A lot of information has come out about the victims in Moscow, Idaho, and the condition of their bodies as well as location and injuries. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabutt made many public comments in the first days of the investigation that in retrospect might have been misguided, at best. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case, the evidence, and what was stated as fact early in the investigation that doesn't match up with current facts. Joe Scott Morgan explains the forensics of death, Livor Mortis, Rigor Mortis, as well as PMI, Post Mortem Interval, and how the delay in reporting the bodies could be problematic for the prosecution in the upcoming trial of Brian Kohberger. 

 

 

 

 

Transcribe Highlights
00:00.19 Introduction  

01:48.68 Decomposition - PMI

03:32.16 Elderly people are cold when it is hot 

07:00.30 Rigor Mortis, Livor Mortis

11:48.60 Environmentally dependent

15:33.11 Stiffening of jaw

19:56.67 Latah County Coroner said Idaho students killed in their sleep

23:19.82 Strength of Rigor Mortis

28:22.59 Using digital turkey thermometer to get body temp from liver

32:54.33 Assuming room temperature

38:11.60 Latah County Coroner told family member about injuries

43:00.35 Removing stomach and collecting contents

49:49.70 Gastric content

53:08.10 Post Mortem lividity

58:25.86 Conclusion 

A lot of information has come out about the victims in Moscow, Idaho, and the condition of their bodies as well as location and injuries. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabutt made many public comments in the first days of the investigation that in retrospect might have been misguided, at best. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case, the evidence, and what was stated as fact early in the investigation that doesn't match up with current facts. Joe Scott Morgan explains the forensics of death, Livor Mortis, Rigor Mortis, as well as PMI, Post Mortem Interval, and how the delay in reporting the bodies could be problematic for the prosecution in the upcoming trial of Brian Kohberger.&nbsp;
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Transcribe Highlights 00:00.19 Introduction &nbsp;
01:48.68 Decomposition - PMI
03:32.16 Elderly people are cold when it is hot&nbsp;
07:00.30 Rigor Mortis, Livor Mortis
11:48.60 Environmentally dependent
15:33.11 Stiffening of jaw
19:56.67 Latah County Coroner said Idaho students killed in their sleep
23:19.82 Strength of Rigor Mortis
28:22.59 Using digital turkey thermometer to get body temp from liver
32:54.33 Assuming room temperature
38:11.60 Latah County Coroner told family member about injuries
43:00.35 Removing stomach and collecting contents
49:49.70 Gastric content
53:08.10 Post Mortem lividity
58:25.86 Conclusion&nbsp;

Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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Could Delay Calling Cops Plus Coroner Comments Create Reasonable Doubt For Kohberger?

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Part one of a two part episode covering dismemberment. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the Black Dahlia case that is back in the headlines again, as well as Ed Gein, and other dismemberment killers we have covered. Imagine opening your garbage can to bring it back up the driveway empty, but it is too heavy, open the door and see a foot! One of the many cases covered in this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Transcribe Highlights 

00:01.14 Introduction - Dismemberment  

04:20.66 The Black Dahlia case

08:32.33 Margins very neat, cut around midline

14:16.00 Books written by children of "killers"

18:55.24 Defensive Dismemberment

24:49.40 Trying to put distance between suspect and victim

30:15.74 What was the point of the Halderson dismemberment 

35:15.67 Victim killed in bedroom

40:07.05 Opening garbage bin and seeing a foot

45:06.71 Schabusiness - Charged with Third Degree sexual abuse 

47:43.87 Conclusion part one.....

 

Part one of a two part episode covering dismemberment. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the Black Dahlia case that is back in the headlines again, as well as Ed Gein, and other dismemberment killers we have covered. Imagine opening your garbage can to bring it back up the driveway empty, but it is too heavy, open the door and see a foot! One of the many cases covered in this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan.&nbsp;
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 Transcribe Highlights&nbsp;
00:01.14 Introduction - Dismemberment &nbsp;
04:20.66 The Black Dahlia case
08:32.33 Margins very neat, cut around midline
14:16.00 Books written by children of "killers"
18:55.24 Defensive Dismemberment
24:49.40 Trying to put distance between suspect and victim
30:15.74 What was the point of the Halderson dismemberment&nbsp;
35:15.67 Victim killed in bedroom
40:07.05 Opening garbage bin and seeing a foot
45:06.71 Schabusiness - Charged with Third Degree sexual abuse&nbsp;
47:43.87 Conclusion part one.....
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From The Black Dahlia to Ed Gein, The Five of Dismemberment!

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/6367e0f6-6617-4dd1-9fa4-b3bd017d9be6/transcript

May 28, 1983: Badly burned 1977 Honda Civic is found in a field.  The body in the driver seat was so charred it was difficult to positively identify. The license plate and other items showed the vehicle belonged to 55-year-old Edward L. Cates - a former Mississippi Assistant Attorney General and Jackson City Commissioner. Cates wife, Dorothy, identified a partly burned shoe found on the left foot of the victim as belonging to Cates. Edward L. Cates was a veteran and received a full military funeral. A month after his funeral Cates was found living under an alias as a Retired Army General,  in Lawrenceville, Georgia. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack investigate the case of the disgraced lawyer who pleaded guilty to reduced charges and is sentenced to 20-years in prison, without identifying the person found in his burning car who was buried in a grave with Ed Cates name on it.....40 years later, Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan is helping our friends at Othram raise the money needed to move forward with the investigation. Click the link below to find out more

https://dnasolves.com/articles/rankin-county-1983-homicide-victim/

 

 

Transcribe Highlights

00:00.00 Introduction - Othram, DNA Solves 

03:33.40 1977 Honda Civic found fully engulfed, body charred beyond recognition

04:44.50 Weeks after Cates burial, wife gets money orders from Georgia

06:09.30 Body buried, not Cates. Cates faked his death, body not identified

09:58.78 Accelerant used to burn car and body 

15:21.34 Person was alive when set on fire

20:12.47 Fractures caused by "post-mortem" handling

25:02.62 Injuries caused by being hit by car

30:15.08 Massive injuries, but skull fractures not mentioned in reports

35:02.88 Cates died in prison 

40:05.46 Body did not have teeth

44:09.22 Conclusion

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May 28, 1983: Badly burned 1977 Honda Civic is found in a field. &nbsp;The body in the driver seat was so charred it was difficult to positively identify. The license plate and other items showed the vehicle belonged to 55-year-old Edward L. Cates - a former Mississippi Assistant Attorney General and Jackson City Commissioner. Cates wife, Dorothy, identified a partly burned shoe found on the left foot of the victim as belonging to Cates. Edward L. Cates was a veteran and received a full military funeral. A month after his funeral Cates was found living under an alias as a Retired Army General, &nbsp;in Lawrenceville, Georgia. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack investigate the case of the disgraced lawyer who pleaded guilty to reduced charges and is sentenced to 20-years in prison, without identifying the person found in his burning car who was buried in a grave with Ed Cates name on it.....40 years later, Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan is helping our friends at Othram raise the money needed to move forward with the investigation. Click the link below to find out more
https://dnasolves.com/articles/rankin-county-1983-homicide-victim/
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Transcribe Highlights
00:00.00 Introduction - Othram, DNA Solves&nbsp;
03:33.40 1977 Honda Civic found fully engulfed, body charred beyond recognition
04:44.50 Weeks after Cates burial, wife gets money orders from Georgia
06:09.30 Body buried, not Cates. Cates faked his death, body not identified
09:58.78 Accelerant used to burn car and body&nbsp;
15:21.34 Person was alive when set on fire
20:12.47 Fractures caused by "post-mortem" handling
25:02.62 Injuries caused by being hit by car
30:15.08 Massive injuries, but skull fractures not mentioned in reports
35:02.88 Cates died in prison&nbsp;
40:05.46 Body did not have teeth
44:09.22 Conclusion

1983 Car Fire Death: Charred Remains Buried. Victim Found ALIVE! Who is in GRAVE?

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Kimberly Langwell leaves work just after 5 p.m. on July 9, 1999, and vanishes.

Kimberly has dinner plans with her 15-year-old daughter, Tiffani, and new boyfriend, Ken Weatherford, but fails to show up. Tiffani notifies the police immediately, as it is totally out of character for her mother not to show up.

Police find Kimberly's car in the evening, and she disappears in the parking lot of an Eckerds Pharmacy. Searching the vehicle, investigators find her cell phone, but her purse and keys are missing. Nothing appears to be broken, and there is no sign of blood.

Kimberly Langwell is gone.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case and what happened after 25 years that led to an arrest in the disappearance and murder of Kimberly Langwell.

 

 

 

 

 

Transcript Highlights

00:00.37 Introduction - Forsaken places

03:37.72 Single mother of 15-year-old daughter, vanishes, 1999

06:23.13 Kimberly's car is found in an Eckard Drug Store parking lot

10:43.67 Keys and purse found in car, cell phone missing

15:02.04 Beaumont, Texas, is a busy place 

20:18.30 Tip comes from a "trusted informant"

25:10.94 Hollowed out area beneath Rose bedroom

30:12.60 Search warrant has to state what is being sought and where

35:02.20 Synthetic fiber resilient

39:47.80 Conclusion  

Kimberly Langwell leaves work just after 5 p.m. on July 9, 1999, and vanishes.
Kimberly has dinner plans with her 15-year-old daughter, Tiffani, and new boyfriend, Ken Weatherford, but fails to show up. Tiffani notifies the police immediately, as it is totally out of character for her mother not to show up.
Police find Kimberly's car in the evening, and she disappears in the parking lot of an Eckerds Pharmacy. Searching the vehicle, investigators find her cell phone, but her purse and keys are missing. Nothing appears to be broken, and there is no sign of blood.
Kimberly Langwell is gone.
Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case and what happened after 25 years that led to an arrest in the disappearance and murder of Kimberly Langwell.
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Transcript Highlights
00:00.37 Introduction - Forsaken places
03:37.72 Single mother of 15-year-old daughter, vanishes, 1999
06:23.13 Kimberly's car is found in an Eckard Drug Store parking lot
10:43.67 Keys and purse found in car, cell phone missing
15:02.04 Beaumont, Texas, is a busy place&nbsp;
20:18.30 Tip comes from a "trusted informant"
25:10.94 Hollowed out area beneath Rose bedroom
30:12.60 Search warrant has to state what is being sought and where
35:02.20 Synthetic fiber resilient
39:47.80 Conclusion &nbsp;

Beautiful Single Mom Vanishes Without a Trace in 1999: FOUND 2025! Where Was Kimberly Langwell?

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/82525208-3aa4-4948-b57f-b3bb011a872c/transcript

Could Delay Calling Cops Plus Coroner Comments Create Reasonable Doubt For Kohberger?

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