What's in a name? For Joseph Scott Morgan, it is very special, a family history, a personal story, and a challenge to make life a little less ordinary.  In this very special episode of "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan", Joe talks about the man he is named after as well as a family history that is very deep, very dark, and very scary, but in the end, a life filled with unicorns, daffodils, and rainbows. The story begins with his namesake, his uncle, Joseph F. Killian (1903-1951)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Transcribe Highlights
00:00.00 Introduction 

03:33.98 Othram determined to identify everyone

08:33.43 Joseph Killian, murdered

13:09.70 A daylight execution, 4 shots fired

19:26.89 Joseph, named after "uncle"

25:32.28 Dad moves Mom and Joe to Georgia, and leaves

30:02.29 Landed back in New Orleans, going to school

35:41.35 Autopsy on bodies so fresh, organs still warm

40:01.72 Conclusion

What's in a name? For Joseph Scott Morgan, it is very special, a family history, a personal story, and a challenge to make life a little less ordinary.&nbsp; In this very special episode of "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan", Joe talks about the man he is named after as well as a family history that is very deep, very dark, and very scary, but in the end, a life filled with unicorns, daffodils, and rainbows. The story begins with his namesake, his uncle, <a href="https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/16889737/joseph_f-killian" data-linkindex="0" data-auth="NotApplicable">Joseph F. Killian (1903-1951)</a>
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Transcribe Highlights 00:00.00 Introduction&nbsp;
03:33.98 Othram determined to identify everyone
08:33.43 Joseph Killian, murdered
13:09.70 A daylight execution, 4 shots fired
19:26.89 Joseph, named after "uncle"
25:32.28 Dad moves Mom and Joe to Georgia, and leaves
30:02.29 Landed back in New Orleans, going to school
35:41.35 Autopsy on bodies so fresh, organs still warm
40:01.72 Conclusion

Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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Recorded in front of "LIVE" audience at CrimeCon 2025, Denver! 

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On July 17, at 5:13 a.m., Molly Hubbard called 911 to report a man on fire in the street.

During the 911 call, a man can be heard in the background moaning while Hubbard shouts at him to "drop and roll."

Then, the line disconnected.

Police and EMS arrive on the scene and find Ryan Crawford suffering from severe burns to his face, arms, legs, and backside.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack examine the story told to 911. and the story told by the forensics to explain why Molly Hubbard was arrested and charged with murder.


Transcribe Highlights
00:05.21 Introduction - Wichita

04:02.49 Death in the middle of a theft

09:05.35 May have given Crawford something to calm him down

14:42.20 Molly Hubbard left scene

20:03.02 Death with fire is complex

25:16.54 Electrocution victim, one small point of entry

30:26.37 Story lacks credibility

35:34.81 Degree of burns

40:21.14 Burn victims body swell, requires splitting

45:14.94 Molly Hubbard sold scrap metal while cohort in hospital

47:02.26 Conclusion

On July 17, at 5:13 a.m., Molly Hubbard called 911 to report a man on fire in the street.
During the 911 call, a man can be heard in the background moaning while Hubbard shouts at him to "drop and roll."
Then, the line disconnected.
Police and EMS arrive on the scene and find Ryan Crawford suffering from severe burns to his face, arms, legs, and backside.
Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack examine the story told to 911. and the story told by the forensics to explain why Molly Hubbard was arrested and charged with murder.
 Transcribe Highlights 00:05.21 Introduction - Wichita
04:02.49 Death in the middle of a theft
09:05.35 May have given Crawford something to calm him down
14:42.20 Molly Hubbard left scene
20:03.02 Death with fire is complex
25:16.54 Electrocution victim, one small point of entry
30:26.37 Story lacks credibility
35:34.81 Degree of burns
40:21.14 Burn victims body swell, requires splitting
45:14.94 Molly Hubbard sold scrap metal while cohort in hospital
47:02.26 Conclusion

911 Call: Man Burning Alive! Partner Flees Scene Before Help Arrives, Copper Theft Arc Flash! 

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Leela Livis, 32, dies after having Thanksgiving dinner with her mom. Her sister, Mia Lacey, and Mia's boyfriend, Richard Pegg, hospitalized but survive. It wasn't bad turkey, it was Bad Mom. Gudrun Linda Jean Casper-Leinenkugel, 52, charged with first degree murder in the death of daughter Leela, and two counts of attempted murder of Mia and Richard. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss how the matriarch of the family conducted internet searches for "what happens if I accidentally ingest acetronile?" and "does wine turn into cyanide?" Joe Scott explains how the poison investigation also caused the 2007 death of Michael Schmidt to be re-examined, turns out Schmidt might not have died in a house fire, it looks like he was poisoned by "Bad Mom" as well. 

 

 

 

 


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00:00.28 Introduction Thanksgiving

04:51.38 Murder and attempted murder at Thanksgiving

09:58.33 Cyanide poisoning

14:52.42 Industrial solvent, turns to cyanide when ingested

20:09.64 Poisoning everyone in the house

25:16.95 Tox screen 

30:00.16 Was one person the target? 

35:17.36 Killing your own child

40:31.69 Conclusion

Leela Livis, 32, dies after having Thanksgiving dinner with her mom. Her sister, Mia Lacey, and Mia's boyfriend, Richard Pegg, hospitalized but survive. It wasn't bad turkey, it was Bad Mom. Gudrun Linda Jean Casper-Leinenkugel, 52, charged with first degree murder in the death of daughter Leela, and two counts of attempted murder of Mia and Richard. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss how the matriarch of the family conducted internet searches for "what happens if I accidentally ingest acetronile?" and "does wine turn into cyanide?" Joe Scott explains how the poison investigation also caused the 2007 death of Michael Schmidt to be re-examined, turns out Schmidt might not have died in a house fire, it looks like he was poisoned by "Bad Mom" as well.&nbsp;
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00:00.28 Introduction Thanksgiving
04:51.38 Murder and attempted murder at Thanksgiving
09:58.33 Cyanide poisoning
14:52.42 Industrial solvent, turns to cyanide when ingested
20:09.64 Poisoning everyone in the house
25:16.95 Tox screen&nbsp;
30:00.16 Was one person the target?&nbsp;
35:17.36 Killing your own child
40:31.69 Conclusion

Murdering Mom Serves Poison Wine at Thanksgiving Dinner: 1 Daughter DEAD, 2 Wounded

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Mary Theresa Simpson, 12, vanished when she was walking home from a relative's home in March 1964, in Elmira, New York. 

Her beaten and abused body was found four days later, in a wooded area in Southport. 

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack go back in time to discover what happened to Mary Simpson and why police could not find a suspect to arrest, and charge with the rape and murder of a little girl.

They also discuss how, after 60 years, the case was broken wide open due to great police work in 1964. Coupled with exceptional science work by Othram, a suspect has been named after 60 years of questions.

Another cold case thawed by www.dnasolves.com.

Transcribe Highlights
00:03.38 Introduction

01:03.48 Cold Cases - Time Marches On 

04:51.96 March 19, 1964 Mary Simpson, 12, vanishes

10:27.83 Suspect jammed twigs, grass, dirt into Mary;s mouth

15:06.68 Area has not changed much since 1964

20:18.94 Targeting of individuals

25:06.14 Subject would have known where they were going

30:06.65 Othram can begin a case with $7,500

36:17.78 Teaching students to triangulate a scene

41:28.48 Conclusion 

 

 

 

Mary Theresa Simpson, 12, vanished when she was walking home from a relative's home in March 1964, in Elmira, New York.&nbsp;
Her beaten and abused body was found four days later, in a wooded area in Southport.&nbsp;
Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack go back in time to discover what happened to Mary Simpson and why police could not find a suspect to arrest, and charge with the rape and murder of a little girl.
They also discuss how, after 60 years, the case was broken wide open due to great police work in 1964. Coupled with exceptional <a href="https://dnasolves.com/articles/elmira-police-department-fbi-1964-mary-theresa-simpson/">science work by Othram</a>, a suspect has been named after 60 years of questions.
Another cold case thawed by <a href="http://www.dnasolves.com">www.dnasolves.com</a>.
Transcribe Highlights 00:03.38 Introduction
01:03.48 Cold Cases - Time Marches On&nbsp;
04:51.96 March 19, 1964 Mary Simpson, 12, vanishes
10:27.83 Suspect jammed twigs, grass, dirt into Mary;s mouth
15:06.68 Area has not changed much since 1964
20:18.94 Targeting of individuals
25:06.14 Subject would have known where they were going
30:06.65 Othram can begin a case with $7,500
36:17.78 Teaching students to triangulate a scene
41:28.48 Conclusion&nbsp;
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COLD CASE SOLVED! 1964 Murder of Mary Simpson, 12: Killer Named After 60 Years!

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