their bodies at the rear of his property.
Investigators suspected that Baumeister, a married father of three at the time who frequented gay bars, enticed unsuspecting men to his property to murder them. By 1999, investigators connected him to the disappearance of at least 16 men since 1980.
Some of the victims’ bodies were discovered discarded in shallow streams in rural central Indiana and western Ohio
For 30 years, investigators have been working to identify thousands of human remains, will they ever know the truth about how many people Herb Baumeister murdered?
Transcript Highlights 
00:00:13 Introduction of serial killer graveyard 
00:04:40 Discuss killer double life, wife claims she didn’t know anything 
00:08:28 Talk about trying to identify bone from other items 
00:12:26 Discussion of Forensic anthropologists 
00:17:35 Discussion of hiding secrets from family 
00:20:48 Talk about serial killer obsession with dead animals 
00:24:24 Discussion of the depth of depravity  
00:28:08 Discussion of skeletonized body on the property 
00:31:49 Talk about trying to render body down to ash 
00:36:36 Discussion of method of destruction after burning 
00:40:22 Discussion of other serial killers 
00:44:12 Talk about the size of the property 
00:44:34 Conclusion

10,000 Human Remains Found on Serial Killer’s Farm

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Why did police serve another search warrant at the home of Rex Heuermann? Remember, his wife and children still live in the house. After his original arrest and the search warrants were served, pictures appeared in the press showing the damage done as the home was stripped. What did they miss? Why did they bring out the ME? On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will take you into the house and what the ME might be looking for as well as the crime scenes and what has been found. Dave Mack will explain the “To-Do” list and go over the electronics Heuermann has been keeping for decades.  











Transcript Highlights

00:00:00 Introduction: Bernice Worden last victim of Ed Gein 

00:02:20 Discussion of Gilgo document release 

00:06:54 Talk about being on a jury 

00:09:44 Discussion – warning about content of episode 

00:13:55 Discussion of why go back with another search warrant? 

00:19:05 Talk about Rex Heuermann and the list he created 

00:23:11 Discussion of Heuermann electronics 

00:27:02 Discussion of Rex Heuermann planning note began in 2000 

00:30:59 Talk about violent, sexual torture 

00:34:17 Discussion of going to a scene, police don’t know what they have 

00:38:35 Talk about mutilated body a few miles from home 

00:42:15 Talk about access to material was different in the 1990s 

00:42:50 Conclusion, why they called the ME out to the scene 

Why did police serve another search warrant at the home of Rex Heuermann? Remember, his wife and children still live in the house. After his original arrest and the search warrants were served, pictures appeared in the press showing the damage done as the home was stripped. What did they miss? Why did they bring out the ME? On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will take you into the house and what the ME might be looking for as well as the crime scenes and what has been found. Dave Mack will explain the “To-Do” list and go over the electronics Heuermann has been keeping for decades.  
 
 
 
 
 
Transcript Highlights
00:00:00 Introduction: Bernice Worden last victim of Ed Gein 
00:02:20 Discussion of Gilgo document release 
00:06:54 Talk about being on a jury 
00:09:44 Discussion – warning about content of episode 
00:13:55 Discussion of why go back with another search warrant? 
00:19:05 Talk about Rex Heuermann and the list he created 
00:23:11 Discussion of Heuermann electronics 
00:27:02 Discussion of Rex Heuermann planning note began in 2000 
00:30:59 Talk about violent, sexual torture 
00:34:17 Discussion of going to a scene, police don’t know what they have 
00:38:35 Talk about mutilated body a few miles from home 
00:42:15 Talk about access to material was different in the 1990s 
00:42:50 Conclusion, why they called the ME out to the scene

Gilgo Beach Serial Killer Checklist For Torture and Murder

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Skull Found in Plastic Bag in 1985 Identified; Victim Born in 1864

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